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  • 15:19, 7 January 2014 Harrias (talk | contribs) blocked AssociateAffiliate (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite (WP:OUTING is not acceptable under any circumstance)

This is completely incorrect and therefore unjust. You cannot "out" someone who has freely told the community at the outset of his "activities" on the site what his real name is and backed that up by providing salient facts about himself. Furthermore, the individual in question has subsequently never made any secret whatsoever of his true identity and has sometimes signed himself off using his name or initials.

Going right back to the beginning of the Daft saga, there is this diff in which he states his real name in the final line while within the body of the post is confirmation of his former role in the ACS, all of which is further confirmed by the relevant ACS publication. Therefore, he "outed" himself, freely and voluntarily, soon after he started using the site.

It would seem that you have overstepped the mark somewhat in the language used in the post that was subsequently erased, understandable given the provocation you have suffered, but still not the right way to go about it. If you apologise for swearing and undertake to abide by WP:RBI in future, using WP:BMB as reason for reverting Daft's edits, I'm sure that your case for reinstatement cannot be denied. In short, although you should not have retaliated as you did, you cannot be deemed guilty of WP:OUTING and so the block is completely unfair. HCCC14 (talk) 20:01, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello again! I have to say I am completely steadfast in refusing to apologise, I simply called out this troll like others should have done. He made lurid comments about me, so I made some about his visit to the Netherlands and one or two of their specialities. But I won't apologise because I'm never one for appeasement and I stick by my actions. As we know, others within WP:CRIC appeased Daft and allowed his socks to harrass other users, ignoring WP:BAN. That to me makes several of them accessories to Daft's actions, with some more than others who should resign for their Neville Chamberlain attitude. I'm pissed off by the heavy handed tactics of the user who blocked me, and when questioned by another user why it was indefinite he denied it was meant to indefinite, which I don't buy. If that were the case, obviously the ban would not have been so. Daft has acheived his aims on this site by driving away editors and now we are left with the motley crue who claim Lordship over this project, yet allow disruptive elements to remain. They should be ashamed, as forementioned, some should resign over their conduct and lack of integrity. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 23:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
See my posts to Rambling Man and Harrias. I'm asking for you reinstatement on grounds of unjust cause and unfair term. I think all you should do is confirm that you will comply strictly with WP:RBI in future but use WP:BMB when appropriate. RBI is fair enough if you read it. HCCC14 (talk) 09:18, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
HCCC14, frankly you have no idea what you are talking about. As far as I am aware, you did not read the post for which I blocked User:AssociateAffiliate. If you did, you would realise it was far more than simply mentioning another user's real name. The ban was never intended to be permanent, it was merely that at the time I made it indefinite until I, in conjunction with the community, could decide on an appropriate length ban. AA has since stated that he has no desire to return to the site, so I have seen no reason to consider a suitable length. If AA does which to return, then I am happy to start that dialogue at any such point. His comment above would suggest that this is unlikely to be the case though. Harrias talk 13:52, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, so I "don't know what I'm talking about" because I didn't see the post that you and Johnlp found so offensive. Do you know what you are talking about or are you so ARROGANT, because you are a WP admin (for crying out loud!), that the whole world must accept you are a "qualified" administrator and that you are "always right"? This has gone on long enough. Why should AA apologise when he has been subjected to long-term abuse and what are you doing to protect other users from similar abuse, not just from Richard Daft but other people who also have an axe to grind with this site? This is not about some kid who comes on and writes "pooh" somewhere, so you revert it and Wales & Co. think: "Oh, what a good little boy Harrias is, let's make him an admin". Where is the common sense and the natural justice of the situation? I have already outlined to you what you should do and I will repeat myself below. And may I say that I am a qualified person in such matters in the REAL WORLD whereas you most surely are not. Or are you? Somehow I doubt it.

You are an individual who has already defended Johnlp's "divine right" to have Richard Daft's posts on his talk page, even after another, wiser, administrator had erased them, not merely removed them, because they must have been especially offensive to the editor who complained about them. So where does that leave you? Terms like "double standards", "hypocrisy" and "incompetence" come to mind because this whole thing absolutely STINKS, especially your own insufferable arrogance. Who do you think you are? Blair, perhaps? Well, that would be the answer, would it not?

Given your infinite "administrative" experience and wisdom, please outline to me how an administrator can be brought to book on this increasingly appalling site and made to account for his gross incompetence and arrogance with a view to getting his Wales-given rights taken away from him? You are not even a particularly good editor, bearing in mind the number of times your stuff has had to be corrected.

Coming back to what I have told you to do, and which you have ignored previously, I will repeat myself. You need to ask AA to give not an apology but an undertaking that he will in future respect the terms of WP:RBI, one of the more sensible "policies" on this inane site (inane because of idiotic "administrators"), and also promise that he will utilise WP:BMB in future when he encounters an edit or post put there by a banned editor and say nothing more in the edit summary than "rv per WP:BMB".

If you don't like the way I have addressed you in this post, don't in future be so RUDE and condescending as to assume that your Wales-given admin "status" on this site makes you into some kind of superior being who can tell other people that they don't know what they are talking about.

You don't know what you are talking about. You.

If this farce gets into the papers you will be exposed and hung out to dry. It is all about natural justice. Okay, AA retaliated badly to extreme provocation. So, if you were a competent admin who is not in the thrall of Daft's friend Johnlp, you would have issued a warning to AA and blocked him for a week until he cooled down and then you would have let him continue doing the excellent work he has done. And he is certainly a much better editor than you are. No contest there. You did not take that sensible, intelligent, compassionate course at all, even though another more experienced admin/editor questioned you about it on WT:CRIC. What you say above about "never intended to be", etc. is just the sort of crap one would expect from Blair and his ilk. You are using "soundbites" to cover something up and the one thing I especially do NOT like is your relationship with Johnlp and this whole thing about ensuring that Daft must be heard. As I say, something STINKS. HCCC14 (talk) 20:19, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Dude, "If this farce gets into the papers you will be exposed and hung out to dry."? Really? Not to mention that this is a borderline threat with no substance whatsoever, you forgot the whole point which was that if AA wants to come back, it's entirely up to him to do something about it. Why you seem to firmly believe that you've become his mouthpiece is beyond me (and others, it would appear). Probably best now to drop it, do as you suggested and move onto other things. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:42, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
DON'T use imbecile words like "dude". I thought you had more intelligence. AA does want to come back if you read his comments above. He has simply refused to apologise because he should not have to do so given the extreme provocation he has endured. The natural justice of this situation is that a cooling off period of, say, one week would have been sufficient given his (understandable) retaliation. He has made his position clear. He will come back if the block is lifted but he will not apologise as the incompetent admin insists he must. As there is a stalemate, someone elee must step in, despite the lunacy of this increasingly appalling site. The whole thing stinks and the banned editor is winning. HCCC14 (talk) 21:03, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Another thing. You have already said that this is all up to Harrias, he who knows what he is talking about. So what are you doing here? Can't he speak for himself? HCCC14 (talk) 21:11, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I think you've lost the plot. This is not Harrias' talk page. If you wish to address Harrias directly, you should use his talk page, not this one. As mentioned, variously, if AA wants back, he can ask. You don't need to do that on his behalf. Is that clear? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:35, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for fighting my corner HCCC14, much appreciated that honorable users still exist! You continue to raise many valid points about the appeasement of Daft by several users on here, as we know all too well, appeasement just don't work! However, I still struggle to believe that the ban was not meant to be permanent and was not done with malicious intent. This is not the first time Daft's personal information has been released on this site, it has happened on two previous occasions, where I blanked the page; you didn't see me run off to the admin police now did you. So perhaps it's time for a challenge, test the sincerity of some users. I don't want to go through all the bureaucratic nonsense of some other admin process to get this account unblocked. If the ban was not meant to be indefinite, then my challenge to you Harrias is to unblock this account. Perhaps that way the truth of your words will be revealed? Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 12:43, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Your kind words and thought provoking arguments have motivated me to assess your block, and I have changed it to a set period of one week from now. Harrias talk 21:40, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Thoughts

I recently posted at WT:CRICKET about another matter, and noticed a reference to this when looking at the responses. I know nothing about cricket or the background to the situation mentioned on this page, but there are some points that might be born in mind. First, there is never a need to offer an apology to be unblocked—any suggestion to the contrary is incorrect. Second, when dealing with long-term trolling, the only remedy is WP:DENY. Any attempt to engage with a troll is counter productive—appealing to them, contradicting them, abusing them, explaining things to them, are all ineffective. In fact, any communication whatsoever is counter productive as it only encourages them to continue because communication says that you have noticed them and care, and that you are susceptible to further commentary from the troll.

Another important point is that debating issues with admins is rarely productive. Someone obviously thinks that outing occurred, and whether that is correct or not, or justified or not (outing is never justifiable at Wikipedia), it is common for an indefinite block to occur. In this context, "indefinite" means "until there is a plausible statement that outing, if it occurred, will not be repeated"—that might be half an hour. As mentioned, I do not know what occurred, but for an unblock all that is needed is a simple statement that while you may not agree with the assessment of your comment as outing, you understand that WP:OUTING is not permitted under any circumstances, and you will not reveal personal information about a user ("reveal" = disclose anything personal that is not currently shown on one of the user's pages).

