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Follow-up to Seemingly non-notable minor locations in bulk on Wikipedia

Bump for this. I'd like an answer and haven't gotten one. --9563rj (talk) 01:17, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

You asked this on Oct 1 and got three replies. Looks like it boils down to "Because." or in more detail, Wikipedia policy: "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low." David notMD (talk) 03:13, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Actually, even if they no longer have any population at all, because notability is not temporary, so that covers ghost towns, archaeological sites, and any other "places" that no longer exist. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Oof. I misunderstood the archival message. Sorry. --9563rj (talk) 05:34, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Follow-up to sir i want to write articale on website

Exciting (website) a regular news website. In parallel, we have published political, intelligence, military, intelligence and technologies. This is the website of Durga Prasad Naidu The newspaper publishes weekly news in India. external link

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Durgaprasad107 (talk • contribs) 06:39, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello again Durgaprasad107 and welcome back to the Teahouse.

I'm afraid your efforts to publicise your website here on Wikipedia are becoming rather frustrating. It appears you may have a connection with the website and that your account name violates our policies.

Writing an article about a subject with which you have a conflict of interest is discouraged. It's also quite difficult, especially when you have not taken the time to learn how Wikipedia works. Once your website becomes that subject of independent in-depth coverage, it may be possible to write an article about it. At this point it is not. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:23, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Talk Page Archives

Have I set up my talk page Archive properly? Settings : All threads older than 3 days RhinosF1 (talk) 19:04, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi RhinosF1, welcome to the Teahouse. Why on earth would you wish to archive your talk page messages older than 3 days? This is only necessary for incredibly busy pages like our own Teahouse. I tend to be quite suspicious of editors who like to clear away all talk page discussions so speedily. Whilst my worries might not be justified, I do suspect I am not alone in that. There is, however, no rule that says you can't do this, but for a new editor unlikely to find themselves having huge numbers of talk page messages, I would earnestly suggest that leaving messages there for two or three months at least is quite sensible. It means you (and other editors) only have one place to look for past communications. Only if your page exceeds 50k in size does the archive function really need to kick in, in my view. (I won't comment on the fine details of your settings, as I don't consider myself vastly experienced with the details of archive settings. I'm sure others will do that. Regarde, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:04, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I just don't want clutter on there especially with FRS I've asked at IRC and it's being checked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RhinosF1 (talk • contribs) 20:10, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, about forgetting to sign it RhinosF1 (talk) 20:15, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Be aware that this will disrupt conversations, as plenty of Wikipedians who edit regularly check in less often than every three days. /Julle (talk) 20:35, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

I have it on my watchlist so I get emails which I check regularly as I receive digests via it daily.RhinosF1 (talk) 20:40, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

I'll change it if it becomes a problem but I don't imagine it being one.RhinosF1 (talk) 20:42, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm not talking about this being a problem for you, I'm talking about this being a problem for those who try to communicate with you but find the conversation archived between the last time they wrote and the next time they log in. /Julle (talk) 23:18, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

As I said, i’ll change it if it becomes an issue. RhinosF1 (talk) 08:04, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Occasional edits

As a very frequent user of Wikipedia I am frustrated by the lack of a very quick way to post an edit or to ask how to do something. Each time I dip into the extremely vast and complicated field of contributing to Wikipedia, I am intimidated into simply moving on and leaving edits to experts more versed in the multifarious minutiae of rules and regulations. This has resulted in my making only very superficial edits of typos and such because I simply cannot devote all that time to familiarizing myself with the fine details of how to edit. My current problem is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spectator states "It was first published on 6 July 1828.[2]" However, under History, it states: "... launched the paper on 5 December 1828." Obviously an error there, but how/where do I post a note about this?

Simply finding this page to ask my question took a huge amount of digging and a long time to achieve.

I am keen to contribute to Wikipedia, but the investment of time required to do this efficiently -- and without breaking all those rules! -- this has me affrighted and encouraged to move on.

To post this question, the only way I can see is to click "Publish changes" below -- but I am not changing anything! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loge Reborn (talk • contribs) 13:52, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

ps. Loge Reborn (talk) 14:05, 6 October 2018 (UTC) Is that right? (lol) How/where do I get to see any response to this question? Will I receive an email? Do I need to check a special page of Wikipedia every so often?

Hello Loge Reborn, and welcome to the Teahouse! As you've noticed, simple edits are simple, more complicated stuff are more complicated, but often easy enough once you figure out how. You found the Teahouse, that's a good start. Help:Editing may be of use.

On your specific point, first place to ask would be the articles talkpage, in this case Talk:The Spectator. However, here we see at Talk:The_Spectator#Contradiction that another editor, Sitush, asked the same thing... in 2013. WP can be like that, not all talkpages are watched/answered by interested people.

So, in your case my next step would be to look at the top of that talkpage again at "This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:" and pick one of those and try again there. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Conservatism looks pretty alive (you can see it's been edited after 2013).

