User talk:A Train/Archive XIII

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Would you reconsider the close on consensus here? The Deletes were 4 against 2, with Deletes having far deeper analysis in ratio, and every source had been analyzed by different people, and this was the basis for relisting, to have better input and to answer a user's question, which happened. SwisterTwister talk 00:14, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

I disagree with your analysis. None of the editors arguing to delete ever responded to Cunard or CrystalizedCarbon, who were trying to engage in a conversation about the validity of the sources. I underweighted your argument because it didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. You have a very idiosyncratic style and, generally speaking, your contributions at AfD are extremely difficult to parse. I invite you to renom it if you feel strongly about it. A Train^talk 08:35, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Now at DRV. SwisterTwister talk 17:11, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

For posterity: close endorsed at DRV. A Train^talk 21:12, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

the perfect close

your close on this AfD just made me chuckle. Not a single vote cast, not even the nom which was me and neutral. A first? And a fitting no consensus close. Guess if anything it did validate that it wasn't a good CSD candidate StarM 02:52, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Ha! I gotta say, in 12 years I don't think I've ever seen an AfD like that one. A Train^talk 08:25, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Your ANI close

Hi, A Train. I feel a little unsure what you meant, in your close of the ANI against Music314812813478, by "The community has decided to assume good faith and not indefinitely block the editor, but the community may do so at any time if the topic ban is violated." Did you mean to say "an uninvolved admin may do so at any time", or in fact that "the community may do so [=block them] at any time"? A block by the community would involve first schlepping the user back to ANI, so maybe not? P. S. Community sanctions can be logged here. (I try to avoid placing them myself, because I have so much trouble with that log format. ;-)) Best, Bishonen | talk 09:01, 28 July 2017 (UTC).

I forgot to say, thank you very much for your comments at that thread. Bishonen | talk 09:15, 28 July 2017 (UTC).

Hi Bish, haven't seen you in a good long while. :D Yes, you're right about the implication of what I wrote there -- which I most definitely did not mean. And I also went to bed before logging the restriction. So that's a double on me. It's been a few years since I handled anything at ANI and I was on the lookout for something fairly unambiguous to handle to get my feet wet again. I really appreciate you holding me to a high standard on this one. A Train^talk 09:21, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh and I hope nobody interprets my comment as a break with long-standing precedent and an attempt to create a new process out of thin air -- if anyone does read it that way I will set them straight. My fault. A Train^talk 09:23, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vasile Troian

This article was not very well sourced but obviously passes WP:ARTIST #4b.

With all due respect, regarding "one is a photograph of a table” is not really true because the artist's sculpture was actually behind the table, and not the table itself, and the photograph was no longer a reference in the final version of the article.

Also, the comment made by the User:Biruitorul was quite rude (“we didn't really need another week” or “- come on”) and clear made by someone who is not art expert..[1] Ed Terano (talk) 14:23, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Ed Terano. I'm afraid that you don't understand how the process works at AfD. If you're interested in understanding why Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vasile Troian was closed as delete, I suggest you have a read of WP:Deletion Process. If you feel strongly about it, you can take it up at Deletion Review.

I would advise you that the decision would undoubtedly be upheld at Deletion Review. First of all, if the article's sources aren't reliable (which you seem to admit), then they cannot demonstrate that the article passes WP:ARTIST. Secondly, you seem to be under the impression that one needs to be an art expert to contribute to art-related articles and discussions on Wikipedia, and that is simply false. Best of luck, A Train^talk 14:51, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello A Train. Thanks for your prompt response and I will consider your advice.

Regarding that someone need to be an art expert to contribute, I regret but my words do not intend to have this meaning. Personally, I'm not an art expert but I could not accept this particular case, without clarifying my opinion. All the best, Ed Terano (talk) 17:35, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

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Incorrect use of twinkle by one og user

Wikipedia:Twinkle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Twinkle#Abuse  : Never forget that one takes full responsibility for any action performed using Twinkle. One must understand Wikipedia policies and use this tool within these policies or risk having one's account blocked. Anti-vandalism tools, such as Twinkle, Huggle, and rollback, should not be used to undo good-faith changes unless an appropriate edit summary is used.

now , many pages that not created by banned user id deleted because of this user https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&dir=prev&offset=20170810152638&type=delete&user=GeneralizationsAreBad GeneralizationsAreBad without attention to instructions and without review deleted many old pages that them havent any conflict and problem. please reverted this page and get twinkle access from GAB. you can see this articles that created many years ago and this user with twinkle deleted all of them with twinkle because of newly this pages renames and redirected , from championship to championships or ipc to para :

• IPC Nordic Skiing World Championships
• IPC Alpine Skiing World Championships
• IPC Biathlon and Cross-Country Skiing World Championships
• 2017 Women's European Amateur Boxing Championships
• 2017 Women's European Union Amateur Boxing Championships
• 2017 Women's European Amateur Boxing Championships

redirect from ships to ship (main article havent problem but with twinkle in authumated situation all of them deleted!!!)