Wikipedia is a strange place, but the reason for the strict outing procedure is pretty simple to understand. While it may at first glance appear reasonable to reveal information about someone who has been abusing the encyclopedia, if that were accepted, whenever an outing case arose an admin would have to assess whether the outing was "deserved". Good reasons can be advanced to say that even "deserved" outing is unacceptable, but disregarding that, it would obviously be untenable to have people debating the merits of a particular outing case. In brief, the community has (correctly) decided that absolutely no outing may occur. Johnuniq (talk) 01:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

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NWO loathsome individuals

Thank you for adding more people to my list ! I have some characters above my list but I didn't have the time to add them, most of them are Ukrainian fascists,oligarchs,stooges of imperialists in a nutshell,so feel free to add them. How could I forget that Belgian freak ???!!! He is poised to take some important role in the EU now that Barroso and Rompuy are leaving their posts.They just keep recycling these puppets ! I had some problems with internet lately, floos and heavy rains. Long story. Cheers :) ! --Killuminator (talk) 16:58, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

There is a fellow Belgian figure with similar physical features ;). --Killuminator (talk) 21:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
You'd be amazed if you knew all the absurdities that surround my city and country in general ! We have not ONE ! not TWO ! but THREE heads of state !!! and it's hereditary gang,like a monarchy.We have a constitution that was imposed by Western nations,a discriminatory elective system,two entities (one of them is led by a racist secessionist demagogue),10 cantons and more which makes a monstrous political bureaucracy. Our political elite lives like the Gods of Olympus while most of the youth is unemployed. And a cherry on top, we have a governor general imposed by the EU. Political reform is nearly impossible cuz all the different religious groups. It's a tough place to live, especially when your leaders have to go to the US Embassy to get advice on how to run things. --Killuminator (talk) 22:14, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm no fan of your senile lizard Queen, in fact, I prepared champagne for when she finally kicks the bucket. I believe her funeral will be one of the most televised events in history and I love quality television lol. I forgot to mention that our upper house of parliament is not democratically elected, just like the House of Lords ! Only difference, it's called House of Peoples and has a fixed number of 15 seats, criminals and good for nothings nonetheless. The Royal Family are an amusing bunch in some way, a racist Danish born (calling him Greek would be an insult to that nation) prince,controversial divorces,skeletons in the closet,Prince Harry and his nightlife adventures,and IMHO they are a really ugly bunch of inbred cretins (spouses included).--Killuminator (talk) 22:52, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
I love the new additions, how could I forget about the Bandit :O. Anyway, the list needs more Europeans.Check out the Ukrainians XD. Cheers ! --Killuminator (talk) 22:46, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
I know you're not very active, but there is one really annoying elitist user on the loose, not to mention he wants us to die.--Killuminator (talk) 10:33, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
I guess we dissed the Welsh national mascot too much for his taste, hah.--Killuminator (talk) 20:52, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
In other news, there are new candidates for the most transparent and democratic institution in the EU like the Iron Lady ( No, not her,they give this nickname to even the most irrelevant puppets in world politics) and the lovely Mrs. Kinnock (the world really is a small place huh ?).--Killuminator (talk) 21:44, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
He really is persistent, and he keeps messing up a page you created.--Killuminator (talk) 13:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
My great grandparents fought Hitler ahhh, the ignorance of this person/thing. A fellow user (a genuine though) removed the list, I have a spare tucked away far far away so no biggy. The World Cup is starting soon, and I'm really hyped. Hopefully the host will not disappoint me.--Killuminator (talk) 18:59, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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Want a good laugh?

Try this one. It's the section right at the bottom of the page. Sorry, I really shouldn't be talking to myself, should I? Hope you are okay. All the best. Jack | talk page 11:57, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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Sandboxes

Hi AA. I'm sure you won't mind but I've asked Jenks to place page protection on all your sandboxes (and on mine too). He has kindly done some more reverts today. I don't know yet if he's allowed to do that but see what he says. Thanks. Jack | talk page 16:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

This one's a classic

See User talk:EaKapake and all the contribs. Arguably the funniest one yet. Don't SPI it just yet, though. Might produce a few more laughs still. Note after all I said that the talk page has been suitably blanked per usual playground tantrum. All the best. Jack | talk page 21:10, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

@BlackJack:, is he talking to himself there? Both those accounts I assume are him??? Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 21:22, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Nothing would surprise me any more. LOL. Jack | talk page 21:24, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
@BlackJack:, he would definitely be a psychiatrists field-day! I assume you've met him in person and I'm guessing he's just as batshit? PS: I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed the discrepancies in his "life story"... he'll be an astronaut in his next incarnation. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Actually I have never met him. I only ever met one person in the ACS and he has been a useful source of information about the goings on there. However, I found the TV appearance he's on about and here he is. Jack | talk page 21:35, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

@BlackJack:, is he one of the people in this band, singing this rather poor song?!?! He mentioned in this diff getting elected in a major trade union and this diff about a interview he was in recently? Any idea what he's on about? Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 21:46, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to ruin the fun guys, I blocked him before I saw this. In any case I'm sure he'll be back again spouting more bizarre stories. Best, Jenks24 (talk) 10:03, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Quite all right, Jenks. LOL.
AA, the group is the Strawbs who had a huge hit (why, I do not know!) with that awful song in the seventies. He's nothing to do with the Strawbs but perhaps he's a fan and that's why he is now a union man? I really don't know what this "big story" is which required a "profound statement" on TV. Yes, I think an astronut could easily be his next one! Jack | talk page 18:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
@BlackJack: I have to confess I've never heard of them before. Not quite Linkin Park! I've had a google and found nothing in Mid Wales or which seems to relate to a big union story. I'll put that down as yet more fantasy. Astronut for sure... Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 19:07, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

No, he's not an astronut this time. We were wrong. He's a baby in a pram and keeps spitting his dummy out. Well, I suppose that's better than being a benefit cheat up the Rhondda. You'd better check your recent national team articles to make sure baby hasn't spilt his milky-wilk over them. He is sick, isn't he? Jack | talk page 20:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

@BlackJack: Hahaha I'm picturing Stewie Griffin, only less cool and without a talking dog! Tune in next week when Daft becomes Lord President of the Time Lords...! Yes he's certainly mentally sick, I urban explored a loony asylum near to where he lived in Wales, sadly it's now closed :-( I think he would have been right at home there! Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 20:57, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Maybe he escaped from it? Jack | talk page 21:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps he remembers his stay at the Denbigh Mental Asylum? I see in this diff he's now German, or obviously using the error ridden Google Translate! I'm also fictional! I'm pretty sure if I gave Daft a set of coordinates he wouldn't turn up... Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 21:14, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
The German thing is because I went there recently on business and he thinks I will be impressed by his "mastery" of the language. As you say, he has used Google and the result is that he has achieved the near-impossible of writing worse German than his execrable English. Having said that, Google must have had to translate "English" that was completely incoherent and did well to come up with even incoherent German. By the way, my name's Jack, Black Jack. Yours must be Affiliate, Associate Affiliate. LOL! Jack | talk page 21:53, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

The ACS

Hi AA, I know you are boycotting WT:CRIC but please see a post I've just placed there following a call I've received from one of my ACS contacts. I'll let you know if there's a follow-up. Jack | talk page 17:24, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

@BlackJack: That is interesting what the ACS has to say. It seems the one thing Daft is good at is BS. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 22:56, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Away again

Hi AA. I have to go away again tomorrow morning. Work, work, work. So I'll be out of touch for the rest of this week certainly and then next week we're planning a holiday providing we can get a suitable late booking. Can you please keep an eye on things for me as no doubt the baby will start flinging his Wisdens out of his pram again. Thanks a lot and will be in touch soon. Jack | talk page 20:27, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi AA. I'm back but it's a flying visit as we're going on holiday this afternoon. Two weeks beside the North Sea (I hope Hurricane Bertha has gone!). I've been in Stevenage for the last three days working with one of our IT service providers. Journeys both ways were awful and if you hear anyone down south complain about the M25 again, tell them to come and try the horrendous M62! While we're away, my wife's sister and her husband are staying in our house. He had surgery recently and is still recuperating. They live in an urban area so it will be good for him to spend a couple of weeks in the country (or within a stone's throw of the country). Anyway, they've bought me a book to read on holiday which is Never a Gentlemen's Game by Malcolm Knox. Have you read it? I'll let you know what I think of it.
Well, I see the looney was around while I was away and has had a go at both Harrias and Johnlp besides making a complete arse of himself at WP:ANI (see the IP contribs I've just moved to his SPI). He claims that he IS a member of the ACS and that he has assured himself that none of its 1,000-plus members contacted me in the previous 24 hours. How can anyone be so utterly and completely stupid and idiotic as to make a statement like that and expect intelligent people to believe it? The ACS has an ageing membership with loads who don't have e-mail addresses and many who can't be contacted by phone. Yet he has managed to get an assurance from every last one of them that they haven't spoken to me or used WP! This alone confirms how obsessed he is, what a liar he is and that he lives on a planet circling the third star in Orion's belt. Oh, and he complains about personal attacks too so also confirms what a hypocrite he is. On the plus side, he seems to have stopped being Arthur Scargill so he won't be singing Part of the Union any more. He must need a new signature song which just has to be They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa! That should precipitate a good old ranting and raving session somewhere, to be instantly deleted by WP:Twinkle. :-)
I'm not taking my laptop on holiday so no WP for the next two weeks. Walking and reading instead. I'll be in touch. All the best. Jack | talk page 07:10, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

About Mahela's Half-centuries

I think, for a sportsman to be completed with all the facts, it should includes his or her personal bests, in cricket, it can be scoring a century, half-century, fastest scoring and as well as importance to him for the team... So including half-century is really a tough job and so including how many half-centuries he scored is really provide the status or rank of that person in the cricket arena.... Thank You

@Gihan Jayaweera: The problem with half centuries is when compared to centuries the feat is more common and thus less notable. Hence we don't have lists for Jack Hobbs' 28 or Sachin Tendulkar's 68 half centuries. There is still a List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Rangana Herath which needs creating :-) Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 11:15, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes..it is true...but I think Sachin has more than 68 half-centuries. I think he has more than 90 ODI half-centuries. But scoring a half-century in T20I is really a tough job , as you know. SO mentioning only the T20I half-centuries is not good I think. But it is my opinion.. Pleasure to hear that there is one more thing to create, about Ranagana's 5 wicket hauls.. Don't worry, I will create that page also... But interestingly, you known Muttiah has more than 60 test 5 wicket hauls... So getting 5 wicket hauls is a normal thing to him...But for others, it is difficult. Scoring half-century in a crucial inning for win or loss is also like that I think.. Thank you...Appreciate your thoughts...

@Gihan Jayaweera: Yes, Sachin was a milestone making machine! It's good to see someone from Sri Lanka contributing to cricket articles on here, as at the moment the cricket stuff is mostly dominated by English and Australians, which reflects in our content. So annoyingly articles like Sinhalese Sports Club have very little content :-( Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 07:37, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Of course bro...I will do my best.. I will update every Sri Lankan cricket page with my level best.. Appreciate your thoughts pal.....

