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Please stop moving large portions of Oliver Wyman history to other Marsh & McLennan pages without contributing to talk pages. As far as I understand, the content on the "Marsh & McLennan" page is about their primary business, insurance broking; the content on "Mercer" is about their primary business, human resources consulting; and the content on Oliver Wyman is about their primary business, management consulting. MMC has a long and well-documented history of confusing name changes, "[t]he history entails so many reorganizations and changing of org charts that the archives would confuse even the most intelligent consultants" as noted by Managemement Consulted, and reliable sources should be added before reorganizing the Wikipedia pages. Pereneph (talk) 23:56, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Please don't add new items to the top - I archive this page oldest items first. Discussion continued on Talk:Oliver Wyman#History clarifications TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:51, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Help_desk request from Mark BourrieEdit

User:Mark Bourrie was banned, including his many sockpuppets. Surely any requests made by them for edits should be reverted. Nfitz (talk) 00:24, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Nfitz: he seems to be more transparent now about getting his information correct. I'd rather he explain his reasoning about what's incorrect, and allow us to find corroborating sources. There are lots of eyes on this - shouldn't be too much trouble keeping it neutral. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:47, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Turn a blind eye to Arbcom rulings and recently blocked sockpuppets? The most recent disciplinary action was about 10 weeks ago, and this has been going on since February 2006. Meanwhile they are allowed to make make false claims about other editors? Surely someone with a 13-year history of this, has wasted enough time and resources, that they shouldn't be mollycoddled while they continue to break the rules. There's a way forward that I outlined on the article talk page. Nfitz (talk) 19:19, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
@Nfitz: I just saw his more recent comments to you on the talk page, which are threats and so I'm done trying to be a neutral party here. He seems to keep digging a bigger hole for himself. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:27, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
I just saw the latest, after my comment above. Instead of working co-operatively, he has accused me of smears and retaliation (even though the text that seems to offend him is unchanged since my first edit of the page!). That is not acting in good faith, nor being transparent. This is why he was blocked in 2006. He behaves as if everything is a personal attack, even edits that are trying to improve the article, and make it lessmore neutral. Or at least make it look like it wasn't total self-written puffery. Nfitz (talk) 19:31, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Just saw that typo! You escaped at the right time ... Nfitz (talk) 14:31, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, Tim! Based on your comments on my Citrix Systems request from June, I came up with a potential solution. I'm reaching out here in case you did not see the ping on the article Talk page. Thanks again for your help on this! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 20:25, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

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Category:Schedule II banks in CanadaEdit

Hi Tim,

You said I made some good points re: Category:Schedule II banks in Canada, but you haven't followed up with my reply whereby I requested you re-evaluate your vote. In light of recent AfDs of Schedule II (foreign-owned) banks that have now closed with either delete, merge, or redirect, might you take a second look at the number of redirects in that category and consider that this now amounts to WP:SMALLCAT, WP:NARROWCAT, and possibly WP:TRIVIALCAT? In short, it's no longer needed as a category.

To your point about noting in the articles their Schedule II bank status, that doesn't change with this.

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@Dmehus: I was waiting for others to chime in because this doesn’t seem to be something that should be decided by just you and me discussing it. But if nobody else chimes in then it’s a tie and you can delete the category and if anyone cares they can bring it back. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 17:33, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Timtempleton, Okay, but I can't delete the category. It works on consensus, so if the admins see your oppose vote, it'll probably get closed as no consensus, which favours keeping. You could possibly just update your "!vote" to a Comment, pending further discussion? Doug Mehus (talk) 17:51, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
I’ll take a look Monday - I’m traveling right now. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:31, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Timtempleton, Did you get a chance to look? Doug Mehus (talk) 00:53, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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Hey Tim thanks for your response and i did check on the history of the article and yes i noted that the original author removed references to schools ,but my query is that how many sources do i need to add the award category because he said my source was not enough? This was his comment after his edits( I removed references which i believed had no substance to the article ,i also removed the category awards and nominations because it doesn't have enough sources to claim it) .Secondly i have seen you are an editor can you review the article or give us points to work on for it to be approved. This is the draft in question Draft:Diego_Tryno — Preceding unsigned comment added by MelvinSeja (talkcontribs) 23:49, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Numbering convention on WikipediaEdit

