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2020 coronavirus pandemic in Ukraine

At their Official Website: https://moz.gov.ua/article/news/operativna-informacija-pro-poshirennja-koronavirusnoi-infekcii-2019-ncov- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel baran (talkcontribs) 08:50, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Version at 10:05 (Ukrainian time) [1] Тернопільська область — 4 випадки (2 з яких виявлено протягом останньої доби);
Version at 10:52 (Ukrainian time) [2] Тернопільська область — 4 випадки (1 летальний), 2 з яких виявлено протягом останньої доби;
Toddy1 (talk) 10:18, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Help, once again, please!

Hi! I would like to supplement the article Matvei Platov with the phrase: "The object of intangible cultural heritage are names, including the names of ships. From May 1813 to 2019, 18 ships associated with the name of M.I. Platova. Nowadays, six ships are operating in Russia, associated with the name of the ataman of the Don Army M.I. Platova."Please help me do it right. Thanks depo (talk) 19:16, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

They do not like purple prose, so phrases like "object of intangible cultural heritage" do not work in Wikipedia.
To do an interwiki link, you use the following format [[:ru:Список кораблей Платов/Platoff]]. This produces ru:Список кораблей Платов/Platoff. But you also need to phrase it so that it is clear that the link is to a Russian-language page. So use the same formula as before:
From May 1813 to the present, at least 18 ships have been named after ataman of the Don Army M.I. Platov (see list of ships named Platov or Platoff).Ru
But why not translate the Russian-language articles into English and add it as a new page?
If you want to make a link to an foreign-language page on either English- or Russian-language Wikipedia, then:
You will see that the key to the interwiki-link is the ":en:" to link to English-language Wikipedia, or ":ru:" to link to Russian-language Wikipedia. Toddy1 (talk) 20:50, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
By the way ru:Список кораблей Казак/Cossack. But you might want to look at HMS Cossack, which lists seven ships called HMS Cossack (though one of these was cancelled during construction). The Russian-language article only lists two ships called HMS Cossack. Just as English-language Wikipedia editors can benefit from looking at Russian-language pages, so Russian-language Wikipedia editors can benefit from looking at English-language pages (though often it is necessary to look at the sources cited. Toddy1 (talk) 20:58, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
great appreciation for the practical and methodological help!!! 1. HMS ships - seven, I checked. 2.
if I put a link to the languages ​​- will the article translate automatically? depo (talk) 16:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
No.
If you are interested in old Royal Navy ships, look at Amazon.co.uk for an author called Rif Winfield. The English pound is very weak now, so it may be cheaper than buying from US Amazon. Toddy1 (talk) 19:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
translate.yandex.ru
I am interested in Borodino. My articles on topography of the era of the Napoleonic wars, as well as on ships associated with the names of participants in the battle of Borodino. The fact is that the first ships associated with their names were British ships. Thank you for the tip. I believe that my work, based on the Lloyd's Register, a periodical of the time, brought new information, at least in Russia. Good day." With best wishes depo (talk) 15:09, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Please don not remove my changes. Mubashirsyed014 (talk) 04:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

If you want your changes to stick, post honest edit summaries and do not tick the minor edits checkbox when you add significant content.
When your block has expired, please contribute to Talk:Tablighi Jamaat/Archive 2#The thoughts of so-called scholars. Maybe you should create new articles on authors you admire. Toddy1 (talk) 12:44, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
See also Talk:Wahhabism#Haneef James Oliver. Toddy1 (talk) 13:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

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Info recheck please

I see in editing history you said ""saying that he is vice chancellor of Islamic University, Bangladesh is clear; saying that he is vice chancellor of Islamic University is unclear (unless you live in Bangladesh)""

There is multiple source for that proved he is vice chancellor of Islamic University, Bangladesh. There is no where in his article that say he is vice chancellor of Islamic University. what is the problem here?

Please let me know

content source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Askari — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehedi-iu (talkcontribs) 12:59, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

In the old version of the article, the infobox said that he is "Vice-Chancellor of Islamic University". This was not clear. So I fixed it.
In the current version of the article on Rashid Askari, the infobox says that he is "Vice-Chancellor of Islamic University, Bangladesh". We both agree that this is correct. Toddy1 (talk) 14:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Mubashirsyed014

Don't remove my content or else I'll have to report you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mubashirsyed014 (talkcontribs) 17:28, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[3]

  Report me then. Toddy1 (talk) 17:50, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

About data

Not disputing, but consider usage: https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/data-is-data-are Smeagol 17 (talk) 08:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Depressing isn't it. So many people making simple errors in English. It is the same with handwriting, which was better in the 1860s than the 1940s, and is far worse now than in the 1940s. Schools are not teaching people properly.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Eh, this is true, but this is part of language evolution. Some would even say that nativization of foreign words is better than leaving them as-is.Smeagol 17 (talk) 10:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Warning

 

Your recent editing history at Feodosia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Smurf234 (talkcontribs) —Preceding undated comment added 08:06, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

You should report me then at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:21, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vitalii Moshkivskyi-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

With reference to Barelvi

Thanks for your worries about me The edits was not my personal interpretation and we cannot deny the fact about a particular source which itself approving the fact regarding itself Examples The fact was about assunnah America which is supported by assunah on its official Website According to me no other sources regarding can be as strong as it was there same with al AzharMushtaque Husain zaini (talk) 09:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

You need reliable secondary sources for this. See Wikipedia:No original research.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Added secondary websites and the previous one more clearly demonstrating the given fact Mushtaque Husain zaini (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:39, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Asjad Raza Khan

what I update on article Asjad Raza Khan Is Correct. He Is Famous Barelvi Scholar and His Full Name is Mufti Muhammad Asjad Raza Khan Qadri what type of information you want please tell me because what i written is correct only though I update his personal and professional Information Only which is known by most of barelvi sect people Thanks--KhanQadriRazvi (talk) 05:40, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles should be based on what reliable, published sources say. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Articles should not be based on what you think ought to be true, even though reliable sources says something different.-- Toddy1 (talk) 05:53, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello

The article that i added, supported my edit. It stated that Saudi Arabia started Salafism and not Egypt. Mubashirsyed014 (talk) 13:05, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Citation Barnstar
For your amazing contributions to Shakir Ali Noori, I feel good to award you this. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 14:59, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Possible help

I was formatting referencing format on my newly created list article about students of Mahmud Hasan Deobandi. I just thought it was better to provide page-number references, instead of referencing the whole book at multiple places, where I had not used page numbers. I have resorted to harv method, please can you see if there are any possible issues in that? Thanks. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 00:42, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

If you were writing a book or an article for a magazine, it would be fine. There is a problem on Wikipedia. No article is ever finished. Other people come and change things. Having references that only give the author's name, a date, and a page number becomes very confusing once the article gets citations to several books or articles by the same author. Please also remember that many Wikipedia editors are incompetent but do not know it (see the article on the Dunning–Kruger effect).
Yes, I agree that it is better to have the full details only once if there are going to be lots of citations to different pages of the same book. Compare the following:
  • Mehboob, Syed, History of the Dar al-Ulum Deoband, p. 60
  • (Syed Mehboob 1981c, p. 60)
The former is less confusing, and more likely to survive the ravages of other editors.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:05, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:Article half-life. -- Toddy1 (talk) 13:12, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I was confused a bit about this. Going to fix that soon. Thanks for all this. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 13:15, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Are you still an administrator on any pages

Are you still an administrator on any pages. I think when I was editing the Muawiyah I page you were an administrator Johnleeds1 (talk) 12:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

I am not a Wikipedia administrator. I never have been. You can check what user rights editors have through this link.[4] -- Toddy1 (talk) 14:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Please note that I sometimes take a break from Wikipedia.[5] The reasons for this vary.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:04, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of File:Dnepropetrovsk in Winter 9801.JPG

 

The file File:Dnepropetrovsk in Winter 9801.JPG has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Violates WP:NOTSTORAGE: "Please upload only files that are used (or will be used) in encyclopedia articles or project pages; anything else will be deleted. If you have extra relevant images, consider uploading them to the Wikimedia Commons, where they can be linked from Wikipedia."

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Please consider addressing the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated files}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and files for discussion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. — kashmīrī TALK 03:42, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Have you considered an indefinite block? It would solve the problem.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Image Name for Jitendra Kumar Soni

The article on which i wanted to add image of jitendra kumar soni, name of image is Jksoni.jpg Dkmohta (talk) 11:58, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I replied at Talk:Jitendra Kumar Soni.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:06, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Darul Uloom Waqf

Can you please expand/correct some facts at Darul Uloom Waqf, Deoband per resources on Google books. Its much part can be sourced from a book of Noor Alam Khalil Amini, a book of Mufti Taqi Usmani and others (I've access to as hard books). But rightly it needs some main information + courses fixed to short as "dars-e-nizami" syllabus. I may expand more issues later, if time permits. I've an exam after a day or two. Thanks. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 17:41, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Are you still active

Are you still active on wikipedia Johnleeds1 (talk) 14:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

A bit. The best ways to judge how active an editor is, is to look at:
I deleted my watch list a while ago, and it is building back up. I also tend to remove WP:ANI from my watch list a few days after contributing. If there is something you want me to take a look at, you will need to tell me.-- Toddy1 (talk) 16:27, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Safoora Zargar reverted edits

Hi, hope you are doing well.