Nice work

I know we haven't particularly seen eye to eye over recent times, but I just wanted to drop you a note to say nice work for all the article creation and categorisation that you do. I've done bits and pieces of similar, but have to admit that I can't handle continuing at it for too long, whereas you seem to be relentless! I have no idea how you manage to keep on going. Big thumbs up from me. Harrias talk 19:34, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

@Harrias: Appreciated! The past is in the past :-) Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 21:37, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Celebrities

I noticed your PROD on List of celebrities of Nepal. You may want to do the same on List of celebrities of Bhutan. Bgwhite (talk) 07:36, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

@Bgwhite: Thanks I'll PROD that one as well. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 22:24, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

D. Warner

Your reverts were unsourced, please give a reason next time. TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 08:49, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

@TheAirplaneGuy: What on earth are you on about? The person who added this incorrect information has done so with it unsourced. David Warner is neither a medium-fast bowler of any description, or, with the exception of occasionally playing a switch-hit, where a batsman changes hands, a right-handed batsman. Perhaps you'd like to check the source at the bottom of the infobox? Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 08:52, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Video http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/nathan-lyon-takes-three-wickets-on-day-one-of-australias-tour-match-against-the-england-lions/story-fn2mcu3x-1226698832304 (you probably don't watch Australia play that often). And technically the switch hit is batting right handed. No objections mate? TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 09:03, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Wow clueless @TheAirplaneGuy:. So in a match which holds no official status and is nothing more than a two-day knock about friendly Warner has a laugh and bowls medium-pace. So I'm guessing when Hampshire played Lancashire in 2006 (a match with first-class status) and Shane Warne bowled medium-pace in Lancashire's second-innings, I guess I'll add medium-pace to his infobox, or would you object? Or perhaps you don't watch much county cricket? And as Kevin Pietersen plays the occasional switch-hit, despite playing 99/100 shots as a right-hander, I'll add occasional left-hander? Yep sounding dumb isn't it. Of course, I forget Fox Sports is the authority on cricket info. I wonder what ESPNcricinfo and CricketArchive (the archive being maintained by the Association of Cricket Statisticians) say... oh they both say "left-handed" and "leg break". As quite clearly you are in the right here, perhaps you'd like to head over to WP:CRIC and get a general consensus. If not, then once again I'll go by majority source consensus and revert the BS. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 09:21, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
What about Bullshit, look at the source in the article smartass TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 09:25, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
@TheAirplaneGuy: So what part of a two-day match holding no official status and thus being a knock-about don't you get? The source you have produced is about a said match. Perhaps you'd like to provide sources to show he bowls that in matches rated first-class/List A/Twenty20? Or perhaps I should change Matthew Hoggard's role to opening-batsman as he was due to open the batting in a charity 20-over match in 2005? Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 09:30, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Bloody hell, I can't believe I'm actually in a dispute over a sport I barely watch nowadays, but in the recent tour of South Africa D.A Warner did bowl medium pace (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGC48uAbFV0). I like how that video makes the words above completely unnecessary TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 09:54, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
@TheAirplaneGuy: so Paul Collingwood bowled some overs of off-spin, plus kept wicket for a portion of a Test, so that makes him a medium pace (99.9%) of the time off-spin (0.1% of time) and occasional wicket-keeper... it's stupid, the infobox reflects their dominant style - otherwise I'll have to change Saeed Ajmal's style to "throwing" and Chris Benham's to right-arm off break (29 balls), left-arm medium (1 ball). Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 16:27, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Jeez, he does bowl medium and leg spin. Look at last summer and go to the commentary on cricinfo or whatever. TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 23:12, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Evil rich people who rule the world

I sure do ! The Grim Reaper was in a good mood these days. He kindly reaped some really nasty characters like the racist plastic woman,US puppet dictator number who cares anymore and a personal joy for me, one of my nation's long time crooks. General elections will be held here on sunday. I'm still not sure if I will vote, seeing as it's always the same thing on the menu. There are some new faces, right out of high school, but I would never vote for them. --Killuminator (talk) 21:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

