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Wladyslaw IV. Wasa

Hello Piotrus,

I spent my morning, an hour of which I usually spend on browsing through the Wiki main pages of "my" languages, dabbling in editing the W article of which I found pooping you to be the main contributor (through its history, though I failed to find it in your publications listings - which is not a criticism of your listings, but rather evidence of the tomatoes sometimes accumulating on my eyes).

On the article talk page, I left some comments, which for your convenience I also transferred here:

Contentiously vs contentedly

Though in the next paragraph we learn that the guy had a short temper, I somehow think that the author was trying here to convey that W died contentedly rather than contentiously, seeing that he had time to make his last will and receive sacraments... Anybody out there who could and would care to contribute the historical facts?

Meanwhile my apologies to the authors and the public for any deteriorations I might have made in my inept efforts at improvement dabbling in a foreign language. I hope that soon a competent native speaker will come out to give this really good article the last linguistic polish... Terminally uncool (talk) 10:19, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Meanwhile my respects. It is a pleasure and honour to meet you. Browsing through your user pages both thrilled and terrified me... --Terminally uncool (talk) 13:32, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Your solution/clarification seems fine to me! --Terminally uncool (talk) 10:50, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

thanks for reviewing our AfC research for the Signpost!

Hey Pitor,

Thanks for the thoughtful review!

Since you asked... (and here in public for transparency b/c I'm one of the authors of this paper), a few thoughts/comments:

• The G13 backlog happened because G13 is new. The best person to ask about that is probably User:Anne_Delong. (AfC backlog is a different thing.)
• "[despite clearly being notable] an article about an Emmy-award winning TV show from the 1980's was twice declined at AfC, before finally being published 15 months after the draft was started". At the time it was first submitted this didn't say it won the Emmy. The show is this one: Free_to_Be..._A_Family. There are some slides on that at pages 111-115 of our OpenSym slides. We didn't state that this was "clearly notable": my view is rather that its notability *becomes* clear once you know enough about it. It was a research project to find this info since this was pre-Web; if that had been asserted, it would have passed AfC!
• Newbies do complain about rejections, too.
• Newcomers sometimes do "drive by contribution"; they don't always come back.

Hope that helps, and feel free to ignore my kibbitzing Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 13:53, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

RfA...

I've noticed your contributions across the project and specifically at AfD; and was wondering whether you'd wish to apply for an RfA. I'd be more than pleased to nominate you, in case you do consider it. Best regards. Wifione ^Message 16:52, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Global Citizenship Education

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DYK nomination of Political Parties (book)

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WikiCup 2014 August newsletter

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DYK for Lem (satellite)

Witaj, napiszę po polsku, choć jeśli to niezbędne, oczywiście mogę też po angielsku. Zrozumiałem, że uznałeś mój art. Lem (satellite): za interesujący i warty nominowania do rubryki DYK. To niezmiernie motywujące. Proszę Cię o dalsze wskazówki dotyczące umieszczenia hasła w rubryce DYK. Z pozdrowieniami, LukaszKatlewa (talk) 08:49, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Dzięki za zachętę i pomoc. Może jednak nie będzie to dobrze, jeśli to ja zgłoszę, może lepiej by zgłosił to ktoś inny (Ty?). Mogę podrzucić propozycje pytań:

hook = … that ’’’Lem’’’ started his stellar observations before ’’’Heweliusz’’’ ‘’(pictured)’’?

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… that ’’’Lem’’’ was launched before ’’’Heweliusz’’’ ‘’(pictured)’’?

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… what is the difference between ’’’Lem’’’ and ’’’Heweliusz’’’ ‘’(pictured)’’?

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… what was the name of the ’’’first Polish scientific satellite’’’ ‘’(pictured)’’?

ALT4 = ... what/why ’’’Lem’’’ can see in blue and ’’’Heweliusz’’’ can see in red ‘’(pictured)’’?