And yes, to see an answer to a question you asked you pretty much have to check the page you asked on again, but see also Help:Watchlist and Wikipedia:Notifications.

Trying and asking are the way to learn. Be WP:BOLD, then be prepared to listen and discuss if someone says "Hey, why did you do that/you shouldn't do that". Happy editing, and keep asking questions! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:45, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

"Publish changes" is confusing many people, apparently it's called that for legal reasons, I think it used to be just "Save". The change you were publishing was the addition of your text to this page. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey Loge Reborn. If you've found an obvious problem, but you're not comfortable fixing it yourself, because you're not familiar with the interface, you can add a comment on the article's talk page (accessed via a tab at the top of the article when viewing from PC). If you add {{Request edit|new}} to your comment there, it will be added to a queue of requested edits to be reviewed by an experienced volunteer. GMG ^talk 17:59, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

@Loge Reborn: thanks for pointing out the discrepancy on The Spectator. It took a bit of digging, but that is now resolved (unless someone disagrees with what I did). The Teahouse has become a sort of centralized discussion forum for all sorts of editing questions. I don't have anything to add to the helpful advice you've been given. Generally, it's good to be bold and make changes you know how to make. Technically, the "Publish changes" label on what used to be the "Save" button is an ongoing user interface problem. Finding the right forum is sometimes difficult, but you start with the talk page of the article, then escalate to the WikiProjects that page is labeled with, and finally, if there's still no response, you can see if any of the editors who have worked on the article in the past may be interested in helping you – you can find them by looking at the page history. You should not contact them at random, though. Check out what sort of edit they made and look at their user page and talk page and check their contribution history to see if they're still active. Some editors are specialists, some edit more generally. You probably want one of the latter sort unless you can tell that your topic matches a specialist's speciality. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:17, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

And WP can be like this too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:04, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

My article on Rohan Srinivasan

Cannot understand why my entry for Rohan Srinivasan is deleted. Please restore. He has not filed the article himself. It was filed by me. I do not thik he has even seen it. He is a Hind Ratna awardee from the International Business Council of India and was listed as among the top 40 public relations people under 40 in India by Reputation Magazine. He is being considered for a Bharat Shiromani award this year. There is no copyright violation, it is not autobiographical, just factual information, and he is a suitable person to be included. I have updated the entry today and hope to see it restored soon. Thank you!

Krishnan Srinivasan former foreign secretary of India — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ksrinivasanuk (talk • contribs) 12:57, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

If you are who you say you are you should not be editing the article on yourself Krishnan Srinivasan, nor on your son. Please read about conflict of interest. Also your user page is not the place for an article about your son; please see WP:user pages. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:13, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Creating article for someone who currently shares an article with someone else

Hi - I'm interested in creating a separate article for Ruth Benesch, who currently shares a start-class article with her husband, Reinhold. What's the protocol in this case. Do I just leave the existing article as is (but link it to Ruth's separate page)? Thanks Biochemlife (talk) 12:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Biochemlife. There's no defined protocol that I'm aware of, but there is some practical advice at Wikipedia:Splitting and Wikipedia:Content forking. The key consideration would be that we try to avoid duplicate articles on the same topic. So if you were going to move material on Ruth Benesch to Ruth Benesch, that material would have to be removed from Reinhold and Ruth Benesch, which logically should then be renamed to Reinhold Benesch. I would recommend proposing this on the talk page of the article first to make sure there are no objections from other editors. – Joe (talk) 14:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biochemlife (talk • contribs) 14:06, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Nomination

How do you nominate an article for ___ status? Cyclone of Foxes (talk) 19:25, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Most articles are Stub, Start, C-Class, B-Class, Good Article, Featured Article. GA and FA have to go through a nomination and review process. However, because of your specific interest in hurricanes, during an active season, articles such as 2018 Pacific hurricane season are designated Current class. David notMD (talk) 20:12, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

For Good Articles and Feature Articles, see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates (be sure to read Wikipedia:Featured article criteria) and Wikipedia:Good article nominations (also be sure to read the instructions). /Julle (talk) 20:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

@David notMD: wow, I'd never heard of Current class before. Does that apply to any in-the-news subject which could experience frequent editing? – Reidgreg (talk) 13:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

So outside of that, how would you nominate an article like last year's hurricane season? Cyclone of Foxes (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:37, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Cyclone of Foxes. Sorry we didn't give you an explicit answer to your question first time around. There is no nomination process for articles apart from GA and FA level. All the rest can be assessed directly by any individual editor. Clearly there is no perfect system if you operate on one person's view, but this is still far better than having no assessment at all. You can find out the scale of gradings at Wikipedia:Content assessment. Then there's also a useful overview table at Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Assessment that you might find interesting. Does this give you the answer you were looking for? (PS: I found the account on your userpage of how you became a Wikipedian to be really interesting.) Regards Nick Moyes (talk) 12:37, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

