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Closing a DYK template without prejudice

Crisco, I've just combined two templates into one to make a double hook, and this one, Template:Did you know nominations/Propeller (Peter Stuart album), is the one effectively being abandoned. Is there an easy way to close it down? I've seen other people end reviews with something other than a "rejected" or "approved", but I don't know how to do it myself (what keywords aside from "yes" or "no" are acceptable in the "passed" parameter, and will cause the closing of the nomination).

In this case, the new double hook will be under Template:Did you know nominations/Peter Stuart; I've just included it in my latest list of aging nominations needing reviews, since no one had attempted a review of either hook separately.

Thanks for any help you can give me. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

• I could simply delete it, or close it and remove the categories and change the text. As far as I know Rjanag only gave the two keywords. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:20, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

		The Content Review Medal of Merit
		By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your devoted work on Peer, A-Class and Featured Article reviews of Military history project articles for the period Jul–Sep 12, I am delighted to award you this Content Review Medal. AustralianRupert (talk) 11:04, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks Rupert! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:14, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Prep areas not taken in order

Crisco, was there a good reason you skipped over prep 3? I had designed it so it would be ideal for a US and Pacific nations (e.g., the New Zealand lead and Indonesian hook later) day/early evening, but you promoted 1, 2, and 4, leaving 3 behind. Since prep 4 has been moved to queue 6 in its place, prep 3 going to run overnight in the US, while what's in queue 6 is going to run overnight in Europe, and its first three hooks are European bios which were probably chosen to run during the day. (I thought I'd have time to straighten out the three bios in a row, but I guess not.)

If you can, it would be best to move queue 6 to queue 1 and promote prep 3 to queue 6. Whatever you plan to do, please let me know: the prep set that eventually becomes queue 2 needs to include the Vancouver cathedral from the special holding area, but I don't want to promote it until this all settles down. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:13, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

• I skipped prep 3 because one of my articles is there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

• If you don't consider it a COI, I'll put things back in the original order. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

• I have to admit I wasn't thinking in terms of COI, I was thinking in terms of planning and assembling preps knowing when they'll be promoted. I honestly don't want you to do anything you feel would be a COI on your part: if that comes up, it seems to me that the best thing would be to stop promoting when you run into a prep area that's a COI situation and leave all the remaining prep areas there, in order, for someone else to promote. The way we assemble prep areas these days, with an eye on what runs when and pulling from the special holding area so hooks run at a pre-specified time, leaving them in the right order is the safest thing to do. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

• Not that big of a COI, so I have no issues. Already done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:19, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Found it! For next time, Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 81#Queue 3 contains the formula for having a queue set give credit for DYKs on behalf of the project rather than oneself, for when one of one's own hooks is in the set :-) It was you it arose with before, you do so much work for DYK '-) --Yngvadottir (talk) 13:02, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

• That works. Added to a cheat sheet. (Not so much now, darn master's programme) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Article you requested per fair use

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B86iegI5pG5TMGFhMnA0bXNOTWM

Please let me know when you are done. I also found this list of reviews of the same book: http://www.lib.uci.edu/about/publications/wellek/wellek/a32.html Churn and change (talk) 15:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Ooops, sorry

Just saw your "thank you"-s and didn't realize there were unresolved requests there. Churn and change (talk) 17:59, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

• Oh, no problem. It wasn't immediately obvious from what was there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:00, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for List of film directors of the Dutch East Indies

The DYK project (nominate) 00:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Mereka Bilang, Saya Monyet!

		Four Award
		Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Mereka Bilang, Saya Monyet!. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks Tony! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:32, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

  That was a nice quick nom. Well done. GRAPPLE X 22:35, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

  Indeed, I was surprised. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:40, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Bosbyshell

I really don't have anything more to add. The magazine article was by the same guy who did the numismatic biography. I can't find out anything more about what he did in the 20th century. Probably just went to work every day. I added some about his family.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:25, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

• Alright, after I'm done my school work I'll return to the GAC — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:18, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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		For your consistent and extensive work for the Signpost. --Pine✉ 01:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:28, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Ok

I'm done for the night, sorry for the edit conflict(s). Mark Arsten (talk) 03:28, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

• Hehe, no problem. Alright, I'll take a look. I don't have your sources though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:29, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Rene Wellek on the writing of Theory of Literature

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B86iegI5pG5TQ2tLbkZMWHZvR1U

Please let me know when you are done. I will also message Gabriel. Churn and change (talk) 17:13, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Norbert Murphy

Crisco, does this article hold together for DYK purposes? I've been trying to get Lucky102 there, but I've lost my perspective on it, and would like an independent eye to decide (including whatever icon is appropriate). I'm not sure the latest addition does what was needed from my point of view, but I want another viewpoint. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

•  Done — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:06, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Help needed with nominations

Would you be up for reviewing any of the following nominations?

