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Ping DYK

Hey Andy, thanks for the DYK review, I think you have to add the little green check mark, or else the promotors won't notice it. Montanabw(talk) 22:30, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

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Recent merging of Aus sport club infobox with Sports club infobox

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Openstreetmap

I have fixed some of the double redirects, and will probably do the rest unless someone shouts at me to stop. What is the village pump at Openstreetmap's wiki? All the best: Rich Farmbrough02:22, 5 June 2014 (UTC).

I found Talk:Wiki, and left a message. All the best: Rich Farmbrough03:00, 5 June 2014 (UTC).
@Rich Farmbrough: many thanks. You might also try/ join the OSM "WikiProject Cleanup" project. See you over there! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:59, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy,

Howard Sandroff here. I am happy to do anything to fix the article, there were some inaccuracies in the original German which are now in the English version. Tell me what and how or where to find same, and i can provide a nice head shot free of incumbrance. Same with voice recording. How can I help you clean up the article? Thanks so much for your interest and for your wikipedia service which is obviously extensive and very laudable. Where would be all be if not for wikipedia (probably in the library :-) 19:36, 5 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.80.60 (talk)

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Randy Borror

After seeing your WP:VP note, I found a little extra material on Randy Borror, who's clearly male. What needs to be done to indicate this in the infobox? Nyttend (talk) 14:49, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

@Nyttend: We need to modify the infobox, as shown in {{Infobox User}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:26, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for St James' Church, Handsworth

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:04, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

PONY!

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Congratulations! For your help with California Chrome and the horse racing templates, you have received a pony! Ponies are cute, intelligent, cuddly, friendly (most of the time, though with notable exceptions), promote good will, encourage patience, and enjoy carrots. Treat your pony with respect and he will be your faithful friend! Montanabw(talk) 06:53, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you, Montanabw. I'll enjoy that later. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:04, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Brat! But with ponies, sometimes their behavior does give rise to that particular threat! LOL! Montanabw(talk) 16:00, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Very colourful

Wow, do you get to go on the beach at all? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:04, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

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ORCID

Hi saw a post on a wikimedia uk mailing list and have created an ORCHID entry for myself and added it to my wiki userpage, but I'm still trying to get my head around its usefulness. I don't do many biography articles but, if I do, how can I tell if that individual has an ORCHID number? - presumably you can't create one for someone else or that would remove the legitimacy wouldn't it?— Rod talk 16:43, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

@Rodw: Welcome to the club! No, you can't create one for them. But you could ask them, or check their website; or use the advanced search on the ORCID website. In the longer term, we'll be doing some work on the ORCID website to make it easier for people with Wikipedia bios to tell us they have both. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:24, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Interwiki links and wikidata

Andy, I know you have the ear of the Wikidata people- so you will be able to separate this little rant into the the correct Bugs:Instances:Muesli- and direct it/them and direct it at the correct people. I am chasing another time-consuming hare.

[snip]

OK leave it there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClemRutter (talkcontribs) 14:28, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

@ClemRutter: Sorry, but I don't know where to begin with this one. I've moved it to WP:VPT#Wikidata issue. Hope someone there can help you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:37, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Nomination

I'm so pleased to see you've been nominated at

It's good to see your hard work recognised. --RexxS (talk) 23:44, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. It's very flattering. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:02, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I think it's simply true. I especially support the line "this work deserves praise as advancing free knowledge in its truest sense", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:06, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #113

RFC for Template:Geographic reference

Hi Andy, because we were involved in this recent discussion involving a template with a number of citation references, I'd like your input at an RfC I've started regarding Template:Geographic reference which is another template in much more use that also contains citation references (as ref tags) but in a similar mindset as the Latin phrases references one. Thanks. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:18, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


Discussion at Talk:Cory Doctorow#Cory Doctorow and Creative Commons

  You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Cory Doctorow#Cory Doctorow and Creative Commons. Thanks. Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 01:43, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

An album is waiting for you

  Sorter, 1st class
Photos are being uploaded to c:Category:West Midlands Police Museum (check needed), hopefully they'll finish tonight. Have fun! (talk) 22:26, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

@: that's great; thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:20, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Please don't vandalize my userpage with your lies