@Cyclone of Foxes: For C-, B- and A-class reviews, assessment is done by the relevant WikiProject(s) when there is sufficient interest (i.e.: enough volunteers). The assessment department at Wikipedia:WikiProject Meteorology/Assessment has been inactive for the past two years, but the main talk page is still active so you could try asking (i.e.: requesting assessment) at one of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Meteorology or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones – assuming those are the relevant WikiProjects for the article in question. I hope this is of help. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: This Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Season articles task force seems to suggest that tropical storm season reporting came up with the idea of "Current" specifically for a season list of storms when the season is still active. The only reason I looked for and found it was that Cyclone of Foxes has been contributing to those articles. David notMD (talk) 14:07, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! Cyclone of Foxes (talk) 14:41, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Adding a logo

Hi, I am Carlos and I work in the communications department of a school. I just wanted to know how can I upload the logo of the school to the wikipedia page. I tried lots of times but it doesn't let me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgarciawulff (talk • contribs) 16:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

The process is described at WP:Logos. If you are editing on behalf of your employer you need to read about conflict of interest and about paid editing. Looking at some of your recent edits, you also need to read WP:MOS#First-person pronouns. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:24, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Editing article about my uncle and aunt

Hi, I would like to know if it is okay to edit this article about my uncle and my aunt. I know them well. How do i edit without problems with the COI? Thanks. Huff slush7264 Chat With Me 14:35, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Huff slush7264. Since there is a conflict of interest, it will not be appropriate to edit the article yourself. However, you may request changes at the article talk page, and must provide reliable sources for neutrality. Thanks, Knightrises10 (talk) 14:41, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

I don't know them too well, because actually I haven met them in 3? 2?, years. Huff slush7264 Chat With Me 17:03, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Knightrises10. How well you know them is not really relevant: the point is that you have a connection with them, and this might make it difficult for you to write in a sufficiently neutral way. (Note that this is not just about the words you use, but also what you choose to write about or not). Of course in some cases people with a connection with the subject manage to write perfectly neutrally; but to avoid even the suspicion of a problem, it is recommended that you suggest the edits you want made, on the article's talk page. You can add the template {{edit request}} to make sure your request gets noticed. --ColinFine (talk) 17:56, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

ColinFine You pinged the wrong person :-) Maybe due to some indentation mistakes.. Knightrises10 (talk) 17:59, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

My apologies Knightrises10. I meant to ping Huff slush7264. --ColinFine (talk) 18:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Why my entry under ”Kamat” was deleted?

I added Narayan D Kamat in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama. It was deleted last night (India time). Can I know what I am doing wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Satkam1402 (talk • contribs) 19:32, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

If you had added it to Kama it would have been entirely irrelevant. As far as adding it to Kamat is concerned, the recommendation (if the subject is notable under Wikipedia's definition) is that firstly you write the article on the subject, and then you add a link to that article from the list of notable people with that surname. The recommendation is at WP:Write the article first. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:49, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Question about the removal of a COI Template

Hello Friends!

So I just have a quick question about the removal of a COI Template. I clicked on an article and I noticed that someone placed a COI template on the article. After reading the article I concluded that it was truthful and accurate. And I have experience with the article's topic (as I am very knowledgeable about Athletics and have a background in professional sports) So the article William Wise III to be specific, apparently had a contributor that may be close to the subject? What exactly does that mean? Shouldn't the author of the article be close and knowledgable to their article's topic ? Nevertheless I removed the COI template and received the following message:

"Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to William Wise III, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you."

I'm fine with understanding and accepting if I did something wrong (Not giving a valid reason in the edit summary) so I didn't comment or anything just made me scratch my head. So fast forward, I happened to click on the page a couple days ago and I noticed someone else also removed the COI template from the same article and this time gave a valid reason. "(Clean up complete. Article now complies with Wikipedia's content policies. (neutral point of view) (COI) Issue resolved.)" Then today I noticed the same user that reverted my initial removal of the COI template, also reverted this other user's removal of the template as well. This was also after several other users also made corrections to the same article. So I am just curious ? What is wrong with the article just so I can know for future reference ? And what is the correct way to go about removing a COI template or any other template for that matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristianSports (talk • contribs) 20:06, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

@ChristianSports: There's definitely COI problems at that article that are still ongoing. As an example, the article states (as of this writing, it won't for long) that "Wise led the team to a 10-13 record while averaging 21 points per game in his first season in professional basketball." There are four sources cited, only one of which even mentions Wise, and in that only briefly mentioning that he's a new player. None of them support that he "led" the team in any way. That type of exaggerated, reference-bombed claim is a clear hallmark of COI promotional editing. Quite honestly, given that this article is the only one you've done more than add wikilinks to, and you're taking a tremendous amount of interest in a minor maintenance template, it appears very likely that you have a COI as well. To remove the COI template, every bit of material written by the COI editor must be checked by experienced non-COI editors for accuracy and neutrality, and COI editing needs either to have stopped, or any editors with a COI need to have declared it and be following best practices, such as only submitting edits on the talk page rather than editing the article directly. That can take a long time to happen, so the template will probably be there for quite a while. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @ChristianSports: This is more of an aside, than an answer to your questions. . . Wikipedia aims to be based on the reputable published sources which it cites, rather than the knowledge (or worse, the opinions) of its contributors. You'll realise why if you think about the arguments that are likely to arise between editors. So your professional background and your knowledge of sports give you no particular authority to edit articles on sports subjects; but your familiarity with reputable sources does. Maproom (talk) 20:25, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Someone deleting edited material - what to do about it?