LukaszKatlewa (talk) 13:12, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:School and university projects/User:Piotrus/Fall 2014 glob

Maybe you should fix categories on that page? — Revi_complaint? 07:52, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Dealing with reverts

Thank you for the suggestion you gave on my Talk Page. The problem isn't just about reverts and / or coming to some kind of understanding between editors. The basic flaw with Wikipedia - IMHO - is that there's discrepancy or system in place to weigh edits, i.e. that edits from specialists are now equally valued as those from newcomers. I've been monitoring my watch list on a daily basis and some people just continue making a mess of certain lemma that have cost many hours to bring to a certain level of quality. It's a hopeless case that seriously needs to be addressed or else I see a bleak future ahead for this project. Regardless of my personal opinion, thank you for chiming in. Qwrk (talk) 07:27, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

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John Cowper Powys Assessment

Many thanks for taking the time to assess this article and for your helpful comments. Rwood128 (talk) 11:18, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Simon Mol

You still topic banned from EE pages? You've been mentioned at Talk:Simon Mol although not by name. Dougweller (talk) 15:51, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

@Dougweller: That idiocy has not been in force for 3+ years, so I can safely stop by and see if I can help. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Didn't think it still did but didn't realise it was that long ago. How time flies. TE doesn't begin to describe this guy. Dougweller (talk) 05:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

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Cześć. Czy mógłbym Cię jako doświadczonego tutaj wikipedystę zapytać czy stworzone przez mnie hasła Mikuszowice i Komorowice, Bielsko-Biała nadawały by się na DYK? Jeszcze na en-wiki nie nominowałem i chciałem się zapytać czy te hasła nadają, myślałem że ciekawe, bo były przez kilkaset lat przedzielone granicą państwową. D_T_G (PL) 19:11, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Dzięki za uwagi, pododawałem trochę źródeł. W haśle Mikuszowice szablon Cite Polish law nie generuje mi prawidłowo linka do http://isap.sejm.gov.pl/DetailsServlet?id=WDU19540430191 {{Cite Polish law | title = Rozporządzenie Rady Ministrów z dnia 29 listopada 1957 r. w sprawie utworzenia niektórych osiedli w województwach: katowickim, kieleckim, krakowskim, lubelskim, poznańskim i wrocławskim. | trans_title = | gazette = | year = 1954 | volume = 59 | number = 317 | date = }}. Wiesz co by tu mogło być nie tak? D_T_G (PL) 08:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Jan Matejko

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Henry Standing Bear

Dear Piotrus, thank you for reviewing Henry Standing Bear and your suggestions. I noticed that you are a sociologist. I just completed an article on American sociologist Fayette Avery McKenzie. I hope that you might find time to review the article. Regards from Pittsburgh. Richlevine00 (talk) 16:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia: Training/For students

Hi, professor. I'm Park JiHyun. I completed Wikipedia Training. But It was difficult to me a little. I need to study more. Well, I'll see you on Monday. --Jihyun2p (talk) 05:39, 13 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jihyun2p (talk • contribs) 05:35, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Articles

Dear Piotrus, thank you for your kind offer to review my articles. Here is a list of the articles I created or wrote. Major Israel McCreight, Flying Hawk, Felix Flying Hawk, Iron Tail, Chief Blue Horse, Red Shirt (Oglala), Wild Westing, Chauncey Yellow Robe, Rosebud Yellow Robe, Dennison Wheelock, Carlisle Indian Industrial School, Philip B. Gordon, Sherman Coolidge, Luther Standing Bear, Robert Edmund Strahorn, John Wallace Crawford, American Horse, American Horse (elder), Battle of Slim Buttes, Wagluhe, and Johnny J. Jones. Your interest and guidance is most appreciated. Richlevine00 (talk) 14:58, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia: Training/For students

Professor. I'm jihyun kim. I've done with Wikipedia Training. Even after this I feel confuse, I think should more practice. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucyinthesky123 (talk • contribs) 04:18, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

VE

I wouldn't suggest using it since VE has a critical bug for Korean: bugzilla:50631. — revi^{^} 10:22, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

I conducted a test on User:Hym411/VETest: 1) backspace does not work, and 2) When consonant after the vowel is empty, next typing word's consonant (before the vowel) is put to the place where it (consonant after the vowel) is supposed to be empty. So, as long as students are expected to use some Koreans, I think it's best not to tell them to use VE for now. — revi^{^} 13:29, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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Ludwik Ehrlich

