Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts/Public art/Archive 3

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Naming conventions for public statues

See Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Visual_arts#Naming_conventions_for_public_statues. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:20, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Article titles

There is a discussion about titles for articles on statues etc at Wikipedia talk:Article titles which may be of interest. PamD 07:08, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

  • Please? We really need editors editing public art to be in the conversation. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:31, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
    • This one's tough. I'm waiting to see where we land, because many articles are likely going to need to be moved. I'm guilty of using several conventions because there was so much inconsistency, as well as differences based on region. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:53, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
      • I know. I pushed myself to say something. I think the conversation is important because new sculpture and other public art articles are coming, and they may be titled haphazardly. A statement addressing the issues would be very useful. One question I have, does the art literature name these things differently to the public media? —SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:17, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Update, see Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Visual_arts#Naming_conventions_for_public_statues. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:25, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Lincoln Monument of Wabash, Indiana listed at Requested moves

 

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Lincoln Monument of Wabash, Indiana to be moved to Statue of Abraham Lincoln (Wabash, Indiana). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 21:05, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Outdoor sculpture in Washington, D.C.

 

An article which may be of interest to members of this project—Outdoor sculpture in Washington, D.C.—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Ham II (talk) 21:28, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Public art in Boston

Hello, fellow public art lovers. Ahead of the upcoming WikiConference North America, which will be held in Boston in November, I'm creating a project page listing public artworks in the city at Wikipedia:WikiProject Sculpture/Boston.

Surprisingly, there were only 6 Wikipedia articles about public art in Boston, before this month. So far I've created Boston Massacre Monument, Equestrian statue of Joseph Hooker, Statue of Charles Sumner (Boston), Statue of Charles Sumner (Cambridge, Massachusetts), and Statue of Wendell Phillips, as well as List of public art in Boston and Template:Public art in Boston. I'll be continuing work on Boston's public art in the next couple months and invite any project members to help out! Could be a fun little collaboration. :)

Thanks, and happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:52, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Task force?

Should WikiProject Public Art be converted into a task force of WikiProject Visual arts?

The necessity of this project has been questioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sculpture. I'm not advocating for merging or maintaining a standalone project, but I'm pinging folks in Category:WikiProject Public art participants for feedback.

Extended content

What do project members prefer? Pros and cons for merging vs. staying independent? Let's discuss! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:44, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Draft:List of graffiti and street art injuries and deaths

Please discuss at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Graffiti#Draft:List_of_graffiti_and_street_art_injuries_and_deaths. Thanks AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:04, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Notice of AfD

  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bust of Vasil Levski regarding deletion that may be of interest to this project. Thank you. --‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 16:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Statue of Christopher Columbus (Chula Vista, California) at AfD

Feedback welcome, ---Another Believer (Talk) 12:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Status

I see User:Tom (LT) has marked this project as "semi-active". Do any project members object? Thoughts on converting to a task force? Hard for me to accept there's limited interest in public art on Wikipedia. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:14, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

I think this project saw it's heyday when we started it initially, years and years ago. At this point I'd just merge it into WP Visual art. Missvain (talk) 16:10, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping, I hope that status update was not taken too hard - I just happened to notice there was not that much activity in these parts. To be honest I think task forces are often better for these sorts of clearly defined areas. That’s because there’s more editors that can become involved and because the time spent maintaining a task force vs project is much less. Au revoir! (Please ping me if you are going to reply :) ), --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:24, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

United States Capitol art

A few of us are interested in overhauling United States Capitol art, National Statuary Hall Collection, and Sculptures of the National Statuary Hall Collection. Please join us if you're interested! All improvements and talk page suggestions/discussions welcome. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:45, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Statue of Elizabeth II (Winnipeg)

Nominated for deletion: Statue of Elizabeth II (Winnipeg) ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:05, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

National Garden of American Heroes

Project members may be interested in improving National Garden of American Heroes. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:29, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Advice sought on copyright ownership and public sculptures

The State of Minnesota owns the copyright as well as the sculptures of the memorials on the Minnesota State Capitol Mall lawn. While they are understandably not willing to release the copyright of the sculptures there is interest in providing high-resolution photos of the monuments to Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons on the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license for Wikipedia and the public to use. I have been looking around to see what forms or protocol needs to be completed for this to happen but I have not been successful. Do you know of how to go about this? or what forms are needed? Is this even possible? Myotus (talk) 17:58, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Public art in Salt Lake City

Just sharing a recently created list: List of public art in Salt Lake City

Additions and other improvements welcome. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:15, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

 

Hello,
Please note that History of art, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of the Articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
Delivered by MusikBot talk 00:05, 13 September 2021 (UTC) on behalf of the AFI team

Mural of Marcus Rashford

New stub! Mural of Marcus Rashford ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:17, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

 

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests#Requested move 10 July 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.  — Shibbolethink ( ) 01:58, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Monument to Bulbul at AfD