• World University Cross Country Championships
• World University Boxing Championships
• World University Squash Championships
• World University Orienteering Championships

please tell to admins and resuscitation all of them.

also he/she destory this article with deleted many of content :

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Asian_Cross_Country_Championships&action=history

plus in Asian_Cross_Country_Championships : deleted all of page from 1991 Asian Cross Country Championships to 2014 Asian Cross Country Championships. deleted over 10 articles.

in result : Never forget that one takes full responsibility for any action performed using Twinkle. thnaks.Batisyana (talk) 19:58, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Batisyana, I'm afraid I can't quite understand what you're trying to get across to me here. I have never (to my recollection) edited any of the above pages -- is there a reason that you're contacting me, other than the fact that I'm one of the first alphabetical admins? A Train^talk 20:15, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Going to ping GeneralizationsAreBad to chime in when time permits on the above. A Train^talk 20:24, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

This is a sock of an LTA with a long grudge against me. They're upset because I G5'd their page creations and removed links and redirects. GAB^gab 21:50, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Afd for Sanjaya Fernando

Hi A Train. You closed (and then deleted) this AfD for the Sri Lankan cricketer. Please could you tell me who created the article initially and what was the content of it prior to deletion? Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:25, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

No problem, Lugnuts. The article was created 5 October 2009 by User:Rashen, who made the majority of the edits to the article. The article was a bio of "a Sri Lankan water polo coach and Investment Banker". Do you want me to reproduce the article as a draft in your userspace? A Train^talk 07:35, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Yes, if you can do that, it would be useful. For info, I saw you de-link the article on this page, leading me to the AfD debate (which I'd missed). The cricketer of that name would easily pass the notability requirements based on his bio. Thanks again for your help. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:39, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Sounds like the article may have been about a different Sanjaya Fernando; it's a common enough surname in that part of the world. Either way, the draft can now be found at User:Lugnuts/Sanjaya Fernando. Happy editing! A Train^talk 07:48, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh and do let me know if you want to just delete it again, Lugnuts. A Train^talk 07:50, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help with this. Yes, happy for you to delete that draft. I'll create a stub for the Sri Lankan cricketer later. Apologies in advance if that shows any red-dot notifications when I re-link articles on various pages. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 14:20, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Okay, done! A Train^talk 19:49, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Tex Sanner AfD

I'm not going to make a federal case out of it, but a 3–2 vote to delete definitionally isn't a consensus. We either need to get more people involved in these AfDs or simply end the charade and let admins make the decisions. — Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 15:26, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry you feel that way Bbny-wiki-editor. I thought the AfD was a pretty interesting discussion, and your argument was a good one -- but it was pretty squarely and effectively rebutted. Hope you don't take it personally. I said over in the discussion, I'm more than keen to restore the article if someone could find some better sources at the library. If that happens I'll be the first person in line to help you improve the article. A Train^talk 19:48, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

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Request for page move

I create a page with Capital letter but I cant move this to PREM KHAN to Prem Khan. please move this.thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.177.147 (talk) 09:18, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

Hi! A Train, I saw your contributions. Wao! You are doing very good work. I am inspired of you! Keep working. Thanks. Willy-nilly (talk) 11:33, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Hey thanks! A Train^talk 18:57, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/"So Good"

By the way, soft delete there was not applicable because of the previous PROD. I'm not saying you should revert that closure though, as it was months ago, but please be careful upon further soft delete enactments. J947^{(c) (m)} 04:45, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi User:J947. I am slightly stupefied by how pedantic this comment is. What would be gained from turning down a request for undeletion for this article if a user came back with better sources, as I suggested in the closing comment? Likewise, even if I were wildly out of process here, what on Earth would be gained from reverting the closure? A Train^talk 06:45, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm just saying that soft deletions are to be treated as PRODs, and that includes the fact that you cannot tag articles with PROD if a former PROD has been reverted. Also, in response to your question, read this part of my notice: 'I'm not saying you should revert that closure though, as it was months ago, but please be careful upon further soft delete enactments'. J947^{(c) (m)} 20:17, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Okay, so if anyone turns up tomorrow with a bundle of excellent sources with which to write a stellar "So Good" article, I'll be sure to inform them that User:J947 says we can't undelete the article. Since you're offering me some free advice, let me give you some: don't let hyper-pedantic readings of the rules get in the way of actually making a good encyclopedia. We're not here to create a Gilliam-esque bureaucracy. A Train^talk 20:27, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to chime in but that's not how SOFTDELETE works.We can't implement soft-delete on something that has a failed PROD.If you feel dis-satisfied with the so-formed minimal consensus, just use your discretion and relist it! As to your last query, we just politely say them that we are willing to restore the article to draft-space and that they have to main-space it via AfC.(Mine posting here has nothing to do with the specific AfD but rather about the broader question.Regards:)Winged Blades of Godric^{On leave} 15:23, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm glad you're sorry to chime in User:Godric on Leave because you're as wrong as the other guy. I don't know which voodoo priest I upset to bring on this curse of bureaucratic nitpickers. A Train^talk 19:26, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