• Template:Did you know nominations/Flat Bastion Magazine
• Template:Did you know nominations/Main Guard
• Template:Did you know nominations/Nun's Well, Gibraltar
• Template:Did you know nominations/Rosia Water Tanks
• Template:Did you know nominations/Royal Gibraltar Yacht Club
• Template:Did you know nominations/The Rock Hotel

Your assistance would be much appreciated. Prioryman (talk) 07:52, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Kafka FAC

Mark A and Crisco: I really appreciate your great input on this, but I can barely follow the pile of spaghetti comments anymore. Can you guys go through and move resolved things to the talk page or something? PumpkinSky talk 23:56, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Re-listing?

Hi mate, saw you re-listed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Solidcam. Was really hoping this could just be closed, having gone on for 8 days without making any significant ground.

Not that we're "counting votes", but all of the "Keep" votes have been from meat-puppets/socks and none have included any actual arguments or cited any sources which might help the subject meet WP:GNG.

I get that the original author now wants time to find more sources but given the sock-puppetry, COI-editing and lack of willingness to engage constructively, I can't see how we're likely to get anything of value from the original author (who declared a connection to the company being WP:PROMO'd) beyond what we have so far.

If you're going to re-list it, could I ask you look at it again in a day or two, rather than let this drag on for another week?

Thanks mate, Stalwart111 (talk) 23:29, 10 October 2012 (UTC).

I agree - given the vote rigging, the underlying position is clearly a concensus to delete. Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!} ^(Whisper...) 08:37, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Solidcam afd

Given that just about all of the Keeps appear to be from the originator and "custodian" of the article and his sockpuppets or meatpuppets (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sentineldk) - can you strike the latter two out? as these are skewing how the votes actually are without them? Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!} ^(Whisper...) 08:36, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

• There was a statement that xhe would attempt to get newspaper sources. Mind you, my first thought was "screw it" and burn it with fire but I didn't mind trying a bit of AGF — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:20, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Hoodwinked! Featured Article Nomination

Hi. About a month ago, you left a number of comments on my Featured Article nomination for Hoodwinked!. The nomination was closed, but I have made an attempt to address all of the issues that you raised, and have renominated it. I was hoping that you might have the time to take another look at it. If so, I would greatly appreciate it. --Jpcase (talk) 19:16, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

• I'll try. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:18, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks! --Jpcase (talk) 00:02, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Natasha Baker

Crisco, as I wrote up the ALT4 that led to Basement12's ALT5 on this nomination, I don't feel I can approve it. Can you please take a quick look and see whether this is ready for approval or not (and supply the appropriate icon)? It's been delayed for a while, and it would be nice to get it moving forward again. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:22, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

• Commented. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:33, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks. Good point. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:55, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

TFA

soon --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:55, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks, I noticed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:03, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Excuse me?

Crisco, last I checked, I could say as I pleased, within reason. Certainly folk have on my page, Tomcat included. Please allow me the same freedom of expression. especially as it may well be my last. Kafka Liz (talk) 05:01, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

• I will not revert you any further, but I strongly suggest you reconsider your position, both on leaving and on provoking Tomcat. Let the drama llama rest. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:02, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

A) I'm not provoking, just telling the truth, and B)... adios, amigos. Kafka Liz (talk) 05:04, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

• Perhaps you do not intend to provoke, but the end results may, in the end, be the same. Having noted your edits to literary articles (an area in which I myself have interest) I think adios is, in the end, harmful to the encyclopedia, but if you find continued contribution unsustainable more the power to you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:06, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Crisco, you're someone I've always respected. My leaving is not harmful, though it may not be helpful. I'm very sick of the attitudes of people who see fit to template me, yourself and "Tomcat" included. Hope you both feel you've done a good day's work. Kafka Liz (talk) 05:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

• You did not leave a notice that you prefer not to be templated, so I did not know. Should you choose to return I will keep that in mind. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:16, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Last I checked, it was general policy not to template the regulars. I may not be entirely regular, but I am familiar with policy - I was here for a while. Kafka Liz (talk) 05:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

• WP:DTTR is an essay and not policy. Some accept it, some don't. I don't mind templates, personally, assuming they are called for. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:31, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Chapman

Thanks for the comments and copy-edit on Chapman. I won't have time to get to them tonight, but I just wanted to check something. I noticed that you are adding nbsp between numerals and words, but I'm not completely convinced that they are all necessary according to MOS. Cricket articles use a huge number of figures, and adding spaces to all of them makes editing the articles a little tricky afterwards as the figures get a little lost in code. So generally, I prefer not to use them, and I know of few other sports articles (which are inevitably heavy in statistics) which use them. However, if I am missing an important point, fair enough. Sarastro1 (talk) 23:46, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

• A habit, really. I'll stop now if you're worried about the code (not required, after all) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:53, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

For my own sanity when editing the article (too many figures!!!), I've reverted the spaces you added. Feel free to shout at me. Sarastro1 (talk) 18:04, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

• No problem, if its just the nbsp. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:37, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

What the?

