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Hi NorthAmerica, Hope all's well, Could you move Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oririo back to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mc Keezy K (and then delete the redirects) please - Someone had moved the AFD twice to stupid names and until now had gone undetected, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:54, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

  •   Fixed. The redirects remain in place for attribution purposes. North America1000 00:32, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

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I hereby award this barnstar for your impressive and wonderful work on Singapore article. I appreciate everything you’ve done. Thank you Northamerica1000. Lee788 (talk) 20:14, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

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Deleting Lucy Simmonds

00:20, 23 January 2015 Northamerica1000 (talk | contribs) deleted page Lucy Simmonds (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucy Simmonds)

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Please can you undelete the page "Lucy Simmonds" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mywikinameis (talkcontribs) 15:29, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

  • Hello Mywikinameis: A problem is that per the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucy Simmonds, it was determined that the subject does not meet Wikipedia's notability standards (e.g. see WP:BASIC and WP:NOTE) for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Per the overall arguments and consensus at the deletion discussion, I'm not allowed to restore the deleted article under these circumstances.
Can you provide any evidence that the subject may meet any of Wikipedia's notability criteria? This would serve to provide a means for the article to be recreated. For example, has the subject received significant coverage in reliable sources that is beyond routine, local coverage? North America1000 23:03, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

http://blog.hellomagazine.com/natalieanderson/2016/02/filming-family-time-and-a-romantic-weekend-away/ http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/theatre-news/review-mary-poppins--palace-10793379 http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/what-s-on/theatre/liam-rudden-capital-audiences-in-for-a-treat-as-zizi-plays-perfect-poppins-1-3977072 https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Lucy+Simmonds%22&tbm=nws following??? https://www.facebook.com/lucysimmondsofficial — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mywikinameis (talkcontribs) 15:57, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

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Hi PrimaPreussen: Check out Template:Userboxtop. North America1000 02:59, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Plum cake

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Your revert

Hi, you reverted my edit on Chips and dip, restoring the text "Elements of double-dipping have been broadcast on U.S. television shows." with the Edit summary "It is in the WP:LEAD, which is meant to summarize key points in articles)".

a) Please show me where in the body of the article this "key point" is made. b) What on earth does that sentence even mean? What is an "element of double-dipping"?

Best, --Macrakis (talk) 22:43, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Macrakis – I just rewrote the word "Elements" to "Aspects" in the article (diff). They mean the same thing as worded, but perhaps "aspects" is a bit more specific. North America1000 22:46, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Regarding the first part of your comment, see the Chips and dip § Double-dipping in popular culture section in the article. North America1000 22:48, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I see what you mean. Wouldn't it be simpler to say just "Double dipping has been mentioned in popular TV shows."? Which still doesn't seem necessary in the lead. --Macrakis (talk) 21:48, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
I changed it to read "Aspects of double-dipping have been mentioned on U.S. television shows". North America1000 00:08, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Halloween cake

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This is an interesting article! The images are especially compelling. Thanks for all of your hard work! Royalbroil 14:48, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
@Royalbroil: Thanks for the encouragement. Cheers, North America1000 23:22, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

KPOGCL

Hi, Northamerica1000. Two weeks ago you deleted KPOGCL. This article is back. I tried to clean it up, but, if to be kept, it needs a lot of work. Thought you may want to know. Beagel (talk) 00:36, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

@Beagel: Thanks for the notification. The previous version was deleted as a copyvio per WP:G12. The present version does not appear to have this problem (e.g. [11]). There's a minor hit, but the content is not verbatim per the source, and appears to have been rewritten in one's own words from that source. North America1000 00:53, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

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I believe I should have received DYK credit for Meaza Ashenafi. Who do I talk to about this? Thanks!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:57, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: Looks like Dr. Blofeld provided credit on your talk page (diff). North America1000 16:56, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Yes, indeed he did. He took care of the problem. Thanks for reply.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:59, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

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Aquatic weed harvester

I reviewed the Aquatic weed harvester article for DYK and thought it rather incomplete. Would you like me to expand it a bit? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:59, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

