Question on bases, and other thingsEdit

I was just watching the Colbert Report when I realized that the update of the template might create an interesting issue. Previously, we have either slapped the pages with the airport and structure templates, and then called it a day. Sometimes there would be disagreement about what should be there, but no one was harmed. Now, we have the ability to slap one tag on the page, which is fine for installations that own the runways, but what do you think we should do for Air Guard bases and other installations which are co-located at the installation, but do not operate the installations outright? Should we create a guideline that explains this, because I see no reason why Mansfield Lahm Air National Guard Base should have runway information, while that information is already located on the airport civilian page, and thus would be redundant. @Bwmoll3:, you might also might want to chime in here. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:50, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't see any problem replicating the airfield information on the Air National Guard base page. However if it's deemed redundant, a hatnote that simply states see: ABCD International Airport for airfield information works for me. Bwmoll3 (talk) 05:36, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I agree with Bwmoll3 however I think we need an extra opinion do you know any one who majorly edit U.S. Air Guard bases or military installations? Gavbadger (talk) 10:28, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Brent does most of it, although a lot of people do snippets here and there. I used to be one of those people in the early days, but now I'm focused on splitting off pages from civilian articles (although I did expand Loring AFB in 2012 to pretty good standards). I suppose we could bring this to MILHIST and see what they want to do. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:20, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

5 Regiment Army Air CorpsEdit

Sorry about that, didn't realize it was a redirect. Hamish59 (talk) 22:24, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

No need to apologize. the "thank" button is significant for me. Gavbadger (talk) 22:27, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Question from FoxschEdit

Gavbadger Hi. I am hoping that this is the correct method of dropping you a line to pose some puzzlers but I cannot be certain, being such a newcomer to the editor versions of wikipedia. My question(s): I have been adding suggested amendments to talk pages of articles. Recently checking back through the (silent) responses, I realised that portal and project pages also have a form of article watchlists. An example: I have added a suggestion to a talk page. I am reticent to adjust the article, as I have suggested on the talk page, a/ because I am not sure that directly editing a page is advisable without confirmation from a third-party that the edit is acceptable, and b/ I now realise that project/portal articles talks, discussions can also feature on relevant portal/project pages, in this example . Should I edit the appropriate portal/project 'announcement and tasks' areas to highlight the discussions I have raised on talk pages to attract confirmations of accurate edits and further discussion, or is it advisable to go ahead with the edit and watch out for further discussion? Many thanks in advance Foxsch (talk) 18:24, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Foxsch, if you wish to update the article you may if have a reliable reference to go with it, those sort of the articles which were used by the Americans during the Second World War overseas were mainly created by an editor who created them with the American related info and never touched them again. If you wish to start to a discussion about a individual article the best course of action would be to create a section on the article talk page, leave it for 1-2 days and if no answers take it to the relevant Wikipedia project like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history since the WikiProject talk pages are regularly edited and it would be considerately more viewed. Gavbadger (talk) 18:51, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

That's perfectly clear Gavbadger, thank you. Foxsch (talk) 19:07, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Ensign in Tidworth Camp articleEdit

Hi - I have toned down the ensign in the infobox in the Tidworth Camp article that I am working on. I note that according to Template talk:Infobox military installation the ensign is "optional" not mandatory. There are few things on wiki where it is mandatory to include it (other than references!). I just think it is a bit garish - just an opinion. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 00:19, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Ok, but don't touch any of the Royal Air Force articles with a RAF ensign at the top of the infobox without going to the aviation or military history project talk page and discussing the change otherwise I will just revert you. Gavbadger (talk) 00:49, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks - much appreciated. My own view is that the RAF ensigns and navy ensigns look fine - they are not quite so garish as the army red. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:18, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

contributions?Edit

My father-in-law was stationed at Danby Beacon and elsewhere supporting radar (particularly GEE) during wwII. He might have persona pictures of staff personnel that you'd want for your collection. If so, please drop me an email and tell me how we can send info to you... or I can send you his email address if you want to email directly.

Thanks... jrsnyder@pobox.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.151.140.191 (talk) 20:13, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for the late reply. The easiest way would be you to upload them yourself to [[1]] where a large amount of images are sourced from for Wikipedia then tell me or someone else or you could add the pictures into Wikipedia. Gavbadger (talk) 22:49, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