I nominated a page for speedy deletion and then it was declined, I wanted to know the reason but I can't find my edit, nor the edit of the one who declined the deletion in the page history, the article is Liripop --TheChampionMan1234 05:25, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

• It was deleted by SchuminWeb then recreated by the original author several hours later. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:33, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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Move

Hallo Crisco
i have a question: an user moved the article Italo-Turkish War to Italo-Turkish War (1911-1912). This move is totally useless, since (until now :-)) Italy and Turkey have been at war only once, so there is no need to disambiguate. So, the article should be removed again (unless there is a compelling reason to stick with the new name), but I forgot the procedure. I you please tell me where is the right place to deal with this un-move? Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 09:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Hallo Crisco,

In the meantime I remembered the procedure (my Alzheimer is not that advanced yet :-)), and I put the corresponding templates on the article and its talk page. I hope that it is ok. Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 10:24, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry about it: I didn't know it was THAT important. I tried to undo the change... but system didn't allow me.
I promise I will not change war titles again ... but I have moved it because lots of battles have the year in the title: that's why.
Sorry again.
Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 11:12, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Uncontroversial move performed by Admin. Alles gut, was endet gut :-) Thanks Crisco, Alex2006 (talk) 11:21, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

• Sorry I wasn't able to help you guys, RL stuff — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:25, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

RFC on Wikipedia Administrators Noticeboard

Hallo there Cisco 1942,
thanks for helping us.
I just posted a RFC on the Administrators'_noticeboard.
I had the impression that I have been blocked from editing and I sent you an e-mail.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 11:16, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

A new world record :)

For fastest FAC! Mark Arsten (talk) 18:10, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

• Holy mother of... wow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:54, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Yes, that was a welcome surprise. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:11, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
    • Guess you're right about the dramaz coming when it reaches the main page. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:16, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks

Yeah, 9 weeks ago now! Thanks!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:14, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

• Shame I haven't had time to do any hardcore writing. Sair Tjerita Siti Akbari is my best recent article, and that's probably not FA material yet (can't find anything else about it online though) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:16, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Anggun

The article Anggun you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Anggun for comments about the article. Well done! Tomcat (7) 11:49, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Congrats...

Congrats on your 50th good article and 400th DYK! Please accept this Barnstar of Stick Figure Joy to celebrate your accomplishment. -- Khazar2 (talk) 16:48, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I mean really, please accept it. I'm not going to draw anything better. Khazar2 (talk) 16:49, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks, Khazar! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:13, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

• LOL congratulations! Wow, very well done. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:16, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks! Yeah, the stick figure rocks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:47, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	For getting Andjar Asmara up to FA status! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks Dr B! Can't wait to see if phallic architecture makes it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

The Crisco 1492 Tireless Contributor Barnstar

	The Crisco 1492 Tireless Contributor Barnstar!
	Since I nominated you for adminship a few months back, all I've seen is persistent, excellent hard work. You're repeatedly continuing to do what you're best at: the content. Congratulations on the new featured article! Thine Antique Pen (talk) 10:47, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks TAP. Yeah, I was surprised that we could get enough information on him for more than a GA. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/James Baldwin: A Soul on Fire

Crisco, can I ask you to take a look at this article and see what review icon it deserves? The original reviewer, Meditation4u, is unsure whether it's main page quality; under the circumstances, I think we need an experienced DYK hand making the determination. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:59, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

• Replied there, although I won't be able to give a tick. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:00, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you very much. I'm fine with no tick, as long as there's a comprehensive review. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:04, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Peter Sellers