@Killuminator: I must confess to having not seen Joan Rivers for years, but was surprised just how plastic she had become! Perhaps they'll melt her down and recycle her? Well the Grim Reaper hasn't been too busy on these islands unfortunately, we still have the same old slimeballs and criminals wasting our air! Sadly the Reaper hasn't reaped any of the numerous numbers of peadophiles operating in the Palace of Westminster and corridors of power. Breaking news in the UK tonight is how the Labour Party and Liberal Democrats (one hates working people, the other is neither liberal or demcratic) have been covering up child sex abuse. I always vote, where I live in 2012 there was no candidate for who I support, so I wrote my own name on the paper. There's two by-elections here tomorrow, this one hopefully will return the first UKIP MP. We too have the fresh faced candidates, fresh from Oxford or Cambridge, "worked" as party researchers, then elected to a safe seat. No real world experience, probably can't even wipe their own arses (UKIP prohibit this, their candidates have all had real jobs!). Hopefully the Grim Reaper will visit these shores shortly and reap some of the establishment NWO parasites here! Oh and I've stored your list here. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 21:34, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for saving it. I will add some new characters later. I forgot to mention that Ian Paisley and Baphomet's girlfriend died recently. Google her and look at that jewellery :O. Speaking of pedophiles, my brother and I watched a crime show recently. It was about a serial killer in Adelaide, Australia but apparently the story has more to it. Just look at the name, reminds me of Charles Manson. If you look at the details for the last murder, there were probably more kidnappers and killers. Stupid thing is, the victim was a 15 year old who was wearing a dog collar at the time of his kidnapping. That's like screaming rape me, I'm a sadomasochist ! He died a gruesome death, poor guy. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a coverup to protect pedos in high positions. There is never a shortage of those in the Anglo-Saxon world.--Killuminator (talk) 22:19, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
I never really minded Paisley, a bit loud, but neither here or there in terms of good or bad! Coor, that bling makes Snoop Dog seem rather blingless. The Rothchild's are literally everywhere, I've lost count how many there are. Which reminds me, The Tree Shagger has been rather quiet of late... no doubt busy thinking up some new scheme to milk money from the global warming swindle. I recall the crimes of this sick pedophile in Belgium, he was part of a sex ring which involved Belgian police, Belgian politicians, as well it is rumored senior bureaucrats and politicians of the European Parliament. Hence the investigation was secretive and ultimately covered up. These elites get up to some strange things, from child abuse to walking naked in the cedar groves of California. We had some very close friends of the establishment here exposed as nasty sex offenders, the most prominent being Jimmy Savile, who all the establishment thought was a top guy, and Rolf Harris who painted the senile old lizard! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 18:03, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
My apartment is close to the church, and this creep worked there for many years. The church doesn't pay taxes, priests collect expensive cars, and there's this creep. He's the most prominent pedophile in the Serbian Orthodox Church, but not the only one. Tough competition for the Vatican ! --Killuminator (talk) 19:54, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Our pedophile clergy do a very good job of colluding with the elites to keep their deeds a well guarded secret. Archbishop Cormac Murphy-O'Connor even allowed a priest he knew was a pedophile to continue working and abusing, now to me only someone who is involved themselves would do nothing in that position, which is why each time I see that loathsome individual on TV he makes my skin crawl. Perhaps they need a new commandment? How about "Thou Shalt Not Fuck Young Boys"? Just the other Christmas the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams (another loathsome individual who I think is on your list) did his Christmas message telling people not to buy expensive and materialistic gifts, the irony being he recorded this message from Lambeth Palace... a palace! Does their hypocrisy not appear obvious to them? PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 20:08, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
A photo of Nazi Pope Ratzinger on 9gag sums it up nicely: I will pray for the poor and those less fortunate From my golden throne.--Killuminator (talk) 21:29, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Ah yes the Dark Lord of the Sith himself. Another one to preach to the masses "no condoms, more AIDS"! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 21:36, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
And the Nobel Peace Prize goes to future puppet president/prime minister/chief justice of Pakistan. That Indian guy was a surprise though.--Killuminator (talk) 20:55, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator:Well I guess she's a better choice than the Warmonger in Chief. The only thing that hasn't surprised me with the Nobel Committee is that they haven't given Hitler a posthumous Peace Prize for "contributions to the advancement of peace in Europe", which was the EU's rationale in 2012, all the while the Gestapo were beating Greek, Spanish, Portuguese and Italian protesters. Couldn't make this stuff up!!! PS: Clacton by-election, 2014, the anti-establishment party won :-) PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 21:17, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
A sinister name for a police force and a matching sinister logo. I didn't even know such an ominous thing exists O_o. Congratulations to UKIP ! I don't have high expectations for our circus show this sunday seeing as two candidates for the presidency were charged for corruption and served time, one is a former clergyman and secret service agent, a media mogul, a half literate nationalist, one of the current members of the presidency is a candidate, his late father got us into war and then there's a TV personality, former presenter for our national version of 60 Minutes . I really should add them on the list, but in international politics they are such meaningless, obedient puppets.--Killuminator (talk) 21:43, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator: The whole 'European Project' is a sinister creation, I see this police force as nothing more than the start of a thug security force to crush dissent. It is scary what sinister things exist out there which we the people are blissfully unaware of. Well, those two circus show candidates would fit right at home in the European Union , where virtually everyone (except those who oppose it) are corrupt. Perhaps they should sign Bosnia up and jump aboard that corrupt money train with its fake flag, fake anthem and fake nationality? Indeed, the EU Commission had among many corrupt loathsome individuals: Jacques Barrot (convicted of embezzlement), László Kovács (a friend of the Stalinist low life János Kádár). For me the best is Siim Kallas, a former member of the Supreme Soviet and a convicted fraudster - he was in charge of the EU's anti-fraud! There's a few I was considering adding to the list as well, but I thought along the same lines that they're bottom feeders, parasites nibbling on the crumbs. Are there any anti-establishment parties in your neck of the woods? PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 22:17, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Well, there's a new Communist party on the block, and my professor of constitutional law is one of their candidates for a regional assembly. But frankly, I don't think they'll win any seats. Many older people here miss Yugoslavia, life was much better in many ways. Education was free, unions were well organized, we hosted Winter Olympics once, then there's the beautiful Adriatic coast (mostly belongs to Croatia now, and those guys would charge you for oxygen it they could !) where everyone would spend a week or two for summer vacations. Those days are long gone. Now we have massive unemployment, illiteracy, an absurdly complex country , crumbling infrastructure , nepotism and so on. We don't have a Pirate Party but I have some friends who would like to break the ice and make the first one :D. The establishment is well intertwined, they usually negotiate for months, go to fancy EU hotels to have a little chat with Baroness Ashton and people of her ilk. We had massive anti establishment protests in February. It was quite a violent spectacle. 3 regional governments were ousted including the region where I live. And what did we get ? Some technocrats, like Greece with Papademos, but only worse. The new guys are pretty much a continuation of the same old policy of looting the public.--Killuminator (talk) 22:34, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Communism has never done it for me, it's state slavery done as a kindness: some are more equal than others kinda thing. Nah, Libertarianism is more my scene. Our education system here is free, but it's not so much an education system but a propaganda system of the government indoctrinating children... subtly hinting "you will obey, you will obey"! As for our unions they seem to exist to encourage workers to strike, then magically the government introduces more laws to oppress workers. Something tells me the million £ fat cats at the top of unions collude with government there. Just briefly on that subject of "charging for oxygen", here in England we have many old buildings which have their windows bricked up. Would you believe it, but for 156 years from 1696 there was a window tax; is there nothing the loathsome elite won't tax?!?! Your politicians could take a leaf or two out of ours here by papering over the cracks, create a false picture to make everyone think everything is going just right, lure them into that false sense of security and subservience. I think some other Baroness Witch Ashton has moved onto other things, I'm not sure what that parasite is up to now, no doubt it's costing working people money :@ The technocrats seem to be a common thing across Europe, but that troika cartel of the EU/ECB/IMF running Greece are perhaps among the worst most loathsome criminals that walk this earth. All across Europe these criminals come in, take over, impose 'austerity'. This chap in America sums it up! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 23:27, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
2009 was a wacky year.Americans elected a somewhat black president, Rompuy and co. took charge of the EU, Croatia joined NATO etc.This Croatian woman is one of my favourite authors, I love he blog. She's wearing black cuz she's in mourning. Croatia died on the day they joined this evil organization. :D
@Killuminator: Yeah, Obama the first black President (we won't mention his white mother), that'll be sure to get the guilty whites voting for our Bilderberg stooge, anyone who doesn't vote for him we can call a "raceeeeeist"! The UK needs to leave the warmongering military industrial complex and that blueprint for world government. I've heard talk of the Bosnia elite looking at the Mediterranean Union as an alternative, either way, best avoided! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 09:09, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
I completely forgot about our other political entity. Our very own Alex Salmond is slated for reelection and the wicked witch of the North is a candidate for the presidency.--Killuminator (talk) 16:11, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Dodik sounds like a really nice guy... where exactly do these fascists crawl out from? Salmond himself is a tyrant, wanting to create something akin to a police state in Scotland. He's also an agent of the EU. Britain (particularly England and Wales) is very anti-EU, and at some point in the future we will leave it, be it by referendum or uprising. They want to conquer and divide the UK. If England and Wales leave then at least Scotland is still in and they have a presence on this island. Salami tactics if you like. Thankfully that plot failed, even if 44.7% of voters were stupid enough to fall for it. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 16:26, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Dodik is a secessionist, and he really spouts some really hurtful rhetoric sometimes but that's not his biggest flaw. His best friends is the Israeli reincarnation of Göring. He was born in Laktaši , the place is a dump but he somehow managed to build a modern sport arena there while public transport (especially the bus line and railways) in Banja Luka urgently needs investment.--Killuminator (talk) 19:46, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator: We have what I term "ruling party favoritism" too, whereby areas which don't vote for them get forgotten, meanwhile strongholds get millions spent on them. Manchester, a Labour stronghold, had billions spent on it under the war criminal. I'm just laughing having seen a video where a special interest lobbyist of the ruling party says that people who don't vote for them "are being unhelpful". That there is the contempt they hold people in. If that's the case I'll continue to be unhelpful! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 15:57, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
The results will be a sham. It looks like our very own Kim Jong Un is headed for reelection. And voter turnout is pathetic, a measly 30 something % in my Canton (administrative region). What's your opinion on compulsory voting ? Australia, Belgium, Argentina and some other countries have it.--Killuminator (talk) 21:21, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator: That is a pathetic turnout. UK turnout usually hovers around the 60% mark for general elections. However in local elections they're often half that, like in my district this year, where my party won its first two seats on a very corrupt and out-of-touch council. I'm very much torn 50/50 on compulsory voting. I can see the pros and cons of it, but I weigh more toward it being a voluntary thing. I've spoiled a ballot paper before by writing my own name, but I always vote. That was just the same as if I'd sat at home and not voted. The end result must always be "government of the people, by the people, for the people". PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 22:36, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Sadly, this presidency will be the worst yet. It really makes me wanna learn Italian and move there. These guys are the most likely winners : Bakir Izetbegović (son of the guy who got us into war and incumbent member of the presidency),Dragan Čović (long time blood sucker, also a former members of the presidency, people still vote for these creeps ???, and Željka Cvijanović(now we have our very own Iron lady). I'm not sure if Dodik will be reelected though. --Killuminator (talk) 23:01, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
That is the reality unfortunately, that all the time these elites have the monopoly of control they become more and more contemptuous toward the people, resulting in corruption which only ever gets worse and worse. That is the reality facing my country with its two party dictatorship (Cons & Lab). Now there is an alternative to their dictatorship people are awakening and creating the climate for change. It wouldn't want to move to Italy mind, not after Monti made it a slave to Goldman Sachs. Is there any chance of a populist anti-establishment movement being formed in Bosnia? PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 18:16, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Hey !! Hey Hey! I never got a notification for your last reply, but some interesting stuff happened in the past few days. My birthday is October 30 but I usually celebrate it in Belgrade with some friends, and guess who showed up ! Dodik ! I met him near St. Mark's Church. I just found out, he was theree for a meeting of the Trilateral Commission. Spooky stuff, and he's not the only crook in this region who was there today. Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović is a member of the TC (a presidential candidate in Croatia and former minister, elections will be held there soon),Bakir Izetbegović (our recently reelected president for life -.-),Milo Đukanović(oh this guy takes the crown, he's been in power in Montenegro for more than a decade) and more people without a Wikipedia page.This is in Serbian, use Google Translate for what it's worth. To answers your question, the situation in Bosnia is hopeless. The minister of healthcare's aide runs a monopoly on drug stores. In order to form your own private pharmacy, you need approval from the the healthcare minister who in this case happens to be the guy's boss ! But, this government will soon be swept by the new regime once the new parliament is sworn in. The ruling party where I live was practically voted out of existence, and these technocrat incumbents will be a thing of the past.--Killuminator (talk) 23:02, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Well I hope you had a good birthday, I wonder if Belgrade is anything like Brighton for a party?! It's a small world isn't it, we can come across the elites at anytime, like when this war criminal landed in his helicopter at my high schools playing field. Safe to say in a very Conservative part of the country, we certainly gave him some verbal abuse as he was whisked off to his taxpayer funded luxury Jaguar. I wonder if Grabar-Kitarović is the main criminal behind Croatia "joining" the EU? What I love about the Trilateral Commission is, much like the Bilderberg Group, it is a who's-who of the NWO loathsome individuals, there for all to see before they crawl back into their holes. You can take solitude in the fact Britain is like that too! Corrupt! We have wind farms going up everywhere (except where politicians views are ruined). Guess who has major shares in wind farm companies? Most of David Cameron's cabinet, most of Ed Miliband's 'shadow' cabinet and virtually all of Nick Clegg's lot. They use taxpayer money to build them, they're useless inefficient things, but they get massive subsidies because they're "green", making the politicians very rich! Thankfully the ruling party in my constituency just chose a moron to stand at the next election, so I'm confident the anti-establishment candidate will win here. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 17:43, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Green fascism much ? Regarding Croatia joining the EU there are really some greasy characters behind it, some of them go way back when Yugoslavia was still on the map. One of the is Stjepan Mesić, he was a top honcho in the last years before the breakup of Yugoslavia and his famous speech in October 1991 (shortly before the war) goes like this : I believe I've fulfilled my task. Yugoslavia is no more. Goodbye.. He crowned his decade long position as President of Croatia by inviting Bush 41 to Croatia. Moving on, another key player is Ivo Sanader, former prime minister who unexpectedly resigned in 2009 citing health issues. He's famous for his large collection of expensive wristwatches but they were all confiscated because SURPRISE ! he was arrested a few years ago and is now serving jail time. The EU policy was the Holy Grail for the HDZ (the then ruling conservative party, later led by Jadranka Kosor). They were voted out of office in 2011. The new regime is somewhat 50:50, the prime minister is a buffon, the foreign minister is an evil woman, and they had a really sinister but thankfully sacked finance minister. I really must congratulate them on a new corruption fighting policy, they arrested Sanader and many other figures previously thought to be invincible such as the Mayor of Zagreb and Marina Lovrić Merzel - this last one is a real treat ! She's a former prefect of the Sisak-Moslavina County, the poorest county in Croatia. This horse used public funds to organize private parties and her curriculum vitae is very dubious. Just look at her arrogant behavior during this interview. She was arrested several months later, it came as a pleasant surprise. The party in Belgrade was great :). I love big cities especially at night. --Killuminator (talk) 20:38, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator:We're ruled by green fascists in the UK, enriching themselves off of the global warming scam, then telling the rest of us to pay more tax to save the world, all the while they fly in private jets and petrol consuming limos! Stjepan Mesić certainly looks a dodgy character. It is interesting how all these parasite jump from one bureaucracy to another, helping to entrap their country in a nightmare it has just escaped from, like the Estonian Siim Kallas. It must be said that I am mildly surprised those criminals ended up in prison. The most corrupt Prime Minster the UK has ever had is still awaiting a long overdue prosecution. Then of course there was this scandal, of which a few were prosecuted but hundreds more got away with it, citing they "made honest mistakes"... such as claiming for mortgages which didn't exist, because we all suddenly remember that mortgage we don't have, then claim expenses for it. Only the other day their expenses files magically got destroyed from 2010-2014, proving they're as corrupt as ever and overdue an arse kicking!!! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 23:07, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
I was surprised as well. Remetinec is a very famous prison in this region, a worthy succesor to the barren island which housed the parents and grandparents of Remetinec inmates. I only hope they do something about Voldemort, a notorious fascist and minority hater (especially regarding Serbs). She made headlines back in 2013 when she said: "Croatia is for Croats while everyone else is a guest" (It was a widely ridiculed statement). An even more notorious useless politician is Tonino Picula, too useless for words to describe his immense stupidity. Even his name and surname are stupid (nearly every surname in Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia and Montenegro ends in -ić) !!! That Estonian guy is an intriguing figure, send me some more info on him. He reminds of a certain Romanian politician, an ex communist who became democrat over night. Oh, I wanted to ask you something about the UK honours system. I look at these chivalric orders like the Order of the Garter/Thistle/Bath and see a bunch of old elitists in stupid costumes. What did Stjepan Mesić do to deserve a Honorary Knight Grand Cross of the Order of St. Michael and St. George ??? Did you even know about this guy earlier ? What did he do to improve relations between the two nations ? Your Queen must be giving these away like cookies to her obedient Welsh corgi pups (an ugly dog IMHO)--Killuminator (talk) 01:31, 11 November 2014 (UTC) Yo, lebst noch ? --Killuminator (talk) 01:34, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Haha yes, still in the land of the living, missed your last post. The anti-establishment party here in the UK got its second MP, despite the ruling party throwing everything at the by-election. You think you have it bad!!! Most MP's here are lazy, corrupt and totally useless. They never turn up for debates in the House of Commons (although the place was full when they voted themselves a pay rise of 11%). To be honest with you I'd never heard of Mesić before, and a quick look brings nothing up about why he was given the elitist award. Perhaps her dogs are as ugly as the notion of royalty? PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 22:24, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Regarding our opposition , the Socialist Democratic Party has a new leader replacing the former eternal leader, but tragically it's a close confidant of his and the current prime minister of the Federation, so yeah nothing really changes. I hope they have a fun being voted out of existence like your Lib Dems.--Killuminator (talk) 00:08, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Please have a look

