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• Wrestling at the 2018 Asian Games
• Wrestling at the 2018 Summer Youth Olympics
• Wrestling at the 2019 European Games
• Wrestling at the 2019 Pan American Games

– these are all irrelevant to Wrestling at the 2020 Summer Olympics. Why 2018-2019 anyway? Pelmeen10 (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

These are not irrelevant. See also is a section to link related articles, and these are somewhat related to the topic at hand. The ones listed are the last events held before Tokyo 2020. The Youth Olympics one can go, but the continental ones should stay. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:11, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

I have reverted, again, your edit to Rowing at the 2020 Summer Olympics. Your edit summary talked of past precedence. Rowing at the 2016 Summer Olympics#See also does not include the previous year's Pan-American Games (nor any other year's, nor any other continental games), nor would it have been reasonable to do so. Similarly for 2012, 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, ... --David Biddulph (talk) 22:29, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

That's because the previous editor went ahead and removed them... Those events are all related. Under the IOC banner. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:35, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

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Short track speed skating at the 2020 Winter Youth Olympics

Why did you restore my edit? All changes are based on the following source: https://www.isu.org/docman-documents-links-2/2020-yog-lausanne/related-documents-2/22818-isu-communication-2294-1/file as I mentioned in the edit. Nimrodbr (talk) 16:31, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry I was not meaning to remove your edits. I was trying to see the changes you made so I could incorporate them into the table without a separate section. Do you think reallocation needs a separate section? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:50, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

For me, the topic of reallocation is immaterial. My personal opinion is that this should be presented separately because the nations that get the quota from reallocation - get the quota because another nation refused and not just because of their position in the qualification competition. Nimrodbr (talk) 08:16, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

In this case this is precisely the reason those three nations got quotas. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:31, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

296

hi. i add all of events : 296 not 306 . can you have a other source?Oumsenact (talk) 20:39, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Someone removed archery (10 events) from the list of sports. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Kumar Panta

Hello Sportsfan 1234,
I saw the tag you kept in this article for deletion of it because of un-notable person but you should know that President of NRN is not so small deal. He is also notable person because he had done many development work in Nepal. He and his team has created home for a vast village also.. So, I request you for deleting the log there.👌Rawal Bishal👍 (talk) 14:49, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

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Sorry for hear this about the edits. I am not a rude person as I don't violate and disrupt every other article I edit politely that I can take responsible edits to avoid redirect links that use the target links to have been used. ApprenticeFan ^work 00:12, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on the performing arts

I’ve seen you recently added a section about professional wrestling on Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on the performing arts. However, wrestling is not a form of performing arts. Therefore, I removed that section from Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on the performing arts.

That section belongs to Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on games and sports, please place the wrestling section on that page, it sure will help that page a lot! Corachow (talk) 03:59, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Its not a sport either... Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:16, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

European water polo championship

???? What's your problem?? I put you a REAL source from official LEN site, not from your sportsfan123 amateur site and is this a problem?!

So, whatch, AGAIN, metals table from the last european championship. All medals from Yugoslavia belongs to Serbia, all medals from USSR belongs to RUSSIA!

If you continue to change this, i will find a way to stopped you, like in FIVB European championship too.

OFFICIAL SOURCE FROM LEN https://wp2020budapest.com/european-water-polo-championships/ BudvaMontenegro (talk) 00:44, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Per consensus the winner of the event is listed. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:50, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Which consensus? Where?? Did you put source from LEN? Yes, u r! So, but correct information from LEN! U didn't put any note, and i give you, again, official source table and you can ignore again. https://wp2020budapest.com/european-water-polo-championships/

If you wanna to keep separete country's put note that all medals belong to Serbia or Russian, but there are separeted in this table. BudvaMontenegro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.228.69.16 (talk) 15:36, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

2026 FIFA World Cup

Is it possible to lock this page to Wiki users only? I don't want to start an edit war and there is someone (almost certainly this user who didn't log in) who keeps vandalizing the page.--Hmdwgf (talk) 01:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

There is. I have put in a request here Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:42, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

[2] Those accounts I mentioned there are yet more sockpuppets of Georgie 20. This guy seriously needs help. --Hmdwgf (talk) 01:57, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

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This season of Survivor won't have a season reunion due to the COVID-19 pandemic, as the finale will be a single episode in under three hours. ApprenticeFan ^work 03:59, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hey, please don't make an entry at Deaths in 2020 without including a source for the death claim. The entry is more likely than not to be removed as unsourced. However, your edit for Svein Arne Hansen has been saved as I've added one on this occasion. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 16:49, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