RAF ChelvestonEdit

Apologies for the edit with the |controlledby =. I'm new at this and saw that controlled by being used at other 8th air force bases, and just thought it looked a lot better inside the box as the others were. Actually, those graphics at the top of the infobox seem to be a bit of a clutter, and would look better inside as well somewhere. Just a thought Connor P. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Connor7617 (talkcontribs) 20:54, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, we do limit the number of files in the top of the infobox to four but most of the time it's only three which are well spaced, I've also added a belated welcome message to your talk page since it appears you've never had one it gives some good info on various bits and bobs. Gavbadger (talk) 20:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I was an editor here like 10 years ago but went off to do other things. I just dabble a bit here.. don't do a lot of heavy editing. Just like to use wikipedia for looking things up and dabble here in some things that I enjoy. I found that the Imperial War Museum released a massive amount of material on the American World War II presence in the UK recently; was going though the materiel and was going though to boost up the existing articles here. I don't want to step on anyone's toes, so I just add photos that are useful and catalog them in commons. Although I do make some occasional edits.
Question: it looks like you're an admin. Is it OK if I go back and standardize the infoboxes? Some are ariports. some are military installations. some are structures. Is there a standard template? Also some of the aireal photos are quite low in contrast. The IWM collection has some really nice and clear ones taken by the RAF and USAAF during the war that would look much better. Chevelston is one I replaced for example.
Again, ty for the welcome :) Connor7617 (talk) 21:05, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm not an admin, I just helped build the new military structure template, the new template is called Template:Infobox military installation a good example is at RAF Alconbury. Gavbadger (talk) 21:21, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

BassingbournEdit

You're welcome and ty :) Connor7617 (talk) 23:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Apply for Autopatrolled Rights?Edit

Hello, just wanted to say that you have been doing a great job creating articles related to the RAF, but you might want to apply for Autopatrolled rights so you don't spam the new pages feed. Thanks! Winner 42 Talk to me! 22:22, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

No it's ok thanks, I was only filling in the gaps for the British Naval Air Squadron template and I can't see myself doing anything similar for many years. Gavbadger (talk) 22:31, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

167 CateringEdit

Hello, on behalf of 167 Catering Support Regitment RLC we would be greatful if you could delete this page, as it no longer valid.

Thank you.

Hello, instead of deleting the article, it would be much better to update it and add a history section. Gavbadger (talk) 10:57, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Season's GreetingsEdit

To You and Yours!

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We have lots of new friendsEdit

BBC

Good Day,

Thank you for your message. I have an issue with the attribution of the message which begins We have lots of new friends on the Falklands conflict page.

I worked for Cable and Wireless as an Engineer at the time and was the one who typed the message. It's always been wrong on Wiki. I am trying to put it right more for my children than anything.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6514011.stm

mentions this is this a suitable citation.

Grateful for any help or assistance you can give.

Kind regards

Charles KeenleysideCharlesk1953 (talk) 19:50, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the delay, I've been working on Royal Air Force aircraft ferrying units making multiple edits on a single article so I didn't notice the message alert.
The BBC news article doesn't have any relevant times or anything more than "The newsroom had Argentine claims, but nothing else apart from a laconic message from the Cable and Wireless station on the Falklands - "we have a lot of new friends"." which doesn't help much.
I have found this though [2], the website isn't reliable but it does say "this text is taken from Marshall Cavendish’s comprehensive compendium, ‘The Falklands War’" so I'm looking through bookshop websites to see if they have any online sneak peeks to see if any books have your name but I'm not having much luck, Amazon are normally really good but not this time unfortunately.
Gavbadger (talk) 20:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Friendly talk page stalker, I wouldn't rely on The Falklands War: A Day By Day Account From Invasion To Victory by Marshall Cavendish. Following the war Marshall Cavendish produced a 14 part, get it weekly compendium, describing the war day by day. To be frank, its crap, really shoddy journalism and full of mistakes. The content of the article didn't match the source, so it has been copy edited to reflect the source. I have tried a few sources eg the Official History by Lawrence Freedman but no luck so far. WCMemail 21:22, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
WCM, I had look through about 12 different books on Amazon using the book preview and couldn't find anything. Although the only preview they showed most of the time was just the history of the falklands going back hundreds of years and the same general maps of the falklands. Gavbadger (talk) 21:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
I've got quite a few books, I'll try and spend some time tomorrow and see if I can dig something up. WCMemail 21:48, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Autopatrolled rightEdit

Just so you know (if you have not already been pinged), I nominated you for the Autopatrol user right here. I figure you might have some use for it, since you have created so many pages, and military articles are not controversial for the most part. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 07:33, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Autopatrolled grantedEdit

Hi Gavbadger, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! MusikAnimal talk 21:36, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Op GranbyEdit

I think I used these sites

http://www.orbat.info/history/historical/uk/gulforbat1990.html

http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/BritishForcesinvolvedinOperationGranby.cfm

http://es.rice.edu/projects/Poli378/Gulf/gwtxt_ch8.html

you can add the links.Phd8511 (talk) 12:49, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Gavbadger (talk) 15:44, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Barnbow munitions factory pageEdit

I'm not sure if you'are the person to pass this on to but the above page claims that "Barnbow was Britain's top shell factory between 1914 and 1918, and by the end of the war on 11 November 1918, a total of 566,000 tons of ammunition had been shipped overseas." Chilwell filling factory's memorial quotes over 1 million tons filled so maybe a small edit is in order.