Hello AssociateAffiliate, I have noticed that you have nominated several cricketer's pages, who have not played First-class, List A and Twenty20 for deletion. I proposed this page for deletion but the author who created the page removed the notice saying that "has appeared in at least one World Cricket League match of Division Six status or above as a player or umpire". So does that mean it's okay to have pages of cricketers who played in World Cricket League matches, even if they haven't played a single First-class, List A or Twenty20 match? Please check it out and if it should be delete then please nominate it for deletion and if it doesn't meet the requirements to delete, please let me know. Thanks, Ashesh 10:40, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

@Ashesh: That is correct. The inclusion criteria for non first-class/List A/Twenty20 cricketers is they have to have played in either the final of the ICC Trophy prior to 2005, or play in World Cricket League Division Six or higher. Hope this helps. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 17:50, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes it helped, indeed. Thank you very much. Cricshady (talk) 02:10, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

To delete a upload photo

Hello, can I know how to delete a photo from Commons that I have uploaded. Because there are some issues with those photos and I want to know how to remove them from my upload list and also from all Wikipedia and commons articles...If you can say me the way..I really appreciate... Thank You....

@Gihan Jayaweera: I'm not entirely sure about how to delete a picture from Commons as I rarely use it. Perhaps here might be able to help. When a picture is deleted from the commons, you just need to go to where it is located on articles and delete the picture template. Hope this helps. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 17:50, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks AssociateAffiliate for giving me some clues for my problem...Hope to cope with you always...Thanks again...

@Gihan Jayaweera: You're welcome. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 23:07, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

The Return of the Prodigal Son

Your stalker has returned. Littering my talk page aside, he seems to be on a new disruptive crusade against pages you've created. And in other news, Croatia has just elected a new president who happens to be a NATO hawk and Trilateral Commission member, sigh. --Killuminator (talk) 23:36, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

@Killuminator: Oh I've wondered where that stooge had gotten to, clearly he's been busy in the Netherlands, or Wales, or Lancashire or Middle Earth, or wherever he lives out his days! Ouch, not another TC member :-/ Then again, if you're a TC member and not running a country, then clearly something has gone wrong! The stooge here is chickening out of election debates, purely because this man will destroy him and expose his agenda. Meanwhile this man is praying we're still an EU member this time next year, because he's going to lose his seat as an MP and would dearly love to become a corrupt, self-serving, gravy train robbing stooge in the EU commission. Je suis Charlie! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 00:15, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Vedrana Rudan (my favourite blogger and writer from Croatia) wrote only one sentence about the Charlie Hebdo shooting and directed our attention to an older article written in The Telegraph. The sentence is a latin proverb : Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi ; French cartoonist Sine on trial on charges of anti-Semitism over Sarkozy jibe ..--Killuminator (talk) 00:42, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: It's amusing to see the politicians here jumping on a pro-free speech bandwagon. These are the same politicians who despise free speech, labeling opponents "racists", "xenophobes" and "bigots"; short of shooting people, they would be more than happy for free speech to be done away with. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 22:00, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
I almost forgot, 2015 is THE election year in the UK. So, who's gonna be the Lizard Queen's new valet ? How are the Lib Dems holding (a side question, they are an evolution of the Whigs, right ?), will the people vote them out of existence ? And what's the deal with the Green Party ? Is the UK becoming a multi-party system ? And UKIP ? --Killuminator (talk) 01:10, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: The Lib Dems (evolved from the Whigs) are doomed, people have realised they're another NWO scam run by a lowly minion of the NWO, Clegg the stooge is so low down they don't even invite him to Bilderberg or to run naked around the cedar forests of California! They will lost at least 3/4 of their MP's, most of whom are bizarre undemocratic stooges. The green party are another pro-establishment party, which the elites are now trying to promote as the Lib Dem successor, to buffer the Lab/Con establishment from being deposed. The Greens are a joke, run by people who smoke too much pot. They control Brighton council, and since they've run it the town has become a disaster zone! I joke not, but one of their traffic calming policies was to introduce sheep onto Brighton's roads... actual real sheep! UKIP (who I support) will do very well, I'm hoping for 10 MP's and at wouldn't surprise me if they get 30+. That would mean they would hold the balance of power, though we don't do deals with establishment criminals. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 17:43, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Huzzzahhh ! A person most vile has died yesterday. --Killuminator (talk) 16:58, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Another senile stooge bites the dust, I wonder if he gets his houri? He's been replaced by another theocratic senile stooge it seems. Nice to see the Peshmerga handing it to those CIA created ISIS rats around Mosul. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 22:12, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
I've been depressed over the fact that most of my friends are total NATO/EU/USA bootlickers in sense of foreign policy primarily. One of them even claimed Romania has it better since they joined the EU. I really, really, really hate the colonial policies of these decadent governments and I dislike some of the internal legislation they want to impose on the rest of the world ughhhhh. Would you vote for the UK to leave the EU ? Also, I've become somewhat disillusioned with the voting process, because it feels like a waste of time and most people still vote for political dynasties that have ruled this nation for two decades, they always shift the blame on that other party, but it's always the same parties and people in different branches of power. It's like pushing revolving doors. --Killuminator (talk) 01:21, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Romania has been better since they joined the EU? It's still run by corrupt (with the EU gravy train, even more so corrupt) politicians and gangs. Though I think they might be onto something! Since the EU has open borders (because that works, the movement of people is only ever one way!) all the criminals from Romania will move to richer places. London is full of Romanian pickpockets. So we have inherited their criminals! If there were a vote on EU membership tomorrow, I'd be first in line to leave. It's a corrupt, imperialist, autocratic mechanism of the mega banks. Democracy in some respects has become the dictatorship of choice. The elections paint the illusion of democracy and choice, when in effect (using a UK example) a vote for Labour or Conservative is a vote for the same corrupt special interests. This is why UKIP are a great thing for UK politics, they are made of normal people fed up with the two-party system that lords it over us with police state legislation, bankster bail-outs, child abuse, illegal wars and general massive corruption. Watch this space, a revolution is gathering apace here. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 12:46, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
I remember when they admitted Romania and Bulgaria into the EU as well as the 2004 big enlargement. I mean, the reality is let's face it, it was just another showdown between the old colonial powers and Russia. Cyprus ? They still haven't fixed that problem in the north, and Poland ? The Baltics ? Come on it's so obvious. A lot of my fellow nationals study in Vienna and Graz, Austria. Many of them are just there to earn cash, doing jobs educated and fairly wealthy Austrians wouldn't do like cleaning tables in Starbucks, washing windows, taking care of old people etc. The part that I hate is, they act all holier than thou and spend the rest of their time partying in clubs and student dormitories while people who choose to stay and study in Bosnia work their assess off to become teachers, doctors and whatnot and hope they get a job they studied for in this nepotistic oligarchy of a nation. --Killuminator (talk) 20:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

It's back

Hi AA. Hope you're okay. See User talk:Cross Hills1. Hopefully, it will give you a good laugh. I've been saving it for when he reappeared. All the best. Jack | talk page 20:59, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

@BlackJack: I'm well thanks, just been creating a few lists of English county grounds, both first-class and minor county. He's an interesting character is Daft, I don't think I've ever come an individual of that age who acts in such a pathetic manner. I can speculate that Daft lives alone, divorced several times and falls out with nearly everyone who is unfortunate enough to cross his path. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 23:14, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I can see what you mean. Appears to have a personality problem and I think it would be to do with his ego. When he was sacked from that editorial role he had, the then chairman told me it was largely because of the ego trip he was on. I've seen your county grounds list which is coming on well. I'm a bit short of time these days but I'm trying to complete the county club lists up to 2014 before the new season starts. Surrey is a nightmare and I still have Notts and Warwicks to do. Do you have any thoughts about this alleged Australian diary? I think it's a false rumour that has circulated like a chain letter. All the best. Jack | talk page 10:05, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
@BlackJack: Daft is as mentally deranged as they come. I suggest a nurse and warm milk is what he needs. I've not heard anything about an Australian diary! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 12:48, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

List gone haywire

I wanted to add some heavy warmongers from eastern Europe (Baltic states, Ukraine etc.) to our database of vile beings but it seems the whole list changed. I have some errors regarding ages, some cells with lots of words have expanded (United Kingdom, Simeon Saxe Coburg Gotha etc.) What happened, I looks really bad right now. --Killuminator (talk) 22:07, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

