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Re: Metro

Please read WP:COMMONNAME; a lot of media outlets still use "Metro" because MS can't make up their mind on what they're actually going to call it. ViperSnake151  Talk  00:48, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q2 2013

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume 6, No. 2 — 2nd Quarter, 2013
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Writer monad in Javascript

I've left some comments at Talk:Monad (functional programming)#Writer monad in Javascript. Cheers, —Ruud

July 2013

  Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Trie: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. —me_and 12:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

pdbR

Note that pdbR is NOT the same or even using Rmpi:

Two main implementations in R using MPI are Rmpi[ref] and pbdMPI of pbdR.

Indicates that Rmpi is the established, competing solution. All the third-party references I found on scholar are for Rmpi, actually. If you Scholar for pbdMPI, all seem to be authored by WC Chen et al. Rmpi has been around for long. pbdR is first released 2012, updated 2013. --Chire (talk) 20:49, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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VE newsletter

Hey Diego Moya. The newest updates:

  • Links now don't extend over space/punctuation/workbreaks when you type (bugzilla:51463)
  • Users with the "minoredit" preference set get working functionality (bugzilla:51515)
  • You can tab to buttons in dialogs, including the save dialog (bugzilla:50047)
  • We now show the <newarticletext> (or <newarticletextanon>) message as an edit notice (bugzilla:51459)
  • You can scroll dialog panels like in transclusions' templates' parameter listings (bugzilla:51739)
  • Templates that only create meta-data and no display content at all (like Template:Use dmy dates) now can't be deleted accidentally or deliberately, but still don't show up (bugzilla:51322)
  • FlaggedRevisions integration (bugzilla:49699)
  • Edit summary will get the section title pre-added if you launched from a section edit link (bugzilla:50872)

Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:08, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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re: File talk:Art of videogames-Advances in mechanics.jpg

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VisualEditor newsletter for 06 August 2013

It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages (T54012), scrolling (T54014) and deleting (T54013) on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are <ref>s defined inside a <references> block (T53741). Users of Opera 12 and higher have had their web browser removed from the browser black-list, mostly as a result of work by a volunteer developer (T38000). Opera has not been fully white-listed yet, so these users will get an additional warning and request to report problems.

Significant changes were made to the user interface to de-emphasize VisualEditor. This has cut the use of VisualEditor by approximately one-third. You can read about these at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/August 1, 2013, but they include:

  • Re-ordering links to the editors to put "Edit source" first and VisualEditor second
  • Renaming the link for VisualEditor to "Editbeta"
  • Disabling the animation for section editing.
  • Changing all labels for the classic wikitext editor to say "Edit source", regardless of namespace.

There have also been many smaller fixes, including these:

  • Horizontal alignment of images working correctly on more pages (T53995)
  • Categories with ':'s in their names (like Category:Wikipedia:Privacy) now work correctly (T53902)
  • Magic JavaScript gadgets and tools like sortable tables will now work once the page is saved (T53565)
  • Keyboard shortcut for "clear annotations" - now Control+\ or ⌘ Command+\ (T53507)
  • Fixed corruption bugs that led to duplicate categories (T54238) and improper collapsing when multiple new references were added in a row (T54228).
  • Improvements to display elements: The save dialog in Monobook is restored to normal size (T52058), pop-up notices on save now look the same in VisualEditor as in wikitext editor (T41632), and the popup about using wikitext has a link to the definition of wikitext that now opens in a new window (T54093)

Most of the Wikimedia Foundation staff is traveling this week and next, so no updates are expected until at least August 15th. If you're going to be in Hong Kong for Wikimania 2013, say hello to James Forrester, Philippe Beaudette, and the other members of the VisualEditor team.

As always, if you have questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 23:22, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Wireshark as Web scraper?

Do people really use it - or any other packet analyzer - for Web scraping? I guess it could be used, even though it's probably not the most convenient tool for that, as it wasn't really designed to be a Web scraper; do they automate it with a Lua script, or something such as that? Guy Harris (talk) 18:24, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for 21 August 2013

Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post-Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.

References are displaying properly, even when nested (T52749) or in image captions (T2000. Reference lists are now always fully populated with references (bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph (T54159). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added (bug 50385).

Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems (T53462). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted (bug 51150).

Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) (T35094). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).

A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The toolbar doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector (T54441). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the Tab ↹ and ⇧ Shift+Tab ↹ key commands (bug 50047). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox (bug 51986) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly (bug 51739). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed (T54113).

Images, in addition to getting references displaying correctly, also saw improvements with a set-empty |link= parameter no longer corrupted (51963). We corrected thumbnail images' display so that they look don't wrong in some contexts (bug 51995). Inserted images no longer explicitly set their alignment, but instead inherit the default position in compliance with the Manual of Style (bug 51851).

More edit notices, warnings, and metadata like information about Pending Changes on an article now appear as appropriate (bug 49699). When new articles are created, users are now shown the <newarticletext> message (bug 51459). VisualEditor now handles templates that set "meta" items (like a category) and nothing else better (bug 51322). If the database is locked when a user tries to save with VisualEditor, they now get a message telling them as such and an opportunity to try again, rather than a silent failure (bug 51636).

When you save the page, having the default preference set to "mark all my edits as minor by default" no longer overrides the setting in the save dialog (bug 51515). If you open VisualEditor from a section edit link, the section's title will be pre-filled in in the edit summary box when you go to save it (bug 50872). The size of the save dialog box in the Monobook skin has been fixed (bug 50058). Also, wikipage content handlers like sortable tables are re-run automatically after saving (T53565).

A very early version of the mathematics equation editor is now available for testing on mw:Mediawiki. If you would like to help improve the user interface for math editor, please test out the extension at mw:Mediawiki:Sandbox and leave your comments directly at the discussion page for the Math Node User Interface at Mediawiki. You should be able to use your regular username and password should to login to Mediawiki.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:39, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission

  You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:32, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

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Request

Hi Diego. I'm writing to you and Masem to ask for a favor related to the WikiProject Video Games' Newsletter. I'm writing an article about managing lists for the upcoming (due October 3) newsletter and I was hoping the two of you could write something about the every-entry-has-a-source solution we use for the embedded lists at "art game" and "video games as an art form". If you have time then I'd ask that you write a paragraph on the division. I'm also interested in comments on the approach we've taken to dividing "art games" from "games used as examples of art". Any thoughts you could share would be most appreciated. You can see a draft of the article and where your contributions would be needed at User:Thibbs/Sandbox7 (just text search your username). Please let me know if you'd be willing to contribute to the newsletter. -Thibbs (talk) 15:02, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for thinking of me, I'll give it a try. Diego Moya (talk) 17:03, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Great! I really appreciate it. -Thibbs (talk) 17:35, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi again. Just checking in to alert you that we're entering the second half of September now so the deadline is approaching. We're still 2.5 weeks away so there's plenty of time but I thought I'd send out a heads up anyway. If you come up with something you can either post it here, at my talk page, or just edit the sandbox directly. Thanks again. -Thibbs (talk) 12:00, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback Tool update

Hey Diego Moya. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.

We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.

Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 21:49, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 5

This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.

Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page (bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.

A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed (48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".

In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>) (bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:44, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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Arbitrary stuff...

Thanks for the cookies! ;-) Tcwardrobe (talk) 13:18, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013

VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u> (underline), <sub> (subscript), and <sup> (superscript), <s> (strikethrough) and <code> (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:45, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

September 2013

Ok, I'll make this less formal. As far as I'm concerned, undoing other people's edits is reverting. And you were past 3RR - and given several people were involved, I can't understand why you kept on rather than work it out on the talk page. There wasn't any urgency, it's not a BLP issue or something vital. Dougweller (talk) 16:57, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

I have started conversation on the talk page. I've also created versions of the wording that addressed each one of the points made by the others. Why should improving the article taking input from other editors be considered a revert when doing it in article space, and not in Talk space? This is a wiki, not a forum. Discussion has been going on all the time with each step. Diego (talk) 17:00, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Because that's the way 3RR is drafted, and it's meant to prevent edit wars. To an outsider that looked like an edit war. I can't understand why if there is discussion on the talk page it was necessary to continue to edit, and if I'd taken you to the 3RR board (which I guess I could have done without a warning), I think you'd be lucky to convince someone that what you were doing was an exception. Dougweller (talk) 17:46, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, October 2013

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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q3 2013

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VisualEditor newsletter on 16 October 2013

VisualEditor is still being updated every Thursday. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week. If you haven't done so already, you can turn on VisualEditor by going to your preferences and choosing the item, "MediaWiki:Visualeditor-preference-enable".

The reference dialog for all Wikipedias, especially the way it handles citation templates, is being redesigned. Please offer suggestions and opinions at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. (Use your Wikipedia username/password to login there.) You can also drag and drop references (select the reference, then hover over the selected item until your cursor turns into the drag-and-drop tool). This also works for some templates, images, and other page elements (but not yet for text or floated items). References are now editable when they appear inside a media item's caption (bug 50459).

There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected (bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances (bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances (bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories (bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias (bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes (bug 54712).

Looking ahead: Development work right now is on rich copy-and-paste abilities, quicker addition of citation templates in references, setting media items' options (such as being able to put images on the left), switching into wikitext mode, and simplifying the toolbar. A significant amount of work is being done on other languages during this month. If you speak a language other than English, you can help with translating the documentation.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:46, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2013

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Request for comment

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Barnstar of Awesome

  Barnstar of Awesome
You are hereby awarded the Barnstar of Awesome for your amazing work alpha-testing The Wikipedia Adventure. Over 180 bugs were identified and 143 of them have been fixed already! (The rest are catalogued as known bugs).

