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Not sure because of the header. I hope you are back. —usernamekiran(talk) 10:56, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Nice to see your date stamp. I hope you got some rest on your break. The pedia seems saner when you're watching. BusterD (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Roy Moore sexual misconductEdit

Hi Coffee, thanks for applying the discretionary sanctions to the Roy Moore sexual misconduct article. I had already applied them under the BLP case authority, but the page must have been moved without the page notice again. I’m fine with your sanctions as well since they are the exact same, but I didn’t know what to do. Yours is likely in a clearer subject area, so it might be worth rescinding mine.
Also, you’re probably interested in the parameter conversation at Template talk:Post-1932 American politics discretionary sanctions page restrictions. If you’re still not back, feel free to ignore this, but thought it best to post. All the best, TonyBallioni (talk) 14:37, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Welcome back!Edit

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Yes, welcome back, Coffee! You have been missed! Some flowers for you, above. Softlavender (talk) 03:30, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Welcome back! :) Patient Zerotalk 10:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!Edit

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg Welcome back, Coffee! Here's some coffee to welcome you back after you get drunk from Ad Orientem's whiskey. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 23:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Yup. Good to see you. GMGtalk 21:18, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm really glad you're back, Coffee. GABgab 16:09, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

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For your work making sure that some of the most contentious areas of Wikipedia run smoothly upon your return. It is appreciated. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:07, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Season's GreetingsEdit

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Merry HanukkahEdit

Hi Coffee. FYI just because I don't say thanks a lot does not mean I'm not thankful a lot. Cheers. Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:53, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

FYI, there was a long discussion here about how “longstanding content” is handled under discretionary sanctions. It was an interesting discussion. Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:24, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!Edit

Happy HolidaysEdit

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From Stave one of Dickens A Christmas Carol

Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country’s done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

So you see even Charles was looking for a reliable source :-) Thank you for your contributions to the 'pedia. ~ MarnetteD|Talk 00:34, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!Edit

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Merry Christmas!Edit

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Merry ChristmasEdit

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Hello Coffee, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2018.
Happy editing,
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Happy New Year, Coffee!Edit

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Take careEdit

Flower bouquet - panoramio (4381).jpg Get better and get back to your amazing self soon!
I wish you a speedy recovery. Get well soon.  samee  talk 15:47, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
@Samee: Thank you very much! The flu is still with me (two 14 hour flights made me catch probably 200 people's germs) but I'm fighting it as much as I can. Face-smile.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 15:50, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Take rest and have plenty of fluids.  samee  talk 15:53, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks very much...=Edit

...for your kind words, first of all. They're greatly appreciated.

Thanks also for the alert. I don't think I'll have any trouble - most of what I do in that realm is gnome-related work, anyhow - but give me a shout if you catch anything. I do have a tendency, sometimes, to stumble into something without quite meaning to. :-)

Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:57, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: I doubt that you will have issues either, being our most prolific contributor in the history of the site! I just always like to make sure all editors/admins/etc are aware of the stuff surrounding certain topics. I'll be sure to let you know if there's any issues, however unlikely that is. Thank you once again for all that you do here. You're someone to look up to! Face-smile.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 18:04, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
No, that's very wise - always better to be safe than sorry.
And stop it, you're making me blush. :-) And red really isn't my color. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:37, 21 January 2018 (UTC)


...for helping to protect the 2018 Women's March article. Much appreciated! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:36, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!Edit


You're awesome. Keep up the good work.

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  • Awe... thank you 日本穣! That means a lot coming from you, and I surely needed the good energy after today. どうもありがとう!! Face-smile.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 22:03, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
    • We all have bad days (whether self-caused or caused by others), so it's good to remember the good in the world. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:04, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
      • Coffee is nothing but a bad influence on people. Just look how many people in the world are overly attached to him. ;-)—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:11, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you and your wonderful signature!Edit

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg Silly thing, but your signature is one of the most aesthetically pleasing I've come across on enwiki in my many years lurking here. Something about it is just SO satisfying. -- Cheers, Alfie. (Say Hi!) 23:01, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

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I think your work as an admin is consistent and fair. You work in very contentious areas where most editors prefer to avoid and I can only assume most admins would prefer to avoid. You continue to do so while being targeted by a number of editors. This should either have a chilling effect or just be so tiring that you just quit. But you soldier on. This is very commendable. So for what ever this wiki-flare is worth have a Barnstar. -Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 04:15, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much for that Serialjoepsycho! It really means a lot to me that anyone sees what I'm truly trying to do here. Face-smile.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 04:21, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Especially for you...Edit

With a bit of a Spanish accent, here are my two sheets because contrary to what you believe, I believe people here (editors) do care about other people's feelings, and understand the stress and time constraints admins are under, and are very well aware that sometimes sheet happens. If nothing else, I hope I've made you smile.:-D Atsme📞📧 16:57, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

How you doing?Edit

Just sending some l-u-v. Fishlandia (talk) 19:08, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

@Fishlandia: Stressed but hanging in there and keeping strong. Such is life I guess... thanks for the positive energy. I hope you're well! Face-smile.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 21:42, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
@Fishlandia: I've noticed you doing some work over on Fannie Lou Hamer, would you want to work together at some point and get it ready for/put it through a Good article nomination? I think more great civil rights leaders like her deserve to be displayed on our main page. Face-smile.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 08:07, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
I'd love to! I'll be back over there this evening or so. Fishlandia (talk) 12:09, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
@Fishlandia: Fantastic! I just transferred all of the issues the last GA reviewer identified to Talk:Fannie Lou Hamer/GA workshop, that way we can keep the integrity of the first review and then renominate it. I'm busy with a lot of admin/WMF work too, but I'll be pushing my time towards getting Ms. Hamer's article up to GA status with y'all as much as I can! (Just noticed @A21sauce: is assisting with this article too!! Very glad to have you on board, this is the most activity I've seen on improving a southern civil rights leader's article in my time here! - There's a couple other articles I'm sure y'all would be interested in helping get to GA too, but we'll talk about those later. Either way, great to see you both care about this.) Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 12:41, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Happy to help;)--A21sauce (talk) 19:31, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!Edit

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg Coffee, meet coffee. Coffee is delicious. Coffee is wonderful. Coffee is steaming hot. Coffee is sweet. Coffee is bitter. Coffee is a guilty pleasure. Coffee warms your heart. Coffee is magical. Whenever you drink coffee, you kiss it.

Coffee. Is coffee.

No seriously, cheers! —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 16:20, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your messages!Edit

Thank you for the message related the the US Presidential Election of 2016 article. I had read the notice and wasn't planning to make more than one revert, but thank you anyways! Also thank you for the welcome, it is a bit belated. :) Academic Ninja (talk) 07:20, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

@AcademicNinja: Unfortunately, our recent changes patrollers can get a bit WP:BITEY sometimes, so my apologies for that ... also don't worry about WP:1RR if you're reverting vandalism which this appeared to be. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 07:31, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
@Coffee: No problem, it's okay! I was just a bit confused when you thanked me for my edit and then I got the notice from you. Also, I didn't consider that vandalism, that could have been a good-faith edit by a user who found wrong information.