Just a quick not to say thanks ever so much for taking the time on the above's FLC. We are very appreciative at having your support. Incidentally, my next splurge at FAC will be Joseph Grimaldi which is just coming to the end of its peer review. I would be very grateful if you could swing by if you have the time. Yomangani has done a good job at checking my uploaded images, but in my experience, it maybe worthwhile having a second opinion on these, as images are invariably where the future headaches lay. All the best! -- Cassianto^Talk 08:59, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• I'll consider it, but I'm not sure how much time I'll have for an FAC. At a glance it looks a little image heavy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:07, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• Hey, not a problem if you cant. I appreciate reviews take a long time and you probably have 101 other, more pressing things to do. Thanks for taking a quick look. All the best. -- Cassianto^Talk 09:43, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• Eh, I'll try and do at least the images. Not exactly 101 things, more like one: master's programme. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:06, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• I see, well definatley more important then. Thanks for obliging and please, no hurry for this. -- Cassianto^Talk 11:09, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• No problem. If you want to repay the favour (or just read something you wouldn't otherwise) there are other FLCs that could use a review. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• Of course. No good on the technical side of things, but I'll certainly have a look at everything else. -- Cassianto^Talk 11:57, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• Alright. I'm starting on the Grimaldi images. Picking up a few (nitpicky) things so far. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:59, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Your are a great contributor to wiki pedia. Thank you for that much articles.I wish you to write more and more articles and contribute wiki pedia to expand it's database Delince.samuel (talk) 15:10, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks Delince! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:24, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Copyvio concerns?

Hello Crisco. No offense taken as to your remark on the paraphrasing scrutiny in the Ghabaghib DYK nom, it's DYK criteria. Nevertheless, I'm not sure what you meant by "previous experience"? I've had over 30 DYKs passed in the past month or so, and only one attracted a paraphrasing-related comment. Not to mention that I don't remember you reviewing any of my nominations to begin with. Not a big deal, just a bit unsure as where you got that impression. Cheers. Yazan (talk) 16:21, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• Check your email. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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		I hearby award you six barnstars for you awesome work to Wikipedia, featured articles, lists, good articles, reviewing, as well as numerous good admin work. Oh, and by the way, the first barnstar I awarded you "The Barnstar Barnstar" is for receiving so many barnstars.

₥== Featured Article candidates ==

Hello. I have finished the FAC review of the article on Sudirman. May I ask you to provide in return a review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/May Revolution/archive7? The May Revolution is the event that began the war of independence of Argentina, a topic not much unlike (with the obvious diferences in place and time period) the one of the article you nominated. Thanks in advance. Cambalachero (talk) 21:47, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• I'll try, but I can't guarantee a fast review. Mid-term season. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Mail

sigh SatuSuro 02:48, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Great stuff with the portal - pity the active project members numnbers has shrunken to the point that we have non indonesian project people determining what is or isnt appropriate on the portal.... I would say great work, and dont let the londo's get to you... Unfortunately the demise of the rbbit means a loss of tweaking powers to the monkey forests of the universe.. oh well the mayan calendar runs out soon - maybe they will all head for the peak of mount fuji or something... SatuSuro 03:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

• I guess I'll go to Merbabu... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:02, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
  • haha - I dont know if you realise the significance of going to the forests on the slopes means historically - there is a brilliant article in that - the old candis with documentary mss that old old religion custodians kept lo=g after the flats had been more or less turned over to new ways of thinking - from memory there were also rumours post 66 that some villages were refuges for certain people as well... all not very easy stuff to find good solid wp;rs for - but bit like what lays (or laid) under the yogya airport tarmac - maybe the reason for the bump - did i tell you that one? SatuSuro 03:14, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
    • No, I don't think so. I remember the runway being bumpy but havent looked closely. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:17, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
      • hahahaha - dont try, specially if there are any planes about - in my day you could ride your bike unhindered onto the airport grounds at the east end (I used to have my youngest on the child seat at the back) - anyways a long story... some time off line - cheers SatuSuro 03:23, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
        • Geez, it really has changed. Mind you, even in the past five years the changes are tremendous. Cars are becoming a dominant life form. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:25, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Hiram Wesley Evans

Wow! You've done a really great job with the article. It looks very professional now. Thanks for your hard work. - Darwinek (talk) 06:09, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Just letting them know you referred me to WP:AN

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Update on Folding@home FA nomination

After an extensive discussion, I'm please to announce that Emw gave his support for promotion to FA status (diff). You asked me to alert you when this happened, so here it is. Feel free to read it over again and weigh in as you like. :D • Jesse V.^(talk) 18:12, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

• Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:58, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I noticed that you've worked on Featured Content areas of the Signpost, including lists of articles that were promoted to FA status on a particular week. The Folding@home article is likely going to be promoted, but in the meantime is there anything I can do in preparation? For other articles, I noticed that you pick a small choice snippet from their lead. What else do you need? Anything I can do to help? • Jesse V.^(talk) 02:28, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

• Considering I had some trouble with the technical aspects, perhaps preparing a short (50 word, maybe) non-technical overview of the article would help. Another editor did it with one he wrote... forget which article though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:33, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

All right. Here's one at 76 words: User talk:Jesse V./sandbox. • Jesse V.^(talk) 03:22, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