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Marina Koltsova

I saw you added the BLP tag to this article. I only don’t understand why, because every sentence is referenced(?). So I removed the tag. Let my know what info is not referenced. SportsOlympic (talk) 16:32, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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Prince Dahal

Hello, I've a request for you. Please see this article. This is surely the case of WP:TOOSOON and clearly fails WP:NBAD. Zoglophie (talk) 10:48, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

The article passes WP:NBAD. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:40, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

• Ok, thanks. Zoglophie (talk) 14:04, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Draft:Devaagyh Dixit

Hi, hope you're doing well. Any specific reason for draftifyning Devaagyh Dixit? Thanks TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 13:19, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Article was originally put into draft earlier this year and none of the concerns were addressed. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:29, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, the only concern of the article was lot of things without reference. Other than that everything was fine, so I removed everything except the Guinness World Record. I think I kid with holding 7 world record is worth being on wikipedia. I have also given the reference as a proof so its not just theoretical but a live and authentic reference. As he is just a kid, he will not have a long article for himself (I wrote it but as advised by some wiki admins, i have remove all without reference). So I request you to please put it back. Thanks Poojasharma20 (talk) 09:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Sportsfan 1234 Please reply — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poojasharma20 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

A question about an athlete

Can you help me to publish an article is about one famous table tennis player but I can’t publish it because im not an editor please Ill be thankful https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Kristina_Vramencalieva# Djdjdjdj12345 (talk) 11:56, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

September 2020

Hello! You have reverted my edits on Big Brother 22 (American season) for being disruptive but I don't see it that way. I was trying to provide a way to show the have not selection in an easy manner. I have been a main editor for the page and feel as though you have not. I was not vandalizing the page or being disruptive in any way. Maybe instead of reverting right away you could of came to me and we could have figured out a better way to help the overall page. Thank you for understanding and reading. Bsems (talk) 04:58, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Hey Sportsfan 1234 I saw the edit you made that was reverted by Bsems. I removed the colors that were in violation of MOS:ACCESS again but this time reformatted the table to include the information that was conveyed by the colors. Hopefully this change addresses any MOS:ACCESS concerns. Thank you! Alucard 16_{❯❯❯ chat?} 02:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Amazing Race Will

Why remove a source that said that former America's Next Top Model season 21 contestant Will is one of the racers this season of The Amazing Race? If you look at his photos from his time on ANTM and the promotional images from this season's TAR you know it's him. Why only focus on the athletes?--Keith Okamoto (talk) 21:03, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Appearing on another reality show does not indicate notability. There is no article for the subject and therefore he should not be included in the section. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:14, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

The Bachelor 24 part two finale

Hello! As I was unexpected on you reverted my edits for the part two of finale episode of The Bachelor (American season 24) for being disruptive that I don't see in my way. I was watching that finale less than 24 hours before the season premiere of The Bachelorette (season 16) as I am planned not to watch the latter season. Where I don't give a simple manner I edited the episode summary.

If you wish to clarify and copyedit the summary below to that article:

The Bachelor (American season 24) finale, aired March 10, 2020

The episode concluded when Madison had already departing Australia and left Peter's heart, Peter got nervous on what he is doing next and thinking that Hannah Ann is the one planning to get engaged to her. Chris Harrison came to Peter's place knowing Peter became frustrated and totally shocked, then Peter had his opinion to propose Hannah Ann. When Hannah Ann arrives at the final rose ceremony, Peter proposes to her and giving the final impression rose. A couple of months later, Peter meets with his family in Los Angeles and telling the news of his engagement with Hannah Ann, then Peter calls Hannah Ann to his family on this exciting moment. Several weeks later, Peter arrived at the safe house and has to talk to Hannah Ann, as Hannah Ann felt sobbed, depressed and lost her emotion, Peter follows her and declared the engagement is about to end. Then, Peter and Hannah Ann are seen for the first time since the breakup and Hannah Ann gives Peter an apology to accept the plea. Chris comes to Auburn, Alabama to see Madison and he asked the news on Peter's breakup with Hannah Ann and he tells Madison that she is barely in love with Peter, and Madison prepares to travel to Los Angeles. Peter and Madison are seen for the first time since Madison's sudden elimination back in Australia and they have asked a second chance to pursue a relationship. Peter's mother Barbara is on stage and telling the facts over Madison's feelings when Peter's family first met her during the first date. Knowing that Barbara has really done nothing in common with Madison that specifically letting Peter on his relationship with Madison would become better.