Thank you for bringing this to my attention ,i never came across the MOS:NUMERAL before ,so do i have to go back to all the articles i edited and remove the duplicate numeral or text values for numbers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgiamarlins (talkcontribs) 00:17, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Responded on the user's talk page. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 01:06, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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Hi ,sorry i will be asking you a lot of questions ,you seem like a person who loves to helpEdit

Hi Tim,thank you for the edits ,now i know much about numerals .Can you please help me ,how do i reply to a comment or message left on my talk page without going to the other person's talk page? or how do i reply to a comment like this ,when you reply with an answer and i want to do a follow up question on this same post. For instance ,i posted a question here and you were able to reply it here and also replying at my talk page on the topic which was in our discussion without creating a new topic or new section,how do i do that? or only editors can do that? I hope you understood my question.Georgiamarlins (talk) 18:47, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

@Georgiamarlins: No problem - I'm here to help. You want to indent the comment so people can see the replies. To do that, you put in a ":" at the front. Here's more info Wikipedia:Indentation. When I click on the tab on top of your talk page where it says new section, it creates a new section. I'm automatically notified whenever anyone posts on my talk page. When I reply to you on my talk page, and want to notify you, I put in a reply template {{re|Georgiamarlins}}. That pings you. Here's more info Template:Reply to. When someone posts on someone else's talk page, they usually add that page to their watch list so they can see the response without that talk page's "owner" having to ping them. And you're an editor now. Hope this helps. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 20:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
@Timtempleton: Thank you ,i managed to use it just now .How many articles can i submit for review? I haven't been submitting articles for review because i wanted my first article to be reviewed first ,can i submit them all at once or i have to wait for the pending one to be reviewed first? and how many edits or articles do i have to do in order for me to be a reviewer too? . Georgiamarlins (talk) 00:28, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
@Georgiamarlins: Each reply is indented with an additional colon, for readability. I recommend you read this first Help:Your first article. It's very hard to write good articles, and it takes a long time for them to be reviewed, so you don't want to spend a lot of time unless you know you are getting it right. You will also have come challenges with the English - Wikipedia is very hard for non-native speakers. I wouldn't worry about reviewing other articles yet - I think that's a long ways away. I'd just focus on learning how to edit other articles for now. By the way - what made you decide to start numeric text to articles that already had numbers? It seems an odd way to contribute. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:36, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
@Timtempleton: Well its not a decision i woke up to and say hey i need to start numeric text to articles lol ,i guess my english lectures motivated me to do that , there is a say in literature that if you are writing a sentence make sure all your numbers are in words or text ,so i sort of wanted to use that concept because i thought it was the right thing to do at that moment.True creating a good article is not that easy ,but i believe i have done justice to my first article now because i have corrected errors ,it now just need a reviewer to check it out and because there are many pending articles i suppose i will have to be patient.Are you a reviewer yourself? If so do you think i still need to work more on this draft or its ready? Diego Tryno .Georgiamarlins (talk) 01:14, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

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Hello Timtempleton! I'm reaching out to you because you commented on the talk page of Draft:Diego Tryno. Now, over the past few weeks, I have been working with the primary editor of the article over on my user talk page (here: User talk:Utopes#Requesting for reconsideration) about whether the subject meets the notability criteria. We decided that the article just passes criterion 1, as we established that the subject was covered by two reliable, independent sources. It'd probably be best to go through the conversation that we had. To summarize, I felt that the sources weren't reliable at the start, as they read rather gossip-y and didn't seem to be a reliable source of information. It was brought to my attention that this is standard for Zimbabwean media, and that the sources were widely respected. I plan on approving of the article, but I wanted to let you know, so that you can check and see if I'm in the wrong at all for doing so. Regardless, cheers! Utopes (talk) 23:44, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

@Utopes: I took another look and did a little more clean up. I agree that the sourcing seems a bit week, and it's hard to tell if the poor English is the norm or perhaps a bad translation. If this was an afd, at this point I'd just barely veer from weak delete to weak keep territory. The Bulawayo 24 source [[1]] says his new album was supposed to drop yesterday, but I haven't seen any mention of it. If there is eventually more coverage, that could bolster the notability argument. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:46, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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GOCE December 2019 NewsletterEdit

Guild of Copy Editors December 2019 Newsletter
 

Hello and welcome to the December 2019 GOCE newsletter, an update of Guild happenings since the September edition. Our Annual Report should be ready in late January.