You recently reverted back my edits for which she said, " --> "because"

Because can be used there if the next line would be in passive voice. In active voice, we should use She said, "text" instead of because. Because' can be use if you put his sayings in passive voice. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)05:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

With the greatest respect, you are completely wrong.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:48, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Rumi

Dear Toddy1 I believe Rumi was burn, live and died in Grator Iran and he was an Iranian resident.when we talking about someone and we are outside of his living area we say his nationality is.... when you tell he was from Greator Khorasan some afghan or tajik think he was afghn or tajik although Afghanistan and Tajikestan wasn't countries on that period of time. as a result Turkish think he was a turk because he died in Ghunieh locatted in nowadays turkey. I can understand someone editing wiki page as a business to make Equivocal words to confuse some nation to be ready for argument and maybe cultural war. I hope caould make clear your mind.so you are British not Manchesterish or Londonish.sorry for my English level.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hossein29394 (talkcontribs) 13:31, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

What can I do

Hi Toddy 1

I added some content to some pages like Treaty of Amritsar and Kashmir conflict and Gilgit_Agency but Kautilya3 keeps on removing it even though it has all the references. What can I do. Johnleeds1 (talk) 09:45, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Treaty of Amritsar - zero edits by you.
  • Kashmir conflict: 29 May and 3 June, which were reverted by MarkH21, who wrote the following in edit summaries (1) "there may be constructive additions here, but it’s a massive unexplained edit that breaks the lead and replaces a lot of existing content without explanation", and (2) "If you reread the discussion, there are more problems than one or two, with these being quite generally problematic". You are participating in Talk:Kashmir conflict, which is the right thing to do.
  • Gilgit Agency, edits on 19 and 28 May that were reverted by AnM2002 on 31 May. This is being discussed at Talk:Gilgit Agency, which is good. There is a wrong understanding of WP:PRIMARY.
    • The editors seem to think that the policy is that a primary source "cannot be used for anything on Wikipedia".
    • Policy really says "Unless restricted by another policy, primary sources that have been reputably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them.[a] Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation. A primary source may be used on Wikipedia only to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge."
  1. ^ Any exceptional claim would require exceptional sources.
-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:53, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
By the way, if I were to intervene, some people might object on the grounds of canvassing. However, it is entirely possible that other editors who have my page on their watch list will choose to intervene.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Looking at this edit, it is very easy to see why people why people object to a citation to the Hunza Development Forum. The page referenced[6] is a useful page - but it is user-generated content. With respect of the other citation, you would do better to cite specific pages of the actual book. It is difficult to see how a reasonable person would think that a book written in 1947 or 1950 is a primary source for the events of 1846-47. But if people object to that source, why not use other sources. You need to be very clear about what sources actually say. For example, Operations in Jammu & Kashmir 1947-48 page 11 says that "Gilgit had been held on a lease by the Government of India, and was handed back by the Maharaja only in August 1947." I do not have a copy of Brown's book; it is possible that it is self-serving.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:25, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Masrat Zahra

I have seen your amazing contributions to Safoora Zargar, would you please have a look at my new article about Kashmiri photojournalist Masrat Zahra. I hope you will enjoy expanding it. Regards - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 20:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

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Jai Valley Capitalisation

archived from Sandbox talk page

How the sources used in the article capitalise it:
  1. "Jai Valley"
  2. "Jai Valley"
  3. "Jai Valley"
  4. "Jai Valley"
  5. "Jai Valley" - but this source has many capitalisation errors
  6. "Jai Valley"
  7. "Jai valley" [sic]
  8. "Jai Ghati" ["ghati" is a Hindi word meaning valley] (website access difficult)
  9. "Jai valley" [sic]
  10. "Jaai Valley"
  11. Does not mention
  12. Does not mention
  13. "Chinta and Jai valleys", "Jai Valley"
  14. "Jai Valley"
  15. Does not mention - this source capitalises references to other valleys as follows: "Bhaderwah Valley", "the Valley", "Bhadarwah valley", "Kashmir valley"
  16. "Chinta and Jai valleys" (website access difficult)

A barnstar for you!

  The Copyeditor's Barnstar
Thank you for your precious time and contributions to Sagrika Kissu. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 23:52, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

  Hello I should not be dishonest now to a Beloved Toddy 1. This Is khadim hope you haven't forgotten ,first of all I am apologizing for the words such as who the hell you are to revert my edits and with the harsh words such as wikipedia is not your Father's property

with phelobtimous and many others.you can understand my obsession with my username as Khadim ahlesunnah waljamaah means the servant of pure Sunni islam . and coming again again with new accounts without having any monetary intrest,also previously I was unaware of the wikipedia policy so misjudged you as a Sufi hater or a Wahhabi or may be Deobandi or else .really it was nonsense.But you always forgive me as a your son or your brother (saying because the day when you started editing wikipedia I was in the Kindergarten school may be 5 years old). Not only you had forgiven me but also helped the article Created by me ,Really I am feeling shame on my behavior.

Also very much thankful for your lessons on wikipedia and values of Real life .I remember the day when you had taught me putting my first citation on wikipedia probably on the Barelvi article.and many other virtues to not be hurry will definitely help me in real life .after getting this wonderful Russian Personality in my life I am imagining about the Russian Sufis the Sufis of Chechanya.Thanks a lot with love and respect

From servant of ahlesunnah wal jamaah|} 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4042:e83:be96:3c62:fce:f757:5c36 17:12, 19 June 2020 (UTC) (talk)

You seem to be improving your editing skills with practice. Can I give some advice. There are three possible strategies for dealing with your block:
  1. Ethical. Take a break for 6 months, and then ask for forgiveness and to be unblocked. Advice on how to make this strategy work is given at Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks.
  2. Unethical but cunning. Create a new ID, and use your editing skills on articles that have got nothing to do with the articles you have been editing. Avoid getting into conflicts with other editors as much as possible, and try to avoid editors who know you now (because they are the ones most likely to recognise you). Edit according to policy. Make good edits. Only cite sources that really do back up what you cite them for. After a few months, occasionally make a small useful edit to an article in your current area of interest. Make sure that most of your edits are on different topics. Over time you can gradually increase the proportion of edits in this topic area. Avoid bringing the attention of admins to yourself. Gradually people will forget about your old self. Try to build up a good reputation for your new ID.
  3. Shotgun approach. Create lots of new sockpuppets, and accept that they will get spotted, and people will revert your edits, in some cases, just because they are by a block-evading sockpuppet. Over time the number of people who can spot that an editor is really you will increase, and the number of admins who will use checkuser against suspected socks of you will increase (even when the evidence is trivial). The longer you do this, the harder it will be to achieve your goals.
You are doing No. 3. Maybe you should switch strategy.-- Toddy1 (talk) 16:59, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
If you go for No. 2, you must avoid at all costs logging in on any of your existing accounts. It leaves evidence.-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:06, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Would you like to

Would you like to review this Draft:Jai valley . Waiting for it.— The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 18:40, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

@Toddy1: waiting for a reply. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 04:38, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

A Wikipedia Project page

Hi Toddy1, Hope you are going well. I have started a wikiproject for Chenab Valley, which is a larger region in Jammu and Kashmir, but the articles related to it are mostly stub and they needs improvement. Also many articles which should be on Wikipedia will be discussed there. The Wikipedia:WikiProject Chenab Valley is created by me. I wish you look into it and help me to design the project page. So that I start inviting others on this project to work on it's articles. This will cover all articles related to Chenab Valley, whether people, places or things. Thank you. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 18:27, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Technical Barnstar
lol, thanks to rectify me Majun e Baqi (talk) 10:56, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Burhan Wani

A slain person's father comparing him to Bhagat Singh is not something that should be used to say he has been compared to Bhagat Singh. It is expected that his family will praise him if they think Wani's actions were correct. How is it unconstructive? Comments of non-relatives should be used to say he is compared to a famous person, not his family members. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 04:34, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

If you think what I said is wrong, rewrite the statement. There is no need to remove a source (which is from another author). I have maintained your wording. And please try talking first instead of just deciding to revert if there's an issue. Won't help anyone if you keep reverting me without talking. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 05:10, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Btw 1 or 2 reverts even are nothing serious. All I did was add the citation you removed back, but kept the change to the language you made. At most it may be a partial revert but only to be cooperative. It would be edit warring if I desire to engage in a conflict of reverts which I don't. Nor I intend to revert you again. But I can't say the same for you. If you're going to create impediments instead of cooperating and discussing, it's not going to help anyone. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 05:19, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Waris Ali Shah

  You are invited to join the discussion at Waris Ali Shah. There is a discussion going on Mrs Beroness Warsi to be the desciple of Waris Ali Shah, hope you will look at it Majun e Baqi (talk) 15:43, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Done-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:44, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

An article declined by TheChunky

I am new to wikipedia and am having trouble with an article declined by TheChunky. I cannot understand his/her criticisms and comments or the reason for them. I notice that you have worked with this editor, and that you are a perceptive and very good editor of English. Perhaps you can help me or give me advice.