Thanks for blocking Nefft24Edit

"I am working for Ashinaga" Ah, how could that slip me? I wasn't quite sure about whether I was right to revert after his message, so I just moved on... Thanks for being WP:BOLD and blocking Nefft24 :) Academic Ninja (talk) 08:03, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

No problem! Face-smile.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 08:04, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
After his last unblock appeal (technically just a talkpage messge, but formatting's an uphill struggle for newbies) I'm more than half inclined to lift the block - what's your opinion? Yunshui  14:12, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Any further thoughts after reading his reply? Yunshui  16:10, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Much obliged. Will keep an eye on their pet project, just to be on the safe side... Yunshui  16:53, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Sounds like a plan! Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 17:36, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


Hi, Just to let you know I pinged you at User talk:Albin Schmitt so you could give that editor a 1rr template however they've decided to instantly archive that message instead!, I know we're not on the best of terms but you're the only editor I know who issues it hence the ping, Anyway sorry for that!, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:42, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

For future reference the template and instructions is listed here: {{ds/alert}} Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 19:51, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Ah brilliant thank you, I'll dump that in my notes and shant ping again, Many thanks :), –Davey2010Talk 20:13, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Fannie Lou HamerEdit

Thanks so much for your enthusiastic help on this. One thing: I found out more about the deaths of one of her daughters, some information about her mother living with her, and the names of her grandchildren so I will re-start a family section towards the end so that it doesn't bog down the beginning.--A21sauce (talk) 19:59, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

@A21sauce: Fantastic!!! I'm very glad to hear that we can expand on her personal life a bit more. This was one amazingly brave woman! Thank for you're help too! You, Fishlandia, and I are going to get this to GA status in no time at all, at this rate! Face-smile.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 20:12, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

X1\ HughD sock account.Edit

Coffee, I saw that you blocked X1\ as a sock account. As the person who initiated the investigation I'm no longer certain they are the same person. The writing style is different now that I've read more more and appears to include some non English entries. To the best of my knowledge the investigation hasn't been closed. Given the editor came in with a very good understanding of how Wikipedia works I tend to believe there was a previous account but I have no proof of that. Anyway, I feel I had to let you know in good conscience. Springee (talk) 11:28, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

@Springee: A CU had requested admin action, noting technical inconclusiveness. However, the clerk (@QEDK: noted that they were behaviorally the same. I took action on that basis, but as you've laid out some decent doubts here I'll recheck the block immediately. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 15:48, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
@Springee: I'm going to need you to be more specific here. I've placed the block on hold, and from what it appears (from my discussions with them) the clerk read the evidence differently, than you are now. Could you provide some diffs, perhaps, which might highlight the differences you see between the accounts? Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 16:47, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Coffee, if the clerks think the editor is a sock then I will trust them. I'm just not as sure based on the way X1\ replied vs the way known HughD socks replied. Basically I started with a hunch then searched for evidence. I'm now not as certain about the hunch that this is HughD (I still suspect this isn't the editor's first account). Sorry, that is wishy washy. I would deffer to the opinions of the clerks. Should this discussion be moved to the investigation page? Springee (talk) 17:14, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
@Springee: Well for now I'm leaning towards unblocking the account, with this much reasonable doubt appearing to come from you. But part of me is also leaning on waiting for the user to make an unblock request of any form. @TonyBallioni and Black Kite: What are your ideas? Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 17:30, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
In looking through the previously confirmed socks, I see enough of a difference that I think unblocking makes sense, especially since the clerk appears to be fine with it at this point. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:46, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
@TonyBallioni, Springee, QEDK, Bbb23, and Black Kite: The block on the account has been eraser Undone. Thank you all for your help in this matter! Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 18:02, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

List of cinema halls in ThiruvananthapuramEdit

Hi, This is about the recently merged article List of cinema halls in Thiruvananthapuram. The article was merged with Thiruvananthapuram by creating a new section called 'Film Industry'. This doesn't go with the standardized section contents as in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cities. So I moved the the section to Culture of Thiruvananthapuram, which seemed more appropriate. But as the result of the discussion was to merge to Thiruvananthapuram, is this okay? AG47 Talk 14:21, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

@AG47: Yes, that should be fine as that is an appropriate sub-page for such a list to reside on. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 16:49, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! AG47 Talk 17:10, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
You're very welcome. Always feel free to talk to me if you have any further questions or concerns! Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 17:14, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail!Edit

Hello, Coffee. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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GABgab 20:29, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Correct hook to choose from, from available hooksEdit

  •  Administrator note: There is no issue in discussing ALT1, ALT3, ALT4, or ALT5... (ALT 6 is another variation of ALT0 that is non-compliant with policy(see WP:BLPDS & WP:ARBAPDS)). Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 05:05, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Feel free to conduct it here if you please:

Are you aroundEdit

Trying to get ahold of you to chat on FB or IRC. You around anywhere? Bastique ☎ call me! 05:36, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

I've replied. Looking into the issue now. Thanks for the heads up! Face-smile.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 05:49, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


Pursuant to the expectations laid out in WP:ADMINACCT, I am requesting and anticipating a full response and explanation for this misjudged action. I want to know:

  • 1. What "behavioural evidence" led you to the erroneous conclusion that Davey2116 was a sockpuppet of Doc9871? In detail please.
  • 2. Why you didn't do an editor interaction analyzer check? and what it would have told you if you had.
  • 3. Why you didn't request a CU to confirm your suspicions?
  • 4. What steps you're going to take in the future to ensure that this doesn't happen again.

I've added your talk page to my watchlist. A ping is not required, though feel free to include it if you like. Mr rnddude (talk) 07:50, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

There's a lot of things, but I'd prefer to keep all of it offline (per WP:BEANS). However at the moment, I am facing a lot of emails. I will get to this as soon as I can. I promise. If you don't hear back from me soon just shoot me an email and I should see that. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 14:05, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Yes I've just noticed the below. Take your time. You've got bigger problems than this right now. Mr rnddude (talk) 14:07, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Hey Coffee, when you email Mr rnddude, can you also forward me a copy? No rush, just whenever you get around to it. :-) Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 19:48, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

If you block Insertcleverphrasehere or Smeat...Edit

I will be the first to request you be desysopped by Arbcom. I'm considering doing so anyways over your WP:INVOLVED actions at WP:DYK. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:31, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