Recently I have added in the section https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%ED%95%9C%EA%B8%80_%EC%9E%90%ED%8C%90#%EB%91%90%EB%B2%8C%EC%8B%9D_%EC%9E%90%ED%8C%90

Someone has deleted the material I added. I have no idea why he would do this. How to remedy this practice? The material was simply a description of a new Korean keyboard layout (I have been working on it since 1989 and finalized 2015), which is meant to supplement material of the various old and current (since 1969!) layouts. It has nothing to do with controversial topic, such as in politics and religious stuff.

I would appreciate very much for your kind advice.

Oun Kwon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ounbbl (talk • contribs) 20:32, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

The Teahouse is for questions related to editing the English language Wikipedia. For questions about the Korean Wikipedia you need to ask there. I believe that their equivalent of the Teahouse is at ko:위키백과:키다리_아저씨. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:42, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Hello Ounbbl and welcome to the Teahouse.

It looks like you are asking about a page in Korean Wikipedia. This help page is mainly oriented towards helping new editors with English Wikipedia. If you were to add material about your own invention here on English Wikipedia, it would likely be reverted because a) you have a conflict of interest and b) it would need to be supported by sources independent of you. I don't read Korean (and I can't rely very much on Google translate), but it appears that this may be what happened to you on ko-wiki. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:48, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Changing a redirect page to an article

Based on (a slightly ancient) talk page discussion with other editors, I intend to change Sutherland Clearances from a redirect page to an article. (It is a big enough subject on its own and will make the Highland clearances article more balanced if the section of that referring to Sutherland gets a substantial precis.)

Are there any particular technical points that I need to observe - it is clearly not like starting a brand new article?
ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 20:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

What you are proposing is splitting the current Highland clearances into a shorter version of its current self, and Sutherland Clearances. I have no relevant knowledge or opinions, but I suggest you read Wikipedia:Splitting for the technical details. Maproom (talk) 20:12, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

~~It's more a case of there being an existing page Sutherland Clearances which happens to be a redirect. I am concerned that there will be some technical implications in changing it into an article.~~

I am quite relaxed about the content issue: there is an old talk page discussion for Highland clearances (it is archived and there is a lot to plough through to find it) where we agreed that Sutherland clearances could do with a separate article (I won't put the logic here, but it is well reasoned - and I did not originate the idea.) Then we had problems with a disruptive editor and lost momentum on the whole thing. The high volume of text on the Sutherland clearances in Highland clearances is the result of a bit of poor (unhelpful) and very recent editing by me - I really should have put the bulk of that material in the new article and a precis in the old one. Now I need to fix that as the article is seriously unbalanced.

I think the final result should be something like Scharnhorst-class battleship#Section:Battle of North Cape where you get a link to the subject that is part of the larger subject. I don't think that is an article split, just more detail on part of the subject in a different article. The only change to the existing article is a much needed abridgement of a recent addition by the editor who added it.
ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 21:21, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Just double checked the Splitting information and realised it does answer my question. Sorry!!
ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 21:30, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

My Wikipedia Page Was Deleted, Can You Advice Me on How to Get it Back?

Hello,

I had a page here for several years made by a friend:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Noble_(artist)

It is now been made a draft here because the creator violated Wikipedia terms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Margaret_Noble_(artist)

Is there anyway I can request a review for republishing of my page? Thank you for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margaretnobleartist (talk • contribs) 14:26, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Question already asked, and answered, here. Maproom (talk) 15:46, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

User:Margaretnobleartist - First, it isn't your article. Wikipedia is not a directory and Wikipedia is not a social medium. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and has articles about people and subjects that are considered notable and are written from a neutral point of view. Second, and this is advice for other readers as well as you, don't rely on paid editors to get articles in Wikipedia. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:33, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Left a comment on your Talk page. David notMD (talk) 21:36, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hayden ferry

Am I allowed to create a page that has not created if I can verify info. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Love lynettie (talk • contribs) 21:48, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Love lynettie, and welcome to Wikipedia! Generally, there are two questions to answer: does the subject make sense in an encyclopedia (we call this notability) and can it be properly verified by reliable sources? If yes, then sure. If you read more at Wikipedia:Notability, you can find some information there. If you have any question, feel free to ask them here – we can help you if there's anything you don't understand. We're happy you want to add to the encyclopedia. /Julle (talk) 22:51, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