        Mark Wilson  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.242.223 (talk) 08:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC) 

No 1 Radio SchoolEdit

Gavbadger,

I appreciate that you have taken an interest in the school and your concern is noted.

The changes I have made are legitimate. I am updating the page to reflect the current situation at the school, in a more official capacity.

I am at present, updating the page on behalf of the schools Officer Commanding, so will be making more changes in the not so distant future. The information that will be placed on the page will be relevant, and will not be harmful in any respect.

Again, thanks for your concern.

gbinfi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbinfi (talkcontribs) 13:25, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello
Wikipedia does not allow any original research (see Wikipedia:No original research) so you will need reliable independent references for all information you add (see Wikipedia:Verifiability).
Good Luck
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RNAS Lee - On -SolentEdit

Surely this name is out of date and we should update it to the new name and update info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.147.21 (talk) 16:14, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Agree, see Talk:RNAS Lee-on-Solent (HMS Daedalus). Gavbadger (talk) 16:41, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

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Got a queryEdit

You do RAF units, and appear to keep current with AFM. Can you winkle out anywhere an up-to-date unit list for 38 Group? Buckshot06 (talk) 19:17, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Afraid not sorry, the IP editor for the article appears to have some sort of personal connection though. Gavbadger (talk) 19:48, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Strike that, the IP has provided a current list of units, and this site has a better description of the group than the RAF at present!! Buckshot06 (talk) 20:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Russian Naval AviationEdit

Thanks for all your hard work on the AVMF. Unfortunately AFM is not reliable in this area - a better source can be seen in the extensive pages of Michael Holm, drawing on many Russian sources [3] and Sources. I've made amendments to the 100 and 279 OKIAP listings in line with that information. Tally Ho!! Buckshot06 (talk) 20:54, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

According to AFM, 100 OKIAP is a brand new two squadron regiment established on 1 December 2015 at Yeisk. How recent is the information in your links? Gavbadger (talk) 21:17, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
It looks in the sources the latest is 2013 also according to the sources link you provided it seems the person uses forums as references. Has they been a discussion on how reliable this website is? Gavbadger (talk) 21:54, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Would you kindly please e-mail me through the emailthisuser function, Gavbadger, please? Buckshot06 (talk) 22:16, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm not happy to disclose my personal email address by using that function. What is the subject of the matter you wish to talk to me about? Gavbadger (talk) 22:23, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
It's always possible to create another e-mail address to handle such issues. I would like to talk about the reliability of the sources. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:48, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
If it's about the reliability of a source surely the matter should be discussed openly on the appropriate project talk page and not hidden away, however if the emailthisuser function has to be used about anything to do with the Russians then I'd rather have nothing to do with it. Gavbadger (talk) 08:14, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
OK. I have the highest confidence in the sites and methods used by Michael Holm. It's not about hiding the discussion away, it's about preserving my anonymity by not disclosing my credentials in this matter. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:00, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

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Merge of No. 8 Flight AAC / No. 658 Squadron AACEdit

Hi, I was wondering why you merged 8 Flight ACC into 658 Squadron AAC. These are two different AAC units. 658 Squadron AAC has its own history . I would have kept the 8 Flight article stating that it had been disbanded/re-designated as 658 Sqn. 658 Sqn was re-raised after it had been disbanded on 1 April 2009 when it was then part of the 7 Regiment AAC (Volunteers). The 658 Squadron AAC article history section should only be on the 658 in the AAC. At present it has the history of No. 8 Independent Reconnaissance Flight AAC and 8 Flight AAC and also has a section for history of the 658 Sqn ACC. Regards, --Melbguy05 (talk) 20:15, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

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Classic British Jets CollectionEdit

Hi gavbadger, thank you for your welcome, I’m alittle confused at your message re conflict of interest, my edits have only been to provide users an accurate picture of what the current status is at Bruntingthorpe/Cold war Jets Collection and particularly the Classic British Jets Collection which is one of several aviation preservation groups based a Bruntingthorpe. My only interest is proving users better info and hopefully encourage them to visit Bruntingthorpe and support the aircraft/volunteers based there preserving the aircraft for the future.

Kind regards Mark Classic British Jets Collection (talk) 14:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Mark, the message was just really a welcome and information on a Wikipedia policy that you can't have a single username which different people from your group can use, so if your username was something like "Mark at Classic British Jets Collection", "Jay at Classic British Jets Collection" or "Jay at CBJC" it would be fine. Wikipedia just wants a single person to operate a single account. I've just had a quick look at your sandbox and noticed you haven't add any references yet and you would need to do so if you decide to the publish the page on Wikipedia, Wikipedia:Citing sources may be of help. I've personally visited the site a few years back: toured the Guppy and met the horse. Gavbadger (talk) 14:37, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

1989 Portuguese Army order of battleEdit

Just checking with you if 1989 Portuguese Army order of battle is also a copyright violation? Look at the reference.