Sources needed: Deadline Hollywood, USA Today, Entertainment Weekly, E!

Hope that you have to understand in the summary of The Bachelor 24 part 2 finale. ApprenticeFan ^work 01:26, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

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TAR32 Paraguay Unaired Route Info

I don't know how to add references but there was an unaired Route Info at the start of the Paraguay leg at the Asunción Sign. This person worked on the show and confirmed this and posted multiple pictures of the cluebox at the sign. https://www.instagram.com/p/CHMHY56pWMg/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by OMGitsGARRET (talk • contribs) 02:13, 3 December 2020 (UTC) @OMGitsGARRET Thank you for providing this. I will add it to the article. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:31, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Rowing reversions

Hello, are you sure about using flagIOCmedalist instead of flagIOCathlete? Visually flagIOCathlete is better. Nyoman Juniarta (talk) 23:11, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Why did you remove all the edits to the commonwealth youth games pages made yesterday?

No information was removed, the pages we're organised, everything was organised. There was no point reverting everything and I suggest that you don't do it again. Keitan Hargreaves (talk) 14:28, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

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Why reverting 2020–21 Biathlon World Cup – Stage 1 Achievements section?

You reverted my edition the 2020–21 Biathlon World Cup – Stage 1 article on Achievements section two times. Why?! Sczipo (talk) 10:54, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I've added and fixed edits on the 2015 commonwealth youth games Wikipedia page, please leave them alone

I've added information using the official CGF website as my source (I don't know how to add citations yet) like the number of events and nations. I've removed the list of sports from the main chart as there already somewhere else in the article. Please leave them alone because as I've said, some new info have been added and corrected. I'm getting very irritated that you keep doing this and just leave it alone. Keitan Hargreaves (talk) 16:21, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Re: December 2020

I check one by one after the races on the competitors site of the IBU Database. Thx, the ruined that. I left WikiProject Biathlon, you can be happy now. 07:36, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Question

Hi, what's this about? What's "wpacess" and what is the problem? --Sb008 (talk) 13:30, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

WP:ACCESS states " Especially, do not use colored text or background unless its status is also indicated using another method, such as an accessible symbol matched to a legend, or footnote labels. Otherwise, blind users or readers accessing Wikipedia through a printout or device without a color screen will not receive that information." Sportsfan 1234 (talk) The bg is also unnecessary for articles like this. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:16, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

If you consider it unnessary you should propose the "bg" parameter to be removed from the template. As long as the parameter is part of the consensus template, it's valid to use it. --Sb008 (talk) 10:04, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

And while you at it, do the same for the bg colors in all the "sports XXX" modules. --Sb008 (talk) 10:15, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

WPACCESS: "Colors are most commonly found in Wikipedia articles within templates and tables." --Sb008 (talk) 10:23, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

You are ignoring what I listed. Please address that. Also the parameter is not a part of the documentation [3] which indicates its not to be used. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:46, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

I did adress what you listed. You consider it unnessay, I do. But what you and I think is irrelevant. The consensus is that the colors are used. Plenty of tournamenst which prove so. If you want to change the consensus you probably also know the procedure to do so. And the parameter not being documented doesn't indicate it's not to be used. If it's supposed not to be used, it would have been removed from the template. -- --Sb008 (talk) 18:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

To add, "Especially, do not use colored text or background unless its status is also indicated using another method, ...". It's also indicated in another way, the header of the section is quite clear. --Sb008 (talk) 18:53, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Why is it necessary? This has been discussed elsewhere on Wikipedia fyi [4]. A lot of tournaments do not use colour. For ex. [5]. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:14, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

If there is no agreement, we can take it to WP:RFC. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:21, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

FWIW, using templates such as beside the winner and etc. would work much better. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:24, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

You can take it to WP:RFC. You want to change what's the consensus for several years already. --Sb008 (talk) 19:29, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Can you please point me to where this consensus was determined? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:04, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@User:Primefac what do you think? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:04, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

I just took a look at the edit myself and I'm not sure I understand the problem. You cannot simply use color as the only means of conveying info. But it looks like these were under separate headings. Third place, bronze color, final gold color. If the semifinals were in blue I don't see a problem with that either. problems with color arise when you have a list of players where the red colored players were injured. Then, even if you have a key that says red colored players are injured players, some people cannot see it. I don't see that here. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:20, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Sportsfan 1234: Consensus through editing; if something is common practise on international handball tournaments pages for at least 2 years, it can be considered as a consensus.