• I'll drop that in my sandbox. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:28, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Apa guna Tahukan Anda (DYK)

Kang, napa sih s'tiap artikel baru di wikipedia ini yg bagus, yg tidak menyalahi aturan wikipedia, langsung dicalonkan ke DYK? Itu gunanya apa? Semenjak sy berteman dgn kakak, semenjak itulah sy melihat aktivitas2 di wikipedia. Dan sy dapati, bahwa s'tiap artikel baru itu dicalonkan ke DYK. Itu apa gunanya? Sy bingungnya disitu. Adi.akbartauhidin (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 13:15, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

• Tidak setiap artikel yang baru dan bagus, harus dicalonkan dan bisa saja ditolak. Wikipedia bahasa Inggris berkembang dengan lebih dari seribu artikel setiap hari, tidak mungkin semua diajukan.

Kalau soal Tahukah Anda, itu memancing pembaca2 untuk mencari informasi tentang sesuatu yang mereka tidak pernah ketahui sebelumnya, termasuk ttg tokoh2 Indonesia. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:20, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Mohammad Said Hamid Junid

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

The Expert Barnstar

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		I hereby award you the Expert Barnstar for your outstanding contributions to Indonesia-related topics. This award is given to a few people who are regarded experts in one or several particular fields. Congrats and keep up your excellent work :)!--Tomcat (7) 12:42, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks TomCat! I'm getting there, but not world class yet (hehe) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:45, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Mohon diperiksa

Apa?????? Kakak berkawan dgn (serangga) Tomcat.Itu sudah sy perbaiki artikel Andjar Asmara beserta referensi2nya. Silakan kakak lihat. Adi.akbartauhidin (talk • contribs)

• Kelihatan Oke. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:11, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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  • Thanks Drmies. Glad to get some editing done in between the piles of essays and papers. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:19, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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[1]- if there is one, there must be million waiting to do that - revert your cleanup and put the crap back in... SatuSuro 12:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

• Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:50, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
• Thanks... till next time sampai jumpa SatuSuro 13:43, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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I am thinking since a long time to get involved with Signpost but I just don't know how to start. Can you please help me? ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 13:57, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

• Well, what interests you? Featured content, Wikipedia in the mainstream news (we need someone there), on-site news, technical stuff...? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:59, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

• Featured content and WikiProject report are my favourite. I have got some interest in mainstream news but I on't think that I am good enough for it. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 14:02, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

• Well, if you like featured content you could take a shot at writing some blurbs or working on some collaboratively. Honestly I don't like writing the blurbs for my own articles (possible COI), so I'd love to let someone else do that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:06, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

• Yes boss! I am on it. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 14:10, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

• Usually I use WP:FLL, WP:FAL, and P:FC to hunt down the most recent promotions. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:13, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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• Well, I missed that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:21, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Scanned page 316 of the Waugh book

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Please let me know when you are done, or if you need a few other pages. Churn and change (talk) 23:14, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Mass in B minor structure

Crisco, can I ask you to take a look at this one? The back-and-forth between Gerda and Abyssal doesn't seem to have established whether this is a legitimate sub-article or not, and it's not something I feel qualified to parse. As an admin, I figure you live and breathe this sort of thing, or at least know who does. I didn't want to add it to my list of articles needing review lest it be picked up by someone even less qualified than I, though if you do deem it appropriate, just let me know, or add it directly to my new list of articles needing review, which I'm preparing now. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:10, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• I don't know enough about the subject area, sorry. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:26, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Tolong jawab

Tolong jawab pertanyaan sy di di sini. --Adi.akbartauhidin 06:29, 25 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adi.akbartauhidin (talk • contribs)

• Sudah jawab di sana. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:42, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Pierre Monteux

As you participated in the Pierre Monteux peer review, I am letting you know that after some email discussions with Tim riley, and some final polishing, I have co-nominated this article at FAC. This was Tim's current project when he decided to leave Wikipedia, but I think it is worthy of consideration for promotion. Any comments at the FAC are welcome. Brianboulton (talk) 10:50, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• I'll be sure to drop by. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:54, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Just noticed ...