Your prod was meritless; the article was already referenced. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:58, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Those references must have been 'invisible' as I looked again and did not see any references at the time of PROD'ing. Can you show me how it was referenced? Or is this a joke? Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 08:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

You are meant to actually look for references before proposing an article should deleted due to lack of references. If you don't find any, only then is it legitimate to propose its deletion. And if you do find references, you should add them into the article to improve it. Piotrus said that a "simple google search shows numerous other refs" - this suggests you did not bother searching for refs before prodding the article. That is why the prod was meritless (and the note telling you of its meritlessness was not "nonsense" [1]) Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 14:01, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

So other than being a harasser you cannot understand what 'the article was already referenced' means? Or possibly you are adding unnecessary talk so that people will get confused and not understand what I rightly mean... --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 14:44, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

@Why should I have a User Name?: My partial apologies. You are right that the article, when you prodded it, looked like a substub. That said, User:Tiptoethrutheminefield is right that one should do at least a cursory google search. I've prodded and AfD hundreds of articles, so I know it can get tedious, but a few seconds - about as much as the creator of this article spent in the first place - are deserved, and in this case a few seconds shows existence of RS and confirms notability of the subject (YIVO Encyclopedia entry...). So in the future, can you please try to do a bit more checking before prodding articles? I am not asking you to do anything more than I do :> Cheers, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:50, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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Battle of Warsaw (1831)

A year has passed and I decided to nominate the article to FA. I wonder what do others think of it :) //Halibutt 11:04, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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Ja tam jestem średnio zadowolony z tego hasła więc nie dam go na DYK. Przy tłumaczeniu z pl-wiki wyciąłem też, moim zdaniem, wielką bzdurę o zasiedleniu Pogórza przez górali. D_T_G (PL) 10:31, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hello, I did what I can to the article, I'm not too familiar with Poland's auto industry. Seqqis (talk) 00:30, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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Finish the tutorial

Hi. I'm, Son Ji-wan from your globalization class. I've finished and learnd the wiki student tutorial. Thank you.← — Preceding unsigned comment added by 손지완 (talk • contribs) 02:35, 29 September 2014 (UTC) Gardeney (talk) 15:58, 29 September 2014 (UTC) Hi Professor! I'm Kim Jeong-won in Sociology of Globalization class. I've read tutorial and learned Wikipedia, but I have still question about Wikipedia tutorial. Next class I have to ask this question and I think I should try to write article myself. Professor, can I change an article to another? I want to research another article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gardeney (talk • contribs) 15:55, 29 September 2014 (UTC) Seoung13 (talk) 00:52, 30 September 2014 (UTC) Professor I'm seoung-a go. I read the tutorial. Wikipedia is not accustomed to me, but I'll try to using wikipedia well. Thank you!

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Hello

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We are a group of Cornell students editing the page for our class assignment. We chose 'Economy of Asia' because many information are out of date and we would love to update the page adding more recent changes in regional policy. We would love to hear some feedbacks from you :)Yz567 (talk) 01:46, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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Cześć! The English Henryk Zieliński page has come under some scrutiny for not having enough citations. He has been cited as a source regarding the communist usage of the term Ruthenian in a matter now under discussion on the OR noticeboard. I noticed that you had added a map based on his book. Perhaps you can give further citations, and commentary on his scholarship? He appears not to have been well known outside of Poland.Carpo- Rusyn (talk) 03:09, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nom'

Aye Piotrus, long time no hear from. I nominated an article for DYK (Stephen Simpson (writer)) more than three weeks ago but no one has reviewed it yet. I was hoping that if you have the time could you check it out? Template:Did you know nominations/Stephen Simpson (writer) The hook statement is in the Military service section. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:34, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

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Response to "Proposed deletion of Pranasys"

Hi,

I am just trying to help and contribute.

The article can be improved, I agree with that, but I don't really see main differences between this article and other articles about Uruguayan software companies (or from other countries).

If you consider that this effort is not worth it, go ahead, delete the page.

Regards.

