User talk:Ammarpad/Archive 11
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ha.Wikipedia welcome?
I'm kind of confused about why I was welcomed to the ha.Wikipedia when I've never edited there. Clovermoss (talk) 13:50, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Growth team updates #7
Welcome to the seventh newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
Newcomer homepage release this week
Like the other Growth team features, this will be deployed in a controlled experiment, in which half of newcomers will have access to their homepage and half will not. Users with the feature will be able to access it by clicking their username at the top of their browser, and it will only be available on desktop -- not mobile. Experienced users who want to see their homepage will be able to turn it on in their preferences.
Wikis receiving the newcomer homepage can expect these things:
- Additional questions will come to the help desk from the "help module" on the homepage.
- Mentors who have signed up for the "mentorship module" will start to receive questions on their user talk pages.
- More users may create and edit user pages through the "start module".
Recent and future homepage development
The most important piece developed for the homepage over the last month is the "start module", which gives newcomers clear actions to take when they are new: add/confirm their email, go through a tutorial, start their user page. We learned about the need for this module from user tests last month. The next priorities for the newcomer homepage are:
- Mobile design: to work well in mobile browsers, the homepage needs a separate design and engineering. See the accompanying mockups for potential mobile designs.
- Features for discovery: only about 15% - 30% of newcomers will discover their homepage by clicking their username at the top of their browser. We are going to be designing additional ways for newcomers to find out about it.
- Additional modules: the initial version contains some of the simpler modules. Potential upcoming modules include task recommendations and a feed of activity on the wiki.
Other updates
- Help panel leading indicators: our team published data on the help panel's initial performance. The evaluation exposes some areas for improvement, but we think the help panel's behavior so far is healthy and that it is not having a negative impact on the wikis. We will be publishing additional data, making plans, and asking for community thoughts around the future of the help panel over the course of the next two weeks. If you are interested in trying out the help panel on your wiki, please let us know on our team's talk page.
- Long term plans: the team had a week of planning meetings, in which we talked about some longer-term ideas for Growth work. Some of the top ideas are: to extend the newcomer homepage to help user's build their identity through a user profile, and to revisit the "engagement emails" project that the team put on hold. Over the next month, we will be asking for community conversation around how the team can spend our time in the next fiscal year, that starts in July.
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The Signpost: 30 April 2019
- News and notes: An Action Packed April
- In the media: Is Wikipedia just another social media site?
- Discussion report: English Wikipedia community's conclusions on talk pages
- Featured content: Anguish, accolades, animals, and art
- Arbitration report: An Active Arbitration Committee
- Traffic report: Mötley Crüe, Notre-Dame, a black hole, and Bonnie and Clyde
- Technology report: A new special page, and other news
- Gallery: Notre-Dame de Paris burns
- News from the WMF: Can machine learning uncover Wikipedia’s missing “citation needed” tags?
- Recent research: Female scholars underrepresented; whitepaper on Wikidata and libraries; undo patterns reveal editor hierarchy
- From the archives: Portals revisited
Please comment on Talk:List of law clerks of the Supreme Court of the United States
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8th ISCB Wikipedia competition: deadline extended!
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Empty edit request filter
Hi Ammarpad, just saw your edit here noting there will be a filter for empty edit requests. This is new to me, and I was wondering if you would you be able to point me to somewhere I can read more on this? Thanks, CMD (talk) 07:17, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- @CMD: Yes, see Wikipedia:EFR#Prevent publishing of empty edit requests. All empty edit requests are now logged at 987 (hist · log), so that false positives can be detected. So far there's zero false positive and the filter will soon be set to disallow once more data is collected. – Ammarpad (talk) 08:18, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! I hope that a crafted automatic message if implemented will explain 1) a simple way to suggest their change in a manner that works 2) that protection can't be lifted for individual editors, if that's what's being requested. This would both reduce wasted effort and hopefully help anyone trying to suggest a change that doesn't know how. CMD (talk) 08:43, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thanks so much for helping me XTMontana (talk) 14:16, 8 May 2019 (UTC) |
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A Barnstar For You!