I responded at Template:Did you know nominations/Aquatic weed harvester, to keep the conversation in one area. North America1000 14:57, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
I apologize for any misunderstanding between us in connection with this article. I have now finished adding to it. I found it difficult to add information on the machinery involved because most of what I found was by firms marketing their products rather than general information. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:16, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Nigeria Writing Contest

Hi NorthA,

Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia. I will be glad if you can serve in the Jury for Wiki Loves Nigeria Writing Contest. Please, let me know what you think. Thanks. Wikigyt@lk to M£ 14:33, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

@Wikicology: Thanks for the invitation, and I like the writing contest that you have devised. However, I'm going to pass on being one of the judges there. I have taken note of the page you created at Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Nigeria/Writing Contest/Articles suggestions, particularly the red links, for which new articles may be created. North America1000 17:07, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you so much. The community is proud of you. Wikigyt@lk to M£ 17:15, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
@Wikicology: Hey, that's nice. I'm proud of the community and its spirit of writing collaboration, among other things. North America1000 17:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
@Wikicology:– Also, the Music of Africa article is presently the TAFI project's present collaboration of the week, if you're interested in the topic. The TAFI project works on various articles about diverse topics, at a rate of one per week. I noticed that you're not a member of the project, and I have sent you an invitation for your consideration, since you seem to appreciate editing collaboration. North America1000 17:28, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
My pleasure. Wikigyt@lk to M£ 18:16, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Focaccia

NA, you're an experienced editor and an admin, so I am surprised you did a blanket revert on my edits to focaccia al rosmarino. For example, you restored "It is sometimes served with prosciutto" which is based on a blog post (certainly not a WP:RS) about a sandwich of figs and goat cheese which also included ham. I am sure that there are many clever sandwich ideas for all different kinds of focaccia, but it seems pointless to document them all in WP. There are also all sorts of variants of focaccia dough, e.g., with capers, with olives, with herbs, with some combination of the above, etc. What is the point of documenting each one separately? Should we also have articles on pepperoni pizza (which is not a redlink because it — sensibly — redirects to pizza), artichoke pizza, etc. etc.? --Macrakis (talk) 21:47, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

  • The short answer: I reverted because your edits removed valuable content from the article, and changed it in a manner that is not consistent with what the sources report. For example, it is a style of pizza, but you removed all of that. I'm not sure why you are all of the sudden very interested in this new article I just created today and changing it all around, but please 1) allow time for editors to expand articles before you remove all of the content, and 2) read the sources before removing sourced content. Since you want the article merged, the manner in which you removed a significant portion of the article could be construed as an attempt to further qualify your stance for a merge. North America1000 21:51, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
  • I just added another source to the article in re service with prosciutto. These things take time. Please don't be so eager to remove all the content while I'm still working on it. North America1000 21:57, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Regarding the notion of having a separate article for pepperoni pizza, I actually support this, because there's virtually no content about it in the pizza article that the link redirects to. The pizza article presently simply has a single mention of the word "pepperoni" in the context of toppings (permanent link). See below for the plethora of significant coverage about the topic. This is actually a decent prospect for a standalone article, because it has received significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. North America1000 22:05, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
  • I just added an internal link to pepperoni in the pizza article (diff). It's a start. North America1000 22:14, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
  • I am still working on the focaccia al rosmarino article, and may nominate it for WP:DYK to appear on main page. I have found more sources to expand the article further, and have removed the merge template from the article, because the topic has received enough overall coverage to qualify for a standalone article. North America1000 22:53, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

your misguided notions

Extended content

Many of those edits (most?) are two part edits where I move a section to another section. Showing that I cut things is not really fair. In some of the cases you pointed to I cut sections and moved them to another page entirely. My edits are quite fair. Now that we've finally moved that silly section to it's own place in the article where people can debate what year Drumpf became Trump your accusation is, to be frank, off base and wrong and it makes assumptions that you are not supposed to make... that is that I am not doing things for the betterment of the community. Kindly take your misguided notions elsewhere. --Potguru (talk) 16:45, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