That was so gracious!Have a good day:)Winged Blades of Godric^{On leave} 06:45, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

AfD closure

May I discuss this closure if that's alright with you? I realize these discussions can put admins in a tough spot but I would appreciate some clarifying of your thought process. At the point of closure, deletion was slightly favored 10-7 (I include myself and Mr rnnude); obviously, that alone does not constitute deletion. However, the comments, particularly by Mr rnnude, TimTempleton, and (hopefully) myself not only thoroughly expressed why this incident failed notability requirements but also disproved keep votes. As an admin, you also should give less weight to !votes that state "per sources" or "passes GNG" because we know those are arguments to avoid. I reiterate, I would appreciate a little discussion here and I hope I did not come across as too critical.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 08:10, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey TheGracefulSlick, please don't worry about coming across as critical, I completely see where you're coming from. I agree with you that some of the keep arguments at that AfD were cursory -- but so were some of the delete arguments, particularly some of the ones that showed up towards the end of the discussion. Amongst the users who were really engaged with the discussion and making policy-based arguments I could see no clear consensus. If you want me to write up a longer explanation of my rationale I'd be happy to do so on the AfD talk page; alternatively, if you want to take it to DRV that's entirely your call. A Train^talk 08:25, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Timtempleton hit it right on the nail: news reports and passing mentions are thrown into the article to create the illusion of diverse and ongoing coverage. GNG is claimed but Wikipedia is not a newspaper and news reports are treated as primary sources. The admin's hands are tied, however, because most editors do not, or do not want to, realize that. I'm considering DRV as an option but I'm also mindful of the fact I'll probably come back with the same exact outcome.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 14:34, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm totally sympathetic but -- as you say -- my role in closing is to adjudicate the consensus that is there. I sincerely doubt that DRV would find that I closed improperly, so maybe the best course of action is to re-nominate the article at some point. A Train^talk 15:50, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

By the way, please accept a belated thank you from me. I know you are just doing your bit with the mop but you are actually the first admin to respond to query I had concerning an AfD closure.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:26, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey, no thanks necessary, TheGracefulSlick. I see you around a lot and I think you're doing good work for the project. Keep it up. A Train^talk 09:18, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

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Your ANI comment.

Would you mind editing it to remove any ambiguity - he isn't under a six-month ban, he is under an indefinite ban only appealable after six months - it doesn't expire at that point (the appeal may be declined). Resetting the counter just resets when he can appeal :) Only in death does duty end (talk) 11:59, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I just caught my mistake and corrected myself over there. My apologies! A Train^talk 11:59, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Not your fault, most editors would not be a problem, however some wikilawyers would come back in 6 months time and say 'So and so said it was only for six months!'. Only in death does duty end (talk) 13:15, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Grupo Garza Ponce

Hi A Train, quick question. Is it OK to use company sources for straight-forward statements of fact (i.e. history of the company, major projects they were involved in, subdivisions of the company, employee count, etc.)? From my understanding, WP:PRIMARY allows it as long as editors exercise caution, but I was wondering if you knew a specific policy for companies. Big thanks, MX (✉ • ✎) 15:56, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

• Found something at WP:ORG: "Once notability is established, primary sources and self-published sources may be used to verify some of the article's content." I guess this means "yes"? MX (✉ • ✎) 16:02, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey MX, yes, you've basically got it. Secondary sources are always preferred. But for truly mundane/uncontroversial stuff like the facts you're asking about, you can use the company's website. The relevant guidance is right over here. A Train^talk 16:04, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

user space

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kate_E._Reynolds&diff=804034628&oldid=803915555 yes please. ScratchMarshall (talk) 16:54, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

You got it. Standby one. A Train^talk 17:31, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Voila. Happy editing, Scratch. A Train^talk 17:34, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

