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5th Army (Germany)

Boleyn, with regard to the 5th Army (Germany). A