@Fyunck(click): Your analysis is correct. The bronze medal game and the final are under seperate headers. A bronze background is used for the bronze medal game and the gold background for the final. So there are two means of conveying info. Besides possible red links there will be no red colored players. The only players listed are the topscorers in the match for each team. However, for the international topteams (not to mention semi-finalists) the chance of a red link appearing for the frequently scoring players is as good as zero. As one can see, for all teams who made it to the quarterfinals, you can't find a red link for a player. And if it ever would happen, the red links would turn into blue links in no time. The way I see it, the problem only exists in the mind of Sportsfan 1234. Something similar we see on the page 2001 FIFA Club World Championship, where Sportsfan 1234 keeps deleting cancelled matches using as argument that the matches were never played. If that would be a valid argument, the whole page should be deleted. None of the matches ever took place and therefore the tournament never took place. And what didn't take place, should according Sportsfan 1234, be deleted. Ergo, the page should be deleted/removed.

Sb008 (talk) 09:08, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Your argument for deleting the page is nonsense; the page itself contains useful information about the cancelled tournament. However, sections like the Knockout stages, which I just trimmed, did not. I would argue the individual matches hold some measure of encyclopedic interest and left those alone. Hyperbolic hand-waving isn't going to help anyone in this discussion. Primefac (talk) 14:28, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I find the coloured background quite jarring, but that's just my personal opinion; as far as ACCESS goes, I would agree that because each game is listed in its own clearly-marked heading, the colouration is a secondary method of displaying the information. That being said, there is clearly a dispute between whether these gamesshould be displayed this way, to which I would say that some form of discussion (either at the template, WT:SPORTS, or as an RFC) should probably occur (two users arguing over formatting isn't going to change things wide-scale). Primefac (talk) 14:28, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

@Primefac: It's not my opinion that the page (or any of the cancelled matches) should be deleted. I also don't agree with the trimming you did. The knockout matches hold factual information as well, i.e. what was planned (locations, dates and times). But the consequence of Sportsfan 1234 line of reasoning, matches which never took place have to be deleted, would mean deleting the whole tournament since the tournament didn't take place, ergo removing the page. A general discussion about collored backgrounds is fine with me. But it's a fact that coloring those matches is the concensus for at least the past two years. If Sportsfan 1234 thinks there're valid reasons for not doing so, the method to change it, isn't trying to impose his views by persisting in deleting the colors (or matches like on the FIFA CWC page). From the consensus page; If an edit is reverted and further edits seem likely to meet the same fate, create a new section on the associated talk page to discuss the issue. He can start a discussion and present his case to change the existing consensus. Keep in mind that this goes beyond this specific template. What about league tables like e.g. 2020–21 Premier League#League table and result tables like e.g. 2020–21 Premier League#Results and probably some more templates/modules. --Sb008 (talk) 17:31, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

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comment on Jr2006Venz (talk)

Hi, ok..ok. I'll just apologize for participating but the pages for the men's singles, women singles, men's doubles, women's doubles, and mixed doubles can still be put there and does not need to be redirected , it has nothing to do with bwf not confirming, if Olympics is cancelled then it can be removed or redirected but it's so far not so it can stay there. Please understand there's noting with confirmation from bwf, just remove the seeds then. Thanks Jr2006Venz (talk) 23:10, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok good thanks Jr2006Venz (talk) 23:24, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Pan American boxing qualification

Why did you remove this? It has confirmed the 2021 Pan American Boxing Olympic Qualification Tournament already cancelled in April due to a rapid spreading COVID-19 surge in Latin America in mid-March. The sources were here: The Americas Olympic qualification event has been cancelled Subject: Updated Tokyo 2020 Qualification System for Boxing, following cancelation of Americas qualifier. Those are totally true and not a joke.