Election time: Nominations for the election of a new tranche of Guild coordinators to serve for the first half of 2020 will be open from 1 to 15 December. Voting will then take place and the election will close on 31 December at 23:59 UTC. Positions for Guild coordinators, who perform the important behind-the-scenes tasks that keep our project running smoothly, are open to all Wikipedians in good standing. We welcome self-nominations so please consider nominating yourself if you've ever thought about helping out; it's your Guild and it doesn't run itself!

September Drive: Of the thirty-two editors who signed up, twenty-three editors copy edited at least one article; they completed 39 requests and removed 138 articles from the backlog, bringing the backlog to a low of 519 articles.

October Blitz: This event ran from 13 to 19 October, with themes of science, technology and transport articles tagged for copy edit, and Requests. Sixteen editors helped remove 29 articles from the backlog and completed 23 requests.

November Drive: Of the twenty-eight editors who signed up for this event, twenty editors completed at least one copy edit; they completed 29 requests and removed 133 articles from the backlog.

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Progress report: From September to November 2019, GOCE copy editors processed 154 requests. Over the same period, the backlog of articles tagged for copy editing was reduced by 41% to an all-time low of 479 articles.

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Just a quick note to let you know that Template:Reflist defaults to 30em columns when more than 10 references are in the list; we don't have to manually specify it. ElKevbo (talk) 00:31, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I only add it when it doesn't look right, which is only when it has fewer than ten sources. @ElKevbo:. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

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Can you Fix the error on the refernce i made please. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 14:47, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@68.103.78.155: Fixed. You had stray spaces in the URL. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 20:54, 24 January 2020 (UTC)}}

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GOCE March newsletterEdit

Guild of Copy Editors March 2020 Newsletter
 

Hello and welcome to the March newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since December 2019. All being well, we're planning to issue these quarterly in 2020, balancing the need to communicate widely with the avoidance of filling up talk pages. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

Election results: There was little changeover in the roster of Guild Coordinators, with Miniapolis stepping down with distinction as a coordinator emeritus while Jonesey95 returned as lead coordinator. The next election is scheduled for June 2020 and all Wikipedians in good standing may participate.

January Drive: Thanks to everyone for the splendid work, completing 215 copy edits including 56 articles from the Requests page and 116 backlog articles from the target months of June to August 2019. At the conclusion of the drive there was a record low of 323 articles in the copy editing backlog. Of the 27 editors who signed up for the drive, 21 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

February Blitz: Of the 15 editors who signed up for this one-week blitz, 13 completed at least one copy edit. A total of 32 articles were copy edited, evenly split between the twin goals of requests and the oldest articles from the copy-editing backlog. Full results are here.

March Drive: Currently underway, this event is targeting requests and backlog articles from September to November 2019. As of 18 March, the backlog stands at a record low of 253 articles and is expected to drop further as the drive progresses. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Help set a new record and sign up now!

Progress report: As of 18 March, GOCE copyeditors have completed 161 requests in 2020 and there was a net reduction of 385 articles from the copy-editing backlog – a 60% decrease from the beginning of the year. Well done and thank you everyone!

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Response to your reply on the TeahouseEdit

@David Fuchs:

I'll try and find that discussion (perhaps it's under one of the archived talk pages of the ST movie articles I mentioned). Thing is, from what you appeared to bring up with the Jaws and Godfather posters is that they have the regular theatrical posters and not just the art. I wouldn't want the author to be unhappy about anything, but it seems like a discussion should possibly be opened on these certain Star Trek film articles regarding whether to use the regular posters or just the art. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 11:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

ty for your help at teahouseEdit

i just wanted to thank you for your valuable input at the coffeehouse. ive learned a bunch from it. take care and stay safe.ToeFungii (talk) 14:48, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I tried again to make the change and the same editor undid it within minutes. It truly makes me laugh how some people are so intractable. I had thought, or only noticed, people being hardheads over facts, but its pathetic when simply trying to improve readability a user puts their feet in concrete. I even tried reaching out to the user to say if you dont like my change then at least recog the sentence is over 40 words and needs help without any success. its a shame there are a few people like this because they genuinely stop progress. thx. ToeFungii (talk) 16:09, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Template:Re:ToeFungii there are some people dead set on owning articles that they work on. Sadly they are sometimes supported by admins in this violation of site norms. See my personal favorite from three years ago when I tried to add an infobox to Ian Fleming’s article and ran into a stubbornly entrenched group. [[2]] TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 17:28, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