What needs to be done to fix an issue on a page and remove a maintenance template

Hi, the article I'm working on was tagged with: {{advert}} {{notability|Music}} {{db-spam}}I remade almost everything with a coleague, but the template continues. What should I do to remove it? Can someone please verify the article to see if there's still issues? The article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bia_Mustafa_Alloush . THANKSkarenlima33 01:17, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

How to cite info

How do you cite info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Divertingflea17 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Divertingflea17. Please read Referencing for beginners and feel free to ask specific questions here. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:19, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Help

Can someone please fact check and edit my article on Roki Vulvoic? He was and important figure in the Yugoslav Wars. Link to article: Draft:Roki_Vulvoic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Divertingflea17 (talk • contribs) 21:25, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Divertingflea17. Welcome to the Teahouse. Irrespective of any factual accuracy, your draft is a blatant copyright theft of content from the cited source. That is not allowed here in any shape or form, so the page ~~will be~~ has been flagged for speedy deletion. See Wikipedia:Copyright violations. That won't stop you recreating a page, but you would anyway need more far detailed and Reliable Sources to demonstrate notability as a musician, or more general notability as a person. The page you cited (copied) appears to be a user-generated biography. If he was an important figure, you must surely be able to find some in-depth sources which talk about him that you can use? Sorry to come down on you so harshly, but thank you for trying to contribute to the encyclopaedia. Nick Moyes (talk) 02:10, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Need a to create a page for a person

Dear Sir,

I seek your help to create the page for Mr. Rohit Bansal who is working with reliance industries at a very high position. Despite repeated attempts, i am not able to have the page approved. So, I beg for your help to create the page.

thank you.. Supreet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supreet1234 (talk • contribs) 06:13, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Supreet1234. Why do you "need" to create an article on Rohit Bansal? – Joe (talk) 06:30, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

@Supreet1234:, you asked the same thing a couple of days ago, at the help desk for article creation. Please read the reply you received there. --bonadea contributions talk 06:57, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

After looking into it a bit more, I've blocked this editor for repeated copyright violations and blatant undisclosed paid editing. – Joe (talk) 07:01, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Font

How do I change the font on my userpage to Veranda? Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:22, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: I assume you mean Verdana. If so you can use <span style="font-family: Verdana;">Some text</span>, or for large blocks of text (e.g. a whole page) <div style="font-family: Verdana;">Lots of text</div>. See Help:Cascading Style Sheets for more information. Although please do note that Verdana is a proprietary font that some users will not have available on their systems, and that many editors find heavily formatting user pages like that unnecessary and obnoxious. – Joe (talk) 07:08, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Shikha Khanduja Kaul

Hi Wiki,

I think this article need to delete ..prank Article without any reliable references.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikha_Khanduja_Kaul

Surbhi20 (talk) 06:22, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Surbhi20 It's clearly not a "prank article", the subject really exists and does appear to be notable. The article needs to be cleaned up, particularly for tone and of course referencing, but I'm not seeing any obvious reason for speedy deletion. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:17, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dodger67 So, Without notability reference the article can appear on Wikipedia? I don't think this is a valid guidelines of Wikipedia.

Surbhi20 (talk) 08:43, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

If you believe the page should be deleted, then you should go to WP:AFD and nominate the page for deletion there with your reasons for wanting the page deleted, then the community will decide whether the page will be kept or deleted. Iffy★Chat -- 09:10, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Create a summary

I was wondering how to create a summary with date of birth, nationality, occupation etc. when creating a page for a specific person? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlottelorimer (talk • contribs) 09:06, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Charlotte, and welcome to the Teahouse. You should read up on Infoboxes.
Can you please sign any posts on talk and discussion pages by typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end? Thanks, Rojomoke (talk) 09:50, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Charlottelorimer Hi, I believe you are after "infobox". Please visit Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes and Help:Infobox. For the template list of infoboxes - pls go to [[1]]. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 12:43, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

What is XlinkBot ?

A couple of days ago, I had added some external links to provide animations and simulations to many pattern types in cellular automata, but was removed by XlinkBot telling that my links were probably wrong and if they were not, I could undo the edit, how ? I did not know. So I just did my edit again and was removed again from the page by the same bot. How does XlinkBot identify such links and why is it repeating it’s action even when it’s not supposed to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARK Mforwiki (talk • contribs) 13:02, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

@ARK Mforwiki: First of all, welcome to the teahouse. Secondly (and in answer to your question), XLinkBot (talk · contribs) is an automated account charged with surveying external links in articles to ensure that they do not match the links on the Wikipedia's approved blacklist of external links that are often (but not always) misused or over relied upon by anonymous users or new accounts. While any site can be added with consensus, the blacklist tends to include links we've had trouble with in the past - in particular, external links that go to porn sites, youtube, blogs, and other sites - are autolocked by Xlinkbot and require that users request a whitelisting for the external link in question to include the article the link is to be added to a specific and well thought out rational to add a blacklisted site to the article in question (for example, a link to youtube in the article youtube would be acceptable because its our article on the website and such articles do include a link to the website covered in the article). Unless you ask for a whitelisting of the external site in question for the article in question, the bot will assume that the edit is unneeded and will revert to keep the external website out of the article in question. TomStar81 (Talk) 13:24, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