For example, TheChunky complains about my use of Youtube.com as a citation for a video. But this reference was only to say that a video also contains some of the information cited in the article, it is NOT used as the primary reference for the information.

TheChunky also says the subject, a living person, is not notable, but the subject is a living artist and the Wikipedia standards explicitly say that exhibition in a museum is a suitable criteria for notability for a living artist [this artist has had many museum shows, and solo exhibitions in museums in more than one country].

TheChunky also gives the standard rejection for lack of secondary, reliable sources. This is a short "beginning" article. There are only 13 sources in total. Four are published hardbound books, 3 are articles in periodicals, 1 is in an online magazine that has extensive coverage of the arts [no junk], one is an influential blog covering painting and art [again, definitely no junk], one is a documentary film--all these sources are independent of the person--2 are admittedly minor online sites on artists giving mundane biographical information on artists around the world, and one is the artist's website for his current location and wife's name, for which it is otherwise difficult to guarantee whether the information is current, otherwise, I'll admit this isn't much of a reference. Besides, the content for the latter could be eliminated without damage to the article as a whole.

The article is basically written from the info in the sources and contains all the sources and info I have. It makes no claims for the artist or promotes his work.

Other than eliminating the artist's current location and wife's name, I do not know what to correct in the article to make it publishable in Wikipedia at this time.

Any help in this matter would be much appreciated.

If this is not the correct way to go about getting help, please educate me and forgive my intrustion.

I also submitted help request to the new articles forum [I think, since I'm still new at this I'm not always sure things are going where I think they are going, and cannot find this request after making it ...]. Thank you for your time, even for reading this. Socratesart (talk) 04:20, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

correction: 6 of the sources cited are books. I can't count.Socratesart (talk) 04:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

When you ask people for help, you need to provide links to articles or comments you are talking about. For example, it you want help with Jai Valley, you need to say something like:
"I am new to wikipedia and need help with an article - Jai Valley."
You write a link to an article [[Jai Valley]], this is displayed as Jai Valley.
If you want me to look at reviewer's comments, you need to provide links to where they are.
Please understand that the process of getting an article good enough can take time. Look at the example of Jai Valley. You will see there are reviews and comments on the article talk page, and also comments on the article creator's personal talk page. Have a look at the article's page history - you can see how it developed in response to reviews and comments.
When you are ready, please send links to the draft you are interested in, and to locations where reviews/comments are.
You said something about using videos on Youtube as sources. Please read WP:YOUTUBE.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:15, 6 July 2020 (UTC)


Toddy1 He/she is asking about Draft:Erik Reel, when I reviewed it was not having much reliable references to make it notable. Also it lacks many things. You can check his/her draft. Thank You. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 07:34, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Toddy1 Thank you for help and explanation. Much appreciated. I think I may be a bit confused as to where things are and proper way to reference discussion materials. What you said helps a lot. I can see where it is helpful if all the discussion of an article is with that article or linked (best if in its talk and history?). Sorry about the lack of information on my part. I see that my initial article needed improvements and much better citation work. Working on all that now.
Socratesart Sorry if my action disappointed you, but I didn't intend to disappoint you. I declined not rejected. However, the article have one references in Google News which is added by you there. That's good. But there are not other reliable sources which I think you added there. And for YouTube link, I have added a comment that Creator added YouTube link like promotion, it means you need to see how to cite links as it is a naked reference without title. That was just a suggestion. In general, there were many things to improve in the draft. Improve them and submit request again. Thanks — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 07:47, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Also, my talk page is always open for discussion, you could add a discussion there. I would love to Accept the draft after improvements like reliable sources and others. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 08:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
I am very new at this and perhaps I misunderstood many things. I see how the citations I initially had are not sufficient. I was initially just trying to get things started for a few important artists that are not in Wikipedia. This was about the 3rd or 4th of a long list of projects. One of the problems with this artist, for me, is that I will not be able to be the person to do a lot of the citing because a lot of the potential citations for this artist are not in English, even I assume he is an American English speaker. For example, he is known to be a heavy influence on the asemic and pansemic movements, and even though this movement has a lot of people involved with it in English [the terms were first coined in Australia], the main reference is in Finnish, and none of the references seem to be in English. Yes, the web offers much improved translation services, but I would not be comfortable citing outside English. Other key references to this artist are in Korean, Japanese, German, and Spanish, but I would not be able to handle citations in any of those languages. But I am taking all your comments and trying to come up with a better sourced and [it is hoped] written article in near future. As of today, I feel I have improved the citations and elminated dependence on anything on the artist's site or general sites such as YOUtube [though I still mention that the documentary as mentioning the same topic, but that is neither the central point or reference for that passage. I'm not sure what you mean by "naked" reference to the Youtube citation as the video is cited with author [cinematographer, actually] and Title --or did I miss something?Socratesart (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:12, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Need some help

Hi Toddy1, I have created article on Lal Draman which is another tourist attraction. But it need some copy-editing. Kindly see it. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 02:53, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Criteria for speedy deletion

Would you like to provide some help on various CSD criterias, as I want to learn some minute details from an experienced editorMajun e Baqi (talk) 10:17, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. Are there any that you do not understand?-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:20, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Would it be possible to discuss some cases, so I can be familiarise finelyMajun e Baqi (talk) 10:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Please explain what you want to discuss. It would be sensible to give the case or cases you are interested in, and the criteria that you think might be applicable.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:06, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Case: Jagatsinghpur district Whether it is appropriate to mark it as csd G12Majun e Baqi (talk) 17:03, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

  1. No. This is a page that has existed since 2005. Unless you are saying that Jagatsinghpur district never existed, it would seem sensible for Wikipedia to have an article on it.
  2. If there are copyright infringements, why don't you simply remove them? If you do this, please state the reason in the edit summaries and the site text was copied from.
  3. If you want versions with the copyright infringements revdelled - then ask User: Diannaa for help?
-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
G12 is appropriate when someone creates a new page that is for the most part a copyright infringement. It applies to text pages that contain copyrighted material with no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a compatible free license, where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving. Only if the history is unsalvageably corrupted should it be deleted in its entirety; earlier versions without infringement should be retained. -- Toddy1 (talk) 20:38, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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Treaty of Hudaybiyyah

I guess you can add Treaty of Hudaybiyyah in your watchlist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.111.129.220 (talk) 11:08, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Done.
What you need to do is to use the article talk page to explain why the edit you want is right. This means explaining why the sources support your version better than the other version.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:13, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Prayagraj

Hi! I recently noticed that you made a small change to the page of Allahabad, which was done in very good faith by your side. Adding to this, I would like to clarify that earlier the mention used ‘2 dozen’ which was inaccurate and neither had any reference attached to it. Actually, I studied about this and found out that there is no fixed data pertaining to this, as this metropolitan area has more than fifty state and central offices here, and many new are being currently constructed. So I thought it would be appropriate to write numerous instead of 2 dozen because it didn’t sound good either and neither did the count account for accuracy. I hope you understand. Thanks! Harshv7777 (talk) 08:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I have changed it to "many".-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:47, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! Kind regards! Harshv7777 (talk) 11:59, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Islam in Pakistan

It’s an updated version source are from 2011 Statistics Geography (talk) 15:04, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a policy Wikipedia:Verifiability. Part of this is that: "even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." The source cited in the pie chart says:[7]
If you have a better/different/more recent source and you want to use it to change the figures, you need to cite it. In some cases, where different sources give different figures for the same thing, the best thing to do is to show a range of values, and cite the contradictory sources that back up that range.
The worst thing to do is to change the figures so that they are not supported by the cited source.-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:59, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Help in Wikiproject

Hi Toddy1, Hope you are doing well, I am here asking for help in designing and maintaining Wikipedia:WikiProject Chenab Valley and guide me till I understand how to maintain it, so that I can ask the volunteers who are interested to improve articles related to Chenab valley. It will be great pleasure for me, if you help me in this. I am asking this some other editors too. Thank You. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 05:51, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

@Toddy1: reminder. Please help in designing this Wikiproject. Thanks. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 07:48, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Awantipora

Hi I was checking Awantipora tehsil in Pulwama district and found it have a single source and most of the content are copied from this website and it have 64.8% copied text from it and is possible copyright violation. Check here on Copyvios tool. Thank You. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 06:39, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

I will edit that article later today.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:42, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
The article is on the town. So any data on the subdistrict (tehsil) either needs to be in a separate section of the article, or in a separate article.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:18, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
It was a struggle to make sense of land area data for Pulwama district.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:18, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
I have not forgotten. It is going to take time.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

I have done a rewrite, using sources I could find.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:46, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I have also created two redirects Awantipora tehsil and Awantipora Tehsil.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:46, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Check out please

Hi, hope you are good, I have created Draft:Sharjeel Imam who is an Anti-CAA law protester and arrested on January 28. Kindly look into it. Should I move it main space or not. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)