Instead, rankings from BTF Americas were replaced in the remainder quota slots. ApprenticeWiki work 04:42, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Please don't spoil the editing 🙏, it's all in accordance with the qualifications and the BTF ranking for Pan American replaces the qualification and one remaining qualifying slot Jr Tahun (talk) 10:43, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Again and again I've told you many times don't spoil the edits, why don't you read the source available there, and the qualifications has been confirmed to BTF Ranking, read this news and understand https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/ the-americas-olympic-qualification-event-has-been-canceled / Jr Tahun (talk) 00:02, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

This is your research. None of the information is confirmed. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:15, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

You may be blocked because you always break the edits, I've told you how many times all the qualification results were correct and nothing was wrong and please read this https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1106734/boxing-tokyo-2020-olympics-covid-19 Jr Tahun (talk) 00:17, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

That does not confirm whom has qualified for the event. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:40, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Just tell me if you want to edit it, i know how come you are begging for edits😂 Jr Tahun (talk) 02:01, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Patrick Keane

Please stop move warring, open a move request. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 23:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Pending changes review on 2020 Summer Olymlics

Hi @Sportsfan 1234:, Can you tell me the reason behind the reverting that last pending changes review to this.(Fade258 (talk) 03:39, 30 May 2021 (UTC))

Badminton qualification

Hi Sportsfan 1234, i revise the badminton qualification list cite per BWF released lists on 18 May 2021. In that article, explained about order of allocations, who qualified as Continental places, relocation place, and tripartite invitation, and i added that information based on references. For now, i will use that reference, until the new lists released. Stvbastian (talk) 21:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Talk page

Thank you for your note on my talk page. I would ask you to be patient and kind to an old man and explain to me what you meant. I was using the template of information provided on other pages -ie Brian Malfesi, and it was accurately sourced. The pages you appear to have sandboxed just need someone to provide an info box and cite the references. I am afraid I’m too old and my eyes aren’t quite good enough any more to always do those bits as they are too fiddly for me. But I enjoy doing the research when the time allows. If there’s anything else I can do to avoid your ire whilst indulging the mild hobby of collating information on the internet for other people, please let me know. I am trying to help or hinder. Hildreth gazzard (talk) 17:20, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your latest message. Please acknowledge as I stated above unfortunately my eyes really struggle with the more implicated citation format and I am unable to do it, and believe you me it is far more frustrating for me than it is for you, no matter how frustrated you think you are. I do however leave the link rot notice to alert the people such as your good selfs who are able to undertake such a task. May I also point out that far from competing with anyone else “to create the most pages” as you projected, the only race I’m involved in is the start of the actual Olympics and trying to fairly represent all these fabulous athletes and their stories in good time to give them the due recognition and representation they deserve. Have a lovely day. 3 weeks to go! Hildreth gazzard (talk) 06:39, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Unwarranted unilateral removals

Hi, please can you provide an explanation as to why you have unilaterally removed the pages for Madeleine Kelly and Julie-Anne Staehli? They both fulfill WGN:TRACK as national champions who have finished in the top 60 world wide in a specific year. I would kindly ask you to rectify your error, although it will be no trouble for me to replace them myself. Thanks. Have a nice day now. Hildreth gazzard (talk) 15:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

They have not been removed. They have been moved to draftspace, so issues can be fixed before it being returned to the main article space. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:28, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok thanks for explaining, don’t take too long. Butterworth ran the 2017 World Championships in Athletics so fulfilled notability then. You’ve had 4 years to do one. Hildreth gazzard (talk) 15:32, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

winter olympics

It seems pretty clear that the 'unexplained removal of content' was a user, who does not know the subject matter, removing their own work. It also appears that they are using two accounts.18abruce (talk) 15:24, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

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Redlinks

Hey, those links you removed from coaches who are about to coach at the Olympics. They will be notable in 2 weeks (and maybe are already) and will be created, so no need to remove them in my view. Same for the flag at the squads article, when the coach is from another country that the team he/she coaches. That's been done on a lot of squads articles over the years. Kante4 (talk) 07:50, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I noticed that also, red links are useful, they show that people that the subject can be notable giving editors a chance to create an article. Govvy (talk) 07:59, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I am indifferent about the red links, wasn't aware they are considered notable if coaching at the Olympics. Also per WP:FLAG flags are not be included if they are not representing that particular country. Off course those representing their country of birth do not get a flag either, which means there should be no flags beside the coach names. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 17:29, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Then this should be raised because if you check several WC and continental championships, it is handled different. Kante4 (talk) 18:11, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

WP;FLAG should be consulted. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:27, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Query