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The Bugle: Issue CLVII, May 2019
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Timeless Newsletter • Issue 4
Welcome to the fourth issue of the Timeless newsletter, with a cat! Or maybe not.
Un chat qui miaule???
It's true! The angry cat, a fundamental part of Timeless, has resulted in confusion and bug reports all across the projects and phabricator. And now it shall be immortalised forever in the new, shiny Timeless logo.
Updates:
After putting off the project for three months because I got hit in the head with a flight of stairs, and then putting off the project for another two months while working out what the status of the grant was, I have now put off the project even more in order to focus on my other project for a bit. So progress lately has been a bit whims-based as a result:
- The project now has a logo. For some reason.
- The angry cat in the background is now customisable! Behold: not a cat. What would you like to replace it with on your project?
- I broke, unbroke, and then sort of sideways broke all the form styles. Help.
Radar:
- The French Wiktionary voted to set Timeless as their default skin, with results possibly as you might expect: I ran away and hid, and the WMF said no. A bit of discussion later and we largely agreed that all else aside, this is a bit of a branding issue, but we love the enthusiasm! Also the bug reports that inevitably come out of such a discussion. I'm still working on properly going through those.
- Theme support is still stuck in limbo, but now we have another skinning RfC. tl;dr, we wanna replace the entire skinning system, and Skizzerz'll write a prototype later.
I will be fully resuming work on Timeless next week, or maybe the week after, depending on what madness (or illness) comes out of the Hackathon in Prague. Please come talk to me there to discuss strategy!
Call for submissions for the Community Growth space at Wikimania 2019
Welcome to a special newsletter from the Growth team! This special newsletter is not about Wikimedia Foundation Growth team projects. Instead, it is a call for submissions for the Community Growth space at Wikimania 2019. We think that many people who receive this newsletter may have something valuable to contribute to this space at Wikimania. We haven't translated the newsletter, because Wikimania's language is English.
Please see below for the message from the organizers of the Community Growth space at Wikimania.
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Wikimania 2019 is organized into 19 “spaces”, which are all accepting proposals for sessions. This message comes from the team organizing the Community Growth space.
Since you are interested b Growth team projects, and potentially involved in welcoming newcomers initiatives on your wiki, we would like to invite you to submit a proposal to the Community Growth space because of the actions you’ve done around newcomers on wikis. The deadline for submission is June 1. See below for Community Growth submission topics and session formats. Topics and sessions have to be in English.
In the Community Growth space, we will come together for discussions, presentations, and workshops that address these questions:
- What is and is not working around attracting and retaining newcomers?
- How should Wikimedia activities evolve to help communities grow and flourish?
- How should our technology and culture evolve to help new populations to come online, participate and become community members?
Recommended topics: please see this link for the list for the list of recommended topics. If you do not plan to submit a proposal, you can also suggest additional topics here. If your topic does not fit into our space, remember that there are 18 other spaces that could welcome you sharing your knowledge and perspective.
Types of session. We prefer sessions that are participatory, interactive, promote conversations, and give a voice to parts of our movement that are heard less often. Please see this link for the list of recommended session formats.
Poster submissions. Posters are also a good way to introduce a topic, or show some results of an action. Please consider submitting one!
More information about the Community Growth space, topics, and submission formats is available on the proposal page.
Please submit your proposal. The reviews will happen at the beginning of June.
If you have questions about Wikimania in general, please ask them on the Wikimania wiki.
On behalf of the Community Growth leadership team, Trizek (WMF), 11:44, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.18
Hello Ammarpad,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
- Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
- Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
- Reliable Sources for NPP
Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
- Backlog drive coming soon
Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
- News
- Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.