Each of the cases mentioned in Draft:Sharjeel Imam#Cases filed by different states needs at least one citation.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:15, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Though the correct meaning of the following sentence is obvious, strictly speaking there is an error:
  • He was charged with sedition case by five states of India[4] and arrested on 28 January 2020 by Delhi Police alleging that his speech promoted enmity among people that led riots in Jamia Millia Islamia University.
The word "alleging" is a gerund. As written it means that when he (Imam) was arrested, Imam was alleging.... Of course you don't mean that. You mean that Dehli Police were alleging.
I will fix it for you.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:20, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

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Language speakers tables

Hi Toddy1, I see you adding language speakers tables to several pages. While the data is valuable, I think it needs to be condensed more. Otherwise it would seem like an instance of WP:INDISCRIMINATE. You might try making a pi3 chart, if you can figure out how, or, if it is a table, cut out rows less than a certain percentage. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:50, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

That is exactly what I did. If we take for example Uttarakhand.
  • The census table in the original has 315 rows, all of which have non-zero number of people.
  • There are 100 rows of a language classification which groups by language family.
  • There are 216 rows of an individual language classification (this includes 38 rows of language family "others").
  • The row with language code 124000 (meaning others) is common to both categorisations.
At Uttarakhand#Demographics this is condensed to 17 rows (including others) plus a total row. The trimming mechanism I used was to include under "others" all individual languages in the original that had less people than would be rounded to 0.1% (i.e. 0.05%).
A key point though, is that there are a huge range of people of different mother tongues (1st languages).
You will notice that the table are collapsable - so they could all be set to default as collapsed.-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:21, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
A problem with the pie charts when the source for the data consist of Indian Census Excel tables is that it is often quite hard to verify them (particularly as pie charts are frequently vandalised by people who insert their own made up numbers). If you quote absolute numbers of people (which is what the source does) and specify what is meant, then calculating a percentage is basic arithmetic, which is allowed (see WP:CALC).-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:42, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I understand. A pie chart along with a collapsible table would seem to be the ideal solution. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:58, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

1967

Thank you for adding new sources. I’ve been trying that for months. Some people are not happy to see this so expect reverts. This page played a crucial role in Indian propaganda and they even made a movie about it. Just by reading the info written on this page. YuukiHirohiko (talk) 01:21, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

I do not expect reverts. I made two very small changes:
  • Made the Chinese ORRBAT in the infobox clear.
    • I did this after explaining on the talk page why I wanted to do it. And waited until until the party who had disagreed with your edit had replied. His/her reply did not include any objection to that particular point. So I made an edit fixing just that, and then did no more edits until the editor in question had posted a message partially agreeing to another of my suggestions on the talk page.
  • Put CCF claims for each side's casualties into the infobox.
    • Again this was done after explaining on the talk page what I wanted to do and why I wanted to do it. And I only implemented that part of what I proposed that the other editor stated that he/she agreed to.
    • You will note that the same wording is used for each side, and that the order is own side first. Nobody can complain that the other side's point of view is being given precedence. You wrote "Chinese sources... India claimed...", which implied that Chinese information was factual and accurate and Indian information was not. You would need very good sources to write like that.
-- Toddy1 (talk) 05:42, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Districts of India

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Thank you for acknowledging my edits of Pulwama district and Kargil district, and for following up with other districts of India by closing the <small> tag with <small>. During my fifth edit of this group of articles, I noticed more errors and went back and fixed those as well, as you may have noticed:

  • As explained at WP:HTML 5, table alignment should be upgraded to HTML5-compliant, and that means changing:
    • align=xxx to style="text-align:xxx;" (final semicolon optional)
    • valign=top to style="vertical-align:top;" (final semicolon optional)
  • hyphens in ranges of dates should be en dash, e.g. 2001-2002 should be 2001–2002; this is the first character in the "Insert" menu below the editing field
  • clauses beginning with "which", "when", and "who" should be preceded by a comma if the clause is nonrestrictive
    • Give me the banana that is the ripest. ("that is the ripest" is a restrictive clause.)
    • She ate a banana, which is a fruit high in potassium. ("which is a fruit high in potassium" is a non-restrictive clause.)
    • We need to select which student will win the award. (no comma.)
  • Omit "on" before dates where possible: The Declaration of Independence was signed July 4, 1776. But: On July 4, 1776, the Declaration of Independence was signed.
  • Hyphens for negative numbers should be minuses: −3 °C
  • The template {{Official website}} should be used where possible, and it should usually be the first external link.
  • Use straight apostrophe ('), not curly apostrophe (’).
  • Newspapers, magazines, and books in italics.
  • <ref> should not be preceded by space.
  • period, comma, and other punctuation before, not after, <ref>...</ref>.

Would you like to take over for me and edit the rest of these India district articles and fix these sorts of things? —Anomalocaris (talk) 01:29, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020

  Hello, I'm Wtmitchell. I wanted to let you know that one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Gola Gokarannath— has been undone because it appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thank you. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 15:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Would I be correct in thinking that all the many IP edits to that page posting https://golatourism.com were by you?-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:27, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Prayagraj

Hi, I would like to bring to your kind notice that a certain user named Kashmiri, has made edits to page Prayagraj that appears to be affecting the whole neutrality of the article. I do not intend to name any user in particular, I just need to bring to light some particular edits, done consequently one after one, that has changed some of the long standing status of the page. Firstly, the user removed the metropolis status off the page stating that it isn’t really a metropolis, without providing any reference to the edit made, while the Census commission states those cities which are in prominence, centred, administrative headquarters which have a population more than one million, and the population is already referenced. Secondly, the edits made to the officer demonyms or titles (IAS and IPS) is clearly incorrect as here in wiki pages in Indian cities, it is always followed by the officer’s affiliation to the service. The page, also in comparison to other cities, was stable and I think these edits are somewhere not appropriate. Kindly look into this. Thank you. Harshv7777 (talk) 16:50, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Please could you explain your objections to his/her edits at Talk:Allahabad.
I do not understand why this edit was done. Though the edit summaries explain it: (1) Not really a metropolis (2) Rm non-existing or unused demonyms (3) rm titles (4) again, I am not much the wiser. If only you had posted something on the lines above on the article talk page and reverted his/her edit, it could have been fixed.
If you want to fight the case for the officer demonyms or titles (IAS and IPS), why not use the the article talk page to explain why they should be in the infobox? If nobody objects during the next 24 hours, I suggest that you restore them to the infobox. If somebody does object, see if you can get them to explain why they object, and then go with what the majority agrees to.
Regarding metropolis, I looked at the article on the subject and saw that it had a useful citation. Unfortunately the cited reliable source did not mention the word "metropolis", so it cannot be used to justify calling anywhere a metropolis. It did define "megacity" and gave a list of three urban areas that were megacities in the 2011 census. There is a source https://www.census2011.co.in/census/metropolitan/87-allahabad.html, which would be useful - but Wikipedia's software has been set up to block adding this source to articles and talk pages. I do not know why.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:00, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

No Dear Toddy1, I have no intention to get involved in any conflicts with any user. I know and understand that he might have done that in good faith, I just would like you to only revert back the metropolis status of the page since the population of the city is exceeding one million, and it is a city of importance, I do not ask you or intend to add anything, I just want neutral data to be restored back. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harshv7777 (talkcontribs) 19:19, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

But the only reliable source I have for it being a metropolitan area (or maybe that it is part of a metropolitan area) is one on a Wikipedia blacklist.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:27, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi Toddy, Here is the Government Urban and Environmental Studies website on the city. Under Chapter 2, City profile, section 2.3.1 it clearly says ” Allahabad city comes under Allahabad metropolitan area along with Cantonment board and urban outgrowths. Population of metropolitan area is 12,16,719. Male constitutes 655,734 and female constitutes 560,985 of the total population.” http://mohua.gov.in/upload/uploadfiles/files/19UP_Allahabad_sfcp-min.pdf Harshv7777 (talk) 19:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Precisely, on page number 14, section 2.3.1. Thank you. Harshv7777 (talk) 19:36, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes, this is useful - but there is a problem.
The infobox has a label "Metro", which is a common name for an underground railway system. But for some mad reason, if you click on the link it is for Metropolitan area, and the infobox quotes the number you mentioned. So, it is already in the infobox, though badly labelled. The numbers also make it clear that the metropolitan area has a larger population than the city.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:41, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

I have posted the last three posts onto the article talk page. It seems a more useful place to put it.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:47, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Toddy1! Harshv7777 (talk) 19:50, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Kashmiri has reverted my edits, although he hasn’t participated in the talk page. You know this is not good toddy. Kindly help in this. I have provided the references, and whether it is appropriate or inappropriate should be subjected to the matter on talk page. You are a very experienced editor, we look up to you in these matters. Harshv7777 (talk) 06:48, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
@Harshv7777: I am trying to build up a section for the article at User talk:Toddy1/Sandbox1. -- Toddy1 (talk) 17:47, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I have found appropriate reference according to what you said earlier. Kindly head to talk page of Allahabad please! Thanks. Harshv7777 (talk) 17:51, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

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Кацап

У тебе каца3,14здото баяра закінчилася, що ти сюди приперло, чухонець немитий? Тягни ноги в свою дєрєвню Жопіно, і там смерди, дєрєвнщіна ти оббльована.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.8.4.25 (talk) 05:03, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

WP:CLAIM

That's not the point Toddy. We present the evidence neutrally and let the reader decide and don't use loaded terminology. Spicemix (talk) 10:52, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

You seem to think that WP:CLAIM says "do not write "claim". It does not. You should read the policy more carefully.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:51, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

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Regarding AwareEarth

Sir,

   With due respect we want to state that, First We were trying to add the internal link of AwareEarth Wikipedia page in that edit but unfortunately it's not there on Wikipedia. So, we were compelled to add an external link in order to provide detailed information about the Organization.