You. Are. Awesome. Check out your name in the game credits here: WP:TWA/About.


Thank you again :) --User:Ocaasi 17:34, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


How you can help even more!
(and for which there may or may not be a super secret second extreme helper barnstar)
  • Start over fresh with a new account: Like User:OcaasiTWA17 (these are legitimate alternate testing accounts and are not considered sockpuppets)
  • Finish the game: Give some attention to missions 5-7 (which have been tested much less)
  • Try a different browser: If you used Safari, try Firefox (or Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera...)
  • Show the game to a friend or family member to see how they like it and if they get stuck anywhere

Cheers! Ocaasi t | c 14:37, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Anita Sarkeesian

Could you edit Anita Sarkeesian "she was targeted by an online harassment campaign that" to "she became a target of wave of online harassment that" as you edited earlier under "Kickstarter campaign and subsequent harassment" section, please. Nosepea68 (talk) 07:01, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations

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3RR

I see you wrote "revert still under official allowed limits." That's simply wrong, there is no entitlement to 3 reverts in 24 hours. Please read WP:3RR carefully. And having posted this to you, I doubt that you would need any further warnings (ie you are now expected to understand 3RR). Dougweller (talk) 10:31, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Birdo

Well, I shouldn't have to open a third discussion to re-establish consensus on the matter, but since you insist that everyone who disagrees with you in that discussion is wrong, I guess I have no choice but to allow you to continue over-complicating the process of enforcing established consensus. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 06:48, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, we are clearly at square one. This is the end result of Wikipedians claiming ownership of an article and in fact taking the initiative to say that an established consensus is invalid and therefore is not worth acknowledging. Please also note that the image's removal is not disputed by anyone other than you. In fact, three other people dispute the inclusion, which makes your inference in calling the image disputed that your dispute is more valid than others'. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 07:40, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
New Age Retro Hippie, discussing with you hasn't been easy for me either. I always try to center discussion around the reasons why each editor favour their preferred outcome, but your aggressive style have made it hard to argue in a civil way. You have arrogated to yourself the very same prerogative to decide what was the consensus that you denied me. Your position is today stronger, not because you have called other editors in their talk pages to agree with you with unelaborated drive-by comments, but because you finally recognized that I had something to say and addressed it in order to improve the article, as I've been asking you to do every single time we talked. The link with a source using the 3D render actually makes a difference; even if I still think that the manual scan would be informative and valuable to readers, my position favoring it scan is no longer unique with respect to the available references.
Had you done exactly this some months ago instead of strongly wishing me to go away, we would have skipped most of the drama; as I reject being put off by sheer insistence alone, but always hear and acknowledge a well presented reasoning. I hope this will serve you to recognize your own shortcomings with respect to your debating style; I know it has served me to know what kind of battles to avoid, and how not to escalate a quarrel. I won't further pursue the inclusion of the manual scan. Congratulations, you've won an Internet. Diego (talk) 23:08, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Categories for discussion: Video games featuring female protagonists Part Deux: Electric Boogaloo

You were pretty active last month, but probably didn't even notice this one which is pretty depressing as in people don't even read what I say and go with the 6-word-long deletion nomination: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_November_7#Category:Video_games_featuring_female_protagonists --Niemti (talk) 17:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for November 2013

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some feature changes, major infrastructure improvements to make the system more stable, dependable and extensible, some minor toolbar improvements, and fixing bugs.

A new form parsing library for language characters in Parsoid caused the corruption of pages containing diacritics for about an hour two weeks ago. Relatively few pages at the English Wikipedia were affected, but this created immediate problems at some other Wikipedias, sometimes affecting several dozen pages. The development teams for Parsoid and VisualEditor apologize for the serious disruption and thank the people who reported this emergency at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and on the public IRC channel, #mediawiki-visualeditor.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:

  • Accidental deletion of infoboxes and other items: You now need to press the Delete or ← Backspace key twice to delete a template, reference or image. The first time, the item becomes selected, and the second time, it is removed. The need to press the delete key twice should make it more obvious what you are doing and help avoid accidental removals of infoboxes and similar (bug 55336).
  • Switch from VisualEditor to the wikitext editor: A new feature lets you make a direct, one-way editing interface change, which will preserve your changes without needing to save the page and re-open it in the wikitext editor (bug 50687). It is available in a new menu in the action buttons by the Cancel button (where the "Page Settings" button used to be). Note that this new feature is not currently working in Firefox.
  • Categories and Languages are also now directly available in that menu. The category suggestions drop-down was appearing in the wrong place rather than below its input box, which is now fixed. An incompatibility between VisualEditor and the deployed Parsoid service that prevented editing categories and language links was fixed.
  • File:, Help: and Category: namespaces: VisualEditor was enabled for these namespaces the on all wikis (bug 55968), the Portal: and Viquiprojecte: namespaces on the Catalan Wikipedia (bug 56000), and the Portal: and Book: namespaces on the English Wikipedia (bug 56001).
  • Media item resizing: We improved how files are viewed in a few ways. First, inline media items can now be resized in the same way that has been possible with block ones (like thumbnails) before. When resizing a media item, you can see a live preview of how it will look as you drag it (bug 54298). While you are dragging an image to resize it, we now show a label with the current dimensions (bug 54297). Once you have resized it, we fetch a new, higher resolution image for the media item if necessary (bug 55697). Manual setting of media item sizes in their dialog is nearly complete and should be available next week. If you hold down the ⇧ Shift key whilst resizing an image, it will now snap to a 10 pixel grid instead of the normal free-hand sizing. The media item resize label now is centered while resizing regardless of which tool you use to resize it.
  • Undo and redo: A number of improvements were made to the transactions system which make undoing and redoing more reliable during real-time collaboration (bug 53224).
  • Save dialogue: The save page was re-written to use the same code as all other dialogs (bug 48566), and in the process fixed a number of issues. The save dialog is re-accessible if it loses focus (bug 50722), or if you review a null edit (bug 53313); its checkboxes for minor edit, watch the page, and flagged revisions options now layout much more cleanly (bug 52175), and the tab order of the buttons is now closer to what users will expect (bug 51918). There was a bug in the save dialog that caused it to crash if there was an error in loading the page from Parsoid, which is now fixed.
  • Links to other articles or pages sometimes sent people to invalid pages. VisualEditor now keeps track of the context in which you loaded the page, which lets us fix up links in document to point to the correct place regardless of what entry point you launched the editor from—so the content of pages loaded through /wiki/Foobar?veaction=edit and /w/index.php?title=Foobar&veaction=edit both now have text links that work if triggered (bug 48915).
  • Toolbar links: A bug that caused the toolbar's menus to get shorter or even blank when scrolled down the page in Firefox is now fixed (bug 55343).
  • Numbered external links: VisualEditor now supports Parsoid's changed representation of numbered external links (bug 53505).
  • Removed empty templates: We also fixed an issue that meant that completely empty templates became impossible to interact with inside VisualEditor, as they didn't show up (bug 55810).
  • Mathematics formulae: If you would like to try the experimental LaTeX mathematics tool in VisualEditor, you will need to opt-in to Beta Features. This is currently available on Meta-wiki, Wikimedia Commons, and Mediawiki.org. It will be available on all other Wikimedia sites on 21 November.
  • Browser testing support: If you are interested in technical details, the browser tests were expanded to cover some basic cursor operations, which uncovered an issue in our testing framework that doesn't work with cursoring in Firefox; the Chrome tests continue to fail due to a bug with the welcome message for that part of the testing framework.
  • Load time: VisualEditor now uses content language when fetching Wikipedia:TemplateData information, so reducing bandwidth use, and users on multi-language or multi-script wikis now get TemplateData hinting for templates as they would expect (bug 50888).
  • Reuse of VisualEditor: Work on spinning out the user experience (UX) framework from VisualEditor into oojs-ui, which lets other teams at Wikimedia (like Flow) and gadget authors re-use VisualEditor UX components, is now complete and is being moved to a shared code repository.
  • Support for private wikis: If you maintain a private wiki at home or at work, VisualEditor now supports editing of private wikis, by forwarding the Cookie: HTTP header to Parsoid ($wgVisualEditorParsoidForwardCookies set to true) (bug 44483). (Most private wikis will also need to install Parsoid and node.js, as VisualEditor requires them.)

Looking ahead:

  • VisualEditor will be released to some of the smaller Wikipedias on 02 December 2013. If you are active at one or more smaller Wikipedias where VisualEditor is not yet generally available, please see the list at VisualEditor/Rollouts.
  • Public office hours on IRC to discuss VisualEditor with Product Manager James Forrester will be held on Monday, 2 December, at 1900 UTC and on Tuesday, 3 December, at 0100 UTC. Bring your questions. Logs will be posted on Meta after each office hour completes.
  • In terms of feature improvements, one of the major infrastructure projects affects how inserting characters works, both using your computer's built-in Unicode input systems and through a planned character inserter tool for VisualEditor. The forthcoming rich copying and pasting feature was extended and greater testing is currently being done. Work continues to support the improved reference dialog to quickly add citations based on local templates.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:11, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Metal Arms Glitch in The System

can i add the picture that was there back at all ? thanks Brad snake412 (talk) 13:24, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Category:Video games featuring non-playable female protagonists

Category:Video games featuring non-playable female protagonists, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 18:53, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

FYI

Remember this debate? It has been closed and the image deleted. I asked the closing admin about it here. Any thoughts? - theWOLFchild 07:42, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

DRV

Would you (or Dismas) mind bringing this to deletion review? I've never done it before and you guys are way more experienced. I think this should be looked at further, and I would also like to follow along to learn how to file one of these for the next time. I tried discussing with the closing admin, but he's doesn't seem to care about the lack of consensus, he's says he's closing per NFCC#8, even though #8 was addressed during the debate.

