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Revert on URL shortening

Hi Neonorange. Are you sure about this revert? The summary of the edit I reverted was "added content" but the edit removed useful wikilinks and altered a sentence such that it no longer makes sense. I don't believe "added content" can be considered an explanation. Squeakachu (talk) 05:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Apologies for stepping on your toes. Evidently we were both working on the same pending changes simultaneously.

think the changes by the IP were a valid tightening of the leading paragraph. Bringing up the World Wide Web there is unnecessary, for example. I agree with you that sentence you pointed out did not quite make sense. It would have been better if I had fixed that sentence after accepting the pending edit.

I believe in accepting pending edits that are mainly an improvement, are not vandalism, are not unsourced when that is required, and are not messing with sourced information. Especially with fairly new editors. BLPs require extra scrutiny since most of those pending changes are likely to be Dead On Arrival. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 03:02, 16 June 2024 (UTC) —

== Reverting editing and adding unreliable sources ==eman waten

Hello, you reverted my editing and added a non-reliable source aiming just to defame a living person. Would you explain what is your interest in doing so? 177.9.253.224 (talk) 22:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

My apologies. I was reviewing your changes to an article under pending changes protection. I have fixed the error, reinstating your changes. Somehow I misread your changes as adding the extraneous name rather than deleting them.

The edits we did were edits to information, not to sources. The two names were a type of vandalism and you were correct to delete as you did. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 23:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC) —

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Mathematics is not an opinion

Wikipedia's attitude is clearly skeptical and hostile towards Nostradamus. Invented prophecies, wrong solutions or forcing by some interpreters are highlighted. The blame for all this is subtly placed on Nostradamus and it is stated that his prophecies can only be identified after the events have occurred. Which is completely normal. Never has a cryptic prophecy been correctly exposed before it occurred. Prophecy is the message that God entrusts to the prophet to make known to men. There are two types of prophecies: explicit and cryptic. The explicit one is for example when God entrusts the tables of the law to Moses. The cryptic one is John's prophecy of the apocalypse, full of symbols, codes and figures that can hardly be interpreted before the events stated happen and in fact almost two thousand years have passed since its enunciation. My contribution is based on scientific and mathematical evidence specifying the source for which it can be objectively assessed. There is no adequate justification for removing it. It means wanting to also deny the Pythagorean theorem without giving a rational justification. 151.50.94.171 (talk) 06:24, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Help request for Historical rankings of presidents of the United States chart

In this article Historical rankings of presidents of the United States, the first big chart shows major errors, In the 2024 survey, the source does not support the ranking. Abraham Lincoln is in the middle of the pack, Teddy Roosevelt is in the lower third, Andrew Jackson is #7. In additional to the factual errors, there are technical problems with the charts. I believe the rest of the charts and columns also may have problems. I could not find edits that changed the charts for the last four months.

I am not competent to fix such large charts. The errors are going to confuse a lot of readers. Please fix the charts or blank them until the problem are fixed.

Or just point me to a good chart editor. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 23:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC) —

If you are saying that the given source does not support the information as written, that is an issue to discuss on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 00:28, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

August music

story · music · places

Thank you for explaining for a new editor how to slow down! - I have three "musicians" on the Main page, one the topic of my story today, like 22 July but with interview and today's music at the Proms. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:12, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extraordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

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Peter and Lewis Capaldi relationship

FYI Lewis Capaldi is the 1st cousin twice removed of Peter Capaldi. ie he is two generations younger. His gg grandfather Giovanni Battista Antonio Capladi is Peter's grandfather. Giovanni passed away on the Isle of Man in 1946. I can send you a verified ancestry chart if you like. Peter McCaig (talk) 07:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

@Peter McCaig, I am afraid a genealogical chart will not help. I see two problems: information placed in Wikipedia must be from published reports (especially for biographies of living people) and such a genealogy chart would expose personal information of uninvolved individuals.

The only way forward would be to find the kinship information published by a source Wikipedia considers reliable. Wikipedia article content is supported by verifiability, not truth. Wikipedia readers must be able to verify information through citations to reliable sources, sources that have editorial management and fact checking abilities; scholarly journals, newspapers of records, and websites that meet the same requirements and that are not user generated.

If you wish to have wider discussions on your concern, try The Tea House or open a discussion on the talk page of the article you wish to edit.

In addition, try reading the guidelines and policies for Wikipedia editors in the welcome banner at the top of your user page. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 12:45, 14 September 2024 (UTC) —

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