So, we will request you to provide the proper resolution for that. Looking forward to hear from you.

Kind Regards Abhay Singh AwareEarth AwarEarth (talk) 04:10, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia policy is that "if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article". See Wikipedia:Notability. Have a look also at WP:WHYN.
After reading these, do you still think that there should be an article on the company? If the answer is yes, please have a go at creating the article at Draft:AwareEarth. You will need to cite reliable sources against facts. If you look at an example article Safoora Zargar you will see how it is done. I have put some instructions on how to do citations below:
Here is an example citation.[1] The code for this is:
<ref>{{cite | url=http://www.tribstar.com/news/local_news/mayor-maintains-he-did-not-violate-little-hatch-act-in/article_f4b8889d-af27-58ef-b6ea-f3f42dcf191b.html |title=Mayor maintains he did not violate Little Hatch Act in seeking office |first1=Arthur E. |last1=Foulkes |date=19 November 2008 |work=[[Tribune-Star]]}}</ref>
  • You mark a citation with <ref> at the start, and </ref> at the end.
  • The citation uses a template to help you format it correctly. Instructions for this template can be found at Template:Citation
  • The start of the template call is marked with {{, the end of the template call is marked with }}
  • You start by giving the name of the template - in this case "cite".
  • The various elements are separated with "|" markers. It makes it easier to understand if you put a space character next to this.
  • First1 and Last1 are the author's first and last names. If there are many authors, you enter the second author using First2 and Last2
  • In the example, Title is the title of the newspaper article. It can be the title of a book. The title should be an exact copy in the original language.
  • If the article title is not in English, there is a field called "trans-title" you can use for an English translation of the title.
  • url is the URL
  • The citation is to a newspaper - so work = the title of the newspaper. Because Wikipedia has an article on that newspaper, we put the name of the article in double square brackets to link to it.
  • Date is the date of the newspaper article, or the year the book was published (if citing a book).
  • If the access-date field is used, it says when the editor accessed the URL. This can be useful if the URL later dies, because we know when the URL worked.
  • If you want to use the citation in different places in the article then instead of starting <ref>, start <ref name=tribstar19Nov08>. "tribstar19Nov08" is a name that I invented based on the URL and the date of the article. If you want to use the same citation in another place in the article, you then place <ref name=tribstar19Nov08/> in the second place, and it will show the citation in both places. Notes the "/" character, which does not appear in the place you defined the citation.
If you make some mistakes, I will try to help.

-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:18, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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Hey Toddy1!

I'm Costontine21, recently you undid an edit of mine. And I don't hate that, I understand that some things need to be peer reviewed and you have a lot more experience under your belt regarding Wikipedia in general. But I noticed that you have undone several people's contributions to the page recently. I republished the changes I made because it made a more consistent formatting with the topic sentence, as the previous seemed to be a wee confusing. But if you have any suggestions as to why we should keep your revisions please make them! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Costontine21 (talkcontribs) 00:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Which bit of "It was better before" did you not understand?-- Toddy1 (talk) 02:18, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Also, if you are going to leave messages on other users' talk pages, it is probably a good idea to say what page you are referring to (1979 oil crisis).-- Toddy1 (talk) 02:21, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Comma Usage With Quotes in English

Toddy1 - the source you sent me is only one opinion in how commas are used in English regarding quotations. As you see, from the MLA website, commas go inside quotation marks at ALL times. MLA is one of our standards for writing:

The MLA Handbook notes, “By convention, commas and periods that directly follow quotations go inside the closing quotation marks” (88). Thus, in the following sentence, the comma is placed after taught:

   “You’ve got to be carefully taught,” wrote Oscar Hammerstein II.

The rule is the same for a list of titles:

   Julio Cortázar wrote many short stories, including “La noche boca arriba,” “Casa tomada,” and “Babas del diablo.”[1]


It is also a more up-to-date manual than the 1980s one you used as it is updated every year. Vintagesounds1991 (talk) 21:09, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

About topic bans

Hi, Toddy. About your request at User talk:Dr2Rao: I'm a little dubious about applying Dr2Rao's topic ban to their putative sockpuppeteer. The SPI, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Souniel Yadav, isn't decisive enough for that IMO — there's no CU evidence, for instance. So I'd rather not. I don't think you need to worry too much about Souniel Yadav being unblocked going forward, because if they are, and then go on to edit anything like Dr2Rao, they will very soon either be reblocked or deserve a topic ban of their own. Feel free to remind me of this prediction if SY does get unblocked, and I'll be watching like a hawk. Bishonen | tålk 14:22, 22 September 2020 (UTC).

Thanks for the explanation.
Unfortunately, the data for checkuser is only held for 90 days. I had not realised that when I asked for a checkuser in the SPI. (I had misremembered the time the data was held for as about 6 months instead of about 3 months.) It is a pity that people who were editing the article on Sonia Gandhi in May did not notice the similarity in behaviour and put in an SPI then.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:40, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

 

Another kitty to keep you company.

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The Wire (India)

I edited The Wire (India). But you keep reverting my edits. You mentioned I didnt cite the Source. However I given the citaion and the source is Alt News. Didnt you find the citation?— Preceding unsigned comment added by JoJo Rabbit11 (talkcontribs) 05:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

The source you cited was :Chaudhary, Pooja (30-10-2019). "UP govt approved estimated budget of Rs 1.33 cr NOT Rs 133 cr for 'Deepotsav'; media misreports". alt News. alt news. Pravda Media Foundation. Retrieved 5 October 2020. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help) This did not have a clear statement that The Wire has published fake news.-- Toddy1 (talk) 05:23, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
However It did mention the word "misreport". And the same has been corrected . — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoJo Rabbit11 (talkcontribs) 05:32, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
The source cited supports that on one occasion, nearly every mainstream news organisation (including The Wire) reported a figure as 133 when it should have been 1.33. To go from that to a claim that "The website has published fake news" or "The wire published misleading reports" is not justified by the source.-- Toddy1 (talk) 05:43, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Connotated/connoted

Hi Toddy1,

although I'm not a native speaker of English, I believe that the word "connotated" doesn't exist (although there exists the word "connotation"). See Merriam-Webster. I've therefore reverted your reversion of my edit in Concubinage again. (I've noticed that the caption given by the uploader says "connotated", but nevertheless...)

Regards --Cyfal (talk) 11:26, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

There is an English-language verb "connotate".-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:24, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Do you have any sources for your claim? Here another link where it's marked as "obsolete". As native German speaker, I ususally use LEO, there I can also find only rumours that this verb exist. The verb is actually connote, not connotate. Regards Cyfal (talk) 12:45, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't notice your modification of Concubinage - thus this question is no longer important. Regards --Cyfal (talk) 12:51, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

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Help Needed

Hi dear, I'm new on Wikipedia. I want to become an active participant on the platform. Because I want to update and participate in articles related to my country. I am teaching in a government school, I'm looking for guidance. If you can help me, It will be helpful for me. Thanks in advance.Aarnabutt (talk) 11:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Try reading books and government reports, and using the information in them to improve articles.
Another approach is to try to fill gaps. If you look at the 04:56, 5 September 2020 (UTC) version of the article on Dharwas, you can see there was a paragraph like this:
The place is famous for the natural mineral water spring known as Tilmili. The trek trail leading to Sural Valley of Pangi starts from Dharwas and then goes up to Zanskar. The Pangi Valley is the most remote valley of Chamba district, and according to Dr. Hutchison, "unique in its grandeur and beauty."[citation needed]
The [citation needed] tag meant that Wikipedia needed a citation for this quotation. What I did was to search on the internet for the quotation from Dr. Hutchison. When I found it, I realised that a much fuller quotation could be added, provided it was given proper attribution. This is why the article has the longer quotation that you and several other new editors have mistakenly tried to "correct".-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:29, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, is there any special educational courses designed by Wikipedia to understand the rules and regulation of Wikipedia, for article expansion, references improvement and such things. Also, guide me about edit summery.Aarnabutt (talk) 18:00, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes. And I sent you links to it on your talk page at 11:20, 25 October 2020 (UTC). Press the big blue button at talk.-- Toddy1 (talk) 18:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Need a small help

Hi Toddy! After months, on the page of Allahabad, user Kashmiri has again changed the term “metropolis” to city, without any discussion on talk page, or giving any reasons, or attaching suitable references to support his/her claim, just saying ‘it is a city’, which is ridiculous, a long long discussion has been made already and much references have already been added. You’re an experienced editor, can you please look into this again? Thank you. Harshv7777 (talk) 17:29, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

The article talk page is the right place for this - see Talk:Allahabad#October/November 2020 discussion.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:00, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Request to review

I am requesting you to review the Draft:Logi Boitha Movement article. 45.125.220.162 (talk) 12:25, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

I have made some amendments. I have written on the talk page that I think that it should be called the Logi Boitha rally.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:57, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your response and attention. 45.125.220.162 (talk) 18:44, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

November 2020

Hi, Toddy1. I can understand your impulse here, but I honestly think it would be better not to tease the user. Bishonen | tålk 20:11, 6 November 2020 (UTC).