Hello, Sportsfan 1234,

Why did you move Joanna Brown to Draft:Joanna Brown, tagged the redirect for deletion and then recreated the article in main space? If you want to improve this article, you should work on the existing draft. Otherwise, it looks like, for some reason, you want to get credit for creating this article when you moved the existing article off into draft space where it will just be eventually deleted. I don't get it and I hope you don't make a habit of doing this. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:44, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

From my first consult there appeared to be BLP issues associated with the article. I thought I wasn't going to get a chance to edit it till much later, so moved it to draft. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:46, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Reserves do not count

dear Sportsfan 1234 I do appreciate your contributions, since a while, but you cannot REVERT on the simple basis that "reserves do not count": in many sports, reserves count until the event is done. For example, in track and field relays, 5 members of the team train until the race and only a few minutes before the race, changes can be done. finally of course only 4 will run (in the heats), but very often, they ard changes in the final. You may be confused with "P alternates" that are not part of the team of 5 (replacing athletes for previous injuries). I do not agree with your changes and revert, without any source, according your bias.--Arorae (talk) 19:33, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

In artistic swimming the max athletes is 8, there is 9 listed for Italy, in Fencing there is a max 18, there is 24 listed and so forth. Please consult the qualification documents before reverting. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:36, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

too easy to reply (badly) like that. Consider the fact that I have read the official documents, especially on fencing and there are team of 4: restricted to 3 in competition (but can replace his teammates until the final event) and Italy qualified all the 6 teams. You will never receive anymore thank or ask from my side, sorry.--Arorae (talk) 22:15, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Now ask me if I care? You said you read the document but you failed to read the maximum team size is 18 as per page 1 [6]. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:49, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

"Nothing to do with the Olympics"

Cultural events part of the Olympic programme and marketing, and co-organized by the TOC, have "nothing to do with the Olympics"? I dispute that. ViperSnake151  Talk  14:57, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

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Olympics

Is it necessary to add a reference column to the side of the results table??? My edit is in Indonesia at the 2020 Summer Olympics because I removed the reference column and moved it to the description section Weightlifting. Jr Tahun (talk) 03:46, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

You are right, reference column is not needed. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:50, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Podium sweeps

Hi Sportsfan, I hope you are enjoying the Olympics! I'm sorry I undid your edit. I'm not sure why you think podium sweeps are trivia. They are included in all other olympics articles and I thought they were fairly standard content, certainly not trivial. I'd be happy to discuss this if you want to, but I guess they would have to be removed from all the other articles too so it's probably a Project-wide topic rather than just Tokyo 2020.

On an unrelated issue... What ARE we to do about our friend Arorae? I notice that you put a 3RR warning on his/her Talk page yesterday which s/he immediately deleted. I then looked at his/her Talk page revisions and found that s/he has a history of just deleting posts that s/he doesn't want to deal with. Is that not a case for ANI? It is definitely against Wikipedia's policy of civility and cooperation (4th pillar). Rodney Baggins (talk) 12:00, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I think it is trivia for the main Olympic page, but perfectly fine on the medal table article. As for Arorae, I am not sure. Ill leave it up to you. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 12:40, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Crystal Ball

You are in violation of WP:CRYSTAL. Nothing has been expected, projected number doesn't means it is real. --Aleenf1 15:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

I am not in violation of anything, the information is sourced and a disclaimer saying "expected" is sufficient. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:47, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

What really expected? Is the qualifications of the events already set? And it is 206 nations will be participated 3 years later, a projected number is not acceptable. You know yourself. --Aleenf1 15:51, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Its not a projected number. 206 is the number of NOC's. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:52, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Is still a crystal ball number. You knows. --Aleenf1 16:07, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Canada at the Olympic Games

Please explain why you keep removing my edits posting results from events regarding Canada's bronze medal win in the C-2 women's 500? Chantella28 (talk) 02:52, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

My edit was not a test, thanks. I omitted a break line on the table and realized immediately. Tried to correct it but you had already undid the edit. I re-entered it correctly and you undid it again only to re-enter it yourself the same way? Chantella28 (talk) 02:58, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Okay now I'm getting frustrated with your reverts of my edits. This is now 3 times and the most recent one you entered a near identical edit to mine (yours has a typo by the way). Please explain why you are specifically undoing my edits to enter them yourself? I am updating hundreds of pages. If you just want the credit specifically for Canada let me know and I'll take this page off my list. Chantella28 (talk) 03:09, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

I think its an edit conflict (we are editing at the same time). Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:12, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Australia at the 2020 summer Paralympics

