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Tech News: 2019-03Edit

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Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)Edit

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A bowl of strawberries for you!Edit

  for helping fellow editors in reducing the backlog at WP:RMT DBigXray 06:08, 6 August 2019 (UTC)


Hi Ammarpad

Would you mind relisting this one? It seems to have had very low turnout, and the proposed title was already rejected in a 2015 RM as not satisfying WP:THE. I would Oppose this move.Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 19:11, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

actually on second thoughts, never mind. Just leave it. I see I actually was persuaded to support the move in 2015 so I don't actually object!  — Amakuru (talk) 19:14, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Noting here that I edit-conflicted with your second edit. – Ammarpad (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Penny RowsonEdit

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Unbekannter z34-56r-ghf-aq2-d0rEdit

Presumably this is German for "Unknown", as if the account got renamed from something else. It's really weird to see someone with this username show up and explain what "Renamed user mou89p43twvqcvm8ut9w3" means :-) Meanwhile, can you guess what happened with this edit? It's just six days ago that you made it, but somehow the timestamp is 26 June. Nyttend (talk) 01:35, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Nyttend, I admit I know nothing about German. Well, that datestamp looks quite odd and I just realized it was caused by my laziness. When I decided to leave them that note, instead of typing it, I remember similar edit of mine (this 26 June edit to a different user talk) so I just copied it with intention to change few words and the datestamp. I did changed 'clumsy' to 'awkward,' but somehow I forgot about the datestamp. I redated it now to prevent further confusion. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:27, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Edit-warring at Al SeckelEdit

  You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Al Seckel; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. --Ronz (talk) 17:18, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

I am not in edit warring with anybody. It's you who is editwarring and and misusing rollback. I left you a personally written reminder, you didn't like it and reverted it and then you decide to send me this unwarranted warning perhaps to feign innocence. I will not revert you, because I don't editwar even on my talkpage. – Ammarpad (talk) 17:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for intervening concerning the mess at Al Seckel. I had given up on trying to improve the article and taken it off my watchlist, so I learned of your intervention only after you posted on the EL noticeboard. Your ANI was closed with a 24 hour block before I got a chance to comment, so I added some comments at the closed ANI anyway. Jimbo Wales himself told @Ronz: to stop editing that article in 2015, but now 4 years later, Ronz effectively owns that article, where he adds nothing of value and edits only to remove anything that supports Seckel's notability. HouseOfChange (talk) 21:07, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
They now promise if they're unblocked they'll self revert and not remove it again until consensus says so. So we now have to wait and see. – Ammarpad (talk) 21:24, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
I think he can be pretty confident that local consensus will support removing any material that supports the notability of Al Seckel. Take a look at the recent talk page. HouseOfChange (talk) 21:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
If consensus says the link should be removed then so be it. It's useful, but not necessary in my view. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

DJ ArafatEdit

Hi there, Any help in improving the refs at DJ Arafat will be appreciated. It is up for WP:ITNC --DBigXray 05:52, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi DBigXray, I will take a look, though I am a bit busy today. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:06, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

My apologiesEdit

Hi Ammarpad. I'm very sorry our recent (first?) interaction went so poorly. I should not have used rollback on your revert, and should have worked on de-escalating the situation at that time.

If you'd like, I could clarify my perspective on the situation further. Basically, I was rather upset to see what I thought was some very good progress [9][10] being disrupted. --Ronz (talk) 14:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Ronz for this retrospection. My involvement in this whole situation was clearly in good faith that's why I sent you a personally-written message in an attempt to de-escalate the situation early on. But you were quite agitated at the time and that led to all that happened afterwards.
There are some issues which I'd rather prefer us not relitigate them, since this issue is all over but this was not progress and certainly not 'very good progress.' The user sought comment on a legitimate issue [11] but ended up receiving a completely off-topic response [12]; he appeared naive and couldn't figure the apparent inaptness of the response to what he actually asked. It was clear too, either the respondent didn't understood the question or was posting to a wrong thread.
At the time I was also disturbed by the fact that you were implying (in edit summary) that {{TED speaker}} was a spamlink. The link was/is not spam and it (or a variation) has been in the article since 2007. So there really has to be good reasons for removing it and not by claiming it's a spam and reverting/rollbacking everyone who disagrees with you.
As you can see I have already told HouseOfChange my stand above: If consensus says the link should be removed then so be it. It's useful, but not necessary in my view. So let's all move on and continue this discussion this on the article's talk page if necessary. Thanks. – Ammarpad (talk) 20:47, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
I guess we fundamentally disagree with what good progress is. Respecting other editors' viewpoints at ELN is very good progress in my viewpoint.
I wrote borders on linkspam because of the general problems with such links, and the problems specific to the article.
Seems your focus has been on editors rather than content. It was disruptive. --Ronz (talk) 21:42, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
That's true. I think we have to agree to disagree. And it'd be good if you stop using emotionally-charged language like "disruptive". What I did was not disruptive and Bbb23 has already told you that. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:26, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
That's true. I think we have to agree to disagree. On even more it seems.
I was wrong to use rollback, which set off the whole situation. I take responsibility for that. My apologies.
I also learned the formal definition of "revert". A good lesson. --Ronz (talk) 15:40, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:39, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019Edit

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Errant notificationEdit

I'm not sure how this happened either. Twinkle correctly notified the creator of the redirect but for some reason also posted a notification at Wikipedia:Teahouse? I haven't encountered anything like that before. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 17:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Lord Bolingbroke, I found what caused it. I know sometimes ago Twinkle was modified to notify target of redirect (the talkpage) about deletion discussion. The redirect you nominated Welcome, newcomers redirects to Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia and incidentally the talkpage of that page is a redirect to Teahouse. That's why Twinkle sent the notification to Teahouse. It's really not easy to figure out. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:33, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Lol, what a convoluted system of redirects! Good job figuring out what was going on. Posting a notification on the talk page of the redirect target seems like a good idea to me. This setup of redirects is so specific that I can't think of any cases where a notification would be misplaced like this again. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:57, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, that's true. – Ammarpad (talk) 19:32, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:DisambiguationEdit

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A cup of tea for you!Edit

  Thanks for your support for my unsuccessful RfA. It was much appreciated. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:02, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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