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December 2016

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed maintenance templates from Tomas Gorny. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Lemongirl942 (talk) 20:34, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Paseo Mochis, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Lemongirl942 (talk) 20:36, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

User:Lemongirl942, I'd recommend that you carefully read Wikipedia:Tag bombing. You've failed to explain why you believe the subject isn't notable (despite the abundance of sources in the article). The essay I cited offers a guideline to post your concerns to the talk page of the article and/or improve the article yourself. Slapping a tag on an article is akin to putting a bandage on an open wound: it doesn't really help. Eliko007 (talk) 21:49, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

It also seems that you might have potential COI concerns with respect to both of these articles. I'd recommend that you read the Wikipedia guidelines that discuss disclosure. Eliko007 (talk) 21:52, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Are you a new editor? If you have had any previous accounts please declare them. It is very obvious that you have a conflict of interest. That article has attracted SPAs for quite a while. The last AFD closed with a "no consensus" that the subject was notable - hence the tag. If you feel the subject is notable, make your point on the talk page and get consensus for removing the tag. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 02:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Tomas Gorny. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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January 2017

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Tomas Gorny. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Your posting on the Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Christianity/Noticeboard page is WP:canvassing. Such postings are required to be neutral and non-partisan in tone. Phrases such as "urgent" and putting a red triangle along side are hardly neutral. Your excuse that "Xenophrenic notified the atheism project" does not justify this, indeed Xenophrenic's edit is calm and neutral (requesting "Informed pro & con input based on Wikipedia policy and reliable sources"). I would suggest you consider this a friendly warning about your editing style, the alternative is to raise the issue at WP:ANI as per WP:CAN which causes all sorts of unpleasantness all round. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 23:51, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Maybe something more along the lines of:

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Discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_19#Category:Persecution_by_atheists

There is a discussion on the above page concerning the category "Persecution by atheists". user:Xenophrenic is requesting its deletion even though he has added Category:Persecution by Christians to some articles. He has already emptied the category of historical examples of persecution by atheists. Eliko007 (talk) 23:21, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

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There is no need for the urgency, the matter is being discussed at length on Categories for discussion. Urgent would be continuing vandalism or similar matters requiring an immediate response. All IMHO of course, but generally WP prefers discussion and consensus over shouting and warfare! You'll also find that discussions like this ramble on for ages, if someone takes precipitous action it is likely to be reverted. Best wishes for your future editing, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:29, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello Eliko007 and Martin of Sheffield. Just a few points of clarification:

• (1) Xenophrenic is just a co-nominator, along with Marcocapelle, who actually opened the discussion. And there are several other editors in that discussion who are also requesting the deletion of the category. My intent was to simply discuss renaming the category with its creator, Jobas, before initiating a much more time consuming CfD, but Marcocapelle opened it, so I joined in. Asking for more participation is fine (encouraged, in fact), but additionally painting it as a solo effort by Xenophrenic doesn't seem appropriate, in my opinion.
• (2) Xenophrenic has not "added Category:Persecution by Christians to some articles". Persecution by Christians was added to that article by Mateoski06, with whom Jobas has been edit-warring over that category for some time. The category did get re-inserted into the article as part of larger rollback or revert edits I made, but I didn't add it to the article. Painting the situation inaccurately as an effort by Xenophrenic to remove one category while adding another catetgory, doesn't seem appropriate, in my opinion.
• (3) Xenophrenic absolutely did not "empty the category of historical examples of persecution by atheists". The inappropriate category was removed from articles by many editors (not just by me - [1], [2], etc.), and I only removed it (or renamed it in many cases) from articles where it was completely unsupported by cited sources as required. And you are actually going to put "examples of persecution by atheists" in a canvass request, as if that is actually a thing? That is a conclusion argued by some of the participants in the discussion, and as such, is completely inappropriate to include in a neutral canvass notice.