AfD

I have closed the Afd for Skytap so it can be relisted it in a simpler and clearer way, as you requested in the discussion. If it is, you may want to comment again. DGG ( talk ) 22:43, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

I will keep an eye out for it. Thanks, DGG. A Train^talk 22:44, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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Women in Red

Hi there, A Train. I just noticed you have become a member of WiR. It's a great honour to have such a long-standing Wikipedia editor among us. Your help with Spanish will be useful. You'll find long lists of red links for virtually all the Spanish-speaking countries here. I see you haven't created many articles in the past; perhaps now's the time to start. If you need any help, let me know or keep us informed on the WiR talk page.--Ipigott (talk) 10:18, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello Ipigott, thanks for the kind welcome. That is a pretty nifty list you've got there. I think I will focus (at least initially) on Cuba and I will keep you appraised of my progress on the WikiProject talk page. Cheers! A Train^talk 13:13, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Cuba would be a great start. I have recently written a number of biographies of Cuban women, for example Margarita Lecuona and Luisa Martínez Casado. But there are many more interesting names on the Wikidata redlink list. If you like, we can write some articles together. I also speak Spanish. Have fun!--Ipigott (talk) 13:41, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Ipigott, I'm starting with User:A Train/Teté Puebla. Will crack on this weekend. A Train^talk 11:20, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Teté Puebla is live. Picking a new subject in a few days. A Train^talk 10:04, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Ipigott, just thought I'd let you know that Teté Puebla, which I created because of that list you pointed me to, will be on Did You Know at some point this week. I'll be tackling another one in November. Thanks again for running this great project. Cheers! A Train^talk 19:59, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

You've made good progress on Teté. We'll list her on our Showcase page when the article appears on DYK. Although I help with some of the back office stuff on WiR, the ones running the project are Rosiestep and Victuallers. Other active participants who help with running the project include Megalibrarygirl and SusunW. We all work closely together and are always keen to hear of any suggestions on how the project could be improved.--Ipigott (talk) 10:15, 26 October 2017 (UTC) Hear hear (although Ipigott is too modest) Victuallers (talk) 10:30, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Welcome, A Train. Glad to meet you. Women in Red is a pretty flat project... we all run it together... so, happy to have you as part of the team. If you check out the talkpage, you'll see that we are quite "chatty" so drop by anytime with questions, comments, and so forth. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 12:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

What they said A Train. If you ever need help, just ping me (2 u's no a). I speak Spanish, badly, but read it fairly well. I do lots of articles in the Caribbean and Latin America too, so it's nice to have someone who is interested in expanding our info on that area. SusunW (talk) 12:56, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

If you need any reference help, I'll do my best to find the sources. I can reach out to other librarians, too. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Turkish Nobel laureates (2nd nomination)

2 Keep, 2 Redirect, 2 comment. How the result is redirect? --Joseph (talk) 19:26, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey Joseph, I explained further on the talk page. Let me know if that helps you understand or if you still have questions about it. A Train^talk 21:41, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

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Request your help

Helllo A Train,

I noticed the deletion of the Eugene Youth Symphony article when you removed links to it from the Eugene, Oregon article.

Would you be willing to put a copy of the article in my userspace as a draft? I found about 1 1/2 reliable sources (this) and this, and with a little digging at the city library and the University libraries I suspect there will be enough offline sources to develop it.

Cheers! —Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 11:23, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Grand'mere Eugene, it's my pleasure. The article is live at User:Grand'mere Eugene/Eugene Youth Symphony. Let me know if I can help with anything else! A Train^talk 12:27, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 14:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Stacked Like Pancakes

Hello. Thank you for your decision and explanation on this page. I respect the decision, but I want to do what I can to revive it properly, including what you mentioned of putting it in my drafts.

It is humorous and ironic that the artist was featured in an article TODAY (where they ARE the main subject) the day after you determined the deletion of the page. Stacked Like Pancakes was featured on Alternative Press. Here is the article. This is inarguably significant.

Is it possible that this, combined with the other credible information provided on the original page, could be a basis for reinstatement for the page? Even if it is broken down and fixed up even further than it was... this article feature on Alt Press is proof of what I mentioned in the discussion: the artist is growing quickly, and there will only be more press to come.

Thanks again. RisingDown360 (talk) 01:04, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey, RisingDown360, my best advice is just to be patient. You've got one more source today than you had yesterday, so any argument for having the article is exactly one source stronger. Why not wait 6 or 9 months and come back with a bunch of really good references: profiles of the band (WP:DEPTH) from nationally-recognized sources (WP:RS).

