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Hello there Sdrawkcab, welcome to Wikipedia! I see you've been doing some good work on List of country name etymologies. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page or how to format them visit our manual of style. Experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help, add a question to the Help desk or leave a note on my talk page. Happy editing! moink 18:48, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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Hi, your recent article on Similarities between the Bible and the Qur'an seems the same as the (intent of the) article The Bible in Islam. Could you please explain. Thanks. IZAK 21:52, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Fugue

You can add something about the 'Lost Highway' as long as you don't spoil the movie like in your original entry. -- Gyan 20:39, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)-

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Dropping you a line

and thanking you on polishing the Bugojno article. Regards from Bosnia, Muhamedmesic 02:38, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Map of Mauritania

Thanks for liking my work :) If you really like it, you should check our Morwen's maps, she was the very major major inspiration for my work. I was planning on working alphabetically, having done only A (and tiny countries like Djibouti) but I'll see what I can do and push Mauritania up to the top of the list. :) --Golbez 21:03, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

However, I could use some help. How familiar are you with Mauritania? I have conflicting maps on the shape of Dakhlet Nouadhibou. Compare this map from the CIA (which I usually consider by far the best source) with this map from Magellan. All non-CIA maps I find use the same shape as in the Magellan one, that shows Dakhlet Nouadhibou as having a "panhandle" that goes east above Inchiri. Do you know which of these is more accurate? --Golbez 21:36, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

Never mind; mauritania.fr (As best an authoritative source as I can find) has the Magellan map. So I whipped it up, went faster than most maps due to all the straight lines. :) How does it look? --Golbez 05:23, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome

I'm glad you like it. :) As I said, I'm working on all the nations, more or less in order, and I'm making stubs for the regions as I get to them, so don't worry about that. I just figured, it was about time we had subdivision maps of every country, and then work from there. Have any other particular requests you'd like me to do next? :) (Oh, and by the way, if you sign your posts with ~~~~, it links your name, making it easier to get to your page) --Golbez 20:50, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)

Faroe islands stubs

Hi Sdrawkcab, could you please explain why you split Hestur, Hestur off from Hestur? I really can't see why that tiny island and its tiny village should not be covered together. Also, the comma notation for municipalities ("New York, New York") is appropriate only for places where it is in common usage (which is, to my knowledge, in the United States only). Best regards, Kosebamse 10:27, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Djibouti districts, Mongolia aymags, uppercase

hi Sdrawkcab, do you think we can make them uppercase to harmonize the titles of subnational entities? thanks for a comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Subnational entities Tobias Conradi 13:07, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Maps

No problem, always like to be appreciated. :) What in particular do you want maps of? --Golbez 03:24, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

LOL, good choices, Suriname and Guyana. Guess what?

Image:Guyana_regions_numbered.png

Image:Suriname_districts_numbered.png

I already made them :D I uploaded them to Commons back in early July, I just hadn't gotten around to adding them to articles yet, got sidetracked with other issues. I'll do that now. ;) As for French Guiana, I had been avoiding "second level divisions" (which the arrondisements are) and especially third level ones (districts), but I'll look into it. :) --Golbez 18:37, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

I put the Suriname maps up, I put the main Guyana map up but since there are only three articles, and one is a bit.. weird, I decided to wait until some stubs had been made. You can insert them easily if you want :) --Golbez 18:45, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

There's still a few countries without maps, I keep a list of them at home. --Golbez 18:46, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

Pictures removed from "History of Suriname"

I have just noticed that you seem to have removed three interesting photographs I had posted on this page on 15 August 2005. Please tell me why you removed them and what has happened to them? Were they, perhaps, moved somewhere else? I look forward to hearing from you. John Hill John Hill 07:03, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Removed pictures from "History of Suriname" and "History of French Guyana"

Thank you for replying to my query above so promptly. I take your point about the clutter on the page. I will perhaps move one or two of them to the page on "Maroons." Now, I have also noticed that you removed a photo of the Condemned Mens' block in the History of French Guyana page. I am thinking of posting this photo once again but adding to the caption the fact that the guillotine used to be positioned directly in front of this building (just about where the photographer was standing when he took the photo). I think this should increase the interest of the photo and, as photos of the prisons there seem to be very rare, I think it would be justified to have two on the same page (or perhaps I should move one to another page?). Would you agree to this? If you think they are too large I could easily shrink them. Please let me know if you have any thoughts on how best to do it.