There was no attack. Where? Corite? Is it responsible to let flagrant untruths from biased individuals go unchecked? Hardly. I objectively pointed out that Corite's claim that she said "several sources were disparaging" must be disregarded because it was either a lie or someone who didn't understand the simple English in the 17 or whatever sources that were there, as only one, (ONE, which is not "several" by ANY definition) was disparaging and, at that, it was tongue-in-cheek disparaging merely BECAUSE it alluded to the rivalry in the VERY SENTENCE it was reference for. Not that hard to understand. Do not come to my Talk Page with your slander. You claim to have "more important things to do" than delete every other article at college humor magazines yet you have a wealth of time to harass honest editors like myself. Why don't you spend the time making wikipedia better? Look at my edit history. I improve articles. You harass people or/and make up bogus claims to justify these harassments. JesseRafe (talk) 16:48, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

False accusations of vandalism. False accusations of lies. False accusations of slander. False accusations of harassment. And that's after being warned, more than once, for making personal attacks? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:00, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
False? Right. Have you heard of wiktionary? JesseRafe (talk) 17:03, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Andy! I'm a Wikipedian-in-Residence at the Metropolitan New York Library Council in New York. Just want to introduce myself and say that I look forward to meeting you at Wikimania. It looks like we both share a love of archives, and I'd be interested in hearing about your Residency at ORCHID. Feel free to email me at dhoward@metro.org for anything. OR drohowa (talk) 21:27, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

@OR drohowa: Thanks for dropping by. I look forward to meeting you, too. I have email enabled here, should you need to contact me. Looks like we share an interest in public art, too. Do you have an ORCID, yet? See WP:ORCID for details of how to add it to your user page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:07, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Thanks! Just signed up and added it to my Userpage. Very cool. OR drohowa (talk) 16:42, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Treak Cliff Cavern

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:12, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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OS coord

Hi Andy, my memory says that you had lots of links from the West Midland Bird Club site to my map source using grid ref thingy. If you still have them, more work for you. The toolserver is going west - literally, I believe - and I have migrated just in time. See {{OS coord}}. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:50, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

@RHaworth: Thank you for tipoff; there were indeed a lot of links to your excellent tool, but I parted company with the club while back, and they replaced the website with a new one, which has none. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:32, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

More love from @WeAreWikipedia

  Your curation week was just overwhelming!
Hi Andy, you are a super-wikipedian, a rock star! Thank you so much for self-nominating and applying for @WeAreWikipedia. Your week saw more than 100 new followers, RT from Jimbo and a hundreds of other discussions. I am excited to see you in Wikimania this year! :) SubhaUtter2me! 13:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. It was fun, and I'd be glad to do it again, some time. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:03, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Template:Public art row

Hi Andy, I made a new request for changes to the template at its talk page. All the best, Ham (talk) 19:33, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

2014 Pritzker Literature Award for Lifetime Achievement in Military Writing

...was announced today. British historian Antony Beevor is the recipient. AP syndicated articles. I haven't seen a UK article yet. Please edit relevant articles on Wikipedia as appropriate. TeriEmbrey (talk) 22:10, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the Hebari Article

Hi Andy, regarding the Hebari article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebari as far as I can see the piece meets the requirements for GNG. The subject has received coverage from multiple sources including print media and blogs and is well recognised with the BDSM community in Australia, Japan, the UK and the USA as noted by sources including SMPedia, Nawapedia and Skin Two Magazing along with several independent community blogs. The nature of the BDSM community is that blogs and closed sites represent the majority of the material about individuals. You will note that most of the people noted under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Bondage_riggers are of a similar nature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.200.59.30 (talk) 00:19, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Extant Organizations/Noticeboard

Someone suggested at the Village Pump that I boldly create Wikipedia:Extant Organizations/Noticeboard, a noticeboard to discuss articles about organizations that may be subject to non-neutral editing. Basically it's the corporate version of BLPN, where both adverts and attack pages can be brought to the community for broader scrutiny. Except this board does not currently relate to a specific policy like BLPN does, except NPOV, V, etc. (though it could refer to this essay I wrote or something). You participated in the prior village pump discussion that led to consensus for Template:COI editnotice, which is now widely used. Although this noticeboard is not COI-related, I thought you might have an interest in this as well, in whether the noticeboard should be kept and/or in participating in it generally. CorporateM (Talk) 18:38, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #115

Help needed

Hi Andy, I just wrote Surat City Bus. The whole PPP thing for a city bus service makes me believe it is a potential DYK, so I was wondering if you could help me figure out what an appropriate hook would be. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 20:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

@Rsrikanth05: How about "Surat's gas powered bus service was suspended as it didn't break even"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:51, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. It sounds brilliant, although the gas powered bit doesn't seem too good. Several major cities in India use CNG as fuel with one of them using only CNG. Thanks for the help, I think I can work on something along those lines. :) Cheers, --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