The second removal, and the removal of links from another article, was by a human editor rather than by the bot. An explanation was given on your user talk page, so you ought to read that again, and in particular you need to read the guidance at WP:external links which was pointed out in that notice on your user talk page, and also in the edit summary of the revert. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:27, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft: Jay Jones (rapper)

Hello, I'm looking for clarity on why Jay Jones has been rejected. Both reviewers mentioned that "notability" is the reason. When I researched "music notability" it took me to a page that explained that at least one of the criteria had to be met. Below is one of the criteria he meets. He also has third party media stories which are listed as references in the submission. Can you please let me know what we are doing wrong?

(Young Money Entertainment - Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, Drake, etc) Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).

Efemjee, notability ultimately requires references. There is insufficient reference material in the article to demonstrate that the subject is in fact notable. You will need substantial amounts of source material that are reliable, independent of the subject, and cover the subject in reasonable depth, not just a blurb or name drop. Additionally, if the article were in mainspace, I'd delete it as promotional. Language like "mogul", "legend", "top names", and other such puff needs to be removed. It refers to a "studio baby", with no explanation of what on Earth that even means. The external links to the music would also need to be removed, and section headers should never be in ALL CAPS. So even if additional sourcing can be found, that should lead to its rejection as promotional. If additional sourcing can't be found, the subject isn't an appropriate one for an article. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:44, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback Seraphimblade. Very helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Efemjee (talk • contribs) 16:23, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Filter

How can I edit the filter? - Vincent gouta (talk) 08:54, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Vincent gouta: Welcome to the Teahouse. Could you give use a bit more context? It's not obvious which filter you refer to. Wikipedia:Edit filter? Something else? /Julle (talk) 16:25, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Editing an infobox

Hi,

I'm fairly new to editing wikipedia. One of the pages I want to edit has an infobox called "gene" that is missing an important piece of information (PDB id). I'd like to add it in but can't figure out how. I've tried changing

{{infobox_gene}}

to

{{infobox_gene
| PDB = 5HA6
}}

as well as PDB id = 5HA6

but it doesn't actually change anything in the infobox. If I could figure out how to edit infoboxes, there are a few articles I could work on here

Thanks, Jollyclause

Hey Jollyclause. It looks like that infobox doesn't store data locally, but pulls it from the corresponding Wikidata item. You can access this by going to the relevant article, and clicking "Wikidata item" from the list on the left side of the page. GMG ^talk 16:26, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

New logo

Hi,

I'm a total newbie and I'm struggling to update our company logo. Our last attempt was deleted by "Magog the Ogre" because the logo wasn't properly tagged. The creation of the logo was paid for by AUI, so we own the rights but want wiki to use and we want to tag the logo appropriately...probably however Nike tagged their logo?

Our updated logo is at: https://www.aui.edu/wp-content/themes/AUI/library/images/AUI-logo-2018-invert.png

Please help, we struggle with the platform and literally created our account just to update the logo and such :)

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhebertt (talk • contribs) 18:21, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Mhebertt and welcome to the Teahouse. As AUI holds the copyright to the logo, it cannot be uploaded as free content to Wikimedia Commons, as you did before. Instead, I've uploaded it to English Wikipedia as a copyrighted logo being used under fair use criteria. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Mhebertt (talk) 18:38, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Verificate a paragraph.

I was adding verifications and citations to an article about Coronary Artery Bypass Surgery and one of the paragraphs that have to be verified and cited does not seem to match the source I have (an apparently reliable one) because it tells a different story. What to do in that case? Anon_york 18:36, 8 October 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anon york (talk • contribs)

The obvious course to take would be to amend the paragraph to correspond with what the source says: every fact included in an article is supposed to be drawn from a reliable source (rather than a source being dredged up or cherry-picked to support a 'fact' already in the text, as sometimes happens).