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Cinema of Ireland

None of the films were Irish productions. American or British films partly shot in Ireland with some Irish actors wouldn't really be included as Irish films. The Quiet Man, Barry Lyndon, The Devil's Own, Far and Away, etc are not considered to be Irish films, but foreign films partly shot in Ireland. Waking Ned (Devine) was not even filmed in Ireland, but on the Isle of Man. In the same way, films like V for Vendetta, The Avengers or 101 Dalmations wouldn't be considered British films, despite being set and filmed in Britain with British actors, they are still American films. Hope this clears it up. JW 11:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

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Hello Sdrawkcab

I must commend you for your contributions on Geography of Nigeria article.You did a perfect job in adding extreme points on that article.That article has for long been stagnant and your contribution has made it larger,welldone,cheers Earlymen (talk) 03:17,22 December 2010 (UTC)

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thanks Larry - I've raised this as an issue on the Nav box talk page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Street_name_etymologies_of_London#update_-_Nov_2017), let me know your thoguht. Sdrawkcab (talk) 14:42, 3 November 2017 (UTC)sdrawkcab

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thanks :) About half-way through adding these border pages WisDom-UK (talk) 18:43, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

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thanks, have re-added with refs.WisDom-UK (talk) 22:13, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

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just delete the page - I can’t be bothered playing pingpong with the admins. WisDom-UK (talk) 18:11, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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Most lists of notable people do not include specific references, as long as the related article backs up the claim then that is usually sufficient. If you want to add cn tags to all of them, you are going to be very busy. noq (talk) 11:07, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

I add tags to place articles I am working on. I do think it is better to cn them, as with any other information, though you are right in that I have neither the time nor inclination to go around doing all of them. I cn them when I come across them, as with any other unsourced claim, otherwise I could pick a random village article in Russia or India that no one monitors, start adding people to it, and the information will likely stay up there for a long time. WisDom-UK (talk) 11:12, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

The linked articles contain the references. Pretty much all the lists on wikipedia accept that as sufficient. If they do not, remove the unsupported names. Adding cn tags to some articles does nothing to stop someone adding random names to articles that are not being watched. noq ([[User

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Well I agree that is probably sufficient, though it is extra work for people, in that they will have to click on an extra article to confirm the information's veracity, whereas a simple reference added to the place page will save them the hassle. Also, often within the person article the place of birth etc. is not referenced - numerous articles I've come across are like this.WisDom-UK (talk) 11:25, 23 September 2020 (UTC)i

If the linked article does not have a reference, either remove the entry or improve the linked article by adding the reference there - It is a more appropriate place for it. If you are sufficiently interested in a person to check the reference, you are likely to read their article anyway so not really saving anything. noq (talk) 09:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

The fact that Wikipedia is still chock full of unreferenced statements and assertions is why many still do not take it it seriously as an academic resource. However I also cannot be bothered arguing the point ad nauseum so let's just agree to disagree. WisDom-UK (talk) 11:19, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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Please do not threaten me. ‘Repeatedly’ means changing more than once. I changed back the edits you made once. I am not edit warring, I am following Wikipedia protocols for border disputes and border pages which is that they are kept on one page. If you want to clog up Wikipedia with redundant pages by creating one page for X-Y border and another for x-y border dispute you will be very busy. WisDom-UK (talk) 23:26, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Page reorganisations are major edits. You don't get to them multiple times after they have been contested. Even for normal edits, the accepted practice is WP:BRD.

As for "Wikipedia protocols", they are all written down, and you need to cite them when you refer to them. You can't make up your own protocols and expect everybody to obey them. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:59, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

By the way, most of your edits have been good and well-meaning and I appreciate them. You just need to be careful when disagreements arise. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:01, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Again, I did not make a major edit to the page 'multiple' times. I merged the pages, you reverted - I then reverted once, and you then reverted again. If you disagree with my edits, fine - but please do not misrepresent what I did as an 'edit war'. My changes were in line with standard practice, by which I mean the actual content on Wikipedia which I have been reading and editing for many years. Typically the practice I have observed is that articles with significant overlap or redundant content are merged. As it happens, I have only a passing interest in the subject - it was merely part of a wider project of improving the Asian border pages. I have a rule that if I spend more time arguing over policies or edits with people who have memorised the Wikipedia policy manual (or interpreted it in a way that suits their purposes) then I just move on, as it is not fun and I could be spending my time more productively actually improving or adding content. Do you want with the page as I am moving on to other areas. Bye.WisDom-UK (talk) 15:30, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

why not combine nominations?

Instead of nominating so many borders by country articles one at a time, why not just do a mass nomination? The reasoning you want them all gone is the same, as is the reasoning people give for wanting to keep any of them. Best to just have the conversation once in one place instead of having everyone just repeat themselves at dozens of locations. Dream Focus 21:39, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes I will do that next time. I have not gone through the deletion process before.WisDom-UK (talk) 21:57, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Armenia/Azerbaijan discretionary sanctions

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Cabayi (talk) 21:15, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Accidental revert

I misclicked and reverted one of your edits accidentally. I have rolled back my changes, but I just wanted to let you know. --Joshua Issac (talk) 21:03, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Cool no worries.WisDom-UK (talk) 21:30, 2 October 2020 (UTC)