I notice that you have been doing a number of edits to this article. Among those, today you have deleted the names of team officials and have removed the names of the players in the goalball team. This article has been created as part of the Australian Paralympic Wikipedia history project. Through the project, more than 1,000 articles have been created and these articles are collectively viewed more than 120,000 times every month. During the Tokyo Games, we know from experience that the articles will be viewed more than 2 million times. The articles about Australia at each Games comprise an important historical record of Australia at the Paralympic Games and contain information that is difficult for the average viewer to find elsewhere. The article about the Australian team at the Tokyo Games follows an established format. Whether individuals named in the article are notable or not, their inclusion is part of the historical record of the Games and helps add value to the article. Similarly, the names of the athletes in the team sports are difficult to track down elsewhere. The article has been created by a person with extensive experience in this project since 2012 and most of the editing is being done by him and other people very familiar with the project and Wikipedia. Can I ask that you stop making changes to the article that actually reduce its value. Thank you. Tony.naarTony.naar (talk) 04:54, 22 August 2021 (UTC) You have deleted information that is factual and relevant to Australian team at the 2020 Summer Paralympics. This page has been edited in line with a project of Paralympics Australia and Wikimedia Australia. Full details can be found at -https://wikimedia.org.au/w/images/9/92/Wikimedia_Paralympic_history_project.pdf The information about officials is relevant - they are listed but only given an article if notable. Several coaches are notable as they were significant Paralympic athletes.Please refer to other pages ie Australia at the 2016 Summer Paralympics etc Please revert back changes. Thank you. User:Aussiesportlibrarian (talk) 16.00, 22 August 2021(UTC)

Team officials are not notable per the Wikiproject (WP:OLYMPICS and WP:MSE), only athletes are too be listed. The removal of the goalball team members is completely unintentional and should/will be restored back. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:11, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Justin Trudeau

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Goalball at the 2020 Summer Paralympics – Women's tournament

Hello, Please stop removing the templates from the page. There is currently a deletion discussion about it and the content dispute should be discussed there. Until there is a result to the deletion discussion, the page should remain with the templates as that is the stable version. Per WP:BRD, you were bold and substed the templates, then I reverted it back to the stable version, and it is now being discussed in the deletion discussion for the templates. Removing the templates also skews the deletion discussion, leading to false arguments such as "the templates are unused". --SuperJew (talk) 06:04, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Don't you think it's rich templating me with a 3RR warning, when you're the one who originally changed the page from it's stable version according to consensus with other sports in the tournament and with previous years tournaments, but when reverted you are not discussing and waiting for a decision before changing back to your preferred version? Per WP:BRD Making bold edits is encouraged, as it will result in either improving an article, or stimulating discussion. If your edit gets reverted, do not revert again. Instead, begin a discussion with the person who reverted your change. You made the bold edit, you were reverted, but you are not "not reverting again", but rather reverting again and using it to skew the deletion discussion. --SuperJew (talk) 17:32, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

2027 Pan American Games

Hello. You reverted my edit without giving a reason. Could you give a reason for this revert? Thanks. — Pbrks (talk) 14:44, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Premier League

WP:FLAGCRIT doesn't exist. Please stop making edits mentioning that "guideline". Clog Wolf _Howl 10:12, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@Clog Wolf: He might of meant MOS:FLAGICON. However, in sporting teams and sporting pages, it's an excepted use of the flag-icon before a name. This subject has been heavily discussed. Govvy (talk) 10:30, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I meant to write MOS:FLAGCRUFT sorry. In any case, these players/coaches are not representing their country while competing for their club and therefore it should be removed. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:12, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Well if you think that's the case then you should discuss this at WT:FOOTY. Clog Wolf _Howl 16:28, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

List of Olympic medalists in badminton

Hello, can you give a reason why you prefer flagIOCmedalist than flagIOCathlete for doubles events?

Nyoman Juniarta (talk) 08:35, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

In a table of medalists, the flagIOCmedalist should be used. Medalist=medalist template. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:27, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Could you help me find any Wikipedia guide or consensus saying that Template:FlagIOCmedalist is the only template permitted in any table of medalists?

I doubt that Template:FlagIOCathlete can not be used in such tables. I agree that Template:FlagIOCmedalist should be used for single medalists. But when a pair of athletes share a medal, and they are displayed in a two-line cell with the word "and", then Template:FlagIOCathlete should be used. In that case, the flag in the first line will align with the word "and" in the second line. The two athlete names will also be aligned. It's visually better.