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Govt. Science College, Chatrapur

You said I: - removed citations (there were 2 when I started and 2 when I finished. What are you talking about?) - add random characters (don't see any) I'm happy to fix any problems I create, but I'm mystified. Lfstevens (talk) 17:53, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Lfstevens: Govt. Science College, Chatrapur is a problem page because it is one that is frequently used by people either for editing practice or for bringing their number of edits up to a level that will get them autoconfirmed.
I got it partially wrong in my edit summary. It was based on my faulty perception. I am sorry.
pls do not remove citations. From the diff it looked like you were removing the citation from the paragraph describing the college. But I was wrong; you did not delete a citation.
You did something similar because you changed one paragraph with a citation at the end into two paragraphs in different sections, only one of which had the citation. I thought that the citation covered all the contents of the original paragraph. I have now had a look at the citation - I had to look at a web-archive to access it - eurokidschatrapur.in - the citation is to a website for a primary-school and is therefore irrelevant. If the citation had been a good citation, the right thing for you to have done when you split the paragraph would have been to put the citation at the end of both paragraphs. It is usually best to check citations when you do this, to find out what they actually support.
add random characters. In the infobox you changed
to
The "<" seemed a random character to me.
-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:49, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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From time to time you would appear on my user page insisting that Georgia is actually part of Europe. This, needless to say, appears an odd position to take and is indeed puzzling to any knowledgeable geographer or navigator. I'm wondering if, several years later, you have been able to sort out whether or not Georgia (situated between Turkey and Russia) is actually part of the Caucusus (as stated in Wikipedia), or do you, like many English persons, continue to see Georgia as part of Europe? Santamoly (talk) 23:05, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

The above posting is a clear breach of the topic ban at User talk:Santamoly#Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction.-- Toddy1 (talk) 23:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Jammu And Kashmir

India Government Order please change jamming and Kashmir map. At last government cash on Wikipedia. TheHenry123 (talk) 02:02, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Faizabad district/division

While I understand your rationale behind this edit summary, letting a phrase like "officially XYZ" has the potential of a snow ball effect. I mean, in every article we'll have things like "XYZ is a place near Ayodhya, which is in the Faizabad district (officially Ayodhya district) in the Faizabad division (officially Ayodhya division) and has direct connectivity to ABC town in Allahabad district (officially Prayagraj district....)".. Too many extra info in the brackets. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:46, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Sometimes, it is better to be a willow that bends with the wind, than an oak tree that holds firm until one day the wind blows it over.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:56, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

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Edit warring

refrain from edit warring as you did on NDTV. Recurrence will invite sanctions.JoJo Rabbit11 (talk) 08:30, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Please go to WP:ANI and make a report then.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:31, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Your edits are promotional

Plz refer [[8]]. It seems like you are in favour of maintaining the tag line "Experience. Truth First" in the header in page NDTV, and at one occasion you have reverted the deletion of tag line "Experience. Truth First" in the header in page NDTV However purpose of any tag line of any organization is to promote its brand. And promotions are not be allowed on wiki page. newslinger you would like to go through this talk on NDTV page. Yours opinion requested45.124.142.19 (talk) 10:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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  One has to love the way that people who would like us to believe that they are new editors seem to know things like {{u|newslinger}}, can cite lots of policies (sometimes correctly), and even know which admins to ask for.
Stating the organisation's slogan is not promotional. It is simply a matter of stating facts about the organisation.11:29, 20 December 2020 (UTC)-- Toddy1 (talk)
45.124.142.19 is obviously an indeffed user evading their block. Blocked as such by RegentsPark. Bishonen | tålk 16:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC).

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December 2020

Hey, Hope you are well, I am Peerzada Mohammad Iflaq Thankyou for replying to my edit on page Kishtwar, I have edited the page and removed "of india", that seemed to be not fitting there, as there was already a mention of India. It seemed to be a typo that is why i have summarized it as "fixed typo". If you think that really is against the terms of wikipedia I will be correcting my mistake and keep this in mind for further edits. Kindly let me know at my talk page. Syed Iflaq (talk) 10:52, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

A typographical error is something like putting a "y" in the middle of your name because I pressed the wrong key by mistake.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:31, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


  • I really appreciate your response. Thankyou for letting me know. I will keep this in mind.

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AfC decline

Hi Toddy1, Just came through Draft:Tariq Masood where you declined it manually but I guess you do not have access to AfC reviewing, right? Don't know if your decline was fine or not? You should try requesting for AfC flag. Regards, ─ The Aafī (talk) 17:06, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

@TheAafi: The relevant sequence of events is as follows (requester in red, reviewer in blue):
-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:18, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Toddy1, yes I get that completely but I'm talking about a different issue. Since this was an AfC draft, and the reviewer would there mean an "AfC volunteer" defo which you are not. It could've been better if you had just tried to fix the issues as you did in the third diff indicated above, and left the draft for an AfC volunteer for review. WP:AFC/P explicitly notes it that Editors whose usernames are not on the list are strongly cautioned not to review AfC submissions. This is the thing I highlighted above. I've had a great time with you in past and this is why I asked you to get AfC flag so that you can genuinely review AfC submissions. ─ The Aafī (talk) 20:38, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Oh. I did not know that I was not allowed to do AfC reviews.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:42, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
I should add that I would not have known about the issues I fixed if I had not done the review.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Toddy1, It is okay. I've requested AfC flag for you. Once it is done, you can install the AfC script in the Preferences section of your account. ─ The Aafī (talk) 20:54, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Wahbi

 

Hello, Toddy1. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Wahbi".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 20:42, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

If you look at Talk:Wahbi you will understand the history of all this. I did not create the article, all I did was to give the IP editor a chance to develop his/her text. But he/she did not bother.-- Toddy1 (talk) 23:00, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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Alexander the great

I have pinged you in requested moves of Alexander the Great to Alexander. 103.67.157.110 (talk) 15:45, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Kashmir Valley

Warning : The page, though being a source of Geography of Kashmir Valley cannot omit the underlying Geopolitics of the vale in accord to Kashmir Conflict. The mentioning of Kashmir Conflict on this picture has also been issued in public interest.Similarly, As mentioned in the 'infox' as for example : " Union territory of India". The above references for either 'Kashmir Conflict' or 'Union territory of India' can't be overlooked. Musadiq Mushtaq (talk) 23:50, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

You need to get consensus on the article talk page.-- Toddy1 (talk) 05:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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Kindly check this

Hi, hope you are going well, I am back on wiki now. I started with writing wikipedia about a notable wrestler who is the first professional wrestler from Jammu and Kashmir and I have used Draft submission process. Kindly look at this draft.

Draft:Badshah Khan (wrestler)

Kindly review, if there is any mistake, kindly guide me.

Thank You. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) 13:09, 28 January 2021‎ (UTC)

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Thankyou for the advice

Thankyou for your advice. I am not experienced in dealing with suspected socks. Thats why I did like that. I appreciate your effort of passing me the knowledge regarding this. I am a user who learns from mistake and will try to improve. Regards Kichu🐘 Discuss 12:23, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Toddy, you might help with sorting the links on Zeyan Shafiq

I've added many organic references to Zeyan Shafiq, I'm on a mobile right now with no access to computer ATM. Maybe you could sort the references on the page, it looks very messy right now. Also you could remove the third party unreliable sources. The article should be kept in my opinion because it has recieved significant coverage. It should rather be edited and the references should be removed.if you could do it, it'd be great otherwise I'll contribute tomorrow. 2409:4050:E9B:4CE2:495C:1A7D:80DB:8083 (talk) 23:29, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