... your Userbox says you're Labutnum of the Encyclopedia - aren't you Illustrious Looshpah by now?
Just wondered ... Regards, Mottengott (talk) 11:32, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• Yeah, something like that. The page is never up to date (it's at least 40 articles behind on the created page, might just take that out) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:49, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Btw, could you take a look at this? The MoS couldn't help me on this one.
    Mottengott (talk) 12:04, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
    • Thanks. Mottengott (talk) 12:46, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

List of prime ministers of Indonesia

I just wanted to bring up that the list of Prime Ministers of Indonesia as it stands is slightly faulty as it conflates the pre-1950 Republic of Indonesia and the Republic of the United States of Indonesia, which were separate entities from 1949 to 1950. Mohammad Hatta was Prime Minister of the RUSI until August 1950; Natsir succeeded Hatta directly since the modern republic was proclaimed as a successor to the RUSI: Hatta ceased to be Prime Minister of the RUSI on 17 August 1950 when the RUSI was dissolved and replaced by the modern Republic of Indonesia; Natsir was appointed as formateur on 21 August and became Prime Minister shortly after. Abdul Halim was not involved in this succession, from January to August 17 he was Prime Minister of the "Republic of Indonesia" which was a member-state of the RUSI, but he was not PM of Indonesia as a whole. I will copy this point to the article talk page, but I wanted to raise it to you directly since you're actually around and so it stands a better chance of getting addressed. --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 14:56, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• Yeah, that list needs work - especially in dealing with the coinciding RIS and RI governments. Any thoughts on formatting? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:16, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar for you!

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Crisco, I really want to thank you for your help with reviewing my FA nomination of Folding@home. The article improve substantially for the better as a result of your efforts, and for that I am grateful. I am elated by the nomination's success, thanks for helping out! • Jesse V.(talk) 15:00, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• Way to go! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:19, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! It took a lot of time and effort but I'm very pleased at how it turned out. • Jesse V.^(talk) 23:40, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

On a related note, if you could please give your opinion on the Folding@home nomination in Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests, I'd sure appreciate it. :) • Jesse V.^(talk) 23:40, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. It was abruptly scheduled for November 1st. Anyway, I'm happy with that. :) • Jesse V.^(talk) 00:37, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

• Wow, that was quick. Kewl. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:48, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Yeah tell me about it. I was replying to you guys, had an edit conflict, and then I was shocked and bewildered to find the entire section gone! (see [2]) Quite abrupt and surprisingly fast without any warning. Anyway, it worked out. :) • Jesse V.^(talk) 00:54, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Regarding your comment

Hi - regarding your comment about me and your (woof woof) post, "And you're uninvolved? I doubt that, per Bgwhite's note below." diff - Please see this discussion User_talk:Bgwhite#please_provide_diffs_or_retract and this retraction/striking of his comment- diff - regards - Youreallycan 16:50, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Freedom of speech = New WikiProject

• WP:WikiProject Freedom of speech

Hi there, I'm notifying you as I noticed your excellent work on the Featured List page, CPJ International Press Freedom Awards. I've recently gone ahead and created WP:WikiProject Freedom of speech. If you're interested, here are some easy things you can do:

1. List yourself as a participant in the WikiProject, by adding your username here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Freedom_of_speech#Participants.
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• I'll take a look. Be sure to contact Khazar2 as well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:20, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

2 FLCs

I think you're right when you said in Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Archbishops of Vancouver/archive1 that the list should be merged into the main article. There are now 2 oppose votes to the FLC; do you think I should withdraw the nomination because of this? The two reviewers said I should expand the list, but there really isn't much I can add further to it (since all the bios are in the individual articles linked).

Furthermore, could I trouble you to review my other FLC (Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Dick Howser Trophy/archive1). It's on the verge of getting passed and the co-nominator of this FLC needs it passed by October 31 in order for him to count it towards his 2012 WikiCup points. Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 20:16, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• Withdrawal may be the best course. I'll be happy to look at the trophy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:30, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations on Featured Portal

Congratulations, Portal:Indonesia is now a Featured Portal! Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 05:00, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks Cirt. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:04, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
  • • • Well Done - the Indonesia project and portal are what they are cos of you - thanks.... !!!!!!!SatuSuro 08:43, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
        • Glad we got this over with. Now: to build Portal:Cinema of Indonesia. We probably have enough to get it featured too :-D — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:45, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
          • • OMG as long it doesnt give anyone an idea for Portal:Soccer in Indonesia, unless.... SatuSuro 15:08, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
              • Erm... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:10, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
                • actually what would you say a rejig for GA at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kassian_Cephas it looks as though it wouldnt take much to get it up... any thoughts? SatuSuro 00:13, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

It wouldn't, would it? I'd be much more comfortable with some more sources. "The Transfixed Spectator: The World as a Stage in the Photographs of Kassian Cephas" needs to be cited, at least. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:17, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Just a comment, has it passed or not? The candidacy subpage doesn't indicate final passage and the portal doesn't yet have the star. Chris857 (talk) 03:27, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

• I'm confused, as Gimeetoo reverted the close although Cirt clearly indicated that the portal was promoted. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:29, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Kang, sy yg tdk punya kontribusi banyak seperti ka2k yg senior ini juga ikut berucap selamat atas dijadikannya Portal:Indonesia dijadikan portal pilihan.