You might want to see this as the edit summary quotes you as justification for a revertEdit

[3] - this is about David Gorski whose blog you said correctly was sps. But Science-Based Medicine is an RS.[4] Doug Weller talk 17:52, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

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HugoEdit

OK, will e-mail you. Deb (talk) 08:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Drew Chicone CitationEdit

Hi, I added a question regarding the citation notice you added to this page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Drew_Chicone#Citations - guidance would be welcomed. Thank you. Mlepisto (talk) 16:49, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Please reviewEdit

Dear Tim, I would appreciate if you could review the Roy Sebag article as there is an attempt again to nominate it for deletion. Last time, you had voted to keep the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipedia1995 (talkcontribs) 21:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Dead LinkEdit

Tim, thank you for your review of the AfC for Draft:Kyle_McMahon I reviewed the draft again and can not find any dead links. Are you able to kindly let me know what you found so I may fix?

Thanks, Frank FrankNSteinJr (talk) 00:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@FrankNSteinJr: The ESPN link (#4) says it’s dead. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 05:16, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Tim. That's strange because that was a working link last week. I just googled it and got a new link from ESPN for the same story so I've switched it to that.

Appreciate it.

FrankNSteinJr (talk) 22:40, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@FrankNSteinJr: That happens a lot. Media companies reorganize their links from time to time, to accommodate new technologies and search features and things of that ilk. You'd think that an automatic tagging of dead links on Wikipedia would be possible with current web crawler software. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:28, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

GOCE June newsletterEdit

Guild of Copy Editors June 2020 Newsletter
 

Hello and welcome to the June newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since March 2020. You can unsubscribe from our mailings at any time; see below. All times and dates stated are in UTC.

Current events

Election time: Nomination of candidates in our mid-year Election of Coordinators opened on 1 June, and voting will take place from 00:01 on 16 June. GOCE coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought about helping out at the Guild, or you know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here.

June Blitz: This blitz begins at 00:01 on 14 June and ends at 23:59 on 20 June, with themes of articles tagged for copyedit in May 2020 and requests.

Drive and blitz reports

March Drive: Self-isolation from coronavirus may have played a hand in making this one of our most successful backlog elimination drives. The copy-editing backlog was reduced from 477 to a record low of 118 articles, a 75% reduction. The last four months of 2019 were cleared, reducing the backlog to three months. Fifty requests were also completed, and the total word count of copy-edited articles was 759,945. Of the 29 editors who signed up, 22 completed at least one copy edit. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

April Blitz: This blitz ran from 12 to 18 April with a theme of Indian military history. Of the 18 people who signed up, 14 copyedited at least one article. Participants claimed a total of 60 copyedits. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

May Drive: This event marked the 10th anniversary of the GOCE's copy-editing drives, and set a goal of diminishing the backlog to just one month of articles, as close to zero articles as possible. We achieved the goal of eliminating all articles that had been tagged prior to the start of the drive, for the first time in our history! Of the 51 editors who signed up, 43 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Other news

Progress report: as of 2 June, GOCE participants had processed 328 requests since 1 January, which puts us on pace to exceed any previous year's number of requests. As of the end of the May drive, the backlog stood at just 156 articles, all tagged in May 2020.

Outreach: To mark the 10th anniversary of our first Backlog Elimination Drive, The Signpost contributor and GOCE participant Puddleglum2.0 interviewed project coordinators and copy-editors for the journal's April WikiProject Report. The Drive and the current Election of Coordinators have also been covered in The Signpost's May News and Notes page.

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Thank youEdit

I wanted to take a moment to thank you for taking the time to investigate the Planet Fitness page.
I read a news item about the Youfit owner retiring, and out of curiousity went to the PF Wiki. When I saw he wasn't mentioned at all I did some digging and found the conflicting accounts. I corrected them on the page, my notes were deleted. Being new to Wiki, I was confused and bewildered -- I tried to present the information but user refused to back down. Anyway, I have no dog in the fight other than the desire to see the facts presented. In this world of false sources and rewriting history, it's a relief to have someone else care about what facts really mean. So, thank you again! Katherine311MH (talk) 15:14, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@Katherine311MH: Glad to help - I like the challenge of unraveling the narrative. You might add some info to Youfit about the fact that they seem to have been started as a spinoff of Planet Fitness, with the first few locations converted from Planet Fitness franchises. And there's no logo - do you know how to add one? It's good experience to have. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:40, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Yes, that's what got me interested too. Especially because the links etc kept getting deleted. Intrigue!