@Killuminator: Hey how's things in Bosnia? We're gearing up for an election in the UK, so I'm out and about drumming up support! I haven't looked the list in a couple of months, but yes it does appear to have gone a little mad. I'll attempt to fix it. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 15:39, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
The new prime minister of Tuzla Canton (took them five months to elect one) and his fellowship of opportunistic ministers decided to raise their already high salaries while many companies are facing bankruptcy (some are already bankrupt), workers are still protesting (The February 2014 protests were a RIOT !), these poor people are starving while these rich apparatchiks want even more money for their selfish desires. Religious communities (to my own surprise) and students organized some humanitarian campaigns for these poor workers, some of these cases are like a Charles Dickens story. The Serbian Orthodox church and some other eastern churches celebrated easter today. --Killuminator (talk) 19:48, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: It's a similar story in this country. The greedy elites in Westminster voted themselves an 11% pay rise, yet refused to give nursing staff a 1% pay rise. At the same time the number of people reliant on food banks in the UK has risen from 10,000 per week to 955,000 in the space of five years. The only party that talks any sense, UKIP, gets slurred by the elites and their media friends everyday. The slimeball establishment here is scared that UKIP will trash their cosy lifestyles and send them packing. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 21:38, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Looks like the US is gearing up for the 2016 presidential election. Hilldog announced her campaign. Aristocracy at it's finest. --Killuminator (talk) 17:24, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Ergh isn't it just. The American Revolution fought against the landed aristocracy and now the lords are back. I wonder is Hillary will wander naked around the cedar forests of California before too long? Shudder the thought. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 19:57, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Another royal mouth to feed, I know she's just a baby, but some of these media powerhouses are already writing how her life will be better than the petty lives of the rabble. How is the situation with the looming election ? --Killuminator (talk) 22:36, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Urgh I know. Another so called royal, not sure what exactly makes them royal (besides conquest and years of inbreeding). The UK establishment media is treating UKIP with contempt, but expect it to spring a few surprises on Thursday. People fed up with the same old politics, UKIP offer change. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 22:29, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
My condolences, I dread to think what the upgraded old regime will do now. War in Syria ? Gouging the population even more ? Scary. --Killuminator (talk) 21:42, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Not to worry, we came second in many places and are now the third biggest party in terms of votes. Unfortunately the first-past-the-post system is as corrupt as the Conservative and Labour parties, it's a system from a time of two party politics and is designed to maintain the two party dictatorship. I dread to think where we are headed now. Cameron has promised an EU referendum by 2017, but has promised this twice before. He doubled the national debt in 5 years, so will probably do that again. At least 4 million people stood up and said enough is enough. It's a platform. Hope all is well in Bosnia. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 22:27, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
A bad time for elections everywhere, the worst of the worst still draw breath, even the withered mummy called the Conservative party. Same thing happened here, and in Japan, and Mexico, and Paraguay, pretty much everywhere. Greek voters gave me some hope, but Merkel the Ferkel is the true Kingpin anyway. --Killuminator (talk) 22:42, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Of course, Merkel is the lead puppet of Goldman Sachs. The two stooge parties in the UK, Conservatives and Labour, took a major dent, despite what the media would let people believe in this country. UKIP took 4 million votes, a fourfold increase. Such is the pathetic state of democracy here, that yielded UKIP one seat in parliament. The DUP in Northern Ireland received 184,000 votes and got 8 seats... some representative democracy. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 20:44, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
A quick thought to share. Out of the current candidates for the US president my brother and I find Bernie Sanders OK, so we wanted to find out who endorses him. Obscure people and obscure organizations. Meanwhile, Hilldog has all the wealthy famous people backing her (Beyonce, George Clooney, Barbra Streisand etc.) Rich supporting the rich, haves and have mores -.- . --Killuminator (talk) 13:36, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: I've always supported Ron Paul and now Rand. The rest are NWO stooges; however the thought of Hilldog parading around the Bohemian Grove naked is quite revolting! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 18:24, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Former president of Georgia and tie eating, tinpot lunatic Saakashvili is the new governor of Odessa Oblast (region), Ukraine. I laughed. I can imagine something similar with Tony Blair as a governor of some Iraqi province. --Killuminator (talk) 00:20, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: How? He's not even Ukrainian!!! Then again these globalists have no loyalty to a state or a flag, or even their own people for that matter, their sole loyalty is to themselves. Despicable NWO stooges. Where do these outsiders come from? The constituency I live in had a guy from York 'elected'. York is in the far north of England and I'm down on the south coast, so what connection has he to this area? None. Cameron has simply given him a safe seat because of these shadowy individuals. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 11:23, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Ugh, sick of the free world leaders. It looks like a tsunami of conservative leaders is sweeping the globe, I can't find many leftists or liberals in power. It looks like a prelude to World War III. Lithuania reintroduces conscription, of course the fat spinster president they call the Iron Lady for some reason won't fight in an eventual war with Russia. Canadian politicians ugh, Harper made some statements that amount to a call for regime change in Russia. Fascism of some sort is taking roots in Croatia, Poland , Baltic states, Ukraine (that place takes the crown). How is the UK holding up ? I read in The Independent that the Tory regime will privatize Royal Mail. Turkey is becoming a sultanate...overall a really bad time. Read somewhere that French people want a Sarkozy VS Hollande runoff again, what a joke, paper or plastic. Any good news in the UK ? --Killuminator (talk) 22:45, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Left, right, liberal... all a facade in my opinion as they virtually all work for the same special interests. Fascism has already taken root across Europe, with their poking of the Russian Bear just part of a wider design for global dominance. The main topic in the UK at the moment is the EU Referendum, which I fear Cameron will hijack and fix in favour of staying in the corporatist scam aka EU. Erdogan is an Islamofascist, indeed he puts the corruption and madness of EU apparatchiks to shame! How is Bosnia? PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 18:53, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
The Pope came for a visit to the capital last week, some influx of tourists on that day, but the money will sadly end in the hands of well established criminals. He did drop a truth bomb about Međugorje, something along these lines The only people who believe in the miracles of Međugorje are those who reap profit from it . Personally, I think the whole apparition of Mary or whatever is a huge hoax, the whole story makes me cringe. --Killuminator (talk) 21:12, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: I've always considered organised religion to be a method to herd and control the people, and ultimately a get rich scam. God is all powerful but always needs money!! Just recently this drunk NWO stooge has died, and I see today the capo di tutti capi has reached 100. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 22:01, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
That makes him the oldest dinosaur on our list. I added some new inductees including the Steel Magnolia, Jesus Christ who comes up with these flattering sobriquets ? Do they have a personal PR team to satisfy their own vain image ? I had no idea who this merry flop was until just a day ago, looked like a drunkard IMHO. Add some Britons when you have time, surely some ministers are as deplorable as Osborne. It looks like I omitted Hammond from the list. His predecessor was described as a waste of spunk on some video about him giving a speech before The Iron Witch, Margaret Thatcher. It gave me inspiration to localize the term in Bosnian, izdrkotina. A perfect translation in both ways. --Killuminator (talk) 01:54, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: Oh yes the Steel Magnolia looks decidedly slimey. Another recycled Soviet-era communist masquerading as a 'conservative'; much in the same way matter can masquerade as anti-matter. Cameron had a moronic sobriquet... "Call me Dave"... I kid you not. Charles Kennedy was very much a drunkard, the former leader of the Liberal Democrats who advocate a federal (and thus anything but liberal or democratic) Europe. I'll add some more names in due course, I think most the alive Britain's are covered in there. A century of sucking the soul of the world... Old Man Rockefeller has to be the basis for Palpatine?! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 18:45, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply, I was so busy these past weeks and still have a mediocre task to prepare but as things stand, I'm procrastinating. I always thought that The Penguin from Batman was a spitting image of David Rockefeller. He made his comic debut when David was like in his twenties or something ? Regarding slimy political slogans, Obama's Change comes to mind. Our own very own Tories (The SDA party) used slogans like The People know the right choice and In unity lies strength . They don't even bother to go out with an election program or attend TV debates since they have reliable legions of dupes and sheep voters. And regarding Dave, I will never forget that hilarious picture of him talking on the phone with a worried expression. P.S. Found a new sobriquet for Jean Claude Juncker - represantative of the Luxembourgeoisie.--Killuminator (talk) 18:58, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

More tantrums

Hello AA. The baby is spitting its dummy and chucking Wisdens out of its pram again. You'd better keep an eye on your watchlist. Last time he was here he announced that he has legal qualifications. I wonder what his learned colleagues would say if he behaved like that in court just because someone disagreed with him? It's the usual tale: he can't get what he wants so he resorts to playground tantrums, telling lies and hurling infantile taunts. Pathetic. And so sad.

See his usual SPI and also a new one called Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Johnxleach which was opened by Joseph, who hasn't encountered the moron previously.

Anyway, hope you are well. Jack | talk page 06:49, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

@BlackJack: The perennial jackass returns then! Just when I thought he had decided to find pastures new. He has been rather quiet this year, appearing just the once I think. Perhaps there's not much to do in Lytham St Annes or Belgium these days? All is well here, managed to get some much needed pictures of Dean Park :) Hope all is well with you. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 22:20, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm fine, thanks. Like you, I'm not finding much time for WP these days. Only done one new article in the last couple of months so it's just watchlist stuff in the main. What do reckon to Hampshire's chances this season? I'm hopeful Yorkshire can take the title agin but it seems to depend on two things: keeping Gillespie and getting our players out of the England team (three picked for next Test). Jack | talk page 08:44, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
@BlackJack: Yes I'm not finding much time these days, will in the next month or so find some time to do some obscure first-class cricketers. Hampshire don't stand a chance in Div 1 this season. We lack the bowlers to support Tomlinson. Releasing Coles was an error, Fidel Edwards will struggle (think he went at over 5 an over against Yorks) and is a poor signing, the pitches don't really suit Danny Briggs. Batting wise we're a little weak, not sure why Vince can't push on, the guy is a huge talent. Wheater isn't all he's made out to be, sad they got rid of Bates who is a far superior keeper. My money is on Durham for the title, Collingwood is a great leader. As for England I'm refusing to watch them for the foreseeable future. Their treatment of KP is a disgrace and has made us a laughing stock. For Cook to threaten the ECB with a 'him or me' ultimatum confirms the way I've always viewed him. He's a terrible captain and doesn't do much with the bat, they should have taken him up on the threat and got rid of him there and then! One day we'll have Vaughan as director and a certain Mr. Warne as coach! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 11:27, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Lists of county grounds

Thanks for kicking off all the lists of country grounds. I've done a bunch of work on List of Warwickshire County Cricket Club grounds and intend to put it up at WP:FLC, where I will list you as a con-nom. Assuming it's successful, the others can then be worked up and put up for FLC too.

All the best, ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:05, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

@ChrisTheDude: Thanks! The Warwickshire list is looking good :-) Those lists were a bit of a nightmare to start, especially the Kent, Staffordshire and Yorkshire lists which seemed to go on and on!! Keep up the good work, and thanks for the co-nom. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 10:03, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

sorry

sorry AssociateAffiliate i pressed the wrong button in the AFD --Fazbear7891 (talk) 20:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

@Fazbear7891: No worries, thought that was the case! :-) All the best, PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 20:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Amit Gupta article

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Hi !

