Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates

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Subpage sandbox tagging?

Is there a way to mark a page as a template sandbox if it is a template subpage's sandbox version? {{Template sandbox notice}} doesn't seem to support such functionality.

For instance, with this template page set

• {{some template}}
• {{some template/some subpage}}
• {{some template/sandbox}}
• {{some template/sandbox/some subpage}}

If I were to use {{template sandbox notice|subpage-name=sandbox/some subpage}} it would not work, if I were to use {{template sandbox notice|subpage-name=some subpage}} , the sandbox notice assumes that this is the sandbox for {{some template/sandbox}} instead of {{some template/some subpage}}. It seems there should be a way to indicate the template page this is the sandbox to, and possibly indicate it as a template subpage's sandbox -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 13:17, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I think you've got the right idea, but you've got the subpage order mixed up. I don't think you would want to have {{some template/sandbox/some subpage}}, but rather {{some template/some subpage/sandbox}} as the sandbox of the /some subpage subpage. Primefac (talk) 13:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Though that wouldn't work if the subpage is accessed using relative paths, the sandboxed version of the main template would need to be different from the coding of the unsandboxed version. -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 19:03, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Ideally relative paths shouldn't be used because they'll only work on that specific page; calling {{/sandbox}} from this page would mean calling {{Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates/sandbox}}, which is what would happen if {{some template}} calls the subtemplate like that and it were transcluded here. You will always need to have the /sandbox version of a template calling the /sandbox version of any subpages or likewise, unless you're developing a new subtemplate and thus can do all of your sandboxing on that page directly. That being said, I'm pretty sure if you include a {{documentation}} page, it will correctly identify which sandbox the page is for. Primefac (talk) 19:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

TemplateStyles pages are named as the "I don't think" case. No comment on whether that matters substantively. Izno (talk) 21:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

That would be one of the cases I was referring to - 65.92.246.142 (talk) 22:25, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Example of correct order for subtemplates:

• {{WPBannerMeta}} + {{WPBannerMeta/core}}
• {{WPBannerMeta/sandbox}} + {{WPBannerMeta/core/sandbox}}

—⁠andrybak (talk) 02:15, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

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There is a proposal at WP:VPPR that may be of interest

Hi, I recently opened a proposal at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) § Proposal for Template:Template help, which might be of interest to participants of this WikiProject. Please feel free to join the discussion, if you desire to. Thanks! ---CX Zoom(^he/_him) (^{let's talk}|_contribs) 12:17, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Usage versus use

I don't know why we use the word "usage" to head the template documentation section on how to use a template rather than the more readily understood word "use". The term "usage" is always a noun, while "use" can be either a noun or verb, but used as a section heading, it clearly is a noun. The term "usage" implies that this is the proper use of a template, white the more general term "use" implies that this is a merely a guide on how to use the template. I vote for "use". Your aye,  Buaidh  talk e-mail 02:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

The first definition of "usage" at m-w.com is "firmly established and generally accepted practice or procedure". The third definition is "the way in which words and phrases are actually used (as in a particular form or sense) in a language community". Those are the meanings we intend with this word, AFAICT. "Use" has many more meanings and serves as multiple parts of speech, so employing it as a heading would be more ambiguous. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

But it is the proper use of the template and not merely a guide. You cannot invent new parameters not listed in the the documentation and expect it to work. Gonnym (talk) 17:09, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Template:Information styling

Page watchers may be interested in Template talk:Information#General style of template (and use of mbox class). Please leave any comments there. Izno (talk) 03:53, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Paid contributions template query

Hi all. I'm here with a question about the wording in one specific template. As some relevant background, I work for CME Group and have a conflict of interest, and I've been making some requests to fix issues on CME Group CEO Terrence A. Duffy's page. Editors have been very helpful with their feedback, and the page is in a much better place. The editor who helped complete some of the updates added the Paid contributions template to the page so that it's clear to readers that there has been involvement from an editor with a financial conflict. However, I wanted to reach out here as they were not sure if it is possible to amend the template to reflect that the page does not need cleanup. I discussed it with the editor and they said the page is in great shape (they even noted this in their edit summary about the template). However, the template says that cleanup may be needed.

Is there an alternative template to flag the paid contributions but not indicate that the page still needs work? Or is there a way to amend the template in this type of case?

Thank you, Lbischel (talk) 20:22, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

That tag should be added to articles only if those articles do need cleanup. It is not supposed to be a permanent stamp of paid contributions. There are other sufficient mechanisms for that as discussed in WP:PAID/WP:COI. Izno (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

The template has been removed per discussion at Talk:Terrence A. Duffy#Early life + career request. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:19, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Flex columns template adjustment

Page watchers may be interested in Module talk:Flex columns § Update to CSS. Please leave any comments there. Izno (talk) 01:22, 21 May 2022 (UTC)