I wouldn't be going to @MPants at work: and I apologize if that's what the warning made it appear was happening. My point was that they seriously needed to consider how disruptive they had begun to become, that is all. If anything, I only meant that other admins may have blocked them or may choose to. I'm not trying to be anyone's enemy here. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 14:07, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Okay, that clarifies that statement, but still leaves me with grave concerns over your actions on that page.
I appreciate your willingness to take decisive action when other admins seems more intent upon discussing everything to death. I really do. It's one of the things that led me to go around berating everyone who wouldn't leave you alone last week. But even then, I remained cognizant of the fact that some of your decisive actions were of a questionable utility to the project.
I don't want to file an ArbCom case against you. I don't want you to be desysopped, because I want at least one admin willing to drop the banhammer at a moment's notice, and who is willing to spam DS alerts to editors pages (I added a note to the top of my talk page to indicate that it was unnecessary because I agree that notification is a good thing). However, we both know that if I do, there will be a large number of editors (including admins and Arbs) supporting that motion, and they will provide a huge amount of diffs and arguments to support it. I don't know if it will succeed, but I strongly suspect that it will, given the undeniable fact that your use of admin tools is frequently a source of disruption to this project.
Right now, one thing that would really convince me that filing with ArbCom was unnecessary would be for you to actually take the wikibreak I suggested a few days ago. I'm pretty sure it would go a long way towards convincing some of your many detractors that your actions haven't been all that bad, as well. So please, I'm begging you here. You really need to step back to get some perspective; many of your statements remind me of WP:DOOM and WP:TIINSB, and while I'm sure you've read them both before, I strongly urge you to give them another quick once-over. Three or four days. Just long enough to realize that editing here is a hobby, not a duty. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:29, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


Take a break, come back refreshed. This place is stressful, and the policies are confusing as hell even to seasoned admin. Don't sweat the small stuff here, Coffee. I've still a long way to go, but I've learned to get less emotionally involved in Wikipedia, even while trying to help out. The place can be unhealthy. So take some time and go do something more fun than this. At least that is what I do, break from here a couple times a year and do something else, like building partscaster guitars. Used to do some work for vets (I'm a USAF vet and son of a retiree), which I probably need to get back into as that was very rewarding. Whatever it is that brings you joy, do that. Dennis Brown - 16:53, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Seconded. I think you taking a break satisfies every concern I have (I am no longer considering ArbCom), and I truly wish you the best. I hope that you come back with a lot less stress, a little more patience with some of us and the exact same willingness to act decisively as before. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 17:14, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Civility in infobox discussions case openedEdit

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2018Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2018).


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Guideline and policy news

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Technical news

  • A tag will now be automatically applied to edits that blank a page, turn a page into a redirect, remove/replace almost all content in a page, undo an edit, or rollback an edit. These edits were previously denoted solely by automatic edit summaries.


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Fannie Lou HamerEdit

Sorry to hear you're down. Hope everything's okay. When you have a chance, I'd love to talk through some issues on this article, specifically, the new section "Bibliography" (We have "Works Cited" and the notes section which form the bibliography in effect so wondered what this was about.) #2: Your notation from the Voices of Democracy series. There's Fannie Lou's quote then the material that the scholars Houck & Parker Brooks come up with and I wondered if you could distinguish each.A21sauce (talk) 20:58, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

@A21sauce and Fishlandia: I did some final touches to it today, does it look good enough to push through GAR now? Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 12:40, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Deleted page Hannibal (high-rise building)Edit

That page used to be about buildings in Stuttgart, not in Dortmund. It should have been reverted, not deleted :( (talk) 12:54, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

The page has been restored. Primefac (talk) 13:07, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Fannie Lou HamerEdit

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Fannie Lou Hamer you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ritchie333 -- Ritchie333 (talk) 14:20, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Fannie Lou HamerEdit

The article Fannie Lou Hamer you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold Symbol wait.svg. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Fannie Lou Hamer for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ritchie333 -- Ritchie333 (talk) 18:20, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Fannie Lou HamerEdit

The article Fannie Lou Hamer you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:Fannie Lou Hamer for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ritchie333 -- Ritchie333 (talk) 23:41, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: Thank you so much! I'm so happy we'll get to put another mostly unheard of, yet extremely prolific, civil rights leader on the main page for DYK! @A21sauce and Fishlandia: I couldn't have done this without your help! Expect a barnstar coming your way! Face-smile.svg Next up, Ralph Abernathy? Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 03:15, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Why not give it a whirl at FAC? Looks promising...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:53, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Just to pick up on one point during the review, it turns out we do have an article on the Life in the United Kingdom test, and it's recently had a load of news coverage as Meghan Markle is a celebrity applicant.[1] Has Jimbo Wales (a US ex-pat in London) looked at it, I wonder? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:06, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


  1. ^ "Quiz: can you pass a British citizenship test?". London Evening Standard. 2 December 2017.
@Casliber: FAC has always intimidated me. Perhaps with a good mentor though I might be willing to consider it at some point... Face-wink.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 13:05, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I have a recipe on my userpage. I won't lie - occasionally I have fumbled one even after all this time, but if you think you've scraped every last bit of encyclopedic info and it reads ok, which I think this does, it's worth a shot. I am a bit of a slob though so ask someone who has a finer eye for detail than me. I am happy to be alerted if/when you wanna do it and keep an eye/help out/etc. and I reckon Ritchie will too. narrow articles are a helluva lot easier to run through than broad ones....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:27, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstarEdit

Yes, a great example of what Wikipedia can do! Since we're on the topic of accolades, I was looking at your badge for the Ten Year Society and wondered if you could nominate me for that as well... Would love one eventually.--A21sauce (talk) 14:49, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Invalid license specified in OTRS templateEdit

Hi. THIS EDIT you made last year specified an invalid value {{ConfirmationOTRS}} for |license=cc4. Note the error message on Talk:Kamnoetvidya Science Academy:

CC BY-SA 4.0 is not a compatible license.

Can you fix it? Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 21:32, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Wbm1058, yes, this caused issues earlier this year that I either had to revdel or I had to decline to restore text. We had it create an error message so OTRS agents would be alerted that CC BY-SA 4.0 is not a compatible license for text with WMF projects. Coffee was not active when we made this change. I think the reason we decided to keep that ticket there when we were reviewing it was because it makes it easier for admins who work in copyright but might not have OTRS access to understand the claims someone is making, and verify if the license is compatible or incompatible. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:36, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Found the conversation here, heh, it was right before I got my bit so I had to rely on Diannaa for that article. Anyway: the reason that I didn't remove it after JJMC89 made it an error was to let admins know what license the text was should someone try to get it restored again. That wasn't discussed there, though. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:43, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the background, Tony. You and Coffee are both listed as current OTRS members; I've never had that bit. Can you sort out the status of Kamnoetvidya Science Academy, between yourselves, please? I don't have access to the private OTRS conversations, so wouldn't know whether the license could be changed, or content needs to be removed. Noting that Coffee has been online since my post here, and hasn't responded yet. I shouldn't need to ping an admin on their own talk page. Just want to make sure Coffee didn't assume that Tony was handling it. Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 18:31, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Profanity is permittedEdit

Hey Coffee, #%&^$! /%&@@#! Not against you, of course!

I see you have a nice name. I also see you have nominated a DYK hook. I submitted one on 9 February and it is still unreviewed. Awwwww. Your hook said you didn't do the QPQ yet. Would you consider mine, which is the WestJet Encore article submitted for DYK on 9 February? Vanguard10 (talk) 04:15, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for beginning your review of the February 9 DYK nomination of WestJet Encore. I have added more references to supplement references that are press releases. In some cases, the press release is more authoritative than a news source because reporters are often not too experienced in aviation and/or airlines and get details wrong. Still, I know that Wikipedia tends not to like primary sources so I am complying with this by adding a second reference to some of the sentences that currently have citations.