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Don't know how to "ping"; removed article from deletion

I don't know how to "ping you back", sorry. Thanks for the consideration, the article does need to be improved, which I will do in the coming days. See following links: [3][4]

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Helga DYK

I just did my QpQ. If you feel so inclined you can add the final GTG. Thank you very much. Take care. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 19:47, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

TranfserGo

Hello,

I am wirting regarding wikipedia page of TranfserGo.

I believe that this article meets notability guidlines as it has significant amount of references which are all different and reliable. In addition it is a competitive firm in the market and TransferGo is already competing with such companies as Dwolla, TransferWise, MoneyGram, WesternUnion, therefore it would not be fare to remove it from the list. Also, this company has already acquired links from other Wikipedia pages Wire transfer as well as Remittance which proves that the article is already useful for Wikipedia community and is being used as a reference.

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Notability of "Life Feels Good"

Hi! Regarding this edit, WP:NF lists as a criterion "[t]he film has received a major award for excellence in some aspect of filmmaking". I was under the impression that this meant that all films in the {{Grand Prix des Amériques}} template should have an article. I'll try to flesh out the article some more regardless, of course. Gabbe (talk) 08:16, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Responded to your proposal to delete article: Payza

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Payza&oldid=629415983 has been responded to in Talk section of that article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Payza (Contested Deletion 10/14/2014). I'd appreciate it if you removed the proposal for deletion or improved the article as you see fit. Payzaofficial (talk) 18:40, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

FYI, I blocked that user's name. Bearian (talk) 21:27, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Note: I responded at Talk:Payza.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:14, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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Economy of Asia

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Did you know nominations/Our Brand Is Crisis (2016 film)

Hello Piotrus! Would you please finalize the Template:Did you know nominations/Our Brand Is Crisis (2016 film)? It's good to go now, I think. --Captain Assassin! ^{«T ♦ C ♦ G»} 10:59, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Response to proposed deletion: Multisafepay

A very good day Piotrus,

Per your proposed deletion of MultiSafepay because of notability, I wanted to let you know I've added third-party coverage that might help substantiate. Per your request to ping you back, hereby.

GameLegend (talk) 13:52, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK hook

I've a question. Does the hook is necessary to be mentioned in the lead of the article? --Captain Assassin! ^{«T ♦ C ♦ G»} 15:15, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) No. Hooks need to be mentioned somewhere in the article, and the hook facts must all be inline source cited by the end of the sentence they appear in, but they certainly don't have to be in the lede. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:58, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for the various financial proposed deletions. Have done a fair few of them this evening, but just letting you know per your request in the PROD messages:

• Revolution MoneyExchange was a valid PROD but contained a number of references that might be useful if anyone ever wanted to expand the article on parent company Revolution Money. To preserve these in an accessible form I've redirected the article to the company page, and merged the text.
• Popmoney fails GNG in its current form, but makes the sourced claim that it is/was a challenger to Paypal. The claim is not entirely credible, but I've sent it to AfD to get wider input.

Happy to discuss if required. -- Euryalus (talk) 13:14, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of Paymenex

The article you deleted has been peer reviewed by other Administrators like you over the years and approved as having met the standard, if you go through the history you will see that idea, aim to improve article son Wikipedia, The project is a graduate research project that has been academically reviewed and passed, I think is meets all criteria to be on Wikipedia and it does not, to allow the writer to correct it, thats how to build Wikipedia Fulginic (talk) 16:35, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

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Just letting you know I declined the proposed deletion of Egoboo (computer game) because it has been nominated before under a slightly different title - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Egoboo (computer game). As the previous discussion was six years ago and the nomination was withdrawn, I've returned it to AfD to see what people think this time around. Happy to discuss if required. -- Euryalus (talk) 11:59, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

MultiSafepay article

We have sort of followed this discussion and found some additional sources that also wrote about MultiSafepay: [5], [6], [7], [8], [9]. I hope this helps to paint a clearer picture of MultiSafepay. 176.74.248.173 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 07:34, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

I am afraid those sources don't look very reliable to me, but you are welcome to explain why they are high quality at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MultiSafepay. At this point, it is not me you have to convince, but other volunteers who will review the discussion there.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:08, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Tomasz Witkowski