My other advice for you is to edit some stuff that isn't about Stacked Like Pancakes. Wikipedia editors will always look askance at someone who only ever edits one article, and for good reason. If your entire Wikipedia editing experience is one article, you don't have any perspective on how the wider project works, and you're unlikely to be able to be neutral about the topic. If you get the thing that you really want, a Stacked Like Pancakes article permanently on Wikipedia, it's going to be there for anyone and everyone to edit, change, and improve. You need to be cool with that, and the best way to get there is to edit other stuff.

Good luck. A Train^talk 20:36, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quadrafile

FYI, I've changed my !vote on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quadrafile, as pings aren't working I thought I'd just drop a note by. DrStrauss talk 19:06, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the heads up, Doc! Glad to see there are good sources. I'm off to change my position. A Train^talk 20:19, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

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Haha, okay. Lexers615, please take some friendly advice and start making productive edits to the encyclopedia and stop wasting everyone's time with your various vendettas. A Train^talk 08:56, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Close on Cassie Jaye AFD

Hi! Would you mind posting (on the AFD) the reason you closed the discussion as a keep on the AFD for Cassie Jaye? It was a pretty close discussion and I'd like to know your reading of the consensus. PeterTheFourth (talk) 08:10, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

No problem, I've done so over at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Cassie Jaye. A Train^talk 08:33, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

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No Consensus on Holography in fiction

Hi, I am confused as to why you reached the decision of no consensus on the AfD for this article. The debate had one vote for redirect, two for delete, and two for keep. Even if I think that JClemens has no argument that it merits a redirect, at the very least, the decision should have been Redirect, as Delete votes imply also being okay with Redirection. However, the Redirect vote would have been the tie breaker that gave it consensus._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Zxcvbnm. I must beg to differ with you. Your interpretation is wrong in a couple of important ways. First off, AfD isn't a vote, it's a discussion with goal of achieving consensus. The idea that any one "vote" at AfD represents a "tie-breaker" is a complete and total misunderstanding of how AfD works; we don't close discussions by counting heads. If that's what the process was, we would just have a bot do it, not an admin. Read Wikipedia:Guide_to_deletion, if you haven't already. Secondly, arguments to redirect are flat out not interchangeable with arguments to delete. I can discuss that further if you want but again, it's all in the Guide to deletion. A Train^talk 13:23, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

I do agree that AfD is not a vote, however in this particular case, the arguments were essentially split along the lines of "this is notable" and "this isn't notable". So ultimately, I don't see what it would break down to if not simply counting heads. And while Delete votes are irrenconciliable with Redirect votes in certain AfDs, in this one I believe that it would be, since it is a sub article of the parent article Holography, so it goes to reason that a redirect would barely be any different than a delete. If it counts for anything, I am fine with redirection as an alternative to deletion._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:33, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

If your desired outcome is redirection, then Articles for Deletion is not the place to have discussion, the article's talk page is. If you really think I messed this one up, feel free to take it to WP:DRV. A Train^talk 13:44, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

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A page you deleted

You deleted this page.

As I pointed out the previous admin who deleted it, this subject more than meets your notability criteria.

They meet criteria #8: "Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award."

The key words in criteria #8 are "such as". A major music award is not exclusive to the awards listed. There are numerous major music awards all over the planet that are not Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis awards that would qualify a subject within criteria #8. This is something the previous admin who deleted the page failed to understand. That's why I'm pointing it out here.

The subject in question just won a SOCAN Award. Here is a link to prove it. They won the International Song Award, bottom of page 2. They are listed under their legal names, Yannick Rastogi and Zacharie Raymond. They are the first two songwriters listed. That's not a coincidence. They are the primary songwriters and sole producers of the song.

They also meet criteria #2: "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart."

And criteria #3: "Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country."

The SOCAN Award they won was for Olly Murs' "Kiss Me" which charted in Belgium, the Czech Republic, Ireland, Scotland and the UK and was certified gold in the UK.

Please put the page back up. I'm happy to generate out a more robust Wiki page for this subject myself with sources that conform to Wikipedia's best practices. Thanks.

References

sifr4 (talk) 18:16, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Howdy Sifr4. You're right that I deleted that page, but I didn't do it unilaterally, just because I felt like it. I deleted it because there was a consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BANX & RANX among other editors to do so. If I just recreated the page, I would be disregarding that consensus.