A few areas are more difficult to get non-primary sources, such as frequent flyer program information. I, myself, think frequent flyer program information is a bit too commercial, but it is an established part of airline articles per Wikiproject Airlines. I have tried to make the WestJet Encore article less of an ad by not having prose that sounds like an advertisement and keeping the frequent flyer section to the minimum.

Would you look at the DYK nomination again to see if it can be approved? Vanguard10 (talk) 04:27, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

@Vanguard10: I will happily re-review it and let you know. Have you thought about checking on mine, there seems to be some confusion as to the proper understanding of DYK hooks allowed for OTD deaths...? Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 04:33, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Sure. I will look at it. I think it is of the female civil rights leader who used to be a farmer and whose livestock were poisoned because she tried to register to vote. Vanguard10 (talk) 04:41, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I have commented on your DYK nomination. However, I am awaiting a response to whether Alex has started a review or merely made a comment. If Alex is not reviewing it or does not respond in 23 hours, I will review it. On a cursory look, it looks good for an approved DYK nomination. Vanguard10 (talk) 05:11, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I have started to review it but am not finished with the review. I am sort of a DYK newbie. I am having a little trouble with the copy vio detector. It shows a high percentage, which is not desirable. However, manual review doesn't confirm plagiarism. Would you give me advice on how to evaluate this problem?
I also see in Women's History Encyclopedia, one of the citations used for the original hook, where it reads that no medical consent was obtained for a hysterectomy when she was operated on for a uterine tumor. This makes the source potentially biased, in my opinion. Surgery can sometimes lead to change in surgical plan. For example, if cancer is found, sometimes the surgery is changed so the cancer is removed. This concern over the citation doesn't affect the DYK process, though, as the part supporting the hook appears to be sound.
Another DYK newbie question; does the review recommend a hook, particularly if one of the presented hooks is stronger, appears more interesting, or for other reasons?

Vanguard10 (talk) 06:36, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

On this day, ten years ago...Edit

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Wishing Coffee a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Mz7 (talk) 00:55, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations, Coffee!!! Wow!! Hope all is well and that you'll be with us for another TEN!!! Atsme📞📧 01:14, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Happy, happy 10th!

About the hook (ALT-0), I looked again in the article and in the Nation citation. Are you sure she was beaten for attempting to register to vote? It looks like she was beaten after becoming field secretary for voter registration and welfare programs for the SCLC. Could you modify the hook or let me know that I misread something? I'm writing here because there can be some discussion outside of the DYK hook, in case I'm mistaken. Vanguard10 (talk) 06:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

@Vanguard10: I fixed the hook. I misread this source a bit and conflated the two it seems. The new hook is just as attention grabbing though, and a great fact to state on the main page in my opinion. Anyways, thanks for the help thus far! Face-smile.svg Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 09:02, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


Thank you for creating and spearheading the Civil Rights Movement wikiproject. Long overdue, important, and hopefully it will give a platform for more editors to come in and work on the civil rights pages, both historical pages and concept pages (if it includes the pages on nonviolence in the project's scope). Nice work! Randy Kryn (talk) 13:23, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

@Randy Kryn: Thanks! It amazed me that no such project already existed. I hope to get decent participation from folks after I tag all the relevant pages and whatnot. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 13:53, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
It has been mentioned but nobody ever acted on it until you have. It takes someone to give something the push over the hill, and you've done that. There are a few off-and-on regulars on the pages (and there are lots of pages, see the 1950s-1960s CRM template), but I think the key is getting new editors to commit to such a project and add to the pages and data already collected. This could really take off, and maybe get the main CRM page in some kind of good shape (I've hesitated working full-tilt on it, as I'm fairly biased on one viewpoint of "how-it-went-down"). If I was one of the editors who threw around barnstars I'd toss a few your way for creating and already working on this project. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:09, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Great stuff, thanks very much. I well remember marching with King at Selma. Doug Weller talk 14:12, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
o_O GMGtalk 14:15, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

ANI notificationEdit

An issue .. you may be involved.. here. NB, not sure if you saw the full block log. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:20, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I was going to ping Coffee as the blocking admin when I posted my comment, but I saw the wikibreak banner and decided against it. (It's nice to see you in my watchlist again, Coffee <3) -- Thanks, Alfie. talk to me | contribs 00:27, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


I have a list of articles (existing and need to be created) connected to the Civil Rights Movement listed at User:Mitchumch/Movement templates#Civil Rights Movement. I thought it might be something that might interest you. Keep up the good work. Mitchumch (talk) 06:47, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

@Mitchumch: Thank you! Face-smile.svg I have added your list to the project's to do list. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 06:53, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


I often tend to do things like this. Well not exactly like that example, but silly things in general. I have been trying to avoid this since a long time, but sometimes or others it just happens. Sometimes I even talk with DumbBOT. Once I was even involved in an edit war with AIV helper bot :-|
usernamekiran(talk) 02:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Julia StephenEdit

Thank you for all your hard work, and also for your prompt review. You caught me off guard, because the backlog suggested I had seven months to tidy up the page! If you have any suggestions about taking this to FAC they would be greatly appreciated. Not surprisingly, in the course of the review process I became aware of a number of issues, and was able to fix them. Michael Goodyear (talk) 09:37, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

@Michael Goodyear: Thank you for your even harder work improving and writing the article, it was my pleasure to help. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 10:57, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Billy GrahamEdit

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DYK nomination of And the Walls Came Tumbling DownEdit

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Sorry for the delayEdit

Apologies. I saw your question when it was posted but haven't been able to respond to it yet. Will do so before evening today. Warmly, Lourdes 09:30, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:The National MemoEdit

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DYK for White America, Inc.Edit

Updated DYK query.svgOn 25 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article White America, Inc., which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1955, a white supremacist organization claimed the racial integration of schools in the United States was a plot devised in Moscow to "mongrelize" White Americans? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/White America, Inc.. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, White America, Inc.), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for J. Charles JonesEdit

Updated DYK query.svgOn 26 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article J. Charles Jones, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after J. Charles Jones led an anti-segregation sit-in with hundreds of activists at a Woolworth counter in Charlotte, North Carolina, the store closed its counter to prevent further integration? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/J. Charles Jones. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, J. Charles Jones), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Project and category page movesEdit

I know you're on capitalization campaign, but it would be best not to carry it into project and category names unless you've succeeded in the RM discussion first. I reverted the Wikiproject rename, and suggest you undo the category changes, too. Dicklyon (talk) 05:48, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, I misread the history on the project page. It's the categories that you've been moving that should be fixed. You can call the project anything you want, I suppose, if you created it. Dicklyon (talk) 06:09, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: (edit conflict) I have reverted your change per WP:BRD as I created that WikiProject and you did not open an WP:RM. I swear to God if you try to rename a project I created and have put hours of work writing articles for... I will be finished with this site and you can sit around enjoying your god damn informal noun for a project you never created and aren't even a listed participant of. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 06:11, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
@Dicklyon: Can you explain to me why this is so extraordinarily important to you that you had to stress me out on a Sunday night? And why it's so important at all that you use an informal noun to refer to formal things? Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 06:16, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I edit at all strange hours – enjoy the rest of your weekend, and think about it tomorrow. Just doing my usual style gnoming thing. Dicklyon (talk) 06:29, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
@Dicklyon: You didn't answer my second question. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 21:40, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
@Dicklyon: You post on my talkpage below but still fail to answer my question... Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 04:11, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Fannie Lou HamerEdit