Since however someone presumably had a reason to put the source-contradicting 'fact(s)' into the article in the first place, it might be a good idea to search for and compare other sources directly dealing with the 'facts' in question. Situations like this sometimes arise because a complicated set of facts has been over-simplified for the article, or indeed in one or more of the sources. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.217.102.65 (talk) 19:21, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Contribute

Hi everyone as I am new to Wikipedia I am eager to contribute can you please tell me a few ways.Md.Ali25 (talk) 16:19, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey Md.Ali25. You might want to start by taking our interactive tutorial at The Wikipedia Adventure, which can help accustom you to how editing Wikipedia works. Then if you have any remaining questions, you've found the right place to ask, and folks here will be more than happy to help. GMG ^talk 16:28, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Md.Ali25, and welcome to Wikipedia! We're happy you're here and want to help. It's much appreciated. I'd like to echo GreenMeansGo – try out the Wikipedia Adventure. Also, Wikipedia:Task Center has a good list of different tasks you could do. I'd recommend doing something else than creating new articles, that's often a bit difficult when you're new. /Julle (talk) 16:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

I'll echo the wise advice of both GMG and Julie --S Philbrick (Talk) 19:40, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Question

'WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD?' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammadu Safwatulari Usman (talk • contribs) 21:09, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Muhammadu Safwatulari Usman. Welcome to the Teahouse. Please be aware that we are here to answer questions solely for users who need assistance or guidance in editing and contributing to Wikipedia, and not for answering questions that people should be Googling themselves, or even using Wikipedia directly to find out the answers. But to get you started, try visiting List of largest cities. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:22, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

bot

how to make bot?

Huff slush7264 Chat With Me 20:57, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Huff slush7264 and thank you for sharing that photo with us all here at the Teahouse. I'm a little unclear of its relevance, but not to worry. It's cute. Whilst I personally don't have the skills to create or manage bots (they're powerful beasts that automate repetitive tasks on Wikipedia), I do think you would benefit from reading Wikipedia:Bots. This page provides a good introduction to the topic, and offers a link to other relevant pages, including how to create them, how to request others to create them, policy on bot usage etc etc. You need to appreciate that users are wholly responsible for the actions of the bots they themselves create and run, and need to test them extremely carefully before unleashing them on Wikipedia. I'm wondering what kind of task(s) you hope to automate, and whether any of our existing tools might do the job for you already? Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:33, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Add existing reference as a citation for an image

Hi, I uploaded an image and was trying to add a citation to an existing source on the page, but was unable to do so. I will have to create another reference for the image, which means there will be two references that open the same link. Appreciate your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maladvipa (talk • contribs) 09:48, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Did this edit do what you wanted? --David Biddulph (talk) 10:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes. Thank you! Are there instructions on how to do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maladvipa (talk • contribs) 10:27, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

There are instructions on how to reuse citations, but they specifically say the names shouldn't be numbers. And the reference doesn't seem to have a name. So I guess what that edit is doing is taking advantage of some sort of default name, so if a reference doesn't have a name, it gets a number instead, and that's how it references a reference without an actual name. But maybe someone with more referencing experience has another explanation and knows why the person making the edit didn't give the reference a name. Pretended leer (talk) 16:35, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

That reference name was added in this edit by the OP. The numbered reference names are what gets produced by the VisualEditor, which most experienced editors don't use. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:53, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Pretended leer (talk) 09:23, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi David Biddulph. When reusing references, are there cases when a page has both numbers and letters in the reference list, supposing different editors used VisualEditor and WikiText? I am concerned about this because I often use the Visual Editor. Thanks. - Darwin Naz (talk) 09:57, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes. Any name can be used, providing that it meets the defined requirements. It can't be purely numeric, but VisualEditor includes punctuation marks with the number. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:03, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay, got it. Thanks. - Darwin Naz (talk) 22:56, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maladvipa (talk • contribs) 06:13, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

How to solve this

Ok so I'm still a pretty new editor, and I was wondering how to deal with this. There's an article about a city that had half of its content & I think some references removed last month by an editor whose name is (insertcitynamehere)city.kr (Is it appropriate to link to their name in the teahouse? I'm not sure.) and replaced by unsourced information about taxi fares and how the town's logo represents it aspirations and the number of schoolchildren and stuff I see they've been warned about adding promotional material to that city's article before. Their only edits so far, of which there have been eleven, have also been to that article and I'd sort of like advice on how to deal with the editor. The other thing I need help on: their most recent edits were made last month, and since then there's been a good twenty edits or so to the article, none of which have fixed what the editor did. Should I revert that editor's edit? If I do that, will that revert all those nice edits that came after? Or should I go back in and add all the stuff the editor deleted? Or should I do something else? Is any of this question clear? I hope so. I didn't want to link the article because I'm not sure if its appropriate to do so, but I can because I also don't fully trust my judgement on this and I would appreciate somebody checking to see if I'm right. (I've only been sporadically editing for like 3 months now and I'm not 100% sure of all of wiki's policies.) Anyway, could somebody help me please? I'm probably overthinking everything, but thank you to whoever takes pity on me! GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 01:49, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