Thanks. - theWOLFchild 09:21, 1 December 2013 (UTC)


Hello? - theWOLFchild 22:49, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I posted the same request on Dismas' talk page. He was the first to reply. I hope you will still get involved, but for the sake central discussion, please reply there, when you have a moment. Thanks - theWOLFchild 01:56, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter • 19 December 2013

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some toolbar improvements, fixing bugs, and improving support for Indic languages as well as other languages with complex characters. The current focus is on improving the reference dialog and expanding the new character inserter tool.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:

  • Rich copying and pasting is now available. If you copy text from another website, then character formatting and some other HTML attributes are preserved. This means, for example, that if you copy a pre-formatted suggested citation from a source like this, then VisualEditor will preserve the formatting of the title in the citation. Keep in mind that copying the formatting may include formatting that you don't want (like section headings). If you want to paste plain, unformatted text onto a page, then use Control+⇧ Shift+V or ⌘ Command+⇧ Shift+V (Mac).
  • Auto-numbered external links like [1] can now be edited just like any other link. However, they cannot be created in VisualEditor easily.
  • Several changes to the toolbar and dialogs have been made, and more are on the way. The toolbar has been simplified with a new drop-down text styles menu and an "insert" menu. Your feedback on the toolbar is wanted here. The transclusion/template dialog has been simplified. If you have enabled mathematical formula editing, then the menu item is now called the formula editor instead of LaTeX.
  • There is a new character inserter, which you can find in the new "insert" menu, with a capital Omega ("Ω"). It's a very basic set of characters. Your feedback on the character inserter is wanted here.
  • Saving the page should seem faster by several seconds now.
  • It is now possible to access VisualEditor by manually editing the URL, even if you are not logged in or have not opted in to VisualEditor normally.  To do so, append ?veaction=edit to the end of the page name.  For example, change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random?veaction=edit to open a random page in VisualEditor.  This is intended to support bug testing across multiple browsers, without requiring editors to login repeatedly.

Looking ahead: The transclusion dialog will see further changes in the coming weeks, with a simple mode for single templates and an advanced mode for more complex transclusions. The new character formatting menu on the toolbar will get an arrow to show that it is a drop-down menu. The reference dialog will be improved, and the Reference item will become a button in the main toolbar, rather than an item in the Insert menu.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:40, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Americas review

Hi Diego,

Thanks for the hints.

I updated the Americas section again minutes before I received your message. Well I really need to understand why Leif Ericsson can stay and King Hiram can´t. I don´t see any logical or clear explanation for that. In a logic line of thinking, we´re talking about Americas discovery and settlement. No difference between vikings and phoenicians.

I really see here a problem about territorialism, just because I´m a brazilian, I can´t include archeological facts about my country. This is very wrong.

Plus, I´ll not update any other section regarding phoenicians, explorations or any other points. The person that suggested this should do it. Not me.

thanks,

DavidSzilagyi (talk) 13:53, 30 December 2013 (UTC)DavidSzilagyi

Anyone can edit Wikipedia, you'll have to come to terms with the possibility that anyone removes on a whim the content that you added. The cure to that is to discuss your additions calmly at the talk page, inquiring why exactly the other editor deleted your addition, and following the procedures for dispute resolution. There's no hurry to get the article right; if you merely reinsert the content, you can be seen as edit warring which is discouraged and could get you into trouble.
In this case, it seems that there was no adequate place to put your content because the relevant History section had been deleted (and the lead section was not an adequate place to put it). User:WilyD has now restored that section and included your additions, tweaking them a bit. I'm afraid this is how things work around here :-) It takes a time to get used to; the best advice is not to take it too personally. Diego (talk) 14:13, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Diego, there´s no problem seems WiliyD is fixing the things correctly. I don´t want people spoiling facts, that´s all. I really take history as a serious thing, in the past Included several fixes and created a page about Muageris, onogurs, kurt/kubrat and many others. I don´t understand the part you say about trouble. Anyway, thanks to moderate this.

Fringe material belongs at Pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact and even there should never be stated as fact. Dougweller (talk) 17:56, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year Diego Moya!

 
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Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 09:34, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 


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clarity problem with "million million million"

Hi - Every now and then I pop in like a little... er... goblin?

My little edit was intended to draw attention to the stupidity of a clarification notice in a statement that was factually incorrect: there is no way in this universe that "The ten leads could be arranged in 158 million million million ways". But I did in fact make a mistake. I should have said "158x1018 ("trillion" in European usage, "quintillion" in American usage)."

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Your request for undeletion

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VisualEditor newsletter for Janaury 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked mostly minor features and fixing bugs. A few significant bugs include working around a bug in CSSJanus that was wrongly flipping images used in some templates in right-to-left (RTL) environments (bug 50910) a major bug that meant inserting any template or other transclusion failed (bug 59002), a major but quickly resolved problem due to an unannounced change in MediaWiki core, which caused VisualEditor to crash on trying to save (bug 59867). This last bugs did not appear on any Wikipedia. Additionally, significant work has been done in the background to make VisualEditor work as an independent editing system.

As of today, VisualEditor is now available as an opt-out feature to all users at 149 active Wikipedias.

  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu has a very basic set of characters. The character inserter is especially important for languages that use Latin and Cyrillic alphabets with unusual characters or frequent diacritics. Your feedback on the character inserter is requested. In addition to feedback from any interested editor, the developers would particularly like to hear from anyone who speaks any of the 50+ languages listed under Phase 5 at mw:VisualEditor/Rollouts, including Breton, Mongolian, Icelandic, Welsh, Afrikaans, Macedonian, and Azerbaijani.
  • meta:Office hours on IRC have been heavily attended recently. The next one will be held this coming Wednesday, 22 January at 23:00 UTC.
  • You can now edit some of the page settings in the "options" dialog – __NOTOC__ and __FORCETOC__ as selection (forced on, forced off, or default setting; bugs 56866 and 56867) and __NOEDITSECTION__ as a checkbox (bug 57166).
  • The automated browser tests were adjusted to speed them up and bind more correctly to list items in lists, and updated to a newer version of their ruby dependencies. You can monitor the automated browser tests' results (triggered every twelve hours) live on the server.
  • Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide was updated recently to show some new and upcoming features.

Looking ahead: The character formatting menu on the toolbar will get a drop-down indicator next Thursday. The reference and media items will be the first two listed in the Insert menu. The help menu will get a page listing the keyboard shortcuts. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including support for alignment (left, right, and center) and better control over image size (including default and upright sizes). The developers are also working on support for editing redirects and image galleries.

Subscriptions to this newsletter are managed at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter. Please add or remove your name to change your subscription settings. If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 20:06, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

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May the Force Be with You Always

Given that you moved May the Force Be with You Always to May the Force Be with You Always (song), what should appear at May the Force Be with You Always now? Thanks. --Jameboy (talk) 19:49, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, you didn't seem to have any objection so I moved it back. --Jameboy (talk) 00:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Hour of code

Hello Diego Moya,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Hour of code for deletion, because it appears to duplicate an existing Wikipedia article, [[{{{article}}}]].

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. – S. Rich (talk) 06:11, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

HighBeam

Hi there,

I was wondering that since you have a userbox on your userpage indicating that you have a HighBeam account, do you still have access? BOZ (talk) 02:58, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, not anymore. I should have removed it already. Diego (talk) 20:13, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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VisualEditor Newsletter—February 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some small changes to the user interface, such as moving the reference item to the top of the Insert menu, as well as some minor features and fixing bugs, especially for rich copying and pasting of references.

The biggest change was the addition of more features to the image dialog, including the ability to set alignment (left, right, center), framing options (thumbnail, frame, frameless, and none), adding alt text, and defining the size manually. There is still some work to be done here, including a quick way to set the default size.

  • The main priority is redesigning the reference dialog, with the goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs and URLs and streamlining the process. Current concept drawings are available at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.
  • A few bugs in the existing reference dialog were fixed. The toolbar was simplified to remove galleries and lists from the reference dialog. When you re-use references, it now correctly displays the references again, rather than just the number and name. If you paste content into a dialog that can't fit there (e.g. ==section headings== in references), it now strips out the inappropriate HTML.
  • You can now edit image galleries inside VisualEditor. At this time, the gallery tool is a very limited option that gives you access to the wikitext. It will see significant improvements at a later date.
  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu is being redesigned. Your feedback on the special character inserter is still wanted, especially if you depend on Wikipedia's character inserters for your normal editing rather than using the ones built into your computer.
  • You can now see a help page about keyboard shortcuts in the page menu (three bars next to the Cancel button) (T54844).
  • If you edit categories, your changes will now display correctly after saving the page (T50560).
  • Saving the page should be faster now (T61660).
  • Any community can ask to test a new tool to edit TemplateData by leaving a note at T53734.

Looking ahead: The link tool will tell you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. The warning about wikitext will hide itself after you remove the wikitext markup in that paragraph. Support for creating and editing redirects is in the pipeline. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including default and upright sizes. The developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments, some behavioral magic words like DISPLAYTITLE, and in-line language setting (dir="rtl").

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 04:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter—March 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on changes to the template and image dialogs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks was the redesign of the template dialog. The template dialog now opens in a simplified mode that lists parameters and their descriptions. (The complex multi-item transclusion mode can be reached by clicking on "Show options" from inside the simplified template dialog.) Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing.  With today's update, searching for template parameters will become case-insensitive, and required template parameters will display an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. In addition to making it quicker and easier to see everything when you edit typical templates, this work was necessary to prepare for the forthcoming simplified citation dialog. The main priority in the coming weeks is building this new citation dialog, with the ultimate goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs, URLs, DOIs and other quick-fills. This will add a new button on the toolbar, with the citation templates available picked by each wiki's community. Concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.