What I could do is re-create the article as a draft in your userspace, though what I actually recommend (because you're somewhat new) is to head over to Wikipedia:Articles for creation and work with the great folks over there. They might be able to help you work up an article on your subject of choice. Cheers, A Train^talk 19:51, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

I didn't suggest you did it unilaterally. And your consensus was wrong. I have provided proof that the subject meets three of the criteria, listed above. Three of the criteria. Three. It only needs to meet one of these criteria to qualify as notable. So the subject is actually three times as notable as what your consensus failed to grasp. Please recreate the article in my userspace so I at least a draft to work from. Thanks. sifr4 (talk) 22:48, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of article on Maladaptive Daydreaming

Hello, I am curious why you deleted this article. Could you please share the reasoning (I have not found it elsewhere). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcmordie (talk • contribs) 21:43, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi there, Mcmordie. Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maladaptive daydreaming. Your message seems to have been your first edit to Wikipedia, so forgive me if I'm telling you stuff you already know, but you may want to look at Wikipedia:Deletion policy as well. A Train^talk 20:50, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

I take slight issue with your review of my posts at the AfD nom for that Aimee film

The point I was trying to make was that the Christianity Today review was stating the movie itself wasn't notable by only giving it 2-stars out of 4. "Trying to rebut arguments with stuff like"... implied that there were multiple instances of my not understanding WP:NFILM Anything else you feel necessary to share? Shearonink (talk) 15:06, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way, Shearonink, that wasn't my intent. But to be honest, even your defense here is yet another misunderstanding of WP:N and WP:NFILM. A film reviewer judging a film to be a 2 out of 4 is in no way, shape, or form, a suggestion that the film is not encyclopedically notable for Wikipedia's purposes. This is so self-evident that I'm not even sure how to go about refuting it. Many of your other arguments at that AfD were wildly beside the point. Just for starters:

• This movie is not the first about Aimee Semple McPherson...: not remotely relevant for notability. GoldenEye isn't the first film about James Bond, ergo not notable per your argument.
• Netflix....only available on DVD, not available for streaming. The relevance of this cannot be measured with an electron microscope.

Again, I apologize if I got your back up. But you should definitely consider not bringing stuff to AfD based on this sort of argumentation. A Train^talk 17:21, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Re "first film" - Did you notice that I was responding to ProfessorClaudele's (or that IP's - can't remember which) claims when they said that one of their claims for notability was based upon the fact that the film was the first biographical film about a major Pentecostal figure. I was responding to their statement.

As to Netflix - Again. I was responding to one of the two proponents' claims for notability stating the the film was widely-distributed, stating something to the effect "that it was available on Netflix" which most people would take to mean available on Netflix's streaming platform. But it is not, it is only available as a DVD. So I then looked at the available DVD sales on Amazon where the film is at #155,829 in Movies & TV in terms of sales.

But ok. Shearonink (talk) 19:48, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Half Marriage (disambiguation)

Forgive me if I'm missing something, but can you please explain what is it about Half Marriage's long term significance makes it the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over Half Marriage (TV series)? I pointed out how about 90% of readers going to the 1929 film page are almost certainly looking for the Indian TV series, so the primary topic criteria satisfied by the film can't be primacy in terms of what readers want. Is there any evidence that the film has significant enduring notability? I only did a cursory search for sources about the film, but wasn't able to find anything besides namedrops, and nothing in-depth besides the original 1929 NYT review. [2] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 21:59, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Patar knight, all I did was close the AfD. If you want to do the moves to swap the primary topic, go for it. A Train^talk 08:50, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

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Birth (and death) dates

Hello. I have a question. There is a discussion in the Bulgarian Wikipedia about how the dates should be written. For now the dates are written mostly in the Biography section of a person and there are no dates in brackets in the beginning of the article right after the name of the person. I think the better alternative is the one with the brackets just as it is here in the English Wikipedia. Can you tell me why your alternative with the brackets is better? I want the things in the Bulgarian wiki to become the same as in the English one. --77.236.166.12 (talk) 16:49, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey there. On the English Wikipedia, we have a Manual of style that dictates this sort of thing; I believe the Bulgarian equivalent is this page. I would be surprised if there was not a provision for dates already in the Bulgarian Wiki MOS, but I am disappointed to admit that I don't have the language proficiency to tell you for certain. Have a look at that link and let me know if there's anything else I can do to help you. A Train^talk 17:21, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes, this is the page, but there's no info in it. In the BG version, too. I just need you to tell me why is it better for the date to be right in the beginning of the article instead of the "Early life" section. --212.39.89.202 (talk) 15:28, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

I want to know will you join me if there is voting for the dates? I want them to be written as they are here in the EN wiki. --77.236.166.12 (talk) 08:56, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Deletion review for Holography in fiction

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Holography in fiction. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 20:02, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Charles F. Lynch

Hello A Train -- I noticed the deletion of the Charles F. Lynch article. I failed to defend this article effectively. I'd like a mulligan. Would you please put a copy of the article in my userspace as a draft? With a little more work, I hope to recast an article that will be as safe from deletion as a Sri Lankan fast-bowler with a single first-class appearance. Rhadow (talk) 12:18, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Gosh, Rhadow, are you sure you can make it that good? I mean, we know this chap's whole given name, which would be an argument against it using single-appearance Sri Lankan fast bowlers as our standard. ;) Standby one. A Train^talk 12:59, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Now live at User:Rhadow/Lynch. Happy editing. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help. A Train^talk 13:03, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

What's admonishment?