You are presumably referring to the article on Daegu, and to the edits last month by Daegucity.kr, which had no edit summary and no obvious explanation for the removal of much of the existing content? (Though not directly relevant, I notice that the user has been blocked from the Japanese Wikipedia.) --David Biddulph (talk) 02:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Yep, that's it. Sorry, I'll take it that it appropriate to link to the user? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 02:25, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, GreenLipstickLesbian. One important principle of Wikipedia is to be bold in editing, but like you, I am inclined to combine boldness with caution, or prudence. The first thing I want to say is that you can always link to a specific article, and always discuss a specific editor's contributions, though it is polite to notify an editor whose work you are discussing in detail. If you see unreferenced and unencyclopedic content, remove it. If solid, well-referenced content is removed, restore it. Only through such bold editing will you refine your skills and develop a better understanding of editorial judgment. Always be willing to discuss content disagreements and work toward compromise and consensus. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok thank you Cullen328for the clarification and advice! I will try to be bold now. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 02:47, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Update: edit got reverted by a different account so now I'm starting a discussion on the talk page. Is that the right step? I feel like it is. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 19:10, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

GreenLipstickLesbian, it sure is, well done. Hopfully the other editor will be willing to talk, one can never know. I see you found WP:BRD already. One thing you can do if you like is to post at for example Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea, something like "There is a discussion about X at Talk:Daegu#Recent_Edits, your input is welcome." Good luck with your editing! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång Oh, thank you! That looks like a good idea. I didn't even know that was a thing, thank you for telling me. I'll go and do that now I guess. Again, thank you! GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 00:34, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

New page disappeared

I created a new entry. All looked fine when I was done and did a search through the main search of Wikipedia - it came right up. But now the page seems to be missing. What happened? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMReedCello (talk • contribs) 16:39, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

@JMReedCello: There is no other edits from this account other than this question you have posted. Did you create the article while logged out or with a different account? RudolfRed (talk) 18:28, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello JMReedCello and welcome to the Teahouse.

Without a name for the article, we ordinary editors are deprived of the one tool we could use to help you. If the article had been deleted in one of the normal ways, there would most likely have been some notice on your talk page about it. Since there is no such notice, the article is most likely mislaid, but there is no evidence that you created it with this account. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:45, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

If this is about Draft:MusicJOT - there it is. (Searching on "MusicJOT" won't see it.) However, per your Talk page, this is headed for deletion because it violates copyright: "A tag has been placed on Draft:MusicJOT requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://www.monalisarecords.com/musicjot.html. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted." David notMD (talk) 20:28, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Well, there it was - since deleted. David notMD (talk) 00:43, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

That draft wasn't created until after the original question. As stated earlier, there hadn't been any edits from this account prior to the original question. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:55, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism

I see vandalism in a number of article but how can I prevent it?Md.Ali25 (talk) 03:05, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

You will find advice at WP:Vandalism. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:19, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Adding content with curse words? Comment

Are curse words allowed when adding content? I found interview related content (which contains the F-word) that I'm considering adding to a music artists page.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by BigJoeRockHead (talk • contribs) 19:48, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

@BigJoeRockHead: Yes, as per WP:NOTCENSORED. As long as the content is not just added for the sake of cursing, you can add it. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 19:53, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

More precisely, in the case that you appear to be describing, the curse words are being quoted, in which case they should be properly attributed. Adding curse words to an article for no obvious reason is a form of vandalism and will result in a block. In your case, go ahead and attribute the words with a properly formatted reference. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:18, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Image enquiries...

I am currently working on uploading good images that talks about the 'O Arise, All You Sons' anthem of Papua New Guinea. Currently, there is just the seal of the PNG government representing the anthem. I am trying to replace the image with an image of a PNG football opening ceremony, the players singing the anthem with the PNG flag alongside iconic figures wearing natural attire. Can someone please help me with this?

I also need help knowing if these types of images are allowed. It's a screen grab from a highres youtube video. I'm assuming this is alright to use as long as I provide context what the image is and where it was taken from. Then again - assumption is the mother of all stuff-ups. Is it safe to manipulate the image so it can be regarded as mine or is manipulating images a big fat 'no' for integrity's sake?

Pnginitiator (talk) 01:22, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Pnginitiator. I was just off to bed when I saw your question. Thanks for asking it but it's a big, fat NO! DON'T DO THAT! from me, I'm afraid. You may only upload images that you have taken - and thus own the copyright to, unless whatever image or video you have found has already made a clear and unequivocal Creative Commons declaration that allows bot commercial and non-commercial use. If that declaration isn't there, please don't go and try to create and upload an image that will appear to be your own work, but that someone later spots has effectively been 'stolen' by you. We do take copyright breaches very seriously. I must leave it to others to provide links to the relevant pages for guidance. I hope this reply is in time to stop you falling foul of our WP:COPYVIO rules. Goodnight. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:32, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Was not going to touch anything until I got an answer. Thanks for your fast response. Any links or pages would be appreciated. If I am wanting to be persistent - how do you get permission to use such images? I was just reading about 'derivative works'. I am not from the US but am located in Papua New Guinea where there appears to be no clear laws (from who I've talked to) yet on these issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pnginitiator (talk • contribs) 01:37, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Pnginitiator. You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for more details on ways to contact and request permission from copyright holders. You can also check out Wikipedia:Example requests for permission for some examples. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:50, 9 October 2018 (UTC)