Hi there! Would be great if you had a look on the article which I just created and saw if it needs any corrections in terms of language or technicalities. Best regards. Maksymilian Sielicki (talk) 15:55, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at the article. A lot of text has been introduced by Witkowski himself after I left a message at your user talk page, so it wasn't actually me who added a Polish Wikipedia article as a source. Not sure about what he meant in the last sentence of the campaign subsection, about publishing Rorschach inkblots. The article is no longer an orphan, I linked Witkowski`s name in the Neuro-linguistic programming article. Still needs language cleanup though. Would be cool if the article was suitable for DYK... Maksymilian Sielicki (talk) 21:39, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Cool! I'll sumbit the nomination within next few days. Thanks! Maksymilian Sielicki (talk) 10:45, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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Small questions

1. Is Socialogy of Globalization ongoing? I see no recent edits from the special page...
2. Do you think a dedicated page for Treasures of South Korea is notable? (Well, not sure ;p) — revi_msg 14:52, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Re: m:Mix'n'match

Hello, I'm glad someone sees this page. ;-) No, Magnus created and maintains the tool. New lists are added regularly, you can just email a CSV/TSV to Magnus. User:Piotrus/List of Poles says wikified wiki lists, so it may take some conversion effort on your time, but it's better to send Magnus a well-made CSV because he's so fast at adding new ones and fixing them after the fact is harder. ;-) Ensure there is some unique ID for each person (even if you make it up), a "display name", some URL if possible (even Google search if nothing else); and that the CSV is well formatted, escaped, quoted and whatnot. --Nemo 08:23, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

@Nemo bis: Thanks, I'll reply here to keep the discussion centralized. I've reached out to MJMinakowski (User:Minak) to see if he has newer version of the PSB files, and to User:ChrisRuvolo and User:Magnus Manske. Hopefully we can get this rolling! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:41, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

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This article now has reliable sources such as...

Sources for the Michal Lauer page have now been added. The reason for the sources not being previously added is that much of the information comes from Polish books, which wouldn't serve well on a English page. Furthermore some information came from family documents, so sources cannot be cited.

A second editor endorsed the proposal for the deletion of the page commenting on the fact that Michal Lauer was awarded the Silver Cross Virtuti Militari (which is the lowest grade). However the fact still stands that Michal Lauer was awarded the Virtuti Miliari, the highest Polish military honour. The "tens of thousands" may have been awarded that same medal does not lessen it's value in Polish military history. If the page was for a winner of the Blue Peter badge, the editor would have a point.

The cause for the proposal to delete the page 'Michal Lauer' has been rectified, and I apologise for not previously adding sources

MagdalenaLauer (talk) 22:31, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Assassination of Gabriel Narutowicz

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Dostęp

Korzystam z kilku wikipedii, problem jest tylko z angielską. Xx234 (talk) 07:12, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Vital Heynen

How a coach that has won bronze medal on World Cup with German national team is not notable? Not only that he won the bronze medal, he did it against all odds. He's also coach of Transfer Bydgoszcz, professional team in Polish league, one of the best leagues in the world. Is there any notability guide for Volleyball? Couldn't find it. Dudek1337 (talk) 14:55, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Article expanded. Should be OK now Dudek1337 (talk) 15:35, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

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Widziałeś może, co napisałem na pl w tej sprawie? Już nie będę tu tego tłumaczyć, bo nawet nie wiem, jak jest "siatka haseł" po angielsku. Wydaje mi się jednak niewątpliwe, że w enc. i słownikach, a co najmniej tych bardziej profesjonalnych, to element twórczy utworu, i to nawet centralny, kluczowy, szczególnie trudny i szczególnie charakterystyczny. Jako (starannie tworzny) szkielet dzieła jest samą istotą tego rodzaju utworu. Link mówi wprawdzie o słownikach językowych, ale w enc. są one tworzone nieco podobnie i niemal równie starannie. PSB powstaje wprawdzie tom po tomie, ale na pewno też ma taki proces. Jeśli chcesz, możesz to tam zreferować - w końcu w Polandzie wypowiedział się sam Sąd Najwyższy. Natomiast z tego co wiem indeksy nie sa chronione, a co do spisów treści domyślam się, że tylko bardzo rzadko są twórcze (ale wyobrażam sobie takie stuacje; spis treści też możeczasem zawierać wyraźnie autorskie sformułowania i koncepcje, przykładem mogą być pl:Zasady filozofii Kartezjusza, gdzie jest już PD i przepisany w haśle) - to jednak tylko mój domysł. Siatka haseł nie jest jednak ani jednym, ani drugim. Laforgue (talk) 10:49, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Jeremi Wiśniowiecki