Hi. Well, i know the meaning in general, but what does it mean on enwiki? —usernamekiran(talk) 00:07, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Do you mean the discussion at ANI about Chris troutman today? It's basically just the community's way of saying "Knock it off, already!" It's not really any sort of formal sanction or anything. We live and die by consensus around here, so if there's a broad consensus of admins and other editors who think that you're in the wrong, you should reconsider your position. That's all, really. A Train^talk 00:31, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

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RIMS Risk Maturity Model AfD

Hello! Per Wiki's guidelines for recreating a previously deleted page, I wanted to reach out and let you know that I'll be taking a shot at recreating the RIMS Risk Maturity Model page that you made the consensus to delete. I will do my best to address the feedback given in the AfD discussion. Thank you! Outlier11 —Preceding undated comment added 15:55, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Hey there Outlier1, thanks for the heads-up. What I would very strongly recommend to you is to make the new article via Wikipedia:Articles for creation. On the other side of that process, you'll have a collaboratively written article that will be much more likely to stand up to scrutiny than a single-editor article re-created so quickly after an AfD. Cheers, A Train^talk 07:58, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

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Regarding your comments here. I had already initiated a full SPI here before the ANI thread was launched.Tvx1 14:50, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Ah, nice one± A Train^talk 18:08, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Afd Discussion for Richard Sneed

Hi I saw that you closed as keep the article about Richard Sneed based on the consensus of the keep !votes. I don't have a problem with that, I would have liked the other participants to have replied to my comments but that's the way it goes so no point in flogging a dead horse! I am more interested in your opinion about GNG and topic specific criteria. This is a subject that comes up regularly in AFDs and as nobody (with the exception of power enwiki) replied could you give me your opinion. For me whether he meets NPOL or not (I'm not sure he does though) is irrelevant if the sources do not show that he meets GNG. What do you think? Cheers. Domdeparis (talk) 10:13, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Bonjour, Domdeparis. I would be happy to hold forth on my personal opinions about the GNG and SNGs, but my own views didn't factor into the AfD close, if that's what you're after. As the admin closing the AfD discussion, my job was simply to assess the consensus amongst users making policy-based arguments. Some of the keep arguments were spurious, but most seemed to believe that, as chief of a Cherokee tribe, the subject met WP:NPOL. Since we don't have a specific guideline for Native American chief notability, it's a somewhat subjective call but the consensus seemed to policy-based to me. The article was not a BLP problem, so there was no reason to discount the keep votes.

If you really are curious about my personal opinion, I always err on the side of inclusion when it comes to articles about marginalised groups and I don't think you can get much more marginalised than American Indians. That said, one of my pet peeves is people who lodge !votes at AfD and don't return to discuss them, so I completely understand your frustration with the fact that no one came back to engage your arguments. It was not a shining example of the deliberative forum that AfD is meant to be. A Train^talk 12:13, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, I totally understand your point of view and I wasn't fishing to find out what your opinion was about this particular AFD and probably if I had been an Admin I would have closed in exactly the same manner seeing the weight of the consensus. I was more after having a point of view from an admin used to closing discussions of this kind. I don't want to waste my time nominating and/or following the AFD if the majority of discussions of this kind go the way of keep based solely on the topic-specific criteria. None of the keep !voters argued that he met GNG but simply that he probably meets NPOL. There seems to be a tendency in deletion discussions about people to ignore the WP:BASIC criteria so long as there is presumption that they meet the topic specific criteria. I think that it would be better to totally overhaul the notability criteria to clearly say as it does in WP:NPROF that a person is notable if they meet GNG or topic-specific criteria. That way we can get on with removing those that don't meet either with less discussion.

The marginalised group thing is another subject though as there is clearly a certain feeling of guilt (justifiably) about the way the Native Americans have been treated in the past and at the moment. I personally have reserves about positive discrimination (because that's what we are talking about I believe) especially on a site such as WP because everyone without exception can claim to be part of a marginalised group be it their religion their origines their hair colour their body shape their sexual preferences their gender. It is a personal call but there is a Pandora's box kind of danger but I totally understand your reasoning, I might be described as a deletionist because I believe that if we don't weed out the chaff then the grain is less visible; Anyway thanks for taking the time to chew the cud with me about this! Domdeparis (talk) 13:12, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Hungarian Regional Autonomy....