- Discussions of interest
- A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
- There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
- What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like
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i surely hope if my english was more skillful
if i do not know how to say a certain word or word in english, then is it allowed to help yourself in using google translate? i know that some websites are against rules, is that so? (i'm really right now so if there is no permission then please avoid punishment.Atlantic Channel (talk) 21:31, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Your question has been answered at various places. Please do not ask same question at multiple places. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:07, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Harassment
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Says-The "See also" section should not link to pages that do not exist (red links), nor to disambiguation pages (unless used for further disambiguation in a disambiguation page). As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes.[9]
The note[1] reads- The community has rejected past proposals to do away with this "rule" or to add text reminding editors that, as a general rule, it has exceptions. See, for example, this RfC.[2]
The NBC Navbox at the bottom of the page links to those articles....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:58, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- "As a general rule" is not a prohibition and that's why the guideline itself further made it clear
"See also" section is ultimately a matter of editorial judgment and common sense
. I have started discussion at the talkpage, please respond there. – Ammarpad (talk) 14:27, 20 May 2019 (UTC)- Read the RFC I linked to. Community consensus was against changing the rules for See also. You can't go to the article talk page, this is a Wikipedia community wide consensus....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:32, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- That's quite incorrect and misinterpretation of guideline. The guideline page WP:SEEALSO which is the codification of the RfC does not say "this is a fundamental policy and cannot be overridden at talkpages." It says quite the opposite:
"See also" section is ultimately a matter of editorial judgment and common sense
. It appears you're against using that common senses, fine, I will not fight for it. But please don't use sophistic argument to bend policies to suit your preferences. – Ammarpad (talk) 15:11, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- That's quite incorrect and misinterpretation of guideline. The guideline page WP:SEEALSO which is the codification of the RfC does not say "this is a fundamental policy and cannot be overridden at talkpages." It says quite the opposite:
- Read the RFC I linked to. Community consensus was against changing the rules for See also. You can't go to the article talk page, this is a Wikipedia community wide consensus....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:32, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 31 May 2019
- From the editors: Picture that
- News and notes: Wikimania and trustee elections
- In the media: Politics, lawsuits and baseball
- Discussion report: Admin abuse leads to mass-desysop proposal on Azerbaijani Wikipedia
- Arbitration report: ArbCom forges ahead
- Technology report: Lots of Bots
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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Notability (academics)
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RE: Welcome
Thanks for the guidelines.
(Habibaliyu (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 23:27, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Arroyo Penasco formation
There seems to be no controversy about moving the page to Arroyo Penasco Group, but as I understand the rules, I shouldn't close the discussion myself. Are you willing to do that? --Kent G. Budge (talk) 00:56, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Request for Help
Hi, I am apparently a very new User. I was working on a bunch of articles, which I think, fall under the respective notability clauses for being the subject of a Wikipedia page. Whilst I was still developing those articles, a reviewer reviewed those pages, which, in my opinion, are contrary to Wikipedia guidelines. You have recently visited one of those pages. If you would respond and revisit the rest I would appreciate it very much. Mosesheron Mosesheron (talk) 09:17, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Mosesheron I am afraid, I don't have any special powers to help you on the articles you're creating or to police reviewers who are reviewing the articles. I only removed the tag on that article because it was clearly not warranted. However I would advise you to make sure the articles you're creating comply with all our content policies and then if you disagree with action by any user or reviewer you should try to engage them directly on their talkpage and discuss the issue. – Ammarpad (talk) 15:49, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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ITN recognition for Nechama Rivlin
On 8 June 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Nechama Rivlin, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.
Thanks!
Thanks for your help today! Also I'd never heard of Hausa language until today - happy to've learned that! Dr. Vogel (talk) 21:17, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
- Indeed there are many of them. I wonder what magnitude of chaos we would have to endure if we don't have a common language to interact. Na gode. :). – Ammarpad (talk) 04:29, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Membership renewal
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Growth team updates #8
Welcome to the eighth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
May was a busy month, and we apologize for a slightly late newsletter.
General news
- The Growth team will begin to work with the Arabic Wikipedia community as a new target wiki. This is in addition to Korean, Czech, and Vietnamese Wikipedias.
- Several members of the Growth team attended Wikimedia Hackathon. To see what we worked on and learned, read this update (in English).
- Wikimania 2019 is coming up in August. The conference will include a "Community Growth" space, for sessions about how our communities expand through software and programs.
Early results from newcomer homepage release
- The newcomer homepage was deployed in Czech and Korean Wikipedias on May 6 for desktop users. It is deployed in an A/B test, so that half of newcomers have access to the homepage and half do not. They access it by clicking on their username in their personal tools along the top of the window.