Hey there. How are things ? A lot of stuff has happened in the world, namely the phony war against ISIS. --Killuminator (talk) 03:38, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

@Killuminator:, I'm well thanks. Not particularly active on here these days as I'm backpacking alot, just been to Vietnam and Cambodia. Yes, I see their phony war against their invention still rages. I'm rooting for the Kurds, they deserve a homeland but I fear they will be used as pawns and sold out to Sultan Erdogan. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 10:28, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Nice, I'd like to travel more. I'm thinking of visiting Athens in spring. Did you visited the Ha Long Bay and Angkor Wat ? Those places look amazing. --Killuminator (talk) 13:04, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: I visited both of those places and they are absolutely amazing places. Angkor Wat is incredible and Ha Long Bay is stunningly beautiful. Weirdly, the Vietnamese love America! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 15:35, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
If you ever decide to visit Tuzla, Bosnia and Herzegovina, let me know. It's closer and should be cheap, my friend toured the town with some Irish tourists last year. --Killuminator (talk) 17:11, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator:, I think I'm going to be in Australia for some time! I'd imagine those Irish tourists drank Tuzla dry?! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 19:36, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
They did drink a lot of beer XD. --Killuminator (talk) 22:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
What's your and the general stance in the UK on the SyriaVote ? --Killuminator (talk) 23:42, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
@Killuminator: I'm for the most part a non-interventionist. I don't even want the UK to be in NATO!!! But, putting aside my theory that certain Arab states and western intelligence created ISIS, I think ISIS are like Nazi Germany and you cannot negotiate with them. So my views are somewhat mixed. I just hope the Kurds don't get shat on! PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 10:28, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
I find myself supporting some kind of action but I doubt that any grand coalition will come to fruition. Your fig pucker prime minister is doing the same thing the Russians have been doing for a while but I can't see any alliance between the two nations. The porcine Tory is just damn too hypocritical. China is the only UN Big Five nation that hasn't joined the choir. Daesh is just too repulsive too be allowed to exist. Someone called this a holy crusade. It might as well be, since the foat guckers (pigs are haram) of ISIL are an affront to civilization values. Doing nothing is just kinda like Neville Chamberlain in the thirties. Oh well. I see the UKIP MP voted in favor of the action. --Killuminator (talk) 17:58, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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FYI

I see you're semi-retired from Wiki, but in case it interests you, I'm working towards getting List of Sussex County Cricket Club grounds towards a FL. Notifying you since you created the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:05, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

FYI 2

Hi AA. Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Brexit

Oh boy ! You guys sure did it. Did you cast your vote ? How's the whining of the defeated side ? You'd think it's doomsday for Britain. --Killuminator (talk) 19:09, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

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Welcome back

How are you doing and how did it all go?   Jack | talk page 16:18, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

@BlackJack: It went really well thanks. Australia was spectacular in places, mostly average though, especially living Bondi! New Zealand was much more spectacular. How were things here? Has our mutual friend been much of a nuisance? PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 17:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm glad you enjoyed it, AA. I've never been down under myself but other peole have said same as you that NZ is the better country to visit. I'll have to go there sometime. I'm okay, thanks, especially as I retired   last January after thirty-odd years in IT (and here I am still using a computer!). I was away from the site for a long time last year in the spring and summer but have become involved again in the last couple of months. With more time on hand, it's surprising how much more there is to do! I saw a few games last summer and went to Lord's twice. I'd only ever been there three times previously (all for MCC or Middlesex games) and this year I went to a Lord's Test for the first time (Sri Lanka). Unfortunately, I was also there in September for the title decider but, fair's fair, Middlesex deserved it.
Main thing in CRIC of late has been a campaign by four or five of us against NOTSTATS lists and I think about thirty have been deleted. You'll see all that if you look at recent WT:CRIC threads. I'm not having any problems on here now and a certain IP user has in fact been very helpful since I returned. One thing I learned from him is that CA has become notorious for trojans, almost certainly because of the ludicrous advertising and links to dodgy sites that it carries, so everyone here has been advised to implement adblocks before using it. At first, we couldn't locate the Chrome adblock routine but one of the Indian guys found a way through it. You'd be best to make sure you have adblocks in place too.
Anyway, welcome back, and I'm sure you'll find plenty to do in the never-ending project   Jack | talk page 11:41, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
@BlackJack: I'd certainly check out New Zealand. It's a beautiful country and some of the great walks are out of this world. I managed to get a BBL match in at the SCG, and was hoping to catch the Ireland vs PNG series in Townsville, but didn't quite get there! I think I'm going to shift my attention to the Irish inter-pros now they have first-class status. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 13:38, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Barrie Bennetts

Thanks for your contributions. If you want to add more, I have now finished editing for the evening. :>) Jowaninpensans (talk) 23:11, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

@Jowaninpensans: Thanks! I'm not sure there's too much more to add about his cricket, which is quite vague. I've been waiting for someone with some rugby knowledge to create him! This source claims he was a solicitor in Penzance. All the best. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 23:29, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of List of Hampshire County Cricket Club first-class players (1919–1939)

 

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"Seems like it SHOULD be here"

They get worse. Could you take a look at Martin now and see if you think it's okay. I've added inline citations and found his matches in Haygarth so that he passes the ****ing GNG which is one of those "woeful and woolly" isms you might expect Tory May to come out with. No doubt some twat will still come along, though, and say it doesn't comply with an FAQ somewhere.

Anyway, my old mate, I hope you are okay. I'm sure Bobo will be glad to see you here too. I'm actually taking a break because I'm totally pissed off but I was making sure my watchlist was complete and Martin cropped up. All the best. Jack | talk page 07:43, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Cheers Jack. Good to see you AA mate. I too see no point in the upkeep of a project if it's being gradually destroyed from the outside. If people wish to do that, to the detriment of the encyclopedia, they can have their inconsistent, silly rules all to themselves. We've been working to the same guidelines for 13 years and they've never done us harm until now... frankly I see no reason why all of the dedicated members of WP:CRIC shouldn't simply take an indefinite break as our project is being destroyed. Let people make up their own rules and see where it gets them. Bobo. 08:08, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
@Bobo192: :@BlackJack: see the project talk page for my tuppence. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 22:21, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

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Peter Barrett (cricketer)

Hi AssociateAffiliate, does any source say specifically that Barrett was killed in a car crash (Wisden obit that is linked to says only that it was a road accident) ? The obit in Cricketer magazine says that it was a moped accident, so it seems that, at best, he may have crashed into a car. Tintin 11:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

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What are the sources for Ralph Prouton's death? If you want to add the date of death to his page you need reliable sources. You could inform newspapers or websites, but no social network or blog reports will be accepted. Thanks, --Folengo (talk) 09:36, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Wow, who'd guess... PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 10:07, 16 September 2018 (UTC)


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WikiBureaucracy... I don't really care, if this Wiki now prides itself on being lazy bureaucracy (click on the article, it has more than enough proof considering he's the world's oldest living cricketer). But nah, you're right, he was born on 82nd Jancember, 2673. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 19:19, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

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Interesting userpage

Hi, you have a very interesting user-page but I Am wondering why Geoffrey Boycott, David Gower, Ian Botham and Graham Gooch are missing from your favorite list.. I always thought they are much loved and adored there and everybody's favourite... --Adamstraw99 (talk) 23:38, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

@Adamstraw99: Hi, thanks, glad you find my userpage interesting! They're greats for sure, but I grew up watching Warne (and I'm a biased leggie). I love the pace and aggression that Marshall bowled with, and I vaugely remember watching his last few games for Hampshire in 1993 (even at 3 years old I was cricket obsessed!). And with Bradman, he's just sheer perfection! Boycott, Gower, Gooch, and Botham are great players. If I had to expand my favourites to a top-ten they'd be: Warne, Bradman, Marshall, Phil Mead, Botham, Sydney Barnes, Allan Border, Bert Sutcliffe, Bernard Bosanquet, and Kevin Pietersen/Rahul Dravid. StickyWicket (talk) 16:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

James Jones (cricketer, born 1870)

  1. No need for such a rude comment in your knee-jerk revert
  2. Q1/Q3 are not dates. Dates need to be years to be properly parsed by third party templates and for MOS:ACCESS
  3. You are inserting a location to {{{heightft}}}. I'm not sure how Uxbridge, Middlesex, England has anything to do with the height by you are breaking the convert template.

Next time instead of just knee-jerk reverting look at the actual changes. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:09, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Oh and 4th, the source on the page [1] shows that the player was born in 1878, not 1880. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Another editor on a power trip. StickyWicket (talk) 21:31, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
??? You're inserting wrong information... That isn't a powertrip but ok. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:38, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Oh absolutely. 1). Paywalls just require the well timed use of the escape key, if you aren't in the mood for paying. 2). An editor with thousands of edits on cricket, might know what he's looking at. 3). Yep, place of death went in the height as didn't realise this was an old template missing place of death. 4). It's a template, I'm sure you can take a chill pill, it's not real you know. 5). You proved my point entirely. 6). At WP:CRIC we always have to deal with power tripped mouse click happy clowns, "rudeness" or sarcasm as I prefer, has been the best way to deal with them. 7). If I reverted every edit to cricket artciles without double checking, then I know of at least a dozen cricketers on here who would be missing key info if I didn't verify before reverting. 8). I'd have to be the most lame vandal going to randomly find an obsure 20th century cricketer and insert random DOD dates. 9). Template is broken? Fix it. I do plenty of times. 10). As another CRIC editor puts it so brilliantly, "ruleswankery for the sake of ruleswankery is plain wankery". StickyWicket (talk) 22:03, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

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Cricket categories

Where is the consensus for that? They were Scottish, they played cricket - they should be in the 'Scottish cricketers' category. GiantSnowman 18:12, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman:Phil Neville played Second XI cricket for Lancashire, a much higher level than those played by the two Scottish players, but he isn't categorised as an English cricketer. You can raise it on WP:CRIC, but it has for many years been the done thing. And simply playing club cricket (as Rowan did) is a weak criteria for inclusion in that category. Hugh Grant used to play darts for my local pub, but he doesn't have Category:English darts players! Cricket is very picky and selective over match status, which is what WP:CRIC mirrors. I'd assume Rowan is the 'A Rowan' on CricketArchive, which just states just the teams he played for - so they consider him fairly inconspictious in his cricketing endeavours - I have more details under my CA entry!!! StickyWicket (talk) 18:41, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Respectfully, that doesn't answer my question. GiantSnowman 20:35, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