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Rood Adeo

Hi Piotrus, thanks for watching the subject Rood Adeo. Adeo is a recording artist for almost two decades, releasing songs on major labels, published by major publishers. However, Adeo has recorded them under different names: "Nighthawks at the Diner", "Rood & Nighthawks at the Diner, "Rood & Emanuel", "Rood" and only since 2011 under the name "Rood Adeo". Considering his notability, we should focus on all aliases; there's a lot of great stuff being written about this artist, worldwide. I hope my article may persuade others in delivering contributions and translations (especially from Dutch, Japanese and Polish; articles that I know are out there). I'm sorry I haven't quite mastered the Talkback Template, hopefully you can respond on my talk page, cheers Arjen. Arjen&for (talk) 04:03, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Beacon Roofing Supply

Thanks for watching Beacon Roofing Supply. I respectfully disagree that the article should be deleted. The company is a publicly traded company on NASDAQ and is valued at $2.5 Billion with operations across the US and Canada. Given it's size and scope, I feel that this information is important to investors, stakeholders and community members who want to know more about the company. The sources cited in the article are from independent publications such as Wall Street Journal. If there is any bias, I respectfully ask the wiki-community to help improve the quality of the page to make it more neutral. Thank you Tsehrer (talk) 13:31, 4 November 2014 (UTC)tsehrer

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WikiCup 2014: The results

The 2014 WikiCup champion is Godot13 (submissions), who flew the flag of the Smithsonian Institution. This was Godot13's first WikiCup competition and, over the 10 months of the competition, he has produced (among other contributions) two featured lists and an incredible 292 featured pictures, including architectural photographs and scans of historical documents. Cwmhiraeth (submissions), 2012 and 2013 WikiCup champion, came in second, having written a large number of biology-related articles. Casliber (submissions), WikiCup finalist every year since 2010, finished in third.

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Hello Piotrus

Hello -- We met a number of years ago when I was an active professor and you were a graduate student. You gave me considerable help here at Wikipedia. I hope things have worked out for you in your pursuit of your studies and later.

I have encountered a problem and I don't know anyone else who has any competence with the details of entering information at Wikipedia So I am hoping you might be able to help once again. Here is the problem:

I have a photograph that I would like to add to a relevant page (which is about Thomas J. Fararo). I haven't been editing anything at Wikipedia for years and that may be part of the problem. I started with following directions at a Wikipedia page called something like "how to upload (and then use) an image." I got to a certain point and then things didn't work out. In detail:

I uploaded the photograph from my computer using directions for uploading for the "free" type, i.e. following directions for uploading to the Commons. But just when it seemed all was done I could not get the image displayed. When I look at the edit page for "Thomas J. Fararo" I see on the right side "File: Image Thomas J. Fararo.jpg." That corresponds to the name on the photograph.

I wasn't sure what to do next so maybe this is where I made my mistake. When I click on "File: Image ..." I am taken to a form to fill out in terms of source file, destination, and description. The destination is already filled in automatically from the edit page I was at.

Then when I try to indicate the source file on that form, thinking I would be taken to the Commons, instead what pops up is the location on my computer that contains the original photograph already uploaded -- so I get the message (paraphrasing) "This is a duplicate." So the photo is there on the Commons but I can't "use" it in the sense of getting it displayed.

Is this too complex or can you see what I did incorrectly and what I should have done or perhaps still can do?