  Moved to User talk:Potguru
 – North America1000 16:52, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
  • N.b. Replied at the user's talk page, to keep the discussion in one area. My notions are guided by Wikipedia policies and guidelines, and as such, are properly guided. North America1000 16:58, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

cool purple archive trick

hey, ace, come make all these top sections on the talk page read "archived purposed only outcome was speedy deletion voted down"or some such ieTalk:Donald_J_Drumpf#Contested_deletion ..or point me to the tool to DIY. Thanks! --Potguru (talk) 19:47, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

  • I am declining becoming involved in this matter at this time. If you'd like, you can request assistance by copying and pasting {{Help me}} atop a section on your talk page, and post your question below the banner the template creates. North America1000 06:17, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

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A favor?

I know that this may not be your area of expertise (or perhaps it is...), but would you mind taking a glance at Wayzata Bay Center? It was an enclosed shopping mall near my place of residence. Very little of the mall's history is included on the internet, but I think the article looks pretty good for all that's out there. Mainly, I want to hear your opinion of whether or not I should nominate it for GA status. I would appreciate it very much, thanks. Carbrera (talk) 23:34, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

  • @Carbrera: I'll respond soon. I'm touching up a few articles I've been working on, after which I'm logging off shortly. Need a bit of time. I have made a few copy edits to the article. North America1000 23:44, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
  • @Carbrera: I have reassessed the article to B-class on the talk page, and added the WikiProject Minnesota template there. North America1000 23:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Hey thanks! It's very much appreciated. Carbrera (talk) 23:51, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
  • I think you should nominate the article for GA review. It appears to meet all of the key points of the Good article criteria. One minor matter: I recommend trying to find a better source to replace the PR Newswire one, if such better source is available. North America1000 23:37, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
I nominated it! Thanks, once again for all your help and suggestions. I'll give it a look! Carbrera (talk) 23:49, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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Any idea why the article Donald Trump (Last_Week_Tonight) deserves to be an article and not simply an added paragraph summarizing the segment in the article Last Week Tonight with John Oliver? It's polemic and politically motivated. There are numerous episodes just like it about other presidential candidates that would be SD so has something changed that I'm not aware of? Atsme📞📧 14:06, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

@Atsme: As long as the article adheres to a neutral point of view, I'm all right with its existence. The topic has received a great deal of coverage in reliable sources, which is what Wikipedia's content is based upon. Also, a recent AfD discussion about a related topic here closed as a merge into the article. North America1000 17:44, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
@Northamerica1000: while I appreciate your perspective, I am justifiably concerned over this "trend". I posted to Jimbo's TP and he also believes it warrants discussion, [26]. Where do you think is the best place to begin for community input? Atsme📞📧 16:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

@Atsme: At this point, due to its length, the article would provide undue weight toward this particular topic at the main Last Week Tonight with John Oliver article about a segment of season 3, episode 3. Conversely, pruning the article down to make it fit there could be perceived as an omission of facts from the encyclopedia. Perhaps an article could be created about the entire episode, and then the article could be merged to that one. Note that there are a few other episode pages, as denoted at List of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver episodes, and it's a natural Wikipedian response for pages to be created about them when they meet notability guidelines. Places to discuss the article and this type of content include it's talk page, the talk page at WP:POLITICS and perhaps the talk page at WP:TELEVISION. I would go with WP:POLITICS. I recommend posting a Requests for comment atop the discussion should you create it.