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@Kuyabribri: Oops missed that! I'll AfD. StickyWicket (talk) 16:17, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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Contested PRODs

Hi. I've just sent John Bryant (cricketer), John Cutbush (cricketer) and Thomas Chambers (English cricketer), all of which were contested PRODs you originally placed, to AfD. My inclination is to simply redirect John Bell (Kent cricketer) and Edmund Chapman to List of early English cricketers to 1786 - this has been done occasionally in the past with similar articles. There's scope for the (minimal) biographical information on both of them to be added in the tables there if necessary. Let me know if you want to send them to AfD instead. Looking at List of early English cricketers to 1786, there seem a bunch of entries there which seem to be more "people who we know played a game of cricket" rather than "cricketers" - I'm thinking, for example, of the entries for 1622 and so on - in fact, many of the entries in the first table seem dubious to include as cricketers to me. What do you think? Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:34, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Blue Square Thing:. I think redirects are fine with those :) There's been some really quite strange ones, even ones who as far as we know never played cricket, like John Derrick who mentioned it in 1597 - he was down as a Surrey cricketer! Many seem to have been patrons, others I have no ideawhy they were ever created. John Blogs who played cricket in one match in 1733 and "must have been good". Oh and not forgetting the sneaky first-class inclusion in pre-1772 matches. It's only taken 10+ years to find them all!!! I don't know why the PRODs were removed, no reason was given apart from "per DEPROD"... helpful! StickyWicket (talk) 14:44, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
You've reminded me about Derrick. I had that on my mental list to send to deletion - what do you think, PROD or AfD? Blue Square Thing (talk) 17:59, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
I was going to be inclined to keep, but the Guildford Grammar School article has a section that is nearly word-for-word the same. PROD? Hopefully it doesn't get deprodded! StickyWicket (talk) 19:10, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm almost inclined to simply merge to the school. It's also mentioned at Guildford (I think I cut some detail from there), History of cricket, Run (cricket) and Cricket. Could PROD and then merge if necessary I suppose - there's certainly a ONEEVENT case that can be made Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:16, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm going to be bold and redirect him to the grammar school article. I'm going to work my way through the Category:Hambledon cricketers category, there's loads of dodgy ones in that. StickyWicket (talk) 19:20, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Or maybe not as many dodgy ones as I'd imagined! StickyWicket (talk) 19:24, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Hambledown was a bit later wasn't it? So they tend to fall over into 1772 most of the time? Thanks for redirecting Derrick - I think it's utterly reasonable given that the content is so similar. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
It was around the 1770s. Hampshire v All England in 1772 is recognised as the first first-class match, organised by the Hambledon Club which was founded in 1764 I think. Hopefully getting rid of these players will keep the deletionists off our backs for a while on our minor first-class players! StickyWicket (talk) 21:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Given that I tend to be more deletionist than you, the fact that there are a bunch of articles we can agree on doing something about probably shows that they are ones that need to be dealt with. I'll go back to that list and take a look at ones we could be removing as well - better put a note on the talk page first though... Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:23, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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List of cricket grounds in England and Wales

Bearing in mind that the article's introduction says "The venues in this list have all been used for important matches before the foundation of the current first-class county or university clubs", I'm wondering what criteria you've used for deciding with grounds should be omitted and which retained. Of course the status of early matches, especially before about 1800, is very much a grey area, and no two cricket historians seem to agree. JH (talk page) 10:02, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Jhall1: I didn't read the introduction (oops!) but that was added by the same user who was adding these grounds, which are sourced largely from ther own work so it was full of OR. I wouldn't say the grounds listed were that historically significant, I mean some of them linked simply to a neighbourhood in a city, while others such as Bury Hill, Arundel simply say team x played team y and doesn't explain the significance of the ground (I'll get round to PRODing/AfDing some soon). Others make claims about first-class matches being played there in the 1740s! The current guidelines for first-class cricket to have been played at grounds seems sensible, and fortunate as many of the historically significant grounds carried over into the 1770s and have held first-class cricket, like The Vine, or the Artillery Ground (where I wish Middlesex would play every now and then!). StickyWicket (talk) 13:24, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. That seems fair enough. It's just that I'm always a little nervous when I see information being removed. Hopefully you'll alter the introduction to explain what the criteria for inclusion now are, along the lines of what you've written above. JH (talk page) 20:33, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

List of Royal Air Force first-class cricketers

Can you check what the spade and the bold mean in the key for the table please!? I'm not sure for either - I've picked up a couple of other oddities, but you're more likely to remember than I am to be able to work it out. Ta. Blue Square Thing (talk) 14:47, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Blue Square Thing: sure I'll take a look! To be honest I'd forgotten all about that list, looks like I left it as a draft to come back to! :D StickyWicket (talk) 15:15, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

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Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

A pie for you!

  Good work on the DYK for Guy Dury DBigXray 20:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

@DBigXray: thank you :) StickyWicket (talk) 23:50, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Bill Leggatt

I know you're interested in military cricketers. I finally got around to working up Bill Leggatt. You and others who work on these things might have some more that can be added. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:40, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

@Blue Square Thing: thanks for the heads up! The military guys are a little side project I've got on the go. Leggatt looks like an interesting guy, I'll see what more I can dig up on him, but looks like you've done a thorough job! Good thing you did him, he seems to have escaped my British Army redlinks list! There's about 140 military cricketers to do, feel free to chip away at some! StickyWicket (talk) 20:24, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
We had an article, but it was a very brief one that didn't mention the war at all. It's details of postings, promotions etc.. that could be useful to find. Blue Square Thing (talk) 21:04, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Ah I thought he was a newbie! I find it useful, there's so many guys out there, who say played one first-class match, yet have great and interesting lives that otherwise wouldn't have been fully covered. Jack Gannon, Lionel Bostock, Guy Dury and Milo Talbot come to mind! StickyWicket (talk) 23:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lionel Bostock

 On 21 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lionel Bostock, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after being captured and imprisoned by British Major Lionel Bostock, the Nuer prophet Garluark was restored to his former position as ruler of a region of Anglo-Egyptian Sudan? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lionel Bostock. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lionel Bostock), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Garluark

 On 21 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Garluark, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after being captured and imprisoned by British Major Lionel Bostock, the Nuer prophet Garluark was restored to his former position as ruler of a region of Anglo-Egyptian Sudan? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Garluark), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Magill

 On 22 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Michael Magill, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that British Army officer Michael Magill was killed alongside his brigade commander after treading on a land mine during a training exercise in Yorkshire? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Magill. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Michael Magill), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Discoverability of new articles

Hi, I'm writing to you as you are a very prolific aricle creator. I was wondering if you'd be interested in making your articles better discoverable by readers by adding entries for them to dab pages where relevant. For example, if the article is titled John Fooba (cricketer), then a link to that article could be added to John Fooba, if this is a dab page. – Uanfala (talk) 22:40, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Edward Henslow

 On 1 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Edward Henslow, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a cardiovascular fitness suite at the Army School of Physical Training is named after Edward Henslow? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edward Henslow. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Edward Henslow), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lionel Collins

 On 3 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lionel Collins, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that cricketer Lionel Collins scored six centuries in ten days in a feat described as "quite without parallel in the history of the game"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lionel Collins. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lionel Collins), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Amakuru (talk · contribs) 00:01, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Ways to improve Lancelot Grove

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Ways to improve Arthur Stanley-Clarke

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@Boleyn: I've been editing here for nearly 10 years and have created thousands of articles on cricketers, so I don't really need messages telling me ways to improve articles. Thanks. StickyWicket (talk) 21:48, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
AssociateAffiliate, if you create an unreferenced article, that is flagged up on the list of new pages in red. A patroller may then send a friendly message (as above) or someone being over-zealous may look at whether it should be tagged for deletion (it clearly shouldn't be deleted). If getting messages is an issue for you, then you can easily avoid this by creating the article in your sandbox or draftspace, as I'm sure you know. Putting uneferenced articles in the mainspace is not a great idea. Thanks for your hard work creating these articles, Boleyn (talk) 06:59, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Thomas Pearce (cricketer, born 1847) moved to draftspace

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Wow, that a bleedin' waste of time that was. You wouldn't think I'd been editing here for 10 years, thanks for imparting such wonderous knowledge, I had no idea how to write an article. The Duke of Nonsense, indeed. StickyWicket (talk) 09:40, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Old Wykehamists

Hi, the style we're using in the article is that if someone was an army officer we call them a "soldier", if they played test or county cricket we call them a "cricketer", etc. Hope this is all right with you. The only real exception is if they make it to Field Marshal (say) we mention that. I suspect none of us would want to say "acting major" or whatever for "notable" people who reached lesser ranks. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:03, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap:. Thanks, I'll bear that in mind for the Winchester list as I suspect my never-ending list of cricketers to do has at least 50 Old Wykehamists on it! All the best, StickyWicket (talk) 13:09, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Anthony Lawrence

I moved the link to Anthony Lawrence from Mayfair to Green Street, Mayfair. The article itself is not exactly in great shape, being a brief sentence saying where it runs from and to, and a list of "x lived here. Oh, so did y. And z. Gosh, a, b and c lived here too", but with a bit of spit and polish, we can fix that (particularly if Edwardx or Philafrenzy fancies expanding it 5 times for a DYK). Seems a more obvious target, particularly since the parent article only mentions residents when sources document them as living in or (more likely) owning multiple streets and properties in the area. It's a bit like having List of notable people in Westminster, which could get ridiculously large. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:04, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: thanks, I did wonder why Mayfair didn't have a notable people section, makes perfect sense now! StickyWicket (talk) 17:26, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
The trouble with "Notable residents" or "Notable users" sections that, unless you've got somebody watching them like a hawk, they tend to accumulate cruft and degrade over time, often ending up including some rapper you've never heard of who happened to live in his grandmother's basement in the area for 3 years in his late teens - without a source. Or something like that. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:29, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: I've removed some abosolute comical "notable people" entries over the years, so know where you're coming from! StickyWicket (talk) 21:30, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

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Job descriptions

Hi, I've had to trim the same sort of thing a few times now, so I'd better just mention it here: "first-class cricketer" is best as a simple "cricketer" in non-cricket articles like lists of old boys. We just say "politician", "soldier" ... for the same reason, a plain and simple description. Many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:03, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

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