Thanks

Sammartinlai (talk) 04:46, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure, you better check with User:Buckshot06 before you continue. Gavbadger (talk) 18:47, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks.Sammartinlai (talk) 02:11, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Your view on List of British Army Regiments (1800)Edit

Is it acceptable or shoud it go for an AfD?

Asking sinc hyou deal more with army historical stuff.

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WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME re Iraqi Air Force squadronsEdit

I've got hold of another gold-standard source which you will see I've referenced at No. 3 Squadron IqAF and List of Iraqi Air Force aircraft squadrons. Both several books by Tom Cooper, and this Israeli intelligence analyst Malovany make clear that Iraqi squadrons were designated by ordinals (3rd) rather than cardinals (No. 3) in line with Commonwealth practice. In line with WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME I believe we should reflect that, and thus I am going to move them to '3rd Squadron' rather than 'No. 3 Squadron'. Since you were the original creator though and put some hard work into creating the articles in the first place, I thought I would drop a courtesy note to you. Hope that's all clear. Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 09:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up, completely understand and agree. Gavbadger (talk) 22:38, 31 January 2019 (UTC)


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Move of Combat Aviation Brigade, 10th Mountain DivisionEdit

Given that Combat Aviation Brigade, 10th Mountain Division is a GA, and that the naming has been dicussed on its talk page, albiet with no clear consensus and some time ago, and there there was no move proposal that I can see, i am not going nto delete 10th Combat Aviation Brigade, and do a move. Please start a move discussion, I would think on Talk:Combat Aviation Brigade, 10th Mountain Division. If there is consensus for a move, or at least afte a week or moe no opposition, then you might try again. Until then G6 speedy delete declined. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:49, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

The same applies to Combat Aviation Brigade, 101st Airborne Division another undiscussed move. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:52, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, i didn't notice the rating and the naming discussion. Apologies. Gavbadger (talk) 23:14, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Original Barnstar
Many thanks for your work on 378th Air Expeditionary Wing. I hope my recreation of the redirect didn't get in your way too much. Merry Christmas!! Buckshot06 (talk) 10:52, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Vietnam War base referencing againEdit

After making this comment: [4] which you decided to delete, I would have thought I had made myself clear on the referencing point, so why have you made these changes: [5] to Tan Son Nhut Air Base which do not follow the citation style? I have reverted your changes, if you add them back in follow the existing citation style. Mztourist (talk) 03:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I get to decide what stays on my talk page, Not You!
The edits i made to the Tan Son Nhut page were made between 22 and 26th November 2019, over 3 months ago, so i didnt ignore your comment. Gavbadger (talk) 10:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020Edit

 
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020Edit

 
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List of Royal Air Force Radio & Signals unitsEdit

There are many references to Lake 1999 in there, but you didn't give the full citation. Would you mind adding it? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:36, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:SMALLCATEdit

Please do not set up new categories when there is little likelihood of entries being under 5. This is specifically discouraged by WP:SMALLCAT. Probably a better idea would be Category:Units of the Royal Air Force Regiment for all Regiment units. Buckshot06 (talk) 23:44, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Signals units of the Royal Air ForceEdit

Please, in accordance with the category guidelines, set your categories up in the format "XX [Unit Type] of [Organisation]" which accords with the standard category guidelines. What you've done may have not been in the knowledge that Category:Signals units of the Royal Air Force already existed, set up in 2018. You appear to have created a duplicate category and moved everything into it. Buckshot06 (talk) 02:08, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Surprise!Edit

You surprised the heck out of me! I had just pulled up the Newark Air Museum article and was going to edit it when I noticed the aircraft list immediately changed to column format. Since it hadn't been before I clicked edit, I thought there was some problem with the way it was rendering for about 30 seconds before I realized you had somehow managed to publish your edit in the minute or two between when I loaded the page and hit edit! What are the odds? Anyway, nothing else special, just felt like sharing. –Noha307 (talk) 21:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh, sorry about that. I hope it didn't take long to get the edit conflict sorted. I was looking at something to do with the WW2 Polish bomber units and Winthorpe popped up and couldn't remember the name. So i had a quick read. I've always knew the place by Newark. Gavbadger (talk) 21:20, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
No worries! Although I had clicked edit, I hadn't actually changed anything yet, so it was no big deal.
I went through and updated/added to the list of aircraft, by the way. In the process, I merged in the BAPC section you created back in 2016 since it didn't seem to make much sense separately. If that's a problem, I apologize. –Noha307 (talk) 00:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

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