  • The link tool now tells you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. Pages that exist, but are not indexed by the search engine, are treated like non-existent pages (T56361).
  • Wikitext warnings will now hide when you remove wikitext from the paragraph you are editing.
  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu has been slightly redesigned, to introduce larger buttons. Your suggestions for more significant changes to the special character inserter are still wanted.
  • The page options menu (three bars, next to the Cancel button) has expanded. You can create and edit redirect pages, set page options like __STATICREDIRECT__, __[NO]INDEX__ and __[NO]NEWEDITSECTION__, and more.  New keyboard shortcuts are listed there, and include undoing the last action, clearing formatting, and showing the shortcut help window. If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged.
  • It is easier to edit images. There are more options and they are explained better. If you add new images to pages, they will also be default size.  You can now set image sizes to the default, if another size was previously specified. Full support for upright sizing systems, which more readily adapt image sizes to the reader's screen size, is planned.
  • VisualEditor adds fake blank lines so you can put your cursor there. These "slugs" are now smaller than normal blank lines, and are animated to be different from actual blank lines.
  • You can use the Ctrl+Alt+S or ⌘ Command+⌥ Option+S shortcuts to open the save window, and you can preview your edit summary when checking your changes in the save window.
  • After community requests, VisualEditor has been deployed to the Interlingual Occidental Wikipedia, the Portuguese Wikibooks, and the French Wikiversity.
  • Any community can ask for custom icons for their language in the character formatting menu (bold, italic, etc.) by making a request on Bugzilla or by contacting Product Manager James Forrester.

The developers apologize for a regression bug with the deployment on 6 March 2014, which caused the incorrect removal of |upright size definitions on a handful of pages on the English Wikipedia, among others. The root cause was fixed, and the broken pages were fixed soon after.

Looking ahead:  Several template dialogs will become more compact. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. You will be able to see the Table of Contents change live as you edit the page, rather than it being hidden. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") may be offered to a few Wikipedias soon.

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GettingStarted

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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q1 2014

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Volume 7, No. 1 — 1st Quarter, 2014
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Obsessive tagging

An NPOV tag can only be added if the issue is "neutral point of view". The article happens to have a "factual accuracy" tag at the top, which appears to be what you are complaining about at Jason Russell and not about NPOV. Use of the wrong tag is less than helpful in discussions. Cheers. Collect (talk) 15:27, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Perplexed

Hello. Could you please review Inversion of control if you have some time ? I'm at a lost in the lede regarding traditional programming, and control flow. --Askedonty (talk) 11:24, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

FYI

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You added unverified claims to the cdrtools article

Hi, you recently added at least one unverified claim to the cdrtools article when you removed a hint that mentions that libburnia cannot edit images with UDF support.

Please either add a verification that libburnia fully supports editing filesystem images even when they include UDF enhancements (needed for DVDs and BluRay disks) or remove the claim you made. Schily (talk) 13:47, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

That row of the table doesn't say "fully", nor mentions UDF at all; it says that it has support for editing the images it supports, which is true. Right there, two rows above that it's made clear that libburnia doesn't support UDF filesystems, so I don't understand your complaint. Diego (talk) 13:55, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
A false claim that is created by "just" removing important information is still a false claim. UDF is part if the DVD and BD standard but unsupported by libburnia. Schily (talk) 14:05, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi, you just made a false claim in an edit summary for cdrtools: You claimed that "cdrkit" was created in 2006. This is not correct. The Debian initiated fork was created in May 2004 and later (on my request) it was just renamed to "cdrkit". All the Debian initiated bugs in the fork from 2004 appear in what was later called "cdrkit", so this is obviously the fork from 2004 that was created because Debian wanted to ship a broken variant from cdrtools after their related patch was rejected for quality reasons. Schily (talk) 11:53, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I'll correct the article to clarify that the 2006 was only a renaming. I wasn't sure how the sentence in that edit related to the claim in the section "Timeline of licensing disagreement" that cdrkit was created in 2006 (I didn't create that sentence, only referenced what was already in the article). Diego (talk) 12:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Do you remember if the initial fork in May 2004 was discussed on some Debian mailing list? We could verify if that version to see if it is the same one used for creating cdrkit or not. (The mail to the Debian list announcing cdrkit states that it was created from the last version of cdrtools licensed as GPL. [2]) Diego (talk) 12:10, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
They did not call it a fork, but this patch (and the other problems they introduced in 2004 and 2005) added many differences to the cdrtools source that identically have been present (with no additional diffs) when they claimed to create the fork. So indirectly they confirm that the fork is what they originally created in May 2004. Schily (talk) 12:16, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
What patch is "this patch"? If you mean what you added in this edit, you should post it here or to the article's talk page, preferably with a link to the public repository where the patch was included. The article content is off-limits to you, so I'm reporting this breach of policy to the COI noticeboard. Diego (talk) 12:21, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
You just proved that you have a serious COI in this article. Please stop editing the article without first getting an approval for correctness and missing imbalance. Schily (talk) 12:39, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter—April 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on performance improvements, image settings, and preparation for a simplified citation template tool in its own menu.

  • In an oft-requested improvement, VisualEditor now displays red links (links to non-existent pages) in the proper color. Links to sister projects and external URLs are still the same blue as local links.
  • You can now open templates by double-clicking them or by selecting them and pressing  Return.  This also works for references, images, galleries, mathematical equations, and other "nodes".
  • VisualEditor has been disabled for pages that were created as translations of other pages using the Translate extension (common at Meta and MediaWiki.org). If a page has been marked for translation, you will see a warning if you try to edit it using VisualEditor.
  • When you try to edit protected pages with VisualEditor, the full protection notice and most recent log entry are displayed. Blocked users see the standard message for blocked users.
  • The developers fixed a bug that caused links on sub-pages to point to the wrong location.
  • The size-changing controls in the advanced settings section of the media or image dialog were simplified further. VisualEditor's media dialog supports more image display styles, like borderless images.
  • If there is not enough space on your screen to display all of the tabs (for instance, if your browser window is too narrow), the second edit tab will now fold into the drop-down menu (where the "Move" item is currently housed). On the English Wikipedia, this moves the "Edit beta" tab into the menu; on most projects, it moves the "Edit source" tab. This is only enabled in the default Vector skin, not for Monobook users. See this image for an example showing the "Edit source" and "View history" tabs after they moved into the drop-down menu.
  • After community requests, VisualEditor has been deployed as an opt-in feature at Meta and on the French Wikinews.
 
The drop-down menu is on the right, next to the search box.

Looking ahead:  A new, locally controlled menu of citation templates will put citations immediately in front of users. You will soon be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) is being developed. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") will be offered as a Beta Feature soon. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

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Your revert on Wikipedia:Drafts

Could you explain what part of the description of WP:CSD#G13 makes it clear that it doesn't apply to drafts in the draft namespace? From what I see (as if now), it's clear that it does now apply to drafts. Steel1943 (talk) 12:05, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Drafts doesn't state that G13 doesn't apply to drafts in the Draft namespace, it clarifies that it doesn't apply to all of them. My last rewording should make this explicit. Your edit said that G13 was applicable "if the draft meets the criterion", but didn't spell out what the criterion was. Diego (talk) 12:12, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Agreed, the edit probably wasn't explicit enough, but it also wasn't misleading. Either way, I'm not opposed to your recent changes; it looks nice! in fact, I think I may add onto it to provide more clarity. I'm about to perform another edit to that section: if you revert it, I won't contest the revert. Steel1943 (talk) 12:22, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter—May 2014

 

Did you know?

 

The cite menu offers quick access to up to five citation templates.  If your wiki has enabled the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, press "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" and select the appropriate template from the menu.

Existing citations that use these templates can be edited either using the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" tool or by selecting the reference and choosing the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Insert" menu.

Read the user guide for more information.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on the new citation tool, improving performance, reducing technical debt, and other infrastructure needs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks is the new citation template menu, labeled "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽". The new citation menu offers a locally configurable list of citation templates on the main toolbar. It adds or opens references using the simplified template dialog that was deployed last month. This tool is in addition to the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Insert" menu, and it is not displayed unless it has been configured for that wiki. To enable this tool on your wiki, see the instructions at VisualEditor/Citation tool.

Eventually, the VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for these citations. When this long-awaited feature is created, you could add an ISBN, URL, DOI or other identifier to the citation tool, and VisualEditor would automatically fill in as much information for that source as possible. The concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog, and your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted.