Hope you're well- just a quickie: did this mean, that you were taking to AfD? Or wot? Cheers! — fortunavelut luna 23:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Hey, FIM, that wasn't my most accomplished edit summary. It suggested that I was going to take it to AfD, but what I actually did was ask the PRODder to take it to AfD. S/he never did. A Train^talk 10:12, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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Embark Trucks Deletion

Hi, you recently deleted Embark Trucks based on WP:NCORP, which I had tried to clean up. Just wanted to note a couple more articles from today that I think reinforce WP:ORGIND and notability. NY Times and Wired. Would appreciate your thoughts on if this changes anything. Given how quickly the automated vehicles startup space is moving, WP:TOOSOON criteria applied arbitrarily may exclude legitimately important companies and/or developments. I haven't edited that many pages, so I appreciate your feedback given your experience. Jonnyvsrobots (talk) 21:38, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jonnyvsrobots, those are stronger sources. If you want, I could re-open the deletion discussion so that those could be considered, but I wouldn't give it a super strong chance of overturning the consensus. My best advice would be to give it 3 months or so to see what new sources show up: then instead of two more good sources you could theoretically come back with six or seven. I'd be happy to help you with a draft at that stage. Let me know what you'd like to do. A Train^talk 23:09, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains

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Hi Mario Silvas, why do you want me to do that? A Train^talk 23:03, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Aggiefan47 ‎

Well Aggiefan47 (talk · contribs) thought they'd be cute and edit under Astrosfan47 (talk · contribs).--Yankees10 21:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Blocked him. Well spotted! A Train^talk 22:42, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

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I just noticed this got nuked after barely a week with little or no discussion or attempts to establish notability or lack thereof. The restaurant has been featured in a number of widely circulated publications, is a longstanding Dallas landmark, and is the birthplace of Fearing's new southwestern cuisine. FOX named it in the top 10 hotel restaurants in the US, quite a distinction. A few links: http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2014/01/30/top-10-us-hotel-restaurants.html https://www.dmagazine.com/food-drink/2014/09/changes-at-the-rosewood-mansion-on-turtle-creek-the-restaurant-gm-resigns-staff-concerned-about-quality-of-service/ http://www.dallasobserver.com/location/rosewood-mansion-on-turtle-creek-6451662 https://luxerecess.com/mansion-on-turtle-creek/ http://www.10best.com/destinations/texas/dallas/oak-lawn/restaurants/the-mansion-restaurant-at-rosewood-mansion-on-turtle-creek/ It even has a cookbook: https://www.amazon.com/Mansion-Turtle-Creek-Cookbook-Cuisine/dp/0847836533 Currently, the article on the city of Dallas has nothing at all listed for restaurants, thanks to an endless onslaught against anything encyclopedic pertaining to Dallas cuisine. There is no list of Dallas restaurants, unlike the list of New York restaurants. So, is the objection that this restaurant in particular isn't notable, or that restaurants in Dallas is not generally a notable topic? Pawsplay (talk) 05:13, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:57, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Aggiefan47 possible sock

Hello again A Train. About a month ago you did WP:BASEBALL a big favour and indef blocked User:Aggiefan47. This morning, User:2600:1700:45A0:A9E0:69D5:CB4F:47E:5051 made several edits which are very similar in style and explanation to the edits Aggiefan was making before they were blocked. Aggiefan often removed infobox spacing and reorganized fields without need, which the IP did this morning at Carlos Beltrán, Phil Hughes, Tyler Duffey and others. They explained themselves by stating they had "edited player biography and career highlights and awards", which is a word-for-word copy of how Aggirfan would explain their edits. I'm wondering whether or not I should open a sock investigation or if you or another admin could block the IP, as (in my opinion) it is almost certain that the IP is a sock. Thanks Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 17:17, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Aggiefan now appears to be using User:2600:1700:45A0:A9E0:8577:C8CD:EC2B:3263. I'm working on opening a sock investigation. Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 18:29, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hello, A Train. Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2017 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not

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Thank you on behalf of the Support & Safety and Anti-Harassment Tools Teams, Patrick Earley (WMF) talk 21:14, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates

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Restore deleted article?

Hi A Train could you kindly restore Dheeraj Singh Moirangthem? It was an article that I personally had AFDed which you closed last October see here but the article now passes WP:NFOOTY as the subject has made an appearance in a professional league see here. Thank you Inter&anthro (talk) 20:06, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

The article is already created at Dheeraj Singh and is already a lot better than the original article deleted. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 21:57, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

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