While the episode of the television show could be described as "polemic and politically motivated", the article itself is not. It is written neutrally from what reliable sources report and state. I stand by the notion that as a topic that has received significant coverage in reliable sources, the topic qualifies for an article. Per your opinions above, the possible perception of attempted censorship of this content from Wikipedia per your personal views could also be perceived as being "polemic and politically motivated", particularly if you're a Trump supporter (which I have no idea if you are or not). There's no offense intended toward you here, but this is important to mention to cover all of the bases, because people may question your intentions and motivations. North America1000 18:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback. Articles like this, regardless of who they are written about (I just happened across this one at one of the noticeboards or in an RfC) are as disconcerting to me as would be any explosion of WP:Recentism regardless of the subject. WP is not a newspaper. I went through something similar with the Emerson gaff that bled over to articles like No-go area and Investigative Project on Terrorism. If we're going to discard what WP:RECENTISM suggests and throw common sense to the wind regarding GNG, then everything that was ever said about a political candidate that received widespread coverage, which includes nearly everything covered during an election year, would qualify as a standalone article per your interpretation. Quite frankly, Rubio's comment about Trumps' small hands got more mainstream media coverage [27] than the John Oliver episode. Also keep in mind that there are all kinds of skits and SNL episodes about the various candidates. For example, Bernie Sanders is mocked on SNL by Larry David, [28], and there's all the Hillary Clinton episodes which could easily be forked from Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy, and there's also the Benghazi controversy which could end up being a standalone article even though there's an article about Hillary Rodham Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State. Do you see what I mean? Allowing one will open the flood gates to forking, not to mention recentism if they're being sourced to media coverage because of the ongoing presidential election - and that is exactly what most of them are because the politicians are fair game right now. I won't bother to show further examples of the other candidates because I think you get my point. Regarding your reference of my intentions, we all have a POV which only becomes problematic when closed minds are involved. Rather than go on about it, I'll just let my user contributions speak for me. If I may, I will also take this opportunity to confirm my position and code of ethics on WP by stating to you now that I leave my biases at login. I attribute my ability for the latter to 30+ years of training and hands-on experience as a publisher/journalist/writer/tv scriptwriter, dating back to a time when unbiased reporting followed a code of ethics and actually meant something; long before political pundits became what we know today as news anchors/commentators. Atsme📞📧 20:06, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
@Atsme: Short answer (working on other stuff right now): I tried to word my response delicately above. I didn't mean to imply that you are biased, just that other users could potentially perceive your intentions as biased. North America1000 21:00, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Ha! Hmmm...it appears posts are being censored at that FB page. Regardless, what it represents to me is an open door for WP articles on any "trending" FB page, tweet or blog regardless of GNG & RS guidelines. See the following which is probably more deserving of an article as it actually does have EV, [29]. The Sanders' article results from a FB page with only 350,000 members and the only reason it received any attention is because Sanders is a candidate and folks are having fun with it. It shouldn't be anything more than a short paragraph in his WP campaign article and maybe in an article about memes. I mean seriously, one of the cited sources is the USA Today's section "College - 2016 Election" which is nothing more than a compilation of blogs and tweets from supporters. Where is the cut-off point or is there one? In what direction do articles like this lead us? I fail to see any encyclopedic value in it. I think there's confusion over what is considered "encyclopedic" vs "newsworthy". They are two completely different animals. Comic strips and skits on SNL are funny but each episode doesn't warrant a standalone article. Motion pictures have a tougher time getting a WP article than some of these political skits. I can't help but see them as a challenge to recentism, forking, soapbox, advocacy, GNG, RS, etc. Perhaps it's worthy of mention in an article about memes and the candidate's political campaign with strict adherence to NPOV, but standalone - meh. Sorry to be a party pooper, but I fail to see how these types of articles help build a credible encyclopedia. They'll get hits while "tending" and then they'll be forgotten - pure recentism. I see them as part of what chips away at the very foundation of WP and its long standing encyclopedic value. If the goal is to change WP's direction to accommodate recentism, blogs, tabloidish articles, activism, advocacy, then we've got a good start. I think they fall under the following in WP:GNG: "Presumed" means that significant coverage in reliable sources creates an assumption, not a guarantee, that a subject should be included. A more in-depth discussion might conclude that the topic actually should not have a stand-alone article—perhaps because it violates what Wikipedia is not, particularly the rule that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Atsme📞📧 14:03, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Atsme: Well, you have a lot more passion about these topics than I do. To be honest, I'm not very concerned about these articles, so I don't have much to say about them. You will likely get more response by discussing matters at WT:POLITICS. North America1000 17:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Quite frankly NA1000 - my passion for it ends with my posts to you. 😆 You're a good ear to bend, or I should say a good set of eyes to eyecercise. If the WP servers can handle all the junk articles, so be it. I've graduated beyond "passion" - I'm retired. Atsme📞📧 19:20, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

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