West Midlands PCC

Hey Pigsonthewing. A by-election article has now been created (very much in stub form, I concede). doktorb wordsdeeds 13:37, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

WP West Midlands - needs-infobox

Hi, re these edits - you could have done that in two lines,

|infobox={{{needs-infobox|}}}
|INFOBOX_CAT=Articles needing infoboxes

see e.g. {{WikiProject Wiltshire}} or {{WikiProject Yorkshire}}. If a custom cat is not needed but the default (i.e. Category:West Midlands articles needing infoboxes) is acceptable, use just the first of those two lines, see e.g. {{WikiProject Devon}} {{WikiProject Hampshire}} {{WikiProject Hertfordshire}} {{WikiProject Merseyside}} {{WikiProject Worcestershire}}. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:32, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh, and Category:Articles needing infoboxes should be empty - it's a soft redir to Category:Wikipedia articles with an infobox request --Redrose64 (talk) 16:37, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks - I copied the code from {{WikiProject Biography}}. Good catch with the category. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:14, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Steve Ormerod

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Finacle

Hi Andy, I'm currently rewriting Finacle. I need your opinion. Do you think I can take it to DYK? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 20:43, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

You only have around 540 character of prose. It had more than that on 18 June. Per Wikipedia:Did you know#DYK rules, five times expansion would be needed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:45, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

I wasn't talking about the size. I can get it beyond 1500. I took down promotional/copyvio texts. I was talking of a hook wise. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 18:50, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

There's always something that can be sued as a hook. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:56, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

2nd Hum Awards

Hello, Andy Mabbett, i want you to add one more Parameter in Infobox film awards which is: best_drama_serial_popular, could you please add this parameter, as it is necessary for description in 2nd Hum Awards. You can visit this page for further description, but, it is important to mention this parameter in Template box of film Awards. And one more could you change the previous parameter best_drama_serial to best_drama_serial_jury. Please i am waiting for your action. Fushan talk to Faizan July 08, 2014, 20:36(UTC)

Please see Template talk:Infobox film awards#New drama parameter proposal. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:08, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/John McClure (producer)

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About Selma (film)

You placed an 'outdated' tag on Selma. The film is still in production or post production, and is not scheduled for release until December 25, 2014. If you have specific information that should be added to the article, please make the edit, or raise the subject on the talk page. Otherwise those of us who have worked on the article must guess at what you mean. - Neonorange (talk) 20:34, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

I placed the tag because the article includes dated events, in the past, but refers to them in the future tense. This should not need a talk page explanation; nor guesswork. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:48, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I assume good faith, but had you done that in the beginning, no guesswork - and no exchange of messages. It is an inappropriate tag; I'm removing it. 'Dated' means old information, not improper tense. Without your explanation of your use of the word guesswork is all that's left. - Neonorange (talk) 21:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
And to save guesswork on your part, an amplified explanation: dated means old and superseded information. - Neonorange (talk) 21:32, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
And I've restored it; "is scheduled for June 23–26" is "old and superseded". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:37, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, I see some of your point. This now seems to be a discussion in philosophy/philology. The tense is one problem, and, I think, the main problem. On the other hand, WP:RS are easy for the projected shooting schedule; but not so easy about the projected shooting schedule having finished. I've edited on only one film article. However, I believe the fact that this article was published in Wikipedia six months before the film's first limited distribution is perhaps part of the problem. I think the future tense is proper as that is what the references state. It may very well be that principle photography is done, but there may not be any WP:RS more recent, and we can not draw such a conclusion. Your tag still is not really the best flag that you have found something wrong. I hesitate to get into convoluted constructions such as - it was reported in May that shooting in Selma would be done in the fourth week of June. It is not as if the World Cup schedule was reported in a Wikipedia article published in March, and by mid July there had been no update. - Neonorange (talk) 22:05, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I do think your concerns are valid. I don't think the tag is helpful, especially for attracting help from someone who has not worked on the article. I'll think about a solution. One approach is to completely remove the sentence you mention. Then, when (if it does) a WP:RS 'principal shooting ended' appears, insert a new sentence. Can you think of a more precise tag? - Neonorange (talk) 22:21, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
tl;dr. The article is outdated. It requires an update. If - for whatever reasons - you cannot make the update, go and do something useful elsewhere, and leave it for someone who can. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:cite doi RfC

Because you commented at this discussion, I would appreciate your views at this RfC on the particular issue of DOI templates. Thanks! -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:16, 9 July 2014 (UTC)