Another option to display a pair of medalists is by using Template:FlagIOC. In that case, the country's flag & name are in the first line, followed by the two medalists each in its own line, without the word "and" in between. This is also the case for any medal won by a team of more than two athletes. Nyoman Juniarta (talk) 08:01, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

{I disagree, a medalist template exists to be used to indicate medalists, otherwise there is no point to the template. You can open a discussion on the template's talk page. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:09, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Other editors also agree medalists should be used [7]. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood. I am talking about a PAIR of medalists, not a single medalist. By PAIR, I mean a medal that is won by two athletes, like doubles events in badminton, double sculls in rowing, ice dance in figure skating, etc.

I said it before, I agree to use flagIOCmedalist for singles events. I asked why you prefer flagIOCmedalist for DOUBLES events in badminton.

The editor that you refer in [8] did NOT deal with a PAIR of medalist. Moreover, he/she did NOT change the flagIOCathlete in the table of medalists in Tandem event [9], which is PAIRS of medalists. So in a certain sense, he/she agrees to use flagIOCathlete for PAIRS of medalists. Nyoman Juniarta (talk) 07:11, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, do you have any other reason that validates your use flagIOCmedalist in doubles events? I repeat, I AGREE to use flagIOCmedalist for SINGLES events, but NOT for DOUBLES events. If not, I will revert your edit. Nyoman Juniarta (talk) 14:57, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Templates should be uniform across the table, and I still prefer medalist as it shows the country's name vs the code, which most people do not know. If you want it changed take it to the talk page as per WP:BRD. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:40, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

The table Rowing at the 2020 Summer Olympics#Men’s shows that two different templates (Template:FlagIOCmedalist and Template:FlagIOC) can be used together in one table (unless someone modified it later).

If you want a full country name, we can use Template:FlagIOC (as I already proposed earlier). Nyoman Juniarta (talk) 17:49, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Cosmetic edits

Hello, I'd like to advise you against performing cosmetic edits (those that do not change the contents of the page, but only the source code). These are generally viewed negatively. Additionally, the recent edits you made also changed category sorting by replacing sortkeys of " " with whatever the category name is. Please don't do this. Thank you! Elli (talk | contribs) 03:40, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

I noticed you've been re-implementing these edits, this time with the categories fixed. Unless there is actually benefit to them, please do not make them (and also, please note what the benefit is in the edit summary). Elli (talk | contribs) 03:52, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and replaced the errors in the sort keys, not sure how that happened. I didn't physically add the country's name into the empty space. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:03, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Unconstructive Edit Question?

Hello! I added that Leeuwarden as the host of the Olympic Qualification Event. I also included a source: https://worldcurling.org/2021/09/oqe2021-host/ Why was my edit reverted? And why did I get a notification: "Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Curling at the 2022 Winter Olympics – Qualification. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted." I feel very hurt by this, when I was genuinely trying my best to keep the page up to date with new information. Edwyth (talk) 04:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Your editing tests on the page are disruptive. Please review how to cite properly before adding in references. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Reversion of edits in 2021 AIMAG

Hello, this is in conjunction of your reversion of my edits to the number of delegates of the Philippine to the 2021 Asian Indoor and Martial Arts Games. It is clearly stated in the referenced article that the size is for the Games set NEXT YEAR. Aeron Valderrama (talk) 03:18, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Per WP:CRYSTALBALL we cannot add team sizes until much closer to the games. We don't even know if the games will go ahead at this point. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:23, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Edits broke tables

This edit broke at least three tables. Do a find on the page for ccffcc to see what I mean; the table cell had been displaying a color, and after your edit, formatting code was displayed instead. Please fix all instances of this erroneous edit. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:39, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

I only saw one instance of the issue, and have fixed it. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:00, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Reverted Template:Curling at the 2022 Winter Olympics

Why did you revert the edits made to Template:Curling at the 2022 Winter Olympics? And why didn't you provide a rationale when reverting the edits to communicate to your fellow editors? It seems perfectly reasonable to me to have links to the articles about qualification tournaments in that template since there's already a link to the general qualification article. A202985 (talk) 15:03, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Its pretty self explanatory. Qualification tournaments are not linked in these templates, see virtually all other sports. The tounament is also coveed under qualification, which is already linked on this template. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:33, 8 October 2021 (UTC)