I've put photos in; I'll research to see if the logos are easier. Thanks for the ideas!Katherine311MH (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Adopt-A-User - my hopes for its futureEdit

Hi Tim. Following up on your post at the Teahouse about the Adopt - a -User programme, that new user gap, as I understand it, was once filled solely by WP:AAU. But nowadays, with the evolution of other help fora, new users are, for the most part, far better served by WP:HD and WP:TH. I have been gently working towards the Adoption scheme moving away from being seen as 'new user' support (which we do well at the Teahouse) and towards intermediate user support (or 'committed new user' might be a better term).

See this discussion for an outline of my very slow-burn aspiration, in which we re-purpose AAU, and take it off the new user welcome templates, get rid of the 'adopt me' templates that new users pointlessly put on their pages, and then promote Adoption to the right type of user from WP:HD and WP:TH and other venues (such as certain help and guidance pages). It would become a means of giving one-to-one support for those users whose current Wikipedia editing would be improved by greater understanding of our working practices, but who are already able to show they have some broad editing experience under their belt. It would avoid POV editors, and those totally new users who clearly have no intention to stick around, from wasting the time of adopters. These adopters would be better off supporting those they can see already know the basics, but would now benefit from a period of more intensive or focussed guidance. It would meet the needs of those who have more tricky, and perhaps involved or long-term, questions that they might feel they can't ask at the Teahouse/Help desk. One example here. I did do a draft reworking of the AAU text some while ago, but haven't changed anything on the page as yet as it's going to take some long term commitment to steer it through, and gaining a bit of broad support. But AAU is regarded as having been in the doldrums for the last 8 to 10 years, and some of the old hands, like Swarm, seem keen to let someone have a go at reworking it. (I'm just not going to rush it, though, and still need to do find time to do more planning work on it). So, I hope you didn't think I was trying to tell you off in any way; I'm just keen that was, as Teahouse Hosts, don't AAU is a panacea, or mislead new editors by pushing them towards something that really won't meet their needs, and which will result in disappointment for them.  Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)  

@Nick Moyes: Thanks for the background. Sounds like the best onboarding process is to recommend users do the Wikipedia adventure, and then people who want to keep going can go to Help:Getting started, followed by the Wikipedia:Community portal. And of course if they get stuck go to the Teahouse or Help Desk. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:01, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
I hope I never evolve into using that particular jargonese term (LOL) but, yes, that sounds logical. When we start to see clearly able questioners asking complex things at the Teahouse, that's probably the time to suggest they might find Adoption ideal for them. This is only my view of course, but I genuinely think that's the way to go. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

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A moment of your timeEdit

Hello! I respect your work and hope you have a minute to look at a page I'm creating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ron_Diamond One of the things he's famous for in the animation community is his film restoration work, however I am not seeing a lot of sourcing about it. It would be a shame not to list it, do you have any suggestions? Thank you! Katherine311MH (talk) 15:59, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Katherine311MH: Discussion moved to talk page. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 01:06, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, so much. He has more films and a ton of awards, so I'm currently researching those and will continue to add and edit.Katherine311MH (talk) 21:55, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

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I wanted to thank you for your response to my request for advice on my first draft article. I will definitely put the time in to be sure I produce the best work that I can, knowing that at this point in my level of experience I will probably fall short of perfection, but it's a great learning experience for what, hopefully, will be many more. Of course, I am continuing to do some edits and clean up work on other articles, I am learning more as I go along. I wanted to let you know, I do have content to add to the extra section heading that are currently empty or short. I have a lot of information, that hopefully, proves the notability of the individual that I'm writing about, James Ewing. I'm still adding content to some of the other sections, I find it helpful to skip around when I hit a wall and need to mull a bit.I When I finish, I will be sure to edit out some of the written information that may be redundant and unnecessary. Again, thanks very much, hopefully, if it's accepted, I can share it with you. I appreciate your mentoring.😁 Best Mollifiednow (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors September 2020 NewsletterEdit

Guild of Copy Editors September 2020 Newsletter
 

Hello and welcome to the September GOCE newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since June 2020.

