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List of Presidents of the United States by time in office

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Seems like you have a brilliant idea about why "Lincoln's Missing Bodyguard" has anything to do with James Garfield. Please share with the audience why. Stupidity is insisting that something wrong is right, and doing it more than once. 84.208.206.123 (talk) 13:28, 15 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Discuss it on the article's talk page. WaggersTALK 08:41, 16 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

"If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Waggers"

I ask you once again: What part of a book about Lincoln, two books actually, has anything to do with James Garfield?

84.208.206.123 (talk) 15:36, 16 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'm glad you're being more civil this time. I saw an edit that removed references without explaining why, other than a garbled rant in the edit summary; these edits were from an IP address not a registered user and had already been reverted several times, by several different editors. I don't think it was unreasonable on that evidence to revert what very much appeared to be an edit-warring IP vandal. Looking at the references in question, I think there is a good case for their removal. As I said above, I suggest you make that case on the article's talk page so that any interested editor can contribute. WaggersTALK 16:35, 16 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

I don't understand your arguments. I clearly stated that several of the references were WRONG!!! You did not bother to check, just clicked undo. In a previous attempt to correct the article I wrote:

"It is common knowledge that these presidents died in office. References about their deaths belongs in the article about the individual presidents. In addition: several of the links are just wrong. Especially Garfield."

The references don't serve any purposes. I have tried to change three times. I won't try a fourth. Not my fault that the Wikipedia police can't understand easy things. Just carry on with inaccurate articles. 84.208.206.123 (talk) 22:41, 16 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Another one for the trophy cabinet! Many thanks Insertcleverphrasehere. WaggersTALK 14:10, 30 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2017

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Reverted Ravenhill edit

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Hi, Waggers! I cut the line about Ravenhill working on a TV series as repetition because there was no sourcing for the comment and just a section or so down the page, there's a sourced listing for the actual TV series, Vicious. Rudeguerrilla (talk) 20:57, 12 December 2017 (UTC)RudeguerrillaReply

Lady Bird

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Hi, Waggers, sorry for that, it is now better, you can check it and see it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.209.30.179 (talk) 21:07, 12 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Nomination of Jason MacIntyre for deletion

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2018

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Thank you for your interest in using our tool. Sorry about the wait. We've been working on improving our tool in the past several weeks, and we will send recommendations to you very soon. Stay tuned. Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 23:19, 7 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Recommending new editors to your WP Hampshire

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Hi Waggers,

Our system generated a list of potential new editors for your project. They may be interested in collaborating with your project members on your project's articles. As you will notice, the list contains both experienced editors and newcomers. Both are valuable for Wikipedia and your project. Please go ahead and introduce your project to them, and point them to some project tasks to start with. We also provide a template invitation message to make it easier to contact the potential new editors. Just click the invite link to write the invitation message.

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Mjay0817 (talk · contribs) Mjay0817's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category People and Society, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2017-9-1 18 Newcomer invite survey
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Please let me know below if you have any general feedback about our recommendations. Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 05:23, 11 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hi Waggers, Just wonder if you had a chance to look at the recommendations I sent? Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 22:40, 12 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
Hi Waggers, I update the recommendation list sent to you earlier. I fixed some bugs in the previous version (as you might have seen that some editors on the previous list were not quite active). Very sorry about it, but now, everything should be good! Please take a look, and let me know what you think! Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 16:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

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The file File:Southampton Bassett Green.PNG has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Orphaned map.

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    • Hi User:BU Rob13, thanks for the heads-up. These maps were the best we had for a time but I agree there are now much more useful images available. I don't think they would particularly add any value by being moved to Commons; I could go through and speedy delete them under G7 (author requests deletion) but it's probably worthwhile giving other editors the opportunity to rescue them if they wish, so proposed deletion is probably still the best plan. This does make me realise just how long I've been working on Wikipedia and how much things have moved on in the last 12 years! WaggersTALK 09:23, 28 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
      • Indeed. These images were once extremely valuable, but as we've moved more towards maps generated by templates, they've mostly gone unused. In a sense, it shows how far we've come. I'm trying to clear out a lot of these old files to make it easier to maintain the file namespace, so you may get a couple more messages like this. ~ Rob13Talk 13:53, 28 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hi Waggers

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Hi Waggers, it would be great if you have a chance to take a look at the new editors I recommended to you. Thank you! I would also help invite some new members, but they are not the ones on this list. Bobo.03 (talk) 20:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – March 2018

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2018).

 

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Hiding quotes by Sally Miller Gearhart

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Could you please elaborate why we should censor out her controversial statements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kartu (talkcontribs) 08:25, 8 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Kartu: Hi Kartu. First up, we should definitely not censor her statements - Wikipedia is not censored. But we do have to be very careful to make sure that any controversial statements relating to a living person are properly sourced and referenced. Also we need to ensure that our articles read well, so inserting a controversial statement randomly into an article is not constructive. By all means, write a properly sourced, separate paragraph or section - but please take the time to make sure it is well researched, properly referenced, doesn't give undue weight to the controversy and the article flows well and maintains a neutral point of view. Hope that helps. WaggersTALK 08:30, 8 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
    Thanks for the quick reply, Waggers. Based on it I'm still confused what the issue actually is, as you mention several:
        * Is it "not properly sourced" (edit history shows that that has been addressed already) 
        * Does not suggestion to reduce population of one gender to 10% not important enough, to be included in summary? 
        * This part is clearly not neutral POV: "Gearhart does not base this radical proposal on the idea that men are innately violent or oppressive", we don't know, what she is basing it on, "male-bonding" being particularly "dangerous", is not mutually exclusive with men being "innately violent or oppressive".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kartu (talkcontribs) 10:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC)Reply 

Recommending new editors to WikiProject Hampshire

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Hi Waggers,

I am continuing to send you recommendations for project Hampshire. When you have a chance, please take a look. Thank you!

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Teresa Stokes (talk · contribs) Teresa Stokes's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Society and People, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2012-4-17 98 Newcomer invite survey
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PittsfieldPete (talk · contribs) PittsfieldPete's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Society and Arts, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2016-9-10 130 Experienced Editor invite survey

Bobo.03 (talk) 04:50, 10 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Thanks @Bobo.03:, some of these have already been invited and others aren't a great fit for the project so now new invitations sent this time around. WaggersTALK 12:27, 13 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Reason for deletation

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We recently noticed that a wiki about fanport has been deleted. Would like to know the reason behind deletion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanport this is the old link.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.110.219.119 (talk) 11:44, 18 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

@83.110.219.119: The article was deleted under criterion A7 of the Criteria for Speedy Deletion - the article did not indicate why its subject is important or significant. WaggersTALK 09:51, 19 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Signpost issue 4 – 29 March 2018

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Administrators' newsletter – April 2018

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2018).

 

  Administrator changes

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  Guideline and policy news

  • Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
  • Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
  • The notability guideline for organizations and companies has been substantially rewritten following the closure of this request for comment. Among the changes, the guideline more clearly defines the sourcing requirements needed for organizations and companies to be considered notable.
  • The six-month autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) ended on 14 March 2018. The post-trial research report has been published. A request for comment is now underway to determine whether the restrictions from ACTRIAL should be implemented permanently.

  Technical news

  Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.

  Miscellaneous

  • A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
  • The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.