Thank you for any assistance you can provide. My username here is SeniorScribbler — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeniorScribbler (talk • contribs) 23:05, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

List_of_Poles - ten years later

Hi Chris. Almost 10 years ago you helped me out with creating User:Piotrus/List_of_Poles. Now we are thinking about converting it to a format that will work with MM;s Mix'n'Match; see User_talk:Piotrus#Re:_m:Mix.27n.27match. I'd appreciate your input; as well as whether you have the files that are now 404 on the list page? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:39, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Good to hear from you Piotr. I don't have much time to edit wikipedia these days. It is hard to believe that list was 10 years ago. At times like these I'm glad to be a packrat. Here is the data you are looking for. Good luck in your work with MM. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22211570/poles.tgz --ChrisRuvolo (t) 03:31, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Your feedbacks about Quantifying Editor Lifecycle in Wikipedia

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Hi, Piotrus. The Poles need to build the wall and tank ditch between Poland and Ukraine where Russian volunteers are participating in war in Donbass. The Russian volunteers are unable to distinguish between the Poles and the Ukrainians and unable to stop the war by themselves, so they can advance until they reach and occupy Poland. If that happens, Vladimir Putin will invent ideology for this deplorable occupation: Poland was a socialist country, an ally of the Soviet Union, and we will be united nations and the best friends again. We are sorry for the war and cannot stop it. The war is a chain reaction, domino effect. --Psychiatrick (talk) 17:48, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

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Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search program could not find the page. A link inside a template, to a local page that does not exist, will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to a error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like [10] with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.

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Bills.Com

Hi there! I saw the notability flag you placed on Bills.Com page and was wondering if you could help me out. I did not create the page and I am by no means a Wiki expert. However, I do like their website and I see them all over the news so I have been flagging it to watch. Can you help me with the definition of notable? Like I said, I see them all the time in news and maybe I just need to redo the entire article. I thought being in the news was enough? If I redo the whole article, do I need to reach out to the original creator? I used to be big into WikiPedia and dropped off a bit after I got a job so it's been awhile and I don't remember protocol. Plus, I dont think I've ever re-written an entire article. Seems like a daunting task.

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Edit Hans Schauder

3world Kid (talk) 09:22, 11 November 2014 (UTC) Hi. I don't know if I am doing this correctly, but can only take an educated guess on the basis of your note above. I refer to your edit of the page on Hans Schauder questioning notability and the warning re biographies of living persons. Hans Schauder died in 2001, as is stated in the biography. His notability is based on his founding of two organisations, Garvald Homes for Special Needs and the Camphill community, as well as his cooperation in the founding of the Hans Schauder Institute in Karlsruhe on the basis of the particular counseling methods he developed. I am therefore left a little mystified by the edits, as I have come across many biographies on Wikipedia about persons who have achieved both lesser fame and lesser accomplishments. I am working on a page on the Garvald centres, which should increase the credibility of the entry once it is linked.

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re:Bills.Com

Thank you for getting back to me on that article! I never took the time to really delve into the many Wikipedia commands outside of the basic ones so not sure what you mean by Prod template/tag.  :( However, I will definitely take your advise to heart. I agree Wikipedia should not be the yellow pages. I really never thought of it like that until you said that. I will begin researching tomorrow and hopefully bring the article up to standards in the very very near future. I will message you again when I am done for your feedback. Be warned, it may be a few messages lol. However, it is very much appreciated.  :)

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Maximilian Kolbe

Hi Piotrus, I finally got to read your work on the page for St. Maximilian Kolbe. It took me much lnoger than I had planned, but I did fnally get to do it! I thought I should reply here rather than on User talk:Antique Rose's talk page again.

First, let me tell you that I really enjoyed reading your work on the page. I know a little bit about St. Max and I am a lay person in the Knights of the Immaculata. So, I enjoyed seeing you include what I already knew about the man. In addition, I appreciated some of the new information you found. For example, as controversial as the play "The Deputy" is for Roman Catholics, I honestly never knew that bits of it involved St. Max.

I found four phrases that you might want to change (and I gave examples in italics below), but quite honestly for the sake of accuracy, the fourth suggestion is the only one I really feel needs to be changed. This is good work, thank you for allowing me to read it and think about it Piotrus. (Sorry we got off on the wrong foot. I am very happy to have made your aquaintance!)

Here are my four phrase-change ideas (and these are just my analytical suggestions, not criticisms in any way...you did a great job!):

1) “Kolbe's life was strongly influenced by a childhood vision of the Virgin Mary that he received in 1906 in Pabianice.”