In short: Please do request additional participation in the discussion, but leave editors (i.e.; Xenophrenic) out of it. Regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 16:22, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks User:Jobas. My userpage now has a showroom for this! Eliko007 (talk) 20:50, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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What kind of tea do you serve User:Rosiestep? Sorry for getting back to you late. As I say though, "better late than never". Eliko007 (talk) 20:49, 14 February 2017 (UTC) :)

Hi Eliko. Thanks for circling back with me. We don't actually serve tea at the "virtual" Teahouse; we help newer editors with questions/answers on how to contribute to Wikipedia. That said, if I were at a real teahouse, I'd order a cup of blue eyes/hibiscus. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 21:22, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove the maintenance templates from Wikipedia articles without resolving the problem that the template refers to, as you did at Tomas Gorny. Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:12, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Do it! He only exists here to smack-talk about other people.

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Christian persecution complex

No admin is going to speedily delete that article, certainly not with that rationale (who is being disparaged?), and also certainly not when it's under discussion at AfD. Drmies (talk) 17:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

December 2018

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Christian persecution complex; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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• It is not forbidden to edit articles when they're at AfD, but edit warring over content when the sourcing is indeed from reliable sources is frowned upon. Have some faith in the process: if the article is kept, you'll have all the time in the world to fight over this or that passage. Drmies (talk) 17:21, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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Christianity and Druze

You cited Nisan 2002 in that article, but the full ref is missing. Could you add it? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Headbomb:, Sure.Eliko007 (talk) 17:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

So.... ? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Headbomb:, done. I apology for being late.Eliko007 (talk) 19:15, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

No worries, what's important is that it got done in the end! Thanks for fixing it. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

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Season's greetings

I am looking for proactive expansion and update support/input help the following (So far neglected but important topic) articles, if possible. Even if you feel focus area bit different still contribution of few line may help bring in some different perspective and also help Wikipedia goal of neutrality. If you can't spare time but if you know any good references you can note those on talk pages.

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Growth of religion

Hello, Eliko007,

So you don't end up in an edit war with The good man 232 and possible get a block, please make use of the article talk page to discuss your differences with this editor. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:24, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, while cleaning the backlog of Category:Pages with broken reference names, I noticed two edits on 28 May on the article Cultural Muslim, where a named reference was added but not the reference itself. They're respecively &diff=next&oldid=959301527 (ref name=history) and &diff=next&oldid=959311665 (ref name=:1). Do you remember where you got these? Then we can add them, replacing the "citation needed" tag I put. The relevant bits of text are:

Surveys conducted 1994 and 1996 observed a decrease in religiosity based on lowering mosque participation, less frequent prayer, dropping importance attached to a religious education, etc.{{r|history|page=242}} This decrease in religiosity was more visible in younger Muslims; however, other more recent studies show that while participation in religious activities among young Muslims is reducing, they are more likely to identify with Islam culturally.{{r|history|page=243}} A 2009 survey found that the majority of Muslims in Belgium supported "separation between religion and state." A 2010 study found that while Muslims put great emphasis on religious freedom and the overwhelming majority stated people should be free to leave Islam if they wanted, they were less comfortable with the idea of Muslims marrying non-Muslims.{{r|history|page=244}}

A 2004 study found that the importance of Islam in the lives of [[Dutch Muslims]], particularly of second-generation immigrants was decreasing. This observation was based on the reducing participation of younger Muslims in Islamic rituals, organizations, and prayer. The study also predicted that the trend would continue with increasing education and "individualization". However, the study also found that second-generation immigrants attached more importance to religion that the first generation as an "individual experience." The study concluded "the expression of religiosity by Muslim youth was not much different to that of their Dutch Christian or Jewish peers".{{r|:1|page1=178}}

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I did not give any convincing argument !!!! The person who wants to delete the edit must give an argument as to why he wants to delete. The good man 232 (talk) 17:10, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

It's has a modest impact on Christians growth, but it's the largest net loses. The good man 232 (talk) 17:31, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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The accusation

My edits are biased!!! I am trying to make the articles on Wikipedia more neutral after you have turned these articles into Christian Evangelism pages, for example, you converted the article The Decline of Christianity into the Growth of Christianity. Also, Elizium23 alerted you about your biased edits [4]. And don't think that I don't know that you have another account by name "Christ worshiper". --The good man 232 (talk) 12:29, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

"Druze conversion to Christianity" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Druze conversion to Christianity. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 27#Druze conversion to Christianity until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)