- After about a month of usage, we see a few interesting trends. We think that the usage is going well so far, as we continue to work on the feature
- About half of users who visit the homepage click on a link or button.
- About half of users visit the homepage more than once, with about a fifth of users visiting on multiple days.
- Users are interacting with all the different modules on the page -- there is no clear favorite.
- Users have been asking questions to their mentors -- but not on the help desk.
Next steps for homepage
- Because we are seeing good reactions to the homepage from the first users, we are prioritizing work that helps more users find their homepage:
- Mobile homepage: the team is currently building the mobile version of the homepage. We tested this design with five users, giving us confidence that the design is strong.
- Features to aid discovery: only a minority of newcomers who have a homepage will find their homepage on their own. The team is designing features that help newcomers learn where to find their homepage. The most important feature will point to the homepage link using a GuidedTour.
- User tests showed that the most important thing to add to the homepage are clear task recommendations to help newcomers get started with editing right away. This is the module that we will be working on next.
Future of team in the next year
- The Growth team has been working since September 2018, and we're now planning for the work we'll be doing for the next fiscal year, which begins in July.
- Though we have not yet developed a feature that clearly increases growth in our target wikis, we believe that the features we have been developing have high potential to increase growth if we continue to work on them.
- Therefore, the team will continue to work on the features we have started, and we will develop related features that improve the overall newcomer experience. These features may include:
- Improvements to how newcomers can build their user pages and develop their on-wiki identity. See initial notes here.
- Improvements to how newcomers receive notifications on-wiki and through email, so that they quickly find out if other users are contacting them.
- Processes that help newcomers get awards or recognition for good work.
- Ways for newcomers to see the activity on the wiki and find others who share their interests.
- We will start discussions with communities to help us define these ideas before we work on them.
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The Bugle: Issue CLVIII, June 2019
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Can I do this?
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I've nominated you for a gift from the Wikimedia Foundation! |
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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019
Hello Ammarpad,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.
- QUALITY of REVIEWING
Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.
- Backlog
The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.
- Move to draft
NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.
- Notifying users
Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.
- PERM
Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.
- Other news
School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
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The June 2019 Signpost is out!
- Discussion report: A constitutional crisis hits English Wikipedia
- News and notes: Mysterious ban, admin resignations, Wikimedia Thailand rising
- In the media: The disinformation age
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
- Traffic report: Juneteenth, Beauty Revealed, and more nuclear disasters
- Technology report: Actors and Bots
- Special report: Did Fram harass other editors?
- Recent research: What do editors do after being blocked?; the top mathematicians, universities and cancers according to Wikipedia
- From the archives: Women and Wikipedia: the world is watching
- In focus: WikiJournals: A sister project proposal
- Community view: A CEO biography, paid for with taxes
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Speedy deletion nomination
Can you explain why you think that User:Levi Baker Coach doesn't satisfy either of the criteria I gave? I am completely bewildered. Yhto Plwhm (talk) 21:42, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- The page does not meet either U5 or G11. It's just information about himself and link to his social media accounts, that's allowed in userpages. I also did not see anything that's being promoted, so definitely not G11. However you're free to retag it, if you disagree... it's late night over here, so don't expect further response from me in the next several hours. Thanks. – Ammarpad (talk) 21:48, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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Meant No Harm (Correct Version)
Hello Ammarpad,
I'm sorry I meant no harm. My little experience with the article University of Benin revealed to me that some of those things in the Article Ahmadu Bello University are promotional.
You can, however, take your time to go through the former article and see what the User:Theroadislong did to it University of Benin. Although some were constructive while other actions by the aforementioned user were less constructive.
If you could help in restoring some of the sections in the article University of Benin, please do.
And if you could help me to understand how Wikipedia works, I'll be grateful.
Thanks! Zizikuli (talk) 07:30, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- You've been warned by at least 5 different editors, 6 including me and you always blank the warning maybe thinking it's no longer visible. That certainly shows there are problems with your editing. If you're looking for what do, go to Category:Wikipedia backlog and look for various issues that need fixing. Desist from doing what you're warned for. – Ammarpad (talk) 08:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CLIX, July 2019
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Editing News #1—July 2019
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Did you know?
Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?
Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon 
to start editing.
Edit Cards
This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.
Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.
Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.
Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:
Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?
If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.
Follow these instructions and share your experience:
Recent releases
The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team has recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:
- Section editing
- The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
- The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
- Loading overlay
- The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.
Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.
New and active projects
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mobileUndo
Hello, recently FR30799386 was blocked for sock puppetry. The left behind few of their scripts. DannyS712 has copied the scripts, and has taken over maintaining them. It appears that you currently importing an outdated version of import FR30799386's mobileUndo, and I thought that you might want to import an updated and maintained version. The outdated version you are currently importing has some bugs. Those bugs have been fixed by the original creator and DannyS712 synced their version of the script with it. Also FR is currently rewritting and updating this script on meta-wiki per this advice as well as adding new features. Please copy one of the following codes and replace it with the code you currently have in your Special:MyPage/minerva.js or Special:MyPage/common.js to import this script. Thank you. Masum Reza📞 15:54, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
mw.loader.load('//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:DannyS712/Undo.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');– Stable versionmw.loader.load('//meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:FR30799386/undo.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');– Beta version - Major UI improvements - Might has some bugs. Please help by sending bug reports to meta:User_talk:FR30799386 if you find any. 16:31, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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Growth team updates #9
Welcome to the ninth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
Opening Growth features to more wikis
The Growth team has existed for about one year. During that time, we have developed several features that we think can help increase retention. Though we are still gathering data to detect scientifically whether the features increase retention, we think that some of the features are ready to be deployed on more wikis that want to experiment with them. If your community is enthusiastic about welcoming newcomers, we encourage you to contact us so that we can verify together if your wiki is eligible.
Then, go through the checklist to start the process of getting these features:
- Help panel: allow newcomers to find help and ask questions while they edit.
- Welcome survey: learn what topics and types of edits newcomers are interested in.
- EditorJourney: learn what workflows newcomers go through on their first day.
General news
- A new quarter of the year has started, and the team has set our goals for the next three months. The most important goals are:
- Newcomer homepage: increase activity through a task recommendations module. Now that we have seen several weeks of positive activity on the newcomer homepage, we think that the most important thing to add is a way for newcomers to find tasks to work on. The challenge will be recommending the right kind of tasks at the right point of their journey.
- Newcomer homepage: increase feature discovery rate by 100%. Right now, only 20% - 30% of newcomers ever visit their homepage. We want to double that number by making sure all newcomers know how to find it.
- Help panel: increase usefulness through improvements to affordance, search, and UX flow. We have looked closely at data and anecdotes from the usage of the help panel, and we plan to pursue specific improvements to increase its effectiveness (see accompanying image of a feature that helps newcomers find responses to their questions).
- Wikimania is coming up next month, which includes a "Community Growth" space. We hope to see people from all communities there to talk about how to bring newcomers into our movement.
- We have started to deploy features to our team's fourth target wiki: Arabic Wikipedia. That wiki is the biggest one we target, it has a high percentage of mobile users, and also is our first right-to-left language. This will help us make sure that our features are valuable for as many types of users as possible.
Mobile homepage and early analysis
- The mobile version of the newcomer homepage was deployed to Czech, Korean, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. Now, newcomers can access their homepage from both desktop and mobile devices.
- We have published our first set of data about the performance of the newcomer homepage. In summary, we are happy with the homepage's performance so far. We see about half of visitors clicking on something, and the majority of them returning to the homepage multiple times.
- Because we see positive usage of the homepage, we will deploy several small features in the next two weeks that help more newcomers discover their homepage (see accompanying image of a feature that helps newcomers discover their homepage from their empty Contributions page).
- As listed in our goals above, we'll be starting to focus on adding task recommendations to the newcomer homepage. We'll be publishing early thoughts on this feature so that community members can give their thoughts and advice.