Consider moving the word “childhood” to a later point in the sentence, so poor readers do not confuse the time period term with the descriptive word “childish.” Still using the word, but putting it (or a variation of it) later in the sentence will still allow the reader to make his or her own determination about what might have been the cause of the vision. I suggest that the sentence could be written as follows (I put the change in italics):

“Kolbe's life was strongly influenced by a vision of the Virgin Mary that he received as a child in 1906 in Pabianice.”

2) “The Immaculata friars utilized the most modern printing and administrative techniques in publishing catechetical and devotional tracts, a daily newspaper with a circulation of 230,000 and a monthly magazine with a circulation of over one million.”

I don’t believe that St. Max created a new order called the Immaculata Friars during his lifetime; rather, the Militia Immaculata is an apostolate that involves both lay people and clergy. The friars who worked with St. Max during his lifetime remained Conventual Franciscan Friars (O.F.M. Conv.). (The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate came later.) In addition to that vowed state in life, some of the Conventual Franciscan Friars were men who also joined the Militia Immaculata movement started by St. Max. I suggest that the sentence could be written as follows (I put the change in italics):

"Friars working with Kolbe in the Militia Immaculata utilized the most modern printing and administrative techniques in publishing catechetical and devotional tracts, a daily newspaper with a circulation of 230,000 and a monthly magazine with a circulation of over one million."

3) “The guards wanted the bunker emptied and they gave Kolbe a lethal injection of carbolic acid.”

This is a minor comment about which coordinating conjunction to use in the sentence. Since the Nazis gave St. Max the carbolic acid because they wanted to empty the bunker he occupied, I suggest using the coordinating conjunction “so” rather than “and.” I suggest that the sentence could be written as follows (I put the change in italics):

“The guards wanted the bunker emptied, so they gave Kolbe a lethal injection of carbolic acid.”

4) "Kolbe was venerated by Pope Paul VI on 30 January 1969,beatified as a Confessor of the Faith by the same Pope in 1971 and canonized as a martyr by Pope John Paul II on 10 October 1982.”

The word “saint” should be used rather than “martyr.” You clarify that he is a martyr in the next sentence as well as in the controversies section. As you have discussed, basically, when Kolbe died for his faith, he was already a martyr. He was canonized a “saint” after the Roman Catholic Church progressed through the steps of holiness inquiries for St. Max to see if he could be included in the list (canon) of persons known to be in heaven enjoying the beatific vision of God. I suggest that the sentence could be written as follows (I put the change in emboldened italics):

“Kolbe was venerated by Pope Paul VI on 30 January 1969,beatified as a Confessor of the Faith by the same Pope in 1971 and canonized as a saint by Pope John Paul II on 10 October 1982.”

Be well, Taram (talk) 21:41, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

I realized there is one last comment about something that needs to be changed in the sentence in number four above. When you write that "Kolbe was venerated by Pope Paul VI," it could mean that the Pope honored him rather than allowed him to be given the title of Venerable. For example Catholics venerate (give honor to) relics, but relics are not given the title of Venerable. As an English speaking Catholic, I would write something like this:

“Kolbe was declared venerable by Pope Paul VI on 30 January 1969,beatified as a Confessor of the Faith by the same Pope in 1971 and canonized as a saint by Pope John Paul II on 10 October 1982.”

Just another thought to clarify actions. Thank you for your great and hard work, Piotrus.

Taram (talk) 21:55, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ProPay

Hi Piotrus. You didn't leave a deletion rationale in the AfD for ProPay. An oversight I'm sure, but obviously it's likely to get speedily kept if you don't go and fill it in. :-) Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 05:27, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

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As you requested.... — revi_msg 08:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Dong Seoul Bus Terminal

I created it yesterday, FYI. — revi_msg 10:38, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Btw, did you take photo for Dong Seoul Bus Terminal? Then, please upload them and use on article (probably using gallery) so I can do some categorization @ commons. :) — revi_msg 13:14, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Ping to Talk Page

Hi, you requested a detailed information of why Urban Artist Soap may I find notable; but actually I don't find any talkback article talk page. Karlhard ^{(talk to me)} 00:01, 19 November 2014 (UTC)