Allahumma, Kak Kris nak (mau) bikin portal perfilman Indonesia. Saya sih setuju aja, tapi sy hendak support, tapi tak tahu caranya. Kalau sudah jadi, kasitahu sy dan kasitahu juga k sy gimana caranya ngebantuin Kakak Kris, ya? User:Adi.akbartauhidin (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:39, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

• Kalau saya sempat membangunnya, saya akan kabari. Ini masih banyak me-review artikel dan portal lain. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:41, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations

File:2709 Horses 300.jpg	Steeplechase award
	Many congratulations to Crisco 1492 on winning the Wikipedia steeplechase award for the feat of creating featured content in five different categories: articles, lists, photographs, portals and topics. A magnificent achievement, demonstrating your hard work, stamina, and ability to overcome many obstacles. BencherliteTalk 11:07, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Strong support to the above, in addition: I frequently take refuge to your precious standing strong, thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:15, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Amazing--congrats, man. Khazar2 (talk) 11:31, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks everyone! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:59, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

thank you you for the DYK there about the Sumatran striped rabbit, I missed it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:15, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

• That was never on the main page, but yes... I miss him too. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

(ec) ps: for Portal:Opera, they only accept DYK that appeared on the Main page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

• I grandfathered some old DYKs in, to respect the portal's original builders. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:20, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

• Respect! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:26, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

• R-E-S-P-E-C-T! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:38, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

• Very nice. Congrats.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:07, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:08, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

FLC

Hi Crisco! Can I bug you to take a look at the FLC for List of Awake cast members. It's pretty short. Thanks! TBrandley 23:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• Hi TBrandley. If you address the comments there already I'll try — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:19, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Imagine (song) FAC image review

Ping. Cheers! ~ GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 06:36, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

William P. Didusch Center for Urologic History

There ya go, that drawing is making me shudder with fear LOL.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 08:47, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

• OMG. Yeah, that's terrifying. I'll copyedit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:50, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Oww, that does look painful. Thankfully our Urethral foreign body article has no images... shudder.
  • On a less uncomfortable note, thanks a lot for the thorough PR of COSG. It took me a while to get through them all, but I think the page is really improved. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:09, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
    • You're welcome. Blame Cracked.com for the article *hehe* — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:28, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK

I switched up the grammar a little on Template:Did you know nominations/Strange Fruit (novel). Grammar isn't always my strongest point, but I think the newer hook flows a little better. If you have any suggestions, feel free to let me know!Tokyogirl79 (talk) 16:18, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

• Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:22, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

SubGenius again

Quick question, do you think that an image of one of their pamphlets might qualify for a fair-use image? Mark Arsten (talk) 20:48, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

• Doubt it... NFCC #8 can be a pain to pass. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:17, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Ok, I won't bother then--FAC is tricky enough without problematic images. This would make a great April 1 TFA though ... long way to go before that though. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:37, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
    • Indeed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:39, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Joanna Clapps Herman

Hi there, I created a page awhile back for Joanna Clapps Herman previously and it was deleted because of lack of references but I've found more articles and would like to try again. It was also the first page I had ever created so I think I've gotten better and understand how it works. Is this something I can go ahead and post or do I have to go through some other kind of process. You seem like you know a lot about Wiki and I'd love to learn more! Thanks again, Srdemuro (talk) 19:11, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank so much! I had worked on it in my sandbox (is that the correct term?) before so I updated the user page that you provided, is it possible to get it looked at now and see if it's better than the last one? Thanks again, hope you're having a nice weekend. Srdemuro (talk) 13:31, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Sy kagum terhadap penulis2 baru dari wikipedia Bahasa Inggris. Lihatlah terhadap bung Srdemuro, tulisannya dihapus (lalu dipindahkan ke subhalaman dia), dia tidak marah dan malah semakin bersemangat belajar terhadap peraturan2 wikipedia. Kenapa kalo orang Indonesia klo setiap nulis artikel, lalu dihapus langsung dia marah dan berjanji meninggalkan wikipedia. Kenapa keadaannya seperti ini? Adi.akbartauhidin (talk • contribs)

• Srdemuro is one of a rare breed, I think. Most English editors are the same: article deleted, gives up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:38, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Oh, terima kasih atas penjelasannya. Adi.akbartauhidin (talk • contribs)

• You're welcome. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:22, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Tunggu dulu, Kak Kris. Itu orang rupanya pengguna lama dan rupanya saya salah kira.

Jalan-jalan ke Kota Pati,

Janganlah lupa bertemu Pak Tani.