  • There is a new Beta Feature for setting content language and direction.  This allows editors who have opted in to use the "Language" tool in the "Insert" menu to add HTML span tags that label text with the language and as being left-to-right (LTR) or right-to-left (RTL), like this:  <span lang="en" dir="ltr">English</span>. This tool is most useful for pages whose text combines multiple languages with different directions, common on Right-to-Left wikis.
  • The tool for editing mathematics formulae in VisualEditor has been slightly updated and is now available to all users, as the "⧼math-visualeditor-mwmathinspector-title⧽" item in the "Insert" menu. It uses LaTeX like in the wikitext editor.
  • The layout of template dialogs has been changed, putting the label above the field.  Parameters are now called "fields", to avoid a technical term that many editors are unfamiliar with.
  • TemplateData has been expanded:  You can now add "suggested" parameters in TemplateData, and VisualEditor will display them in the template dialogs like required ones.  "Suggested" is recommended for parameters that are commonly used, but not actually required to make the template work.  There is also a new type for TemplateData parameters: wiki-file-name, for file names.  The template tool can now tell you if a parameter is marked as being obsolete.
  • Some templates that previously displayed strangely due to absolute CSS positioning hacks should now display correctly.
  • Several messages have changed: The notices shown when you save a page have been merged into those used in the wikitext editor, for consistency.  The message shown when you "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cancel⧽" out of an edit is clearer. The beta dialog notice, which is shown the first time you open VisualEditor, will be hidden for logged-in users via a user preference rather than a cookie.  As a result of this change, the beta notice will show up one last time for all logged-in users on their next VisualEditor use after Thursday's upgrade.
  • Adding a category that is a redirect to another category prompts you to add the target category instead of the redirect.
  • In the "Images and media" dialog, it is no longer possible to set a redundant border for thumbnail and framed images.
  • There is a new Template Documentation Editor for TemplateData.  You can test it by editing a documentation subpage (not a template page) at Mediawiki.org: edit mw:Template:Sandbox/doc, and then click "Manage template documentation" above the wikitext edit box.  If your community would like to use this TemplateData editor at your project, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
  • There have been multiple small changes to the appearance:  External links are shown in the same light blue color as in MediaWiki.  This is a lighter shade of blue than the internal links.  The styling of the "Style text" (character formatting) drop-down menu has been synchronized with the recent font changes to the Vector skin.  VisualEditor dialogs, such as the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-savedialog⧽" dialog, now use a "loading" animation of moving lines, rather than animated GIF images.  Other changes were made to the appearance upon opening a page in VisualEditor which should make the transition between reading and editing be smoother.
  • The developers merged in many minor fixes and improvements to MediaWiki interface integration (e.g., edit notices), and made VisualEditor handle Education Program pages better.
  • At the request of the community, VisualEditor has been deployed to Commons as an opt-in. It is currently available by default for 161 Wikipedia language editions and by opt-in through Beta Features at all others, as well as on several non-Wikipedia sites.

Looking ahead:  The toolbar from the PageTriage extension will no longer be visible inside VisualEditor. More buttons and icons will be accessible from the keyboard.  The "Keyboard shortcuts" link will be moved out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) and inline images is being developed. You will be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. VisualEditor will be available to all users on mobile devices and tablet computers. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Thursday, 19 June 2014 at 10:00 UTC. If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at meta:VisualEditor/Newsletter for any project. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Oathkeeper RfC - something else

I mentioned it in the body of my position post in the RfC, but could I ask that you to give other possibly new participants to join in the discussion? You've made your points extremely clear at least once. Try to relax and let others contribute for a change. The only people you are arguing your points with currently are those who you have no hope of converting. Conserve your energy. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 22:39, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Possible RfC for Oathkeeper/Breaker of Chains issue

You brought up an RfC. That's what this is for. The last time I was in a dispute, a bunch of us sat down and tried to work out a neutral wording for our RfC. Then one guy jumped the line and posted an RfC that was so biased in his favor you wouldn't have known what we were originally arguing about. The way Jack keeps mischaracterizing the issue, I'm worried about a rerun. So I figured I'd try to establish the core questions ahead of time but without letting on that I was preparing for an RfC.

DQ and Jack have both already commented on this thread, and I've changed some wording to address Jack's concerns. I'd like to know what wording would be good in your eyes, preferably in that thread where all parties can see it. I'd also like your input on what to do. If the dispute resolution doesn't work, how would you like to proceed? Do you think Jack and DQ will be willing to work out fair wording ahead of time? Should we ask Doniago or Kieth to suggest a wording? Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

I didn't think we should wait any longer to put an RfC out, so I filed it. I was a little worried about the matter being mischaracterized by others as well, so I made sure to keep the language neutral. As you both were good enough to congregate here for a discussion about the RfC, I've saved some time in notification. I think that it would work best if we simply each posted our view, without attacking each other, and allow uninvolved parties to weigh in. I'll notify Don Quixote. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 06:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
The biased and misleading wording that you used has shown me that my concerns were justified. To read that RfC, you'd think that someone had been arguing that primary sources were preferable to secondary sources or that the primary and secondary sources contradicted each other in this case. Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:38, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
With respect, that appears to us to be what you are arguing. You are suggesting that, to note what chapters from the book(s) are covered in the episode, you don't need to reference these connections to a secondary source. Furthermore, you believe that sourcing these connections to the book itself is sufficient. Your second suggestion (that primary and secondary sources were contradictory) is flabbergastingly false. You can't use the book as a source to delineate where it appears in the episode. And - before you bring it up for the 4th time - I am not going to remove secondary sourcing so long as it is from a reliable source. Yes, I did, and I had apologized for it. Just throwing that out there, so you don't go beating the smooshy horse again.
For me, the problem is very, very simple: whenperforming these sorts of comparisons/evaluation/delineations, primary sources are incapable of making these connections, since we cannot use Wikipedia editors as filters. There is no replacement for secondary sourcing, which places the statement from having been rendered internally to one made and verified externally. Talking about PLOT, etc. is a red herring. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 16:48, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Can you guys please move this talk away of my talk page? Diego (talk) 16:53, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Conversation continued here.Darkfrog24 (talk) 18:32, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor global newsletter—June 2014

 
 

Did you know?

The character formatting menu, or "Style text" menu lets you set bold, italic, and other text styles. "Clear formatting" removes all text styles and removes links to other pages.

Do you think that clear formatting should remove links? Are there changes you would like to see for this menu? Share your opinion at MediaWiki.org.

The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor.

The VisualEditor team is mostly working to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.

  • They have moved the "Keyboard shortcuts" link out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Within dialog boxes, buttons are now more accessible (via the Tab key) from the keyboard.
  • You can now see the target of the link when you click on it, without having to open the inspector.
  • The team also expanded TemplateData: You can now add a parameter type  "date" for dates and times in the ISO 8601 format, and  "boolean" for values which are true or false. Also, templates that redirect to other templates (like {{citeweb}}{{cite web}}) now get the TemplateData of their target (bug 50964). You can test TemplateData by editing mw:Template:Sandbox/doc.
  • Category: and File: pages now display their contents correctly after saving an edit (bug 65349, bug 64239)
  • They have also improved reference editing: You should no longer be able to add empty citations with VisualEditor (bug 64715), as with references. When you edit a reference, you can now empty it and click the "use an existing reference" button to replace it with another reference instead. 
  • It is now possible to edit inline images with VisualEditor. Remember that inline images cannot display captions, so existing captions get removed. Many other bugs related to images were also fixed.
  • You can now add and edit {{DISPLAYTITLE}} and __DISAMBIG__ in the "Page options" menu, rounding out the full set of page options currently planned.
  • The tool to insert special characters is now wider and simpler.

Looking ahead

The VisualEditor team has posted a draft of their goals for the next fiscal year. You can read them and suggest changes on MediaWiki.org.

The team posts details about planned work on VisualEditor's roadmap. You will soon be able to drag-and-drop text as well as images. If you drag an image to a new place, it won't let you place it in the middle of a paragraph. All dialog boxes and windows will be simplified based on user testing and feedback. The VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for citations. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments and adding rows and columns to tables.

Supporting your wiki

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VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.

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Revert

Hello Diego Moya,

I'm interested in the revert you carried out on the page Heterosexuality after Flyer22 became agitated. You reverted it citing 'peacock language' though I cannot see how fact can be interpreted as such.

On the edit history page Flyer22 kindly gave me a link which supported my edit, yet continued to rail against it. The method of argument by that particular user is most odd and contradictory, I don't think I've ever encountered quite such a reaction since the Wiki started.

Further, Flyer22 claimed that I was "clearly confusing sexual behavior with sexual orientation and sexual identity, and haven't a clue as to what you are talking about." That neither claim could be further from the truth is academic, the page is entitled "Heterosexuality," not "Heterosexual Behavior," "Heterosexual Identity" nor "Heterosexual Orientation." Perhaps Flyer22 would be interested in starting pages with these specific titles to avoid the distress elicited by an edit of this more generalised page.


Kind regards, tcg3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiredcleangate3 (talkcontribs) 11:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:TRUTH and Wikipedia:Exceptional claims require exceptional sources (it's not the same saying that Heterosexuality is a sexual orientation than qualifying it as "by far the most common" without solid reliable sources supporting that wording), and please discuss this topic-related matter at the article page instead of my talk page so that other editors may intervene. Diego (talk) 12:41, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q2 2014

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume 7, No. 2 — 2nd Quarter, 2014
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Your draft article, Draft talk:Interactive Art and HCI

 

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Your draft article, Draft talk:List of Metaheuristics

 

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Let me clearly notify you of this before you once again support an argument on that talk page without merit; you will be blocked if this continues to happen. Dreadstar 22:17, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