The purpose of citations (references) is to support the text. i.e. If the text says that "his father, Shafiq Ul Hassan, is a software engineer", there should be a citation next to it that supports the statements that his father is called Shafiq Ul Hassan and is a software engineer. So going around deleting (what you consider) less reliable sources is not necessarily a good idea.
In one place in the lead it says:
and started Stalwart Esports in 2020 to promote India in competitive esports.[2][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13]
Having ten citations for a single statement known as cite bombing. Three citations would be better, but they must actually support the statement they are cited for (eight of them did not). If you want to stick loads of new citations in an article, you should use the new citations to support new text in the article.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
@2409:4050:E9B:4CE2:495C:1A7D:80DB:8083: In the article on Zeyan Shafiq, it gives his date of birth as 21 July 2002. The source for that is his company's website.
But the following sources, say that Zeyan Shafiq was 13 when Kashbook was created in 2013:
Clearly there is an error. Was it that KashBook was created in 2015?-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
@Abhayesports: I realise that (for now) the article on Zeyan Shafiq has been deleted, but please could you try to find out what the error was in the two newspaper articles.
  • Was Kashbook created in 2015? (i.e. 2013 was an error.)
  • Or was Kashbook created in 2013 (i.e. giving Zeyan Shafiq's age as 13 was the error.)
I imagine that there will be future news stories about Zeyan Shafiq in mainstream media, and when that happens the stories would justify rebuilding the article on him.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:55, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello Tod, Sorry for the late reply. I skipped this notification earlier.
Shafiq was 11 when he started working on kashbook, not 13. Check This Article., it’s written that he learnt HTML at age 11 which means he was 11 year old in 2013 when he started working on Kashbook’s first version. Later released the first version in 2015(as per above quoted articles by you and eventually the public release was in 2017( most of the articles have this date). So news agencies writing that he was 13 y.o in 2013 when he released kashbook is wrong. Moreover, i am still reading the guidelines so I can’t really work on rebuilding the article at this moment, because it’d make no sense posting the same article which was deleted earlier. Warm Regards.Abhayesports (talk) 19:06, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

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Budgam district

Hello Toddy, I noticed you recently reverted edits by AmirUlGhulaam asking him to add a source. That information was correct. But I'm here to ask you, will the official website of Budgam district (budgam.nic.in/blocks) be considered a reliable source or not? I would like to add that information again. Anyway, happy editing! –Hulgedtalk⟩ 09:26, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the information at the official site of Budgam district (budgam.nic.in) is reliable as it's governed by the Government office 223.239.28.148 (talk) 09:57, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for providing a citation. I have restored the information added by AmirUlGhulaam with a citation to the source you offered. I also amended the existing text (the text backed by the existing citation) to make it clear that that refered to the situation in 2008 and not the present day.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:23, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, regarding tag vandalism on Stalwart.

Hello, I’m not sure if i am able or if i should revert the Tag’s on Stalwart Esport pages but i do feel like they’re being put up as a part of vandalism.(last many edit history’s show addition and removal of tag’s). Since being in a COI, I’m restricted to do it and since you’ve thanked me for earlier revert’s so I’d like to ask you to resolve the multiple issues that the page is facing. I’m just trying to improve the page to it’s best version and please feel free to remove anything which you might feel promotional but I’ve already noticed via the edit history that it has been cleaned up couple of times and has been trimmed to just display the normal information, I don’t understand how does it fall into the red flag notices haha, even the rosters were removed. So toddy, if you can check this and see if this requires something more or not would be great considering your 14 years on wikipedia and hence the experience.
Warm Regards
Abhayesports (talk) 01:23, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

  I feel that way too. But the tags are justified and the editor is in good-standing. See Wikipedia:Vandalism, which makes it clear that the edit we do not like is not vandalism.
Let us look at the tags, and what could be done to remove them:
  • {{Orphan}} In the Wikipedia glossary, an orphan is defined as "an article with no links from other pages in the main article namespace". So put links to the article on Stalwart Esports into other articles, wait a week, and if the links are still there, remove the orphan tag.
  • {{Fanpov}} The article contains stuff like the roster that is important to fans of eSports, but is otherwise of no significance. People call that kind of stuff "fancruft". If reliable, mainstream, third-party sources can be used as citations for something, it can be defended quite easily. Currently the roster is uncited. If the only citations you could find for it are either (i) the company website, or (ii) specialist eSports magazines/websites, then you have to accept that it looks like "fan point-of-view" is justified. I do not know whether the roster should be kept or removed; but it does look like something only a fan of eSports would care about.
  • {{COI}} The person who created the article claimed to have a conflict of interest. I am not sure whether he/she was telling the truth. He/she may have been trying to making him/herself sound more important than they were. You have declared a conflict of interest. The sock accounts/IP addresses who argue for the article's deletion also appear to have a conflict of interest, since they seem to be motivated by a grudge against the company's owner.
My advice is to edit a wider range of articles. If all you do is to make edits related to Stalwart Esports and its owner, sooner or later someone will find an excuse to get you blocked. (See WP:NOTHERE.) Editing a wider range of articles will make you a better editor and build up evidence that you are here to build an encyclopaedia.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:43, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Nice Explanation, So Let's start with Orphan:- I'll try to find relatable article's and link stalwart there.
FANPOV, There's a roster of freefire, @Alyo: can give a better idea, I'll remove the freefire roster as for now, so that there are no unreliable sources.
The COI has been removed.
How do you manage to be so calm and explain things so properly here,haha. Thanks Again.
Warm Regards. Abhayesports (talk) 08:36, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Toddy1, Hey, i tried working on the orphan tag and Fanpov tag. i added stalwart's links in mainspace to where ever it was suitable to unorphan it, waited for a week and then removed the tag from stalwart's page.
For FANPOV, i removed the FreeFire roster which wasn't reliable sourced. i can't see anything else there which could be unsourced or from Fan POV. can you help with it and give it a check and remove the unsourced material?
For COI, i have no idea why that tag is there because as per WP:COI the article has been edited multiple times by other distinct editors.
I can't figure these things out, could you mind helping me out? Abhayesports (talk) 12:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I can figure it out. Wikipedia:Don't take the bait.-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Toddy1, My Bad, I might have made uncivil comments, i accept that. but it was not intentional, i removed them immediately after you let me know. Also i didn't ask you to help me with the discussion. i was just asking that the points that i've mentioned are they correct or am i wrong, That's it. If i am wrong please tell me what are the policies i should read for these tag's. Thanks :) Abhayesports (talk) 13:12, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks for all those thanks lol, idk why but makes me happy lmao. Just FYI, I’ve recieved 8 thanks and 7 are your’s haha. -Warm Regards--Abhay EsportsTalk To Me 14:45, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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Just a note

I've reverted your addition to Tariq Masood because the piece didn't belong there. Dr Tariq Masood and Mufti Tariq Masood are different. Mufti Tariq Masood doesn't teach in the formal colleges, but in a "non-government" madrasa, Jamiatur Rasheed, and hence is not a college professor either. Thanks. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 17:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Would you be prepared to do some work on a draft article?

@Abhayesports: Would you be prepared to develop a draft article in which you have absolutely no conflict of interest whatsoever? I came across a draft article today on an educational institution in a neighbouring country, that needs someone to develop it. I am not sure whether that would be enough to enable it to move from draft-space to main-space.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:55, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Toddy1, Toddy1, I’ll be very honest, i would love to but I’d require your assistance. I don’t have enough knowledge about schools, if it would’ve been anything related to esports or gaming I’d have done it on my own. I’m currently working on Guild Esport draft. If you can help along, I’d do it. Share the link. -Warm Regards--Abhay EsportsTalk To Me 10:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
The draft article is: Draft:Jamia Tur Rasheed, Karachi.
  • There is already an article on Tariq Masood who is a professor at Jamia Tur Rasheed (I am not sure whether he is the only professor there).
A Google search[9] shows some hits to proper sources. I think most of the sources mention it in passing. They have snippets of information that could be built into the article. For example this one says of Muhammad Husain Khaleel Khail "He is associated with Jamia-tur-Rasheed, Karachi as a senior Mufti in Darul Iftaa and lecturer in department of Fiqhul Muaamlaat." Whoever did the website did not check it properly - it has white writing on a white background. I had to select the text to reveal it. If you click on the "News" tab of the google search you get a useful article.[10]-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:07, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Toddy1, Bro, This appears to be an madrasa not an school. I don't think i can add usefull information to this. i'm a hindu, i don't have enough knowledge about muslim schools. I thought earlier it was a normal school. my bad. -Warm Regards--Abhay EsportsTalk To Me 12:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
One of the great things about Wikipedia is that it gives people an opportunity to expand their knowledge by researching things they did not know much about. But is up to you.
One of the problems on Wikipedia is that there are editors who think they know a lot about a subject. They write articles or edit articles adding what they think is true. They do not bother with sources. But Wikipedia needs articles that are verifiable, so it needs editors who base what they write on what sources say.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:42, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
And by the way, we all screw up some of the time. You can see from the bottom section of this page, I assumed that two people who are both claimed to be professors in Karachi were the same person. They are not. But another editor spotted my error and reverted it, leaving me an explanation. I was able to do some more searches that showed that the other editor was correct.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:44, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021

 
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Reverting the official name of city of Prayagraj to its earlier name

You are mistaken Toddy in your assumption that Prayagraj is an unofficial name and Allahabad is a common name. That is not true and maybe because you do not live in India, you are unaware. I request you put in my changes. Bullishkid (talk) 06:57, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Since you posted much the same stuff at User talk:Bullishkid I have replied there.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:16, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Why you remove latest update from AIMIM Wikipedia

Why you remove latest update from AIMIM Wikipedia edited by me ۔that is suitable update with source than what is the problem ? Please add those update on AIMIM Wikipedia as soon as possible Jzsmart (talk) 10:05, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

