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Your ArbCom statement

I noticed that you said in your ArbCom statement that you don't remember having edited GMO-related pages. Actually, about two years ago, you and I were both very actively editing March Against Monsanto. Perhaps you might want to correct what you said at ArbCom. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:58, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Ah that is true, thank you. Coretheapple (talk) 00:12, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

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Messes

I meant infoboxes more generally. My take is roughly this (take it cum grano salis, I'm somewhat partisan on the "anti-"side): infoboxes are unambiguously appropriate for a lot of articles (chemicals, taxonomic entities, battleships, etc.) As you trail off into certain subject areas (biography, literature, music), there's a fuzzy area where they become less and less suitable; the key characteristics you want to highlight in one person are not necessarily the ones you want to highlight in another. There's one faction of technically-minded editors that have been trying to push infoboxes into as many articles as possible, including (in my—biased—opinion) deliberately trying to push them in controversial places to set a precedent. The other faction has mostly been pushing back to keep infoboxes out of opera and composer articles, but in the past few years, that's spilled over into other biographies like the one you edited. Naturally, as with any feud of that standing, it's become personal for many participants. IMO, the best thing to do would be to let WikiProjects curate their own guidelines on infoboxes and insist that anyone requesting exceptions for an article or group of articles argue on grounds specific to that article, but good luck policing that. Choess (talk) 00:53, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks much for clarifying and yes, I agree about Wikprojects. Coretheapple (talk) 15:18, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

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Oh thanks. I need to get involved in this as much as I need to genetically modify the molecules in my brain. Coretheapple (talk) 22:39, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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Scope of case

Hi, @Coretheapple: just a quick note to reiterate what the drafting arb(s) have indicated, most recently this: [1]. I believe behavioral patterns are germane since the scope of GMOs intersects with certain medical articles, BLPs, insecticides, noticeboards discussing same, and the patterned behaviors of involved editors, editors who made statements, and a few peripheral editors who have demonstrated tag-team behavior to support the involved editors. I was added as an involved editor even though I don't edit GMOs (made 2 comments in an RfC for GMF, and a total of 6 edits at Atrazine). Diffs used against me are also not GMO related and focus on behavior. My involvement is primarily related to past interactions with Jytdog and again, focus on behavior; therefore, my evidence correlates key events that demonstrate behavioral patterns of tag-teaming, disruption, WP:OWN, etc. In a nutshell, behavioral patterns appear to be the nexus when determining scope, especially to demonstrate consistent disruption by the same players throughout WP, including topics in the periphery of GMOs such as BLPs, insecticides, noticeboards and RfCs and the like. Atsme^📞📧 15:58, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

I hesitate because my interactions with Jytdog were totally unrelated to GMOs, but rather were almost entirely in BP and related talk pages. Also one or twice on Jimbo's talk page. But not related to health science at all, which seems to be the scope of the arbitration. Coretheapple (talk) 16:03, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Understood. If you haven't read it already, take a peek at [2]. Also keep in mind that ArbCom decides whether the evidence is relevant and worth considering. Guy's explanation to me was, the relevance is that I believe the original dispute is the context of your fight with with Jydog. As I said to DrChrissy above, I think you have issues, but I think your argument with Jytdog has ended up with you being added as a party when that argument is not in fact about GMOs. It's all rather confusing because I don't consider defending myself against Jytdog as my fight with him because it's actually my defense against his fight with me that's at issue. Anyway, the bottomline is that ArbCom decided to not remove anyone that was subsequently added to the list of involved which tells me they are probably considering extraneous behavioral patterns; therefore, my evidence will either broaden the scope of this case or it will be dismissed. What I do know is that if the evidence isn't presented, it can't be considered. I also greatly appreciate the fact that ArbCom requires supporting evidence which eliminates all those easily made damnations that we've had to defend. Either way, you're behind the wheel. Atsme^📞📧 16:31, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

No one from arbcom responded to that very specific and highly relevant question. My first reaction is "screw 'em." I'm not a mind reader. Coretheapple (talk) 16:38, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Uh oh...now you're getting into Fringe/PS but at least you admit you can't read minds. Whew! I was sweating having to use telepathy to summon the Amazing Randi to debunk such a claim. Atsme^📞📧 18:18, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Mickey Rooney

My apologies for writing to you via this channel. I have very limited skills regarding editing a page etc, so I tend to make my input via the talk pages and then the people who really know what they are doing can act or ignore me. Regarding your message to me on MR, my apologies. My comment was intended for user: SOFTLAVENDER, who introduced the rather specious Daily Mail argument.46.7.85.68 (talk) 13:08, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh I understand. No problem. I'm just suggesting that Softlavender made that comment a long time ago and probably is not following the discussion. Coretheapple (talk) 13:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, do you know where the log of nonconstructive edits for STiki users is? I have STiki and I can't find it anywhere. Thanks, --Rubbish computer 17:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh Lord I have no idea. Curious why you asked me. I'm not a STiki designer or anything like that, just a customer like you. Coretheapple (talk) 17:17, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, but I thought you picked edits out of a big list when you used it. Am I wrong? --Rubbish computer 17:59, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

No, you click a button and the next edit comes up. There is no choice involved. If it's OK, you click "innocent" and another edit comes up. You might want to sign up for it, a very useful tool. Coretheapple (talk) 18:09, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I've unzipped the file. Where is it? --Rubbish computer 18:10, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

I assume it's the executable "jar" file. Coretheapple (talk) 19:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

But keep in mind that you may need to get permission to use STiki, which you can get on the talk page for Stiki. Keep in mind too that I'm just an ordinary user, not the best source for all of this, and I'm still perplexed that you're approaching me of all people. Coretheapple (talk) 19:55, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thanks anyway. --Rubbish computer 17:48, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

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