                 Current and upcoming events

September Drive: Our current backlog-elimination drive is open until 23:59 on 30 September (UTC) and is open to all copy editors. Sign up today!

Election reminder: our end-of-year Election of Coordinators opens for nominations on 1 December. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here.

Drive and Blitz reports

June Blitz: An uncorrected typo (even copy editors make copy editing mistakes!) led to an eight-day "leap blitz" from 14 to 21 June, focusing on requests and articles tagged in May. 19 participating editors claimed 54 copy edits. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

July Drive: Over 750,000 words of articles were copy edited for this event, keeping pace with the previous three self-isolated drives. Of the 38 people who signed up, 30 copyedited at least one article. Final results and awards are listed here.

August Blitz: From 16 to 22 August, we copy edited articles tagged in June and July 2020 and requests. 12 participating editors completed 37 copy edits on the blitz. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Other news

June election: Jonesey95 was chosen to continue as lead coordinator, assisted by Baffle gab1978, Tdslk, Twofingered Typist, and first-time coordinator Puddleglum2.0. Reidgreg took a break after serving for a couple years. Thanks to everyone who participated!

Progress report: As of 01:33, 18 September 2020 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors had processed 532 requests since 1 January and there were 38 requests awaiting completion on the Requests page. The backlog of articles tagged for copy-editing stood at 433 (see monthly progress graph above).

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, Puddleglum2.0, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist.

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Hey There!Edit

hey i'm mfl1000 i've seen that the Bigger Than You has something wrong in the chart section, in the nz chart it says 8 but its not in the right place can you please fix it thanks!

@MFL1000: I fixed it. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:43, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Tim!Edit

hey i'm Ard-Na-Ri i'was referred to you by someone in the Online Geniuses slack group for article creation. I'm not sure how this works exactly, sorry, but was looking for some advice on getting a page created for a company, if you have any advice on how to best go about this I'd appreciate it thank you so much! Ard-Na-Ri (talk) 23:16, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ard-Na-Ri - I'm not familar with Online Geniuses, but I'll give you the same advice I give to everyone at the help desk and teahouse. Creating an article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia. There used to be a way for people to propose articles, but because of the large backlog and resultant frustration, it looks like the link has been changed to direct people to the Article Creation wizard. If you have a conflict of interest and are comneected to the company, it's recommended that you not try to write an article - it will only likely be rejected. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. If you're not connected, and want to learn to edit, I recommend you first visit Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure to learn basic editing. Then you can take a shot at a draft. It's a good skill to have and we always need more editors. This will also help Help:Your first article. Then you can go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation and give it a shot. There should be at least 8-10 good sources of independent media coverage, including at least 2 indepth profiles. You should be able to write a good article without having to use any information the company writes about itself. But feel free to ping me again if you're not sure if the company is notable enough, so you don't waste your time. Good luck! TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:10, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

BellSoft articleEdit

Dear Tim!

Once upon a time you noticed some issues in the atricle Azul Systems which is similar to the article BellSoft, which I am creating now. BellSoft is a company developing Liberica JDK, one of OpenJDK-based Java SE implementations.

May I ask you to take a look at my sandbox? I prepared a draft of the article there and wish to ensure that it is as good as possible. I appreciate your advice on how to improve the article. Thank you!

Philip Torchinsky (talk) 15:08, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Philip Torchinsky - discussion moved to User talk:Philip Torchinsky/sandbox. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:27, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Broadbean (company)Edit

Hello Timtempleton, an article on Broadbean that you created back in 2011 seems to have fallen into an unfortunate state, lacking substantive, independent references. Are you aware of any sources that might show that the company meets NCORP? – Teratix 09:21, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Teratix: One of my first articles - a blast from the past. It does need better sourcing. Let me hunt for some more sources. They were bought by CareerBuilder which is now owned by Apollo Global Management. The site is still up so they kept the Broadbean name and are likely still a standalone business. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:30, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
@Teratix: - I cleaned it up and added some recent news. let me know what you think. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:50, 15 October 2020 (UTC)