A warning for what, again? I pray you to explain, what is this supposed to mean? Diego (talk) 22:55, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Meaning if you use the talk page to attack the subject of the article without reliable sources to support your assertions then you will be blocked. Further unsourced attacks against the subject of the article will result in blocks, whether you are initiating the attack or supporting the unsourced attack. You'd best make sure that every attack on this subject is backed by an impeccable, WP:BLP compliant reliable source before you support and drag it out, or the initiatior and supporter(s) will be blocked. Period. If that isn't clear then I don't know what is. Dreadstar 01:09, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
And may I ask you to provide a link to the diff of what I wrote that you consider an unsourced attack? You know, so that I can understand what it is that you consider unacceptable behavior and on what basis it is supposed to be blockable. Diego (talk)
If you can't comprehend what I'm saying here, then I strongly recommend that you not edit that article or talk page again. Dreadstar 06:22, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
If you can't provide evidence of the rules that I broke, I strongly suggest that you refrain from making warnings based on your administrator capabilities without a solid basis. I want you now to quote or link the exact text of policy that I've broken that would merit a block, or to withdraw the warning. Admins are expected to follow the highest standards of behavior, and posting empty threats on a topic where you've been involved before is certainly exceeding your attributions, and I won't let it pass unless you can back it up with something more substantial than "In my opinion, your proposed change was not backed up by RSs". I was going to let the talk page discussion go without any more comment on my part until I saw your warning and accusations of making personal attacks toward the article's subject, something that I'm proud to avoid doing on purpose. Diego (talk) 12:27, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
The warnings stand, the message here is to make certain you have seen and understand it, since you seem to be involved in many conversations on that article that are critical of the subject yet have no WP:RS to back them up. If you can start with reliable sources, then we won't have a problem. Dreadstar 15:09, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Tell you what, out of good faith, I've struck my warning here, I'm sure you'll follow RS and BLP in those articles and talk pages. And I'm sure you remember the incident from here and here, that's how I first became aware of you, when you restored a BLP vio I removed that talk page. It's been rev-deleted now.[117]. So yes, use great caution on BLP's. Dreadstar 16:10, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

The RS for the change I proposed to make is the Kickstarter campaign page, a primary source which is reliable for the change I supported - saying that "5 videos were originally planned and later were expanded to 12". I'm baffled as to what is considered an attack or "criminal allegations" on a BLP nowadays, but I'm thankful that you reconsidered and retired the warning for this particular instance. Diego (talk) 17:20, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
A good move would be to take the source to the WP:RS/N board and ask about it instead of continuing to try and bang it out on the article's talk page - if it's not a RS, then repeating what it says over and over on the talk page isn't good, and may violate BLP. And we need to be careful of WP:PRIMARY when adding content from them to BLP's. Happy to retract the warning, definitely appears you have an earnest desire to do the right thing and I think you will. Dreadstar 17:57, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
By way of diffusing this, I think a lot of this conflict is based on misunderstanding. It was the anon who proposed[118][119] mentioning 12 videos based on Sarkeesian's own Kickstarter page. Among the various things wrong with the proposal, the insurmountable problem is that the source doesn't say the Kickstarter initially included 12 videos. Diego's initial comment wasn't especially clear, but what he proposed was using the same source to give the correct number of videos in the original campaign (5, expanded to 12 later).[120] This source and similar ones are in fact already used to cite the account at Tropes vs. Women in Video Games, and in fact it's used to cite an unrelated fact at Anita Sarkeesian already. The source is accurate, but it's a self-published primary source, so determining whether and how to use it is definitely something to hash out on the talk page. Unfortunately, the discussion got weighed down by the back-and-forth (partially based on another misunderstanding) and dealing with the further intransigent comments from the anon. Having interacted with Diego before, I don't believe he was defending the most disruptive parts of the anon's proposal in this case. As for the earlier restoration of BLP-violating material, my assumption is that it was a mistake Diego will take precaution never to repeat.--Cúchullain t/c 19:34, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Cúchullain for the analysis, that is too my reading of what happened; the thread was derailed by the mutual aspersions of incivil behavior (of which I'm ashamed for being part), preventing any possibility of discussing the proposal on its own merits.

I can no longer read what the material said exactly, but I know my impressions at the time were certainly not that of an editor making accusations of illegal misconduct against Sarkeesian. It's common knowledge that Kickstarter doesn't consider its rewards as binding contracts, so I read the "crime" that the original poster accused her to make was that of disappointing her supporters - which, when seen in that light, I couldn't consider as defamation but a mere lament. Deletion of the whole thing seemed an over-reaction to me (and I can't re-assess my view now, which is what happens when discussion content is removed - all accountability is lost).

Since that talk page has a previous history of having comments removed without trace over disagreements (remember that, Cúchullain? ;-) we managed to solve our differences there), I was concerned that this unfortunate trend was resurfacing, thus my restoring of the thread.

Calm calls to provide RSs and avoid gossiping are acceptable, but the chilling effect that comes from that well-meaning attempt to avoid disruption is contributing to the rarefied atmosphere, rather than preventing it. Now, if only those warnings were issued to editors in both sides of the confrontation whenever an editor jumped to guess intentions (such as with the comments from Euchrid and Orangemike), so that we could perceive it as a *neutral* approach to maintain civility, not allowing snarky remarks at either side, that would be different.

I know that is tiresome to repeat the same things again and again, but the regulars also have a responsibility to maintain a good tone. I don't know, maybe a neutral F.A.Q. section could be benefitial so that we could point newcomers there as the first thing, so that they could have their first objections addressed. Diego (talk) 21:52, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

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This user has continued to direct his abusive behavior in my direction, as well as delete stuff from the talk page (not even the article page!), making it very difficult to improve these articles. I appreciate his zeal in trying to adhere to WP:BLPNAME, but his attitude is unacceptable, he keeps making personal attacks (both on Zoe Quinn and GamerGate, which has, at this point, reached the point of notability), does not assume good faith, he has deleted attempts at even discussing THE event which set off the whole thing (namely, Quinn's involvement with Grayson, which has at this point been noted by numerous RSs, including an official response from his employer), and is generally being disruptive, hostile, and confrontational.

He apparently has a history of edit warring according to his talk page, and I don't think he is likely to change his behavior, so I'm going to start a WP:RFC/U if he does not change his behavior. However, according to the guidelines on that page, he needs to have at least two people discuss the issue with him on his talk page, and, frankly, I'd prefer to avoid going through this process if he actually stopped doing it. I don't know if he'll listen to you, but you warned him about his behavior before and I was hoping you could have a chat with him.

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Oh, I should know better... it's so easy to click the wrong thing and so easy to jump to conclusions. My apologies. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 22:26, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Ok, no offence taken at any side, I hope. But please, next time remember to count 10 before jumping... (Wasn't that at Sesame Street or something?) Diego (talk) 22:29, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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Diego, I'm disappointed that you restored the challenged wording that had been edited back into the article almost as soon as I unprotected it. I have not looked into the material itself, but it is clear a number of editors have challenged it, and as you know, the burden of evidence is on people adding material. As the most recent person who restored it, please revert yourself so I don't have to pursue edit warring blocks.--Cúchullain t/c 15:07, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Uh, are we following the same article? First, the content I added this morning is not the same one that was removed; I've tried to correct the problems that lead to its removal, so that would put it in line with WP:BRD - bold edits that try to address the concerns expressed by those opposing it, after discussion has happened, are not edit warring. Second, the last person who edited that bit of the article is Ryulong, who opposed the previous version and now has accepted it (and even improved the format of the reference). That sounds a lot as a consensus to keep to me, if you consider it together with the other editors supporting its inclusion at the talk page.
Also, the content is not challenged on terms of verifiability (all editors agree that the content is supported by the references provided) but on potential BLP problems, and the editor who debated it on this ground didn't provide a convincing argument on how the current wording and well-sourced facts refer to any one individual or otherwise fails BLP.
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Diego, the material was the subject of edit warring that led me to protect the article. You restored a part of that material almost as soon as protection was lifted. This is edit warring. I'm not getting into the material itself, but the burden of evidence is always on the editors inserting the challenged material. It has now been removed again, which just continues the edit war and increases the chances the article will have to be protected, and that the the participating editors will be blocked. I hope you will do your part to keep further action from becoming necessary.--Cúchullain t/c 18:37, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hey man, looking at the Github I saw you posted on the talk page about the sexual harassment thing. Is there any reason why that's not in the article, not that I care, it shouldn't be in my opinion, but it seems several major outlets covered it, why is it that these particular sources are ignored, wasn't Wikipedia about "what RS say, not the truth"? Loganmac (talk) 10:47, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

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Euphemizing Insults

When I edit the GamerGate talk page, I was subject to a swearing comment and questioning of my contributions to Wikipedia in every single essence. I see that another editor has labeled you as a 'troll' or claiming you have an 'army of SPAs'. These are blatant personal attacks, but since there is no civility enforcement, I cannot report them. I just invite you to hopefully look past them, but if it gets atrocious I will call the editors out on their behavior. It's absolutely unacceptable. Tutelary (talk) 19:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter—November 2014

 
 
Did you know?

VisualEditor is also available on the mobile version of Wikipedia. Login and click the pencil icon to open the page you want to edit. Click on the gear-shaped settings in the upper-right corner, to pick which editor to use. Choose "Edit" to use VisualEditor, or "Edit source" to use the wikitext editor.

It will remember whether you used wikitext or VisualEditor, and use the same editor the next time you edit an article.

The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor. Not all features are available in Mobile Web.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and requests, and worked on support for editing tables and for using non-Latin languages. Their weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org. Informal notes from the recent quarterly review were posted on Meta.

Recent improvements

The French Wikipedia should see better search results for links, templates, and media because the new search engine was turned on for everyone there. This change is expected at the Chinese and German Wikipedias next week, and eventually at the English Wikipedia.

The "pawn" system has been mostly replaced. Bugs in this system sometimes added a chess pawn character to wikitext. The replacement provides better support for non-Latin languages, with full support hopefully coming soon.

VisualEditor is now provided to editors who use Internet Explorer 10 or 11 on desktop and mobile devices. Internet Explorer 9 is not supported yet.

The keyboard shortcuts for items in the toolbar's menus are now shown in the menus. VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme from the User Experience / Design group. The appearance of dialogs has already changed in one Mobile version. The appearance on desktops will change soon. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" design and the new "MediaWiki" theme which will replace it.)

Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search program could not find the page. A link inside a template, to a local page that does not exist, will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to a error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like [292] with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.

TemplateData

The tool for quickly editing TemplateData will be deployed to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis on Thursday, 6 November.  This tool is already available on the biggest 40 Wikipedias, and now all wikis will have access to it. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation.  When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "Edit template data" button at the top.  Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.

You can use the new autovalue setting to pre-load a value into a template. This can be used to substitute dates, as in this example, or to add the most common response for that parameter. The autovalue can be easily overridden by the editor, by typing something else in the field.

In TemplateData, you may define a parameter as "required". The template dialog in VisualEditor will warn editors if they leave a "required" parameter empty, and they will not be able to delete that parameter. If the template can function without this parameter, then please mark it as "suggested" or "optional" in TemplateData instead.

Looking ahead

Basic support for inserting tables and changing the number of rows and columns in tables will appear next Wednesday. Advanced features, like dragging columns to different places, will be possible later. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. To help editors find the most important items more quickly, some items in the toolbar menus will be hidden behind a "More" item, such as "underlining" in the styling menu. The appearance of the media search dialog will improve, to make picking between possible images easier and more visual. The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.

The user guide will be updated soon to add information about editing tables. The translations for most languages except Spanish, French, and Dutch are significantly out of date. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language. Talk to us if you need help exporting the translated guide to your wiki.

You can influence VisualEditor's design. Tell the VisualEditor team what you want changed during the office hours via IRC. The next sessions are on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC and on Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC. You can also share your ideas at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.

Also, user experience researcher Abbey Ripstra is looking for editors to show her how they edit Wikipedia. Please sign up for the research program if you would like to hear about opportunities.

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Thanks,--The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 00:45, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Reverting

You're now at three reverts at Anita Sarkeesian. We can sort out the problem on the talk page. Thanks,--Cúchullain t/c 14:29, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

15:00, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Flat UI Design

Hey, I see you've made some edits and reverts to the Flat UI Design page over the last while. Do you watch the page consistently? I'm in grad school at the moment and for an assignment I was tasked with making substantive edit to a wiki page and so I added the history and possible future sections to the flat UI design page. My edits haven't been removed so I assume they are fine, but was wondering if you had any thoughts on them in terms of improvements or alterations? Best, --Dnlgthro (talk) 17:19, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

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Gamergate evidence limits

The arbs are leaning toward a doubling of the usual limits on evidence for this specific case. I am still waiting for final sign-off, but it seems likely that most participants will not need to trim evidence. Three relevant points:

  • Given the substantial increase in limits, the usual acceptance if counts go a bit over will not be granted. Treat the limits as absolute.
  • The limits apply to both direct evidence and rebuttal to others.
  • Despite the increase, it is highly desirable to be as succinct as possible. For the arbitration committee --S Philbrick(Talk) 17:57, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Please explain?

Hello, Diego. I am curious why you placed this flag on the article that I worked on extensively a couple of years ago? Since you didn't discuss it on the Talk page, was there some specific issue that you thought problematic? Prelude after noon (talk) 15:10, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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17:11, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

GamerGate arbitration case: evidence and workshop

In the interests of making this case more easily manageable, it is likely that we will prune the parties list to limit it to those against whom evidence has been submitted. Therefore, if anyone has anything to add, now is the time to do so.

See the list of parties not included in the evidence as of 8 Dec 14.

Please note that the purpose of the /Evidence page is to provide narrative, context and all the diffs. As diffs can usually be interpreted in various ways, to avoid ambiguity, they should be appended to the allegation that's being made. If the material is private and the detail has been emailed to ArbCom, add [private evidence] instead of diffs.

The /Workshop page builds on evidence. FOFs about individual editors should contain a summary of the allegation made in /Evidence, and diffs to illustrate the allegation. Supplying diffs makes it easier for the subject of the FOF to respond and much easier for arbitrators to see whether your FOF has substance.

No allegations about other editors should be made either in /Evdence or in the /Workshop without supporting diffs. Doing so may expose you to findings of making personal attacks and casting aspersions.

Also, please note that the evidence lengths have been increased from about 1000 words and about 100 diffs for parties and about 500 words and about diffs for non-parties to a maximum of 2000 words and 200 diffs for parties and 1000 words and 100 diffs for non-parties. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 06:09, 10 December 2014 (UTC) Message delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk)

Section heading needed!

Hi, You have done an excellent job articulating a big idea

  • converting from oppos-ING/present tense to
  • historical timeline of opposition

I'm not sure what I think of it, but I love clear proposals. Being a big idea, I'd like to see several voices kick it around, and that will best happen with good section headings. I suggest you remove the indents from your recent couple of paragraphs and insert a subsection heading of your choice, e.g. Proposal to convert to historical/timeline format or something. Or if you prefer and its ok with you, may I do that? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:54, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter—December 2014

 
 

Did you know?

Basic table editing is now available in VisualEditor. You can add and remove rows and columns from existing tables at the click of a button.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).

Recent improvements

Basic support for editing tables is available. You can insert new tables, add and remove rows and columns, set or remove a caption for a table, and merge cells together. To change the contents of a cell, double-click inside it. More features will be added in the coming months. In addition, VisualEditor now ignores broken, invalid rowspan and colspan elements, instead of trying to repair them.

You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ⌃ Ctrl+F or ⌘ Cmd+F.

You can now create and edit simple <blockquote> paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "Paragraph" into a "Block quote".

Some new keyboard sequences can be used to format content. At the start of the line, typing "*  " will make the line a bullet list; "1.  " or "# " will make it a numbered list; "==" will make it a section heading; ": " will make it a blockquote. If you didn't mean to use these tools, you can press undo to undo the formatting change. There are also two other keyboard sequences: "[[" for opening the link tool, and "{{" for opening the template tool, to help experienced editors. The existing standard keyboard shortcuts, like ⌃ Ctrl+K to open the link editor, still work.

If you add a category that has been redirected, then VisualEditor now adds its target. Categories without description pages show up as red.

You can again create and edit galleries as wikitext code.

Looking ahead

VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at MediaWiki.org in late December and at other sites early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)

The Editing team plans to add auto-fill features for citations in January. Planned changes to the media search dialog will make choosing between possible images easier.

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Happy New Year Diego Moya!

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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q4 2014

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(Over?)tagging

I do not feel that your tagging here was conducive to reaching an agreement. Could you pick just one tag that adequately but not completely summarizes your concerns and use that one? Thanks. Hipocrite (talk) 18:07, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Given that we've reached agreement I was obviously wrong. Best wishes! Hipocrite (talk) 18:22, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate closed

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

1.1)

(i) The community Gamergate general sanctions are hereby rescinded and are replaced by standard discretionary sanctions, which are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed.

(ii) All sanctions in force when this remedy is enacted are endorsed and will become standard discretionary sanctions governed by the standard procedure from the moment of enactment.

(iii) Notifications issued under Gamergate general sanctions become alerts for twelve months from the date of enactment of this remedy, then expire. The log of notifications will remain on the Gamergate general sanction page.

(iv) All existing and past sanctions and restrictions placed under Gamergate general sanctions will be transcribed by the arbitration clerks in the central discretionary sanctions log.

(v) Any requests for enforcement that may be open when this remedy is enacted shall proceed, but any remedy that is enacted should be enacted as a discretionary sanction.

(vi) Administrators who have enforced the Gamergate general sanctions are thanked for their work and asked to continue providing administrative assistance enforcing discretionary sanctions and at Arbitration enforcement.

1.2)

Uninvolved administrators are encouraged to monitor the articles covered by discretionary sanctions in this case to ensure compliance. To assist in this, administrators are reminded that:

(i) Accounts with a clear shared agenda may be blocked if they violate the sockpuppetry policy or other applicable policy;

(ii) Accounts whose primary purpose is disruption, violating the policy on biographies of living persons, or making personal attacks may be blocked indefinitely;

(iii) There are special provisions in place to deal with editors who violate the BLP policy;

(iv) The default position for BLPs, particularly for individuals whose noteworthiness is limited to a particular event or topic, is the presumption of privacy for personal matters;

(v) Editors who spread or further publicize existing BLP violations may be blocked;

(vi) Administrators may act on clear BLP violations with page protections, blocks, or warnings even if they have edited the article themselves or are otherwise involved;

(vii) Discretionary sanctions permit full and semi-page protections, including use of pending changes where warranted, and – once an editor has become aware of sanctions for the topic – any other appropriate remedy may be issued without further warning.

The Arbitration Committee thanks those administrators who have been helping to enforce the community general sanctions, and thanks, once again, in advance those who help enforce the remedies adopted in this case.

2.1) Any editor subject to a topic-ban in this decision is indefinitely prohibited from making any edit about, and from editing any page relating to, (a) Gamergate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed. These restrictions may be appealed to the Committee only after 12 months have elapsed from the closing of this case.

4.1) NorthBySouthBaranof (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

5.1) Ryulong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

5.3) Ryulong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely banned from the English Language Wikipedia. They may request reconsideration of the ban twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.

6.2) TaraInDC (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is admonished for treating Wikipedia as if it were a battleground and advised to better conduct themselves.

7.2) Tarc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

7.3) Tarc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is strongly warned that should future misconduct occur in any topic area, he may be banned from the English Wikipedia by motion of the Arbitration Committee.

8.2) The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

8.3) Subject to the usual exceptions, The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is prohibited from making any more than one revert on any one page in any 48-hour period. This applies for all pages on the English Wikipedia, except The Devil's Advocate's own user space. This restriction may be appealed to the Committee only after 12 months have elapsed from the closing of this case.