Updated DYK query.svgOn 27 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fannie Lou Hamer, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that African-American civil rights leader Fannie Lou Hamer (pictured) was brutally beaten on the orders of police in Mississippi for standing up against racial segregation? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fannie Lou Hamer. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fannie Lou Hamer), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

POINTY behaviorEdit

See WP:POINT re this move. Dicklyon (talk) 02:38, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: In what way does POINT relate to that move? Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 04:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
While your RM is losing on one article in the series you go and move another, knowing full well that these have been moved before and have been discussed at length, so your move can't be considered uncontroversial. You seem to be trying to make the point that long descriptive titles look silly. Point made, via disruptive move. Dicklyon (talk) 06:27, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
@Dicklyon: That was entirely not my intention. I was only thinking of what to call it other than its current name. I did not know of the "previous" discussions before making that move. I only knew that there had been discussions effecting the main Civil Rights Movement article. You still have failed to answer the question in the above section. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 06:31, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
You mean "why it's so important at all that you use an informal noun to refer to formal things"? I don't understand the question. What's an informal noun? What's a formal thing? Why do you think you know what's important to me? Dicklyon (talk) 06:35, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
1. This is what I'm referring to by "informal noun". 2. Your actions. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 07:26, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Revert warring over capitalizationEdit

Unless you and Dicklyon are both looking for enforced vacations, I recommend you both knock it off immediately. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:41, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

@Malik Shabazz: How am I "revert warring"? I'm undoing mass changes that were done without discussion. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 04:42, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
"How am I reverting? I'm undoing?" Are you for real? Shit, they'll give anybody the bit, won't they? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
@Malik Shabazz: I asked how I'm revert warring. I'd ask you to be kinder in your replies, but I'm not sure what to expect now. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 05:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
@Malik Shabazz: Also what does this have to do with "the bit"? I'm in the middle of a personal editorial dispute... not making administrative decisions. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 05:09, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
I could be doing peaceful content work, but instead have to deal with someone wikistalking my edits and fucking with projects and portals I've created (all over a ridiculous capitalization dispute). Jesus Christ, this site shouldn't be so difficult to work in. No wonder we're losing editors. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 06:12, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Coffee, your Wikiproject title doesn't show up in articles, so is not necessarily subject to our normal style guidelines, so I didn't mind much that you reverted back to the over-capitalized form there. But the Civil rights movement portal does show up in lots of articles, so really ought to respect MOS:CAPS. I was merely fixing it to do so after I saw it; it took a lot of moves (perhaps most of these titles I moved by hand were auto-generated from the Portal name? I don't know). We've settled the discussion on case in the Civil rights movement before, so your claim that this is undiscussed is not true; sorry you're just learning how this stuff works. Dicklyon (talk) 06:31, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: At what point did you take the time out to actually create or improve a portal on the Civil Rights Movement? Don't talk to me about how much time you took to make needless moves as a way to add credit to them. And clearly making people not want to write articles for the topic area anymore or put their time into the project at all is "how this stuff works", because that's all I've "learned" out of this experience. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 07:18, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Coffee, in the past couple of weeks you've done so much for the recorded history of the Civil Rights Movement that you should be proud and honored. Instead you've gotten grief and backbiting. That is the price to pay, apparently, for bringing your project forward. And as the folks in the movement learned to do, sing your way through it. "This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine". "Like a tree standing by the water, we shall not be moved". "I love everybody" (which is the title of the most important in-movement song while "We Shall Overcome" became the most important public song). Maybe an RfC on the portal itself in a little while? I would think the project would get to name and work up any portal they want to. I'm wondering why Dicklyon joined the project, I don't know his edit history or dedication to telling the correct encyclopedic story of the Civil Rights Movement, or his past contributions to the topic, but his talent is undeniable and if he wants to turn that talent and attention into grabbing an old article, or creating a new one, on Civil Rights Movement history, goddess bless him and let's welcome him with a hug and a beer. If his intent is otherwise, that's fine too, people would join the 1960s movement to intimidate or disrupt, and they were brought to Jesus (or some such deity) and learned about their lives and the power of movement just by being there. You've done a wonderful thing by creating the project, the portal, the new pages, the DYK, and the long list of edits that keep popping up on my watch list, in order to bring the world further information about a historical event in its long-march. Thank you. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much for those words of encouragement. It's exactly what I needed after dealing with this issue(s). Reminded me of how far Ms. Hamer was willing to go again. Face-smile.svg I just stubbed Murder of Harry and Harriette Moore. Have a few others I plan to start soon now too. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 13:44, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Of course, and you're welcome. Nice work, I knew nothing of Harry Moore or the murders, and will read up on him and his wife. Those early pioneers who stood up when almost everyone else was going along with the societal agreements are the ones who gave their all with little to show for it. I remember when I learned about Claudette Colvin, and was very surprised that she wasn't honored and reported on more (well, I guess my biggest surprise was meeting, then reading and hearing about Bevel, and it was "what? this guy is relatively unknown? and he accomplished what?!"), so will further check out the Moores and their history. A bit like hearing about Clara Luper very late in her life, another activist who should be reported on as a major pioneer of successful sit-ins who did her main work a few years before Greensboro and the largest and most successful sit-in, Nashville. Maybe because it occurred in Oklahoma City, not a hotbed of media and historical Civil Rights Movement focus. It's nice to be able to write about this stuff on Wikipedia, thanks for the space you've created with the project. Maybe the project can bring back editor Bruce Hartford, who is not very active the last few years. He stopped some of his editing when the article "Civil Rights Movement Veterans" was deleted (a thought, can you, as an admin, look at that page to see if it's draft-worthy? I never saw it and don't know what shape it's in, thanks). You've just inspired me to ask Dave Garrow to think about editing too, although he might be too busy. And maybe we should try to get Clayborne Carson to sign up as an editor - just brainstorming, although I just realized that your project has created a context to ask others to edit Wikipedia, even high school or university students and teachers studying movement history. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:54, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
There's a lot of fallacious insinuation in there. No one from the WP:AT/WP:MOS/WP:RM crowd has criticized Coffee's portal or article work. It's simply a matter of whether one particular portal is somehow magically exempt from our guidelines and our consensus decisions on page names. These apply to all reader-facing material, including portals, categories, templates transcluded into articles, text in citations, etc. The argument Kryn's advancing here amounts to "Given that you're a war hero, you should be immune to all traffic laws." Life doesn't work that way. And Coffee doesn't WP:OWN the portal anyway. If he wants to use lots of capital letters in userspace and on talk pages, he can have at it.