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Technical Move request
Hi, I didn't understand your comment:
title is not capitalized, if you want rename it still, open RM request
I opened a Technical Request because that page is already occupied with a redirect page or I would move it myself. The article is about a professional certification so all the words in the name are capitalized in the official spelling. I understand that article titles are not normally capitalized except for the first letter but this article title is a proper noun. HiMyNameIsFrancesca (talk) 04:04, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
This was the request:
- Certified nurse midwife (currently a redirect to Certified nurse-midwife) → Certified Nurse-Midwife (currently a redirect instead to Certified nurse-midwife) – credential should be capitalized and job is midwife or nurse midwife HiMyNameIsFrancesca (talk) 16:42, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, @HiMyNameIsFrancesca: I've checked some few similar titles before removing the request, because some people don't want their declined request to be converted to RM directly. Being a professional certification is not enough reason to capitalize the words nor the "official spelling" argument. Compare for instance similar certifications; Certified mortgage consultant, Certified first responder, Certified management consultant and equally comparable titles: Chief executive officer as well as Chief financial officer. In all, only the first letter is capitalized. I do note, however, some are treated as proper nouns and duly capitalized like Certified Public Accountant, but they're very few (which I can find), so we need to have consistency on which style to use to avoid back-and-forth moves and proper RM request is better place for such discussion. – Ammarpad (talk) 08:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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A bowl of strawberries for you!
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Hi Ammarpad
Would you mind relisting this one? It seems to have had very low turnout, and the proposed title was already rejected in a 2015 RM as not satisfying WP:THE. I would Oppose this move.Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 19:11, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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Unbekannter z34-56r-ghf-aq2-d0r
Presumably this is German for "Unknown", as if the account got renamed from something else. It's really weird to see someone with this username show up and explain what "Renamed user mou89p43twvqcvm8ut9w3" means :-) Meanwhile, can you guess what happened with this edit? It's just six days ago that you made it, but somehow the timestamp is 26 June. Nyttend (talk) 01:35, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks Nyttend, I admit I know nothing about German. Well, that datestamp looks quite odd and I just realized it was caused by my laziness. When I decided to leave them that note, instead of typing it, I remember similar edit of mine (this 26 June edit to a different user talk) so I just copied it with intention to change few words and the datestamp. I did changed 'clumsy' to 'awkward,' but somehow I forgot about the datestamp. I redated it now to prevent further confusion. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:27, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
DJ Arafat
Hi there, Any help in improving the refs at DJ Arafat will be appreciated. It is up for WP:ITNC --DBigXrayᗙ 05:52, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Edit-warring at Al Seckel
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Al Seckel; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
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- I am not in edit warring with anybody. It's you who is editwarring and and misusing rollback. I left you a personally written reminder, you didn't like it and reverted it and then you decide to send me this unwarranted warning perhaps to feign innocence. I will not revert you, because I don't editwar even on my talkpage. – Ammarpad (talk) 17:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for intervening concerning the mess at Al Seckel. I had given up on trying to improve the article and taken it off my watchlist, so I learned of your intervention only after you posted on the EL noticeboard. Your ANI was closed with a 24 hour block before I got a chance to comment, so I added some comments at the closed ANI anyway. Jimbo Wales himself told @Ronz: to stop editing that article in 2015, but now 4 years later, Ronz effectively owns that article, where he adds nothing of value and edits only to remove anything that supports Seckel's notability. HouseOfChange (talk) 21:07, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- They now promise if they're unblocked they'll self revert and not remove it again until consensus says so. So we now have to wait and see. – Ammarpad (talk) 21:24, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- I think he can be pretty confident that local consensus will support removing any material that supports the notability of Al Seckel. Take a look at the recent talk page. HouseOfChange (talk) 21:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- They now promise if they're unblocked they'll self revert and not remove it again until consensus says so. So we now have to wait and see. – Ammarpad (talk) 21:24, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for intervening concerning the mess at Al Seckel. I had given up on trying to improve the article and taken it off my watchlist, so I learned of your intervention only after you posted on the EL noticeboard. Your ANI was closed with a 24 hour block before I got a chance to comment, so I added some comments at the closed ANI anyway. Jimbo Wales himself told @Ronz: to stop editing that article in 2015, but now 4 years later, Ronz effectively owns that article, where he adds nothing of value and edits only to remove anything that supports Seckel's notability. HouseOfChange (talk) 21:07, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
My apologies
Hi Ammarpad. I'm very sorry our recent (first?) interaction went so poorly. I should not have used rollback on your revert, and should have worked on de-escalating the situation at that time.