8.4) Subject to the usual exceptions, The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely prohibited from editing any administrative or conduct noticeboard (including, not not limited to; AN, AN/I, AN/EW, and AE), except for threads regarding situations that he was directly involved in when they were started. This restriction may be appealed to the Committee only after 12 months have elapsed from the closing of this case.

8.5) The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is strongly warned that should future misconduct occur in any topic area, he may be banned from the English Wikipedia by motion of the Arbitration Committee. Further, the committee strongly suggests that The Devil's Advocate refrains from editing contentious topic areas in the future.

9) TheRedPenOfDoom (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is admonished for treating Wikipedia as if it were a battleground and advised to better conduct themselves.

10.1) The Arbitration Committee endorses the community-imposed topic ban preventing Tutelary (talk · contribs) from editing under the Gamergate general sanctions. This ban is converted to an Arbitration Committee-imposed ban. Tutelary (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

12) The Arbitration Committee endorses the community-imposed topic bans preventing ArmyLine (talk · contribs), DungeonSiegeAddict510 (talk · contribs), and Xander756 (talk · contribs) from editing under the Gamergate general sanctions. The topic bans for these three editors are converted to indefinite restrictions per the standard topic ban.

13) The Arbitration Committee endorses the community-imposed topic ban preventing Titanium Dragon (talk · contribs) from editing under BLP enforcement. This ban is converted to an Arbitration Committee-imposed ban. Titanium Dragon is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

14.1) Loganmac (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

15) Willhesucceed (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

18) The Arbitration Committee urges that knowledgeable and non-conflicted users not previously involved in editing GamerGate-related articles, especially GamerGate-related biographies of living people, should carefully review them for adherence to Wikipedia policies and address any perceived or discovered deficiencies. This is not a finding that the articles are or are not satisfactory in their present form, but an urging that independent members of the community examine the matter in light of the case.

For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 00:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

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VisualEditor News 2015—#1

 

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's appearance, the coming Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

The Wikimedia Foundation has named its top priorities for this quarter (January to March). The first priority is making VisualEditor ready for deployment by default to all new users and logged-out users at the remaining large Wikipedias. You can help identify these requirements. There will be weekly triage meetings which will be open to volunteers beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Tell Vice President of Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager James Forrester and other team members which bugs and features are most important to you. The decisions made at these meetings will determine what work is necessary for this quarter's goal of making VisualEditor ready for deployment to new users. The presence of volunteers who enjoy contributing MediaWiki code is particularly appreciated. Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins. 

Due to some breaking changes in MobileFrontend and VisualEditor, VisualEditor was not working correctly on the mobile site for a couple of days in early January. The teams apologize for the problem.

Recent improvements

The new design for VisualEditor aligns with MediaWiki's Front-End Standards as led by the Design team. Several new versions of the OOjs UI library have also been released, and these also affect the appearance of VisualEditor and other MediaWiki software extensions. Most changes were minor, like changing the text size and the amount of white space in some windows. Buttons are consistently color-coded to indicate whether the action:

  • starts a new task, like opening the ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-savedialog⧽ dialog:  blue ,
  • takes a constructive action, like inserting a citation:  green ,
  • might remove or lose your work, like removing a link:  red , or
  • is neutral, like opening a link in a new browser window:  gray.

The TemplateData editor has been completely re-written to use a different design (T67815) based on the same OOjs UI system as VisualEditor (T73746). This change fixed a couple of existing bugs (T73077 and T73078) and improved usability.

Search and replace in long documents is now faster. It does not highlight every occurrence if there are more than 100 on-screen at once (T78234).

Editors at the Hebrew and Russian Wikipedias requested the ability to use VisualEditor in the "Article Incubator" or drafts namespace (T86688, T87027). If your community would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace on your wiki, then you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.

Looking ahead

The Editing team will soon add auto-fill features for citations. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to contribute to the Citoid service's definitions for each website, to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections.

We will need editors to help test the new design of the special character inserter, especially if you speak Welsh, Breton, or another language that uses diacritics or special characters extensively. The new version should be available for testing next week. Please contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF) if you would like to be notified when the new version is available. After the special character tool is completed, VisualEditor will be deployed to all users at Phase 5 Wikipedias. This will affect about 50 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh. The date for this change has not been determined.

Let's work together

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 1

Hi! Thank you for subscribing to the WikiProject X Newsletter. For our first issue...

Has WikiProject X changed the world yet? No.

We opened up shop last month and announced our existence to the world. Our first phase is the "research" phase, consisting mostly of reading and listening. We set up our landing page and started collecting stories. So far, 28 stories have been shared about WikiProjects, describing a variety of experiences across numerous WikiProjects. A recurring story involves a WikiProject that starts off strong but has trouble continuing to stay active. Most people describe using WikiProjects as a way to get feedback from other editors. Some quotes:

  • "Working on requested articles, utilising the reliable sources section, and having an active WikiProject to ask questions in really helped me learn how to edit Wikipedia and looking back I don't know how long I would have stayed editing without that project." – Sam Walton on WikiProject Video Games
  • "I believe that the main problem of the Wikiprojects is that they are complicated to use. There should be a a much simpler way to check what do do, what needs to be improved etc." – Tetra quark
  • "In the late 2000s, WikiProject Film tried to emulate WP:MILHIST in having coordinators and elections. Unfortunately, this was not sustainable and ultimately fell apart." – Erik

Of course, these are just anecdotes. While they demonstrate what is possible, they do not necessarily explain what is typical. We will be using this information in conjunction with a quantitative analysis of WikiProjects, as documented on Meta. Particularly, we are interested in the measurement of WikiProject activity as it relates to overall editing in that WikiProject's subject area.

We also have 50 people and projects signed up for pilot testing, which is an excellent start! (An important caveat: one person volunteering a WikiProject does not mean the WikiProject as a whole is interested; just that there is at least one person, which is a start.)

While carrying out our research, we are documenting the problems with WikiProjects and our ideas for making WikiProjects better. Some ideas include better integration of existing tools into WikiProjects, recommendations of WikiProjects for people to join, and improved coordination with Articles for Creation. These are just ideas that may or may not make it to the design phase; we will see. We are also working with WikiProject Council to improve the directory of WikiProjects, with the goal of a reliable, self-updating WikiProject directory. Stay tuned! If you have any ideas, you are welcome to leave a note on our talk page.

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 2

For this month's issue...

Making sense of a lot of data.

Work on our prototype will begin imminently. In the meantime, we have to understand what exactly we're working with. To this end, we generated a list of 71 WikiProjects, based on those brought up on our Stories page and those who had signed up for pilot testing. For those projects where people told stories, we coded statements within those stories to figure out what trends there were in these stories. This approach allowed us to figure out what Wikipedians thought of WikiProjects in a very organic way, with very little by way of a structure. (Compare this to a structured interview, where specific questions are asked and answered.) This analysis was done on 29 stories. Codes were generally classified as "benefits" (positive contributions made by a WikiProject to the editing experience) and "obstacles" (issues posed by WikiProjects, broadly speaking). Codes were generated as I went along, ensuring that codes were as close to the original data as possible. Duplicate appearances of a code for a given WikiProject were removed.

We found 52 "benefit" statements encoded and 34 "obstacle" statements. The most common benefit statement referring to the project's active discussion and participation, followed by statements referring to a project's capacity to guide editor activity, while the most common obstacles made reference to low participation and significant burdens on the part of the project maintainers and leaders. This gives us a sense of WikiProjects' big strength: they bring people together, and can be frustrating to editors when they fail to do so. Meanwhile, it is indeed very difficult to bring editors together on a common interest; in the absence of a highly motivated core of organizers, the technical infrastructure simply isn't there.

We wanted to pair this qualitative study with quantitative analysis of a WikiProject and its "universe" of pages, discussions, templates, and categories. To this end I wrote a script called ProjAnalysis which will, for a given WikiProject page (e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Star Trek) and WikiProject talk-page tag (e.g. Template:WikiProject Star Trek), will give you a list of usernames of people who edited within the WikiProject's space (the project page itself, its talk page, and subpages), and within the WikiProject's scope (the pages tagged by that WikiProject, excluding the WikiProject space pages). The output is an exhaustive list of usernames. We ran the script to analyze our test batch of WikiProjects for edits between March 1, 2014 and February 28, 2015, and we subjected them to further analysis to only include those who made 10+ edits to pages in the projects' scope, those who made 4+ edits to the projects' space, and those who made 10+ edits to pages in scope but not 4+ edits to pages in the projects' space. This latter metric gives us an idea of who is active in a certain subject area of Wikipedia, yet who isn't actively engaging on the WikiProject's pages. This information will help us prioritize WikiProjects for pilot testing, and the ProjAnalysis script in general may have future life as an application that can be used by Wikipedians to learn about who is in their community.

Complementing the above two studies are a design analysis, which summarizes the structure of the different WikiProject spaces in our test batch, and the comprehensive census of bots and tools used to maintain WikiProjects, which will be finished soon. With all of this information, we will have a game plan in place! We hope to begin working with specific WikiProjects soon.

As a couple of asides...

  • Database Reports has existed for several years on Wikipedia to the satisfaction of many, but many of the reports stopped running when the Toolserver was shut off in 2014. However, there is good news: the weekly New WikiProjects and WikiProjects by Changes reports are back, with potential future reports in the future.
  • WikiProject X has an outpost on Wikidata! Check it out. It's not widely publicized, but we are interested in using Wikidata as a potential repository for metadata about WikiProjects, especially for WikiProjects that exist on multiple Wikimedia projects and language editions.

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