FYI: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monument to Bulbul ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:03, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Folks watchlist Wikipedia:WikiProject Public Art/Article alerts, I hope. Vexations (talk) 12:13, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Someone one wants to delete Pedimental sculptures in Canada

So please come on over and offer an opinion. Carptrash (talk) 05:16, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Request for inputs

Greetings,

Hi, I'm User:Bookku a discussion about the sourced content is underway @ Talk:Minar-e-Pakistan#En masse public molestation and sexual violence against women. Your inputs are requested and awaited. Thanks and warm regards
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias are for expanding information and knowledge' (talk) 18:11, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Missing sculptor

Anyone interested in creating an article on Marc Mellon [1], American sculptor and creator of A Handshake for the Century and Statue of Kate Smith? (Pinging @MB: for info.) PamD 17:22, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Add "Our Lady of the Sierras" to statues list. Huachuca Mtns., Arizona

I noticed that the Our Lady of the Sierras shrine south of Sierra Vista, AZ in the Huachuca Mtns. is not on the list of statues in Wikipedia. See www.ourladyofthesierras.org or https://visit.sierravistaaz.gov › see-do › top-10 › our-lady-of-the-sierras

160.3.159.19 (talk) 22:51, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Abandoned Good article nomination

Is a project member interested in picking up the Good article nomination for Statue of Jefferson Davis (U.S. Capitol), which seems to have been abandoned? ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Good Article reassessment

  Resolved

Sacred Cod has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ɱ (talk) 04:56, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Update: Kept. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:16, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

GAR for Spirit of the American Doughboy

  Resolved

Spirit of the American Doughboy has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 13:58, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Update: Delisted. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:16, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

AfD: Pikachu (sculpture)

AfD: Pikachu (sculpture) ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:44, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Pillar of Shame in Hong Kong destroyed

Project members may be interested in the destruction of Pillar of Shame in Hong Kong. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:37, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

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It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

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This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

The Young Lincoln

In case you were wondering what Abe Lincoln looked like shirtless... ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

The Embrace (Boston)

The Embrace is getting a lot of attention, if any project members want to help improve. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:55, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Statue at AfD

---Another Believer (Talk) 03:52, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Georgia Guidestones

Got a lot of attention after it's bombing. Not often a public work gets 1.6 million hits on Wikipedia. the article needs work and it's quite messy. Harizotoh9 (talk) 04:16, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Request for comment

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Should WikiProject Public Art be converted into a task force of WikiProject Visual arts?

There does not seem to be much interest in keeping as a standalone WikiProject. --Another Believer (Talk) 14:13, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

  • I'd say yes, it seems there aren't active members anymore. P1221 (talk) 07:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Yes! It's not active enough to be a standalone WP and could benefit from instead being a task force of a larger WP. — Golden call me maybe? 17:38, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
  • It was always kept going by a couple of people. If they've left I don't see the point in calling it a "task force". Might as well mark it as inactive & refer people to the main VA project. I was never all that happy with the distinction anyway. Almost all the art we cover is "public" in most senses. Johnbod (talk) 23:18, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
  • I assume the practical advantage of this is that it would reduce the number of talk page banners; currently the talk page for an article on a public sculpture is going to have {{WikiProject Public Art}}, {{WikiProject Sculpture}} and {{WikiProject Visual arts}} (and no doubt some have missed one or more, so a merger would help there). I would welcome a reduction in the number of these. The only thing is that this WikiProject has task forces of its own; most are moribund but I still use Wikipedia:WikiProject Public Art/London (WP:PALon) quite heavily, particularly the Wikidata lists there. So if this project were made a task force of WP:WPVA the talk page banner for articles in that task force would read "WikiProject Visual arts / Public Art / London". (The switch there from sentence-case "Visual arts" to title-case "Public Art" is unfortunate.) I don't know whether three levels of project instead of two would cause problems. (Extra-long page names for sub-pages of WP:PALon? What do you call a task force of a task force?) It might be more straightforward to make WP:SCULPT a task force of WP:WPVA instead – again, the only practical difference I know of would be one less talk page banner. Ham II (talk) 07:38, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
@Ham II: I see how this complicates things for PALon. Though, PALon could become a task force of WikiProject London, if that's easier (Wikipedia:WikiProject London/Public art). Just a thought. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
@Another Believer: Good point, and one I hadn't thought of. Possibly some PALon articles haven't been tagged with {{WikiProject London}}, so a merger might help there, too. And I see that {{WikiProject New York City}} has long had a parameter for Wikipedia:WikiProject Public Art/NYC (which was apparently never linked to from the home page or the task forces page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Public Art!!). Ham II (talk) 06:49, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
The problem with all these zombie projects is that people see the banner, & may ask a question etc on Project talk, where nothing is likely to happen. The Sculpture one is marked "semi-active" - a considerable overstatement imo. Johnbod (talk) 20:40, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Not opposed to having a similar merge discussion for WikiProject Sculpture, but perhaps one thing at a time. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:33, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Update: FYI, I've asked for assistance converting this WikiProject into a task force over at the admin noticeboard. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:59, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.