Anyway, I'll join the general chorus here in wishing Coffee a nice break and an eventual return. Aside from briefly returning to respond to a few things people directly e-mailed me about, I took an entire one-year wikibreak for experientially similar reasons, and it was very refreshing. When I eventually came back, I became more devoted to the project than before I left. [This reminds me of a really bad joke the punchline of which is "Abscess makes the fart go 'Honda!'"]  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  23:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Bruce HartfordEdit

I contacted Bruce Hartford at User talk:Brucehartford, and he asked if the project would like to write up and email him a letter it would be forwarded to other members of Civil Rights Movement Veterans and may reach people interested in joining the WikiProject. Please have a look at the conversation, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Please resend your email for me to forward to other Civil Rights Movement veterans inviting them to join the WikiProject? I somehow lost it. Please send it as an email to, it will be much easier for me to handle that way. Thanks. Brucehartford (talk) 18:49, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi there. For when you get back... Since you blocked this IP in the past, perhaps you'd like to take a look at their most recent edits. Pretty clearly WP:NOTHERE, in my view. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

One of my tps want to handle this? Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 21:13, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) It's a generic shared IP, very sporadic history, two edits in the last six months, no warnings for a year, no serious block log. I don't think any admin would block for any length (if at all) at AIV. Unless they repeat the event in the next day or so, this can wait until you get back, IMO. -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:44, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Oops, I seem to have edit-conflicted with the comment above; @Zzuuzz: I'm not sure if you intended to remove that comment or not, if you did then I apologize for restoring it. I see nothing constructive coming out of that IP in more than the last year, and it seems clear from their last edits before being blocked in February 2017 that the address is not dynamic, or it's been assigned to the same user for a very long time. Coffee, I am curious why you blocked them for 3 months but then unblocked right away? Not that it matters in my decision to block, I'm just curious. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:55, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
I believe it was due to the low edit-count, but I'm not entirely certain. Face-smile.svg Thank you for handling this matter! Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 22:00, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2018Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2018).


Administrator changes

added Lourdesdagger
removed AngelOfSadnessBhadaniChris 73CorenFridayMidomMike V
dagger Lourdes has requested that her admin rights be temporarily removed, pending her return from travel.

Guideline and policy news

  • The autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) is scheduled to end on 14 March 2018. The results of the research collected can be read on Meta Wiki.
  • Community ban discussions must now stay open for at least 24 hours prior to being closed.
  • A change to the administrator inactivity policy has been proposed. Under the proposal, if an administrator has not used their admin tools for a period of five years and is subsequently desysopped for inactivity, the administrator would have to file a new RfA in order to regain the tools.
  • A change to the banning policy has been proposed which would specify conditions under which a repeat sockmaster may be considered de facto banned, reducing the need to start a community ban discussion for these users.

Technical news

  • CheckUsers are now able to view private data such as IP addresses from the edit filter log, e.g. when the filter prevents a user from creating an account. Previously, this information was unavailable to CheckUsers because access to it could not be logged.
  • The edit filter has a new feature contains_all that edit filter managers may use to check if one or more strings are all contained in another given string.



  • Bhadani (Gangadhar Bhadani) passed away on 8 February 2018. Bhadani joined Wikipedia in March 2005 and became an administrator in September 2005. While he was active, Bhadani was regarded as one of the most prolific Wikipedians from India.

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Please comment on Talk:Joseph StalinEdit

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Bots Newsletter, March 2018Edit

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SNCC Shaw conference obsessingEdit

Should we tell this person to start a separate article, or just to go away? - GPRamirez5 (talk) 15:38, 3 March 2018 (UTC)


Miriam Makeba
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4 March 1932 – 9 November 2008

Thought of you, with thanks, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

What an a amazing woman, thank you for sharing on her birthdate. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 06:31, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


Hi Coffee. This is a courtesy note to let you know that I have closed a requested move/request for comment you initiated, which is now at Talk:Civil_rights_movement#Requested_move_18_February_2018. Regards, Fish+Karate 12:49, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Movement for Democratic Change – TsvangiraiEdit

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Your GA nomination of Ralph AbernathyEdit

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Ralph Abernathy you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Barkeep49 -- Barkeep49 (talk) 21:01, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

I have completed my initial review of the article. I see that you are currently away for an undefined period of time and will on March 22 move to putting the GA Review on hold. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:26, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

American politics discretionary sanctionsEdit


  1. 24 May 2017, 25 May 2017, and 21 June 2017 – Material is added to the lead section.
  2. 19 September 2017 – The material is moved out of the lead and into a separate section
  3. 21 September 2017 – The material is removed with an edit summary "Dropped WP:SYNTH. See incoming talk page comment."
  4. 11 March 2018 – The material is restored with fraudulent edit summary "Reverting unexplained content removal".

According to WP:DSLOG, the article was placed under 1RR/consensus required restriction on 18 December 2017. A talk page discussion shows that there was a unanimous support for removing the Manchester bombing material, at least. Was the last edit (­#4) made in violation of "consensus required" page restriction?

Separately, on 18 December 2017, you placed Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections under 1RR/consensus required restriction. Could you also add an appropriate talk page template to the talk page? Politrukki (talk) 13:55, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomEdit

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Michelle McNamara deletion and redirection reconsiderationEdit

Hi there! In the initial deletion review there was mention that Michelle McNamara had not done much substantial work herself, but was mostly talked about in relation to her famous husband. The page was marked a deletion and redirect to her husband's, Patton Oswalt. Since then her book, I'll be Gone in the Dark, was published. Thanks for considering. Mvocab (talk) 23:22, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Murder of Harry and Harriette MooreEdit

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Your GA nomination of Ralph AbernathyEdit

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DYK for And the Walls Came Tumbling DownEdit

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Precious anniversaryEdit

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Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:29, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Four years now, - miss you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Murder of Harry and Harriette MooreEdit

Updated DYK query.svgOn 2 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Murder of Harry and Harriette Moore, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Harry T. Moore and his wife Harriette were the first martyrs and only married couple to be assassinated (bombed house pictured) during the civil rights movement? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Harry and Harriette Moore. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Murder of Harry and Harriette Moore), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2018Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2018).


Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

  • Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
  • Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
  • The notability guideline for organizations and companies has been substantially rewritten following the closure of this request for comment. Among the changes, the guideline more clearly defines the sourcing requirements needed for organizations and companies to be considered notable.
  • The six-month autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) ended on 14 March 2018. The post-trial research report has been published. A request for comment is now underway to determine whether the restrictions from ACTRIAL should be implemented permanently.

Technical news


  • The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.


  • A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
  • The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.