I explained in the edit summary. Since you clearly did not read it, I have explained again on your talk page.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

  The Writer's Barnstar
Thank you for letting me know of my mistake :). Appreciate it a lot. Benifiter2000 (talk) 15:18, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Two is company, three is a crowd

Re [11], I almost filed standalone as well due to the AfD. However User:Bonadea beat us to the punch. You should probably remove the 13 July section and comment on the 7 July section.--Eostrix  (🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 12:35, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I have done as you asked. When I filed the report I had not spotted that Nakshathra Nair was mentioned at the bottom of the bottom of the list of IPs in the 7 July report.-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:38, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Cite check

Can you please check this link is reliable or not? [12] ~ Itsskv08 (talk) 13:00, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Try asking at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:42, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks ~ Itsskv08 (talk) 13:43, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Sock case

Hi, you seem to have a good knowledge over sock investigations. Can you please help me with filing an investigation report? What are the steps and requirements please? --Bringtar (talk) 14:17, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

With your level of experience and competence, it would be best if you did not. The instructions are at WP:SPI - you would need to follow them carefully - but my advice is to leave it alone. Bringing retaliatory sockpuppet investigations is typical of sockpuppet editors. If User:A and User:C are the same person, let somebody else raise it. This advice is partly to help you to avoid making yourself look guilty, and partly because I think you would mess up the SPI against User:A and User:C, making it harder for other people to bring a successful SPI against them.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:51, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Okay as you suggested. --Bringtar (talk) 17:04, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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Suggestion please

Hello again, I appreciate your help for archiving my talk page. I need your suggestion again please. I can no longer see my thread in the Admin noticeboard. I do not even know the outcome. Can you please help me find it or at least the outcome of that report? --Bringtar (talk) 15:48, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (also known as WP:ANI) uses automatic archiving.
What that means is that X days after people stop discussing an item, it gets archived. If you want to see the archives, go to WP:ANI and you will see that on the right there is a box that leads to the archive. It even has a search facility that you can use to learn about other users. Try typing your name into the search box. If you do, you will get this
What happened - nothing  -- Toddy1 (talk) 18:24, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

 

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The Aafī (talk) 08:05, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Stop undoing other people's edits for no reason!

Wikipedia is not your inherited property. Stop undoing other's edits just because of your personal obsession. If you cause further unnecessary edit wars, your ID will be reported to the authority. You will be banned from editing again. So please respect other people's works and try to help making articles better instead of being being obsessed about something minor. Ishan87 (talk) 14:12, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

  • Ishan87, "your ID will be reported to the authority"? Who do you think runs Wikipedia? Pol Pot? Drmies (talk) 14:14, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
    • @Drmies I never said I run it or anything. Just giving him a warning Ishan87 (talk) 14:19, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
      • No, that's not a valid warning. And Toddy1 will not be banned from editing. Cool your jets. Drmies (talk) 14:27, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

User Ishan87 Vandalism

I have noticed User:Ishan87 has been vandalsing pages all over with no motivation to reform please issue a ban on such users. SPQR10 (talk) 03:42, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree with you that he/she is a problem user. But I am not an admin, so I do not have the ability to block or ban him/her.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Please don't falsely accuse me! Not a single edit that I made without the intention to make it better. If you have any objections about any topic in particular, I'm open for discussion. If you blaspheme me again without any evidence, I'll be forced to contact admins. Ishan87 (talk) 05:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Fascinating.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:58, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

@Toddy Brother are a Muslim? I'd like to discuss with you before editing the same pages whenever we have diaputes over an issue, and I do not want to go to any edit war. I hope you can help me with my edits and if I make any mistake, please feel free to discuss with me before undoing my edits. Ishan87 (talk) 13:55, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

  1. Please do not ask personal questions.
  2. It is clear from your edit summary at Umm Kulthum bint Abi Bakr that you have not a clue about whether it was the woman or the child who got sick, but nevertheless you persist in reverting back to your change from the woman getting sick to the child getting sick. Arabic Wikipedia has the woman getting sick, which was what English-language Wikipedia said before you changed it to say otherwise. I suggest that you self-revert.
-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:50, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

@Toddy1 After the edit I've studied the issue more deeply and I've now no doubt that it was Salim who got sick. It's clearly mentioned in the hadith and I've provided a link of an original Arabic version of that text where salim himself mentioned that- "I got sick". Most of the English translations that are available in net are shortened version of the text where Salim's quoting was excluded, and thus the English translation was false. You can read the original Arabic version of the hadith if you want. If you cannot read or understand Arabic then ask someone who's an expert of classical Arabic. Btw, if you're not a Muslim then I don't understand your intentions or obsession with these islamic pages. Mind sharing? Anyway, hopefully this topic is clear to you now. Ishan87 (talk) 11:03, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

But you have admitted that you cannot understand classical Arabic, so you cannot be sure what the original means.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm not a native arabic speaker so I can't understand every word but I've been studying Arabic and I can read. I did mention on that edit summary that I wasn't sure because many of the English translations in the Internet was saying different than my native language translation. So after that I had to dig deep to find the original detailed hadith where Salim's quote is present, so I added it to the page and mentioned it in the later edit summary. I hope now you can understand me brother. If you still think it's not reliable then I think it'd be best if you contact a native Arabic speaker who has read the original hadith. Thank you. Ishan87 (talk) 11:34, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

What you are doing is covered by WP:OR, which says that "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation."-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:44, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Except it's not my interpretation. The quote is literally there, everyone can see it, I just corrected a false translation based on the source. Ishan87 (talk) 12:48, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Important Talk

Hello! I want to revert Jaʿfar al-Ṣādiq Artical to last version Please. IAMBEAST016 (talk) 09:31, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I want to win the national lottery.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Important Talk

Please dont revert my edits or we can discuss about it. AGoodMan69 (talk) 17:14, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021

 
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The message in question

Thanks for your support at Talk:Allahabad#Requested move 20 September 2021, but actually "the message in question" is not the "Warning" message on their Talk page you linked to (diff)—that one only appeared 12 hours *after* their message of 18:58, 30 Sept. at the RM. The actual "threatening message" they are complaining about is my message on their Talk page of 22:35, 29 September, here. I didn't want to link to it or call attention to it at the RM, because it would just be a distraction from the discussion there, but their characterization of my message as 'threatening' was pretty outrageous; but they kept doubling down, and finally an admin noticed and left them the brief note you linked to. In the meantime, though, that link of yours at the RM is pointing to the wrong thing, and really the best thing for the RM would just be to revert your last message, if you don't mind, to keep the discussion on track. Hope you understand, and thanks again for your good arguments at the RM (and elsehwere)! Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 15:48, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

English format (fmt)

Sincerely hope that you will forgive me for this edit. I was just bringing the text up to English standards, this being the English Wikipedia and all. I certainly did not mean to offend you in any way, shape or form. Again, hope you will forgive me, and thank you very much for your contributions to this encyclopedia! P.I. Ellsworth - ed. put'r there 13:33, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

You should know that the edit was made on the Move Review main project page, not on a talk page. WP:TPO applies only to talk pages. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. put'r there 13:48, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

File:Dnepropetrovsk 9792s.JPG

I saw that you added a Do not move to commons without any rationale in 2014. Do you remember why you want it kept local? If not, I can move it to commons and keep a local copy through {{Keep local}}. Sennecaster (Chat) 13:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Having things on Commons can produce problems. So the pictures are best kept local.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:26, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Am I okay to transfer the a copy of the files to commons and keep them local here per user request? I think some of these would have global usage benefits and placing a {{Keep local}} would ensure that it would never get deleted from here aside from FfD.Sennecaster (Chat) 18:17, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
I already explained that it can produce problems. I know of some bad experiences that are relevant to these. If the photographs are on commons, with a local copy here, then someone else will come along and say that it is duplication, and the duplicate copy must be removed. Both Commons and Wikipedia are full of bossy people.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:55, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Avoid disruption & irrelevant talk at ANI Noticeboard

Avoid disruption at ANI Noticeboard as you did here. If you have any issue to discuss regarding me start a new thread. Plz avoid irrelevant talk at ANI noticeboard.DavidWood11 (talk) 08:12, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

  There is a risk in reporting other editors at WP:ANI. By doing so, you are inviting other editors to comment on your own actions too. -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:23, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Moved to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1080#Concerns raised by user DavidWood11

@DavidWood11: I looked for these yesterday when the ANI case arose, but I failed to find them.

-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:46, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

  Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Grufo (talkcontribs) 21:35, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive442#User:Vice regent, User:Toddy1, User:Iskandar323 reported by User:Grufo (Result: Grufo blocked 72h)

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Reverted edits

1. In India, more Muslims speak Bengali which is 19 million than Kashmiri which is about 8.5 million. 19 million figure is in the source.

2. I will try to find a source for Sudan.

3. Regions with significant populations should only list top ten regions otherwise the list will get larger and larger. Emailaddressemailaddress (talk) 23:53, 8 November 2021 (UTC)