Apabila banyak kata tak berkenan di hati,

maafkanlah saya yang banyak dosa ini.

Salam dari Budak (orang) Melayu. --Muhammad Adi Akbar Attauhidin 12:35, 21 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adi.akbartauhidin (talk • contribs)

Hey again, thanks for being so helpful with this, I'm determined! I found a few newspapers, not huge ones, but decently popular - two different Patch newspapers and the Rockland Times (started 1888), so should I add those to begin with, until I find more? Srdemuro (talk) 19:28, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

The newspapers are Rockland Times & The Bronxville Patch. Where can I find information on how to make my reference formatting better? Thanks for the encouragement & patience, it's tough to be a new editor! Srdemuro (talk) 11:13, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey again, sorry to bother you again, I redid lots of the citations as suggested, how do they look? I prefer the look of the dates being at the end of the citations instead of the beginning, just for aesthetic reasons/I have always been taught to cite this way. Let me know if this something you think I should change. Thanks for your time!! I've been working hard at this. Srdemuro (talk) 23:49, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey there, I fixed the citations you spoke of and realized I was missing a lot of publishers, so I went back and added them. Let me know what you think now. Srdemuro (talk) 19:27, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Okay so I'll work on finding more resources and fixing publishers so they're not italicized. I know that academic journals are usually italicized but not websites and such. I'll fix this. Can we publish it in the meantime? I know it's borderline but I'd really like to see it up there and then I can continue adding to it as I find more resources. Please give me a chance? First time editor pity? haha. Not sure where you are but this hurricane Sandy is crazy on the East Coast of US where I am. Srdemuro (talk) 15:14, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

The Joke

So I just put together my first film article after watching this movie last night and being surprised that it didn't have an entry. This doesn't necessarily need close proofreading, but would you take a glance and make sure the article format is consistent with other film articles? I know you know your way around these.

Also, I can't find images of any surviving posters, as this one was banned shortly after release. Would it be fair use to put an image of the video box (e.g. [3] or a still (e.g. [4])? Or both? Thanks, man, enjoy the day. -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:27, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

• Looks fine, I've changed a little to standardize it. Any background information or thematic discussion? The DVD box would be fine, use {{Non-free video cover}} and {{Non-free use rationale video cover}}. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:31, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, you can cite AllMovie for the 2002 release. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:33, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Didn't turn up much thematic discussion yet, but I'm hoping to pick up Vogel's Film as a Subversive Art, which appears to have some discussion of it. -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

• Like — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:54, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Tengkorak Hidoep

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Enjoy ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:08, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Did you like the article 'tis the season? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:39, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

• Indeed! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:40, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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Could you add that category to my user page? It is fully protected. Thanks --Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 13:40, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I am only an editor, and not a mop-equipped superhero. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 13:43, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I, on the other hand... (to clarify: done.) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 13:45, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 13:48, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

• LOL. Sorry everyone, had to go out to print my midterm answers for my literary reception course. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:20, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

• Is the fact that it's a redlink some wry commentary on your progress? :P GRAPPLE X 15:12, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

• No, more like "my brain is rotting so I can't close links". If you could read Indonesian I'd sent it to you. Jauss... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:27, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for Leo Minor

I've never done archived web links ('bout time I learned I guess). Am still getting the hang of astronomy articles as it's a bit of a change from all the biology ones I do.....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:19, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

• They're certainly useful. When Tempo's archive changed from free and open access to subscription only, my archives were the only things making sure a lot of articles remained verifiable. I understand how hard it can be to shift. I do pretty bad with lakes and cities. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Theory of Literature query

Hi Crisco,

I've spent a couple of pleasant hours in the first few chapters of ToL. Unfortunately I've only been able to locate the third edition (the second Penguin imprint, 1982) and the page numbers are significantly different from the 1949 edition you used to write the article. Mostly this isn't a problem, but I did run across across a sentence where the cite is eluding me, and I'm wondering if this may be due to a difference between the text of the two editions. The sentence is "They define literary scholarship as extremely personal[21] and contrasted with the literary arts by its scientific and not creative approach.[22]" Notes 21 and 22 refer to pages 8 and 3, respectively. When you get a moment, could you send me the first few words of the two paragraphs that contain the material you were citing?

Specifically, this edition does discuss scientific approaches to literature (echos of Pound, of course), but I'm not seeing the contrast made between "literary scholarship" and "literary arts".

Please reply here rather than on my page. It helps me keep track of who said what to whom.

Thanks!

GaramondLethe 21:09, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

• I'll actually try and email quotes via email, to avoid copyright problems. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:56, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

• As a side note, I used "literary arts" in opposition to "literature" to emphasise that they were referring to creative literature. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:20, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

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