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Abernathy thesisEdit

...and, you're back! At least for now. I'll find the date of the Abernathy thesis and add it back in (memories, I was the first researcher to reference the thesis, being given a copy by an acquaintance and then checking with Abernathy to make sure it was real, and later Garrow, who hadn't heard of it, asked me for a copy which he used, with Abernathy's permission, in his 1989 volumes. Haven't mentioned this discovery and publication circle in many moons.) There has been much commotion and a gallant and efficient defense by Mitchumch on the project page. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Randy Kryn: At least for the time being, I have a lot of real life things going on at the moment, but I wanted to get this GAR done. I plan to be back in the thick of the project in a couple weeks time. Many thanks to @Mitchumch: and yourself for holding the fort down while I'm busy elsewhere! As far as the thesis thing... I figured it was a legitimate claim, the only issue was that the lack of a source was one of the factors holding up the GAR... if you find a source don't hesitate to add it back in. - P.S. Good to see you! Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 16:19, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


In the ongoing discussion at Wings of Glory talk page he has been asked to remove his close and reopen the discussion. Wings is not an administrator and has made a huge decision on his own (Fish&Karate did not post on the page as a 'seconding' of the close, although his name was placed there). This is confusing at the moment, so maybe before taking it further it should both be sorted out and worded very well. A yikes type of decision. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:48, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

The decision was reversed on the project's name, which is back to upper-case. Hopefully the portal decision will also have review and reversal at some point in the process. Congrats on the Abernathy GA. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:47, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ralph AbernathyEdit

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Please comment on Talk:Doug Ford Jr.Edit

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11 years of editing, today.Edit

Balloons-aj.svg Hey, Coffee. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day!
Chris Troutman (talk) 06:27, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
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Joining the choir to sing praises. My initials stand for Good articles, and it's lovely to see them coming! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@Chris troutman and Gerda Arendt: Thank you so much guys! That means a lot! <3 Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 07:13, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Many congrats Coffee. Ah 2007 those were simpler times weren't they. Just kidding. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 07:15, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
It was lovely. Miss you already. Take your time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:57, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Portal_talk:Civil_Rights_MovementEdit

Hi Coffee. Could you please explain your rationale for deleting the portal (noting that you said prior to deleting it (deleted diff here) that you "requested" deletion - you didn't "request" anything, you used your admin tools to delete it yourself). Deleting the entire portal because you didn't like the outcome of a requested name discussion, rather than going through the correct process, could be very easily construed to be a (mis)use of your administrative access to gain the upper hand in a content dispute, particularly where there are strong aromas of WP:OWN, and quite a lot of incivility and waving your admin status around like a great big willy to belittle another editor who does not have your administrator acccess ([1], [2], [3] ). I would like to politely suggest you consider reversing that deletion; I don't have any interest in escalating that to another venue but I'm sure someone may, and for the most part you seem like a very good administrator. I appreciate you have a tag at the top of your talk page saying you'll be away from Wikipedia for some time, but given you've made 92 edits in the past 3 days I imagine you are available to respond. Thanks, Fish+Karate 08:53, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@Fish and karate: Coffee actually did restore the page after deleting it, as you'll see here: [4]. It was then subsequently speedy deleted by another admin following a G7 request. I've requested it to be restored at WP:REFUND. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 09:14, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
@Fish and karate: Fastily deleted the portal before I caught my mistake in not undeleting the talk page (the original deletion was an error as I forgot Twinkle likes to automatically action whatever reasoning you click if you don't click "tag page only" first). I will undelete the talk page gladly, but the portal has been deleted per policy by an administrator who happens to not be me. And it will remain so per G7. If you want to recreate the portal yourself since you clearly have the biggest willy here, feel free to do so. Otherwise keep your patronizing ass commentary off my talk-page until you have something better to show for than "it looks like ownership when you use G7 exactly how policy states you are allowed to". I'm sure you're a great administrator too though, for the most part. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 09:16, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK reviewEdit

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Ralph Abernathy at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! This is just regarding a QPQ; or not. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap shit room 12:31, 6 April 2018 (UTC)


Bummer. Just when things were taking off on the WikiProject, after some obstruction and logs-in-the-road. But wikibreaks are good, and I hope that after not being here becomes as habit-forming as being here, at some point you'll be looking up something on Wikipedia, see an easily correctable but major mistake, and grab your tool belt again. Good luck, and only the best wishes for someone I've only met in the past couple of months but have found to be full of caring and integrity towards the correct depiction of history that Wikipedians accept responsibility for. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I second that. Best of luck Coffee. Mitchumch (talk) 16:55, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Coffee, I haven't followed whatever drama has driven you off but I wish you the best in your real life. ~Awilley (talk) 21:33, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Best wishes on your retirementEdit

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For your years of tireless service. Ad Orientem (talk) 16:41, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to see you leave and I hope you will be back after you have taken some time off. I know the place can get stressful. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:41, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

We lose more and more of the old guard every month. Some just from tiring of the grind that is wikipedia, and some because the goalposts have moved with how the encyclopedia was being built and how administration handled things in days past. Little appreciation with the hours put in when compared to new editors who run roughshod with no scruples at all, and seemingly little care from higher-ups in how to deal with them. And it's the articles that also suffer because of this. These newer editors that survive will someday be older editors, who will be shocked that they aren't listened to by a newer and even more changed group of peers (and not for the better). A very tough environment to wade through today. I hope you make it back Coffee. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:31, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorry to see you go. "Don't take everything so personally" is my advice to you. I hope will you reconsider your retirement and do return to the project.– Gilliam (talk) 09:41, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Your blockEdit

Boldly closing this as it is not benefitting anyone. Those calling for de-sysop know where to go. Those dredging up old grievances also know where to go.- MrX 🖋 19:07, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I have removed your block. I do not know the circumstances behind your decision to leave or block yourself, but all blocks must have a policy reason for the block. I'm sorry you felt the need to leave, and I hope you eventually come back once feelings have cooled down. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:02, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