If you'd like, I could clarify my perspective on the situation further. Basically, I was rather upset to see what I thought was some very good progress [3][4] being disrupted. --Ronz (talk) 14:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Ronz for this retrospection. My involvement in this whole situation was clearly in good faith that's why I sent you a personally-written message in an attempt to de-escalate the situation early on. But you were quite agitated at the time and that led to all that happened afterwards.
- There are some issues which I'd rather prefer us not relitigate them, since this issue is all over but this was not progress and certainly not 'very good progress.' The user sought comment on a legitimate issue [5] but ended up receiving a completely off-topic response [6]; he appeared naive and couldn't figure the apparent inaptness of the response to what he actually asked. It was clear too, either the respondent didn't understood the question or was posting to a wrong thread.
- At the time I was also disturbed by the fact that you were implying (in edit summary) that {{TED speaker}} was a spamlink. The link was/is not spam and it (or a variation) has been in the article since 2007. So there really has to be good reasons for removing it and not by claiming it's a spam and reverting/rollbacking everyone who disagrees with you.
- As you can see I have already told HouseOfChange my stand above:
If consensus says the link should be removed then so be it. It's useful, but not necessary in my view
. So let's all move on and continue this discussion this on the article's talk page if necessary. Thanks. – Ammarpad (talk) 20:47, 14 August 2019 (UTC)- I guess we fundamentally disagree with what good progress is. Respecting other editors' viewpoints at ELN is very good progress in my viewpoint.
- I wrote
borders on linkspam
because of the general problems with such links, and the problems specific to the article. - Seems your focus has been on editors rather than content. It was disruptive. --Ronz (talk) 21:42, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- That's true. I think we have to agree to disagree. And it'd be good if you stop using emotionally-charged language like "disruptive". What I did was not disruptive and Bbb23 has already told you that. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:26, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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Errant notification
I'm not sure how this happened either. Twinkle correctly notified the creator of the redirect but for some reason also posted a notification at Wikipedia:Teahouse? I haven't encountered anything like that before. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 17:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- Lord Bolingbroke, I found what caused it. I know sometimes ago Twinkle was modified to notify target of redirect (the talkpage) about deletion discussion. The redirect you nominated Welcome, newcomers redirects to Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia and incidentally the talkpage of that page is a redirect to Teahouse. That's why Twinkle sent the notification to Teahouse. It's really not easy to figure out. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:33, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- Lol, what a convoluted system of redirects! Good job figuring out what was going on. Posting a notification on the talk page of the redirect target seems like a good idea to me. This setup of redirects is so specific that I can't think of any cases where a notification would be misplaced like this again. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:57, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!
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The Teamwork Barnstar |
| Hello Ammarpad.
I want to thank you for your help years back during my first edit on Wiki. You saved me from the claws of folks who tried hard to tag my article for deletion. I have another article i would want you to share your opinion on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Femi_Adeoti Thank you for your help. Shokoyokoto NG (talk) 12:39, 3 September 2019 (UTC) |
- @Shokoyokoto NG: Let me assist you and do one or two things on the page Nnadigoodluck (talk) 13:33, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Check for Copyright Violations
Hello, hope you're doing good.
I created 3 fresh pages just today which are Amar Dedić, Emmanuel Michael and Bryan Okoh.
I'll like you to review and check them, to make sure I'm not violating copyrights.
Thanks. Nnadigoodluck (talk) 13:16, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, Nnadigoodluck, I will take a look, but you can easily check any article with tools like Earwig CopyVio detector, and as the original author, you should be sure that you didn't copy text from anywhere, irrespective of whether the tool detects that or not, – Ammarpad (talk) 07:18, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Ammarpad: Thanks a lot Nnadigoodluck (talk) 08:34, 7 September 2019 (UTC)