WP:SELFBLOCK is permitted on the blocking policy page. ~Awilley (talk) 21:26, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
That's my understanding as well, although I do hope Coffee decides to come back.- MrX 🖋 21:33, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
He did block himself, and I unblocked him as there as no valid policy reason for the block to be indefinite. If he doesn't want to come back, he doesn't have to, but having an indefinite block with no solid policy reason for it is ridiculous. Also, WP:SELFBLOCK states that "Typically, such requests are declined." The block is in the log now, so there's no reason for it to continue. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:16, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
I wish you well, Coffee...we all need a break from the drudgery once in a while. I remain confident that you will survive the storm ☈ that hovers overhead, and will return to WP refreshed and ready to go. In the interim, you will be missed. Atsme📞📧 23:51, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Nihonjoe, You should have simply let it be. His self-block wasn't hurting you or the encyclopedia. From where I stand, it looks like rubbing salt in a wound.- MrX 🖋 00:18, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
@MrX: Well, we obviously disagree. Coffee blocked himself in a moment of anger, with no rational or valid reason for doing so. His blocking comment makes that perfectly clear. Unblocking him doesn't "rub salt" in any wound any more than leaving the block in place assuages it. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:29, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Anyone getting a bit of déjà vu here ? .... Didn't all this happen in February ? ..., This'll happen every month unless someone goes to Arbcom and puts a stop to it. –Davey2010Talk 00:34, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
No, this seems a different set of circumstances. Coffee came back and spent many hours organizing the WikiProject:Civil Rights Movement and the portal. He spent his editing time there, within that project, by creating and improving articles and bringing them up to "good" status. During most of this, and more recently with RM's, an editor or two have tried to put obstacles in the way of the energy and enthusiasm Coffee put into this work. That could be draining, and although Coffee says he needs a break from Wikipedia maybe he just needs to be left in peace for a few weeks or months to regain the interest to further his work here. Arbcom? I'm new to the Coffee saga, but this editor apparently has ruffled some feathers here and there. His leaving wasn't about that. He was trying to do something very good, and succeeding, and then had enough of the counter-effort for awhile. Hopefully he is climbing a tree somewhere, or skipping rocks in a river. It's spring, and there is a lot to experience off site, and he, after giving many years of service here, may feel like taking in a wider range of "more" for awhile. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:58, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorry I have to respectfully disagree - Someone disagrees with what he does or says, He doesn't like that - He gets in a temper/upset- He leaves for a month - He comes back supposedly as this reformed character - Someone disagrees with what he does or says - and then it all starts over again, It happened in February, I believe it happened in January and December and guess what - It's happening now,
Unrelated question but who climbs trees ? ...... Maybe he's had enough of being a human and wants to be an orangutan who knows. –Davey2010Talk 01:17, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
You don't climb trees? What kind of great ape are you? Coffee is volatile, so what, he gets things done. The climbing trees thing is a way of saying that enjoying nature is one way to take a wikibreak. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:22, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
A lazy one apparently Face-grin.svg, Actually I attempted to climb one when I was a child ..... but then wimped out .... and then watched my friend being stuck in said tree and having to jump from quite a height .... See not climbing trees is a good thing :), –Davey2010Talk 02:31, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
  • I'll play bad cop. There's clearly a pattern of conduct un-becoming of an admin here. If Coffee returns (and I hope he does), he should seriously consider resigning as an administrator before ARBCOM becomes involved. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:04, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I emphatically second that, including the hope he'll return, but only if he resigns adminship. Coffee clearly has much to contribute – witness his work on civil rights topics – but there's something about admin work that makes him lose his cool. He'd be happier, and could better serve the encyclopedia, if he just gives that up and doesn't look back. EEng 04:00, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I'd prefer him resigning but that won't happen hence my Arbcom comment. –Davey2010Talk 04:04, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Thirded. This retirement smacks of avoiding the near-inevitable desysopping that his misuse of admin tools and hysterical behaviour was going to incur. I would suggest desysopping him anyway - either a) he’s never coming back (doubt it), in which case the account does not need administrative privileges, or b) he does come back, in which case the account should not have administrative privileges, as his behaviour amply demonstrates. I try and stay away from this sort of nonsense but I am baffled how someone with such a short fuse, ownership issues, and disregard for others got to become, and then to remain, an admin. One post politely querying an action and I got a wholly undeserved tirade. Fish+Karate 05:47, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I've asked at WP:BN whether Coffee's actions/statements here can be considered a voluntary resignation. power~enwiki (π, ν) 13:23, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I rarely comment on drama-infused incidents but I can't help but notice this has happened more than once. That's not what bothers me in this case, though. The fact that both the block log and the retirement tagging summaries are practically personal attacks is completely unbecoming of an administrator. If he decides to come back again, I sincerely hope he is able to improve his ability to keep his cool under pressure and/or do a confirmation RfA/recall. It's disappointing that such a once-enthusiastic editor has retired because I think they still care about the project and can contribute constructively in many areas, just not in an administrative sense. Anarchyte (work | talk) 13:26, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
If Coffee decides to return we can continue this discussion. Until that time we should probably allow him to rest in peace. ~Awilley (talk) 16:41, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Awilley - Whilst I can understand adminship is stressful at the best of times if he cannot hack it then he shouldn't be one (This is not a one off but instead a growing pattern).... He returned a whole 10 HOURS later to re-indef himself ..... To me that alone speaks volumes, Without commenting on his private life and all that I feel him not being an admin would IMHO do him the world of good, Whether its Arbcom, BN, or himself-resignation IMHO something should be done even if it's a temporary thing, But I agree on your last part we should all give him some space for a bit. –Davey2010Talk 17:57, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Wish you back. O1lI0 (talk) 06:08, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

This all seems a beautiful exercise in Anarchy from every angle from everyone involved. If this new ban is just simply not good enough a reason for a ban then unban him but reban indefinitely him for abusing his admin tools until such time as he addresses the matter with the arbitration committee.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 17:08, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

SMirC-puke.svg I think people have talked enough; I wish they'd stop. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:21, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2018Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018).


Administrator changes

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removed ChochopkCoffeeGryffindorJimpKnowledge SeekerLankiveilPeridonRjd0060

Guideline and policy news

  • The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
  • A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.

Technical news

  • AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new equals_to_any function can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash.
  • When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
  • The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
  • There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.



  • Lankiveil (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.

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Someday (I hope)Edit

I'd have emailed this, but you have email disabled. If you ever want to come back, feel free to email me at SQLQuery me! 04:44, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ralph AbernathyEdit

Updated DYK query.svgOn 4 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ralph Abernathy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ralph Abernathy (pictured), mentor and friend of Martin Luther King Jr., led a demonstration protesting the use of federal funds for the Apollo 11 project when many Americans lived in poverty? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ralph Abernathy. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ralph Abernathy), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2018Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2018).


Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in June. This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.
  • The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team will build granular types of blocks in 2018 (e.g. a block from uploading or editing specific pages, categories, or namespaces, as opposed to a full-site block). Feedback on the concept may be left at the talk page.
  • There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups.
  • It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked.


  • A recent technical issue with the Arbitration Committee's spam filter inadvertently caused all messages sent to the committee through Wikipedia (i.e. Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee) to be discarded. If you attempted to send an email to the Arbitration Committee via Wikipedia between May 16 and May 31, your message was not received and you are encouraged to resend it. Messages sent outside of these dates or directly to the Arbitration Committee email address were not affected by this issue.


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Lebanon ECP AE reviewEdit

Hi Coffee, I know you're not active, but I'm posting this here since I've asked that the community review Lebanon at AN [5]. This doesn't have anything to do with your particular actions, but is because a recent AE determined that Jordan as a whole didn't fall in the restriction. I hope all is well with you in real life. TBallioni (talk) 18:28, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Added to Missing WikipediansEdit

Wikipedia:Missing_Wikipedians#C You are missed! Λυδαcιτγ 08:05, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!Edit

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg This seemed appropriate and the least I can do for you. I tend to come and go, but I've always immensely enjoyed working with you and wanted to thank you for your work.

There are countless editors and even more readers who will never know the years of tireless service and effort you put into making this a better place. For that, thank you. I (selfishly) hope you come back, but regardless of where you go or decide to do, wish you nothing but the best. Mifter (talk) 03:10, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


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Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

Miss you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:12, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Black and wellEdit

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Unita Blackwell

Thank you for the article! Miss you. - I wanted to nominate for the Main page, but someone beat me to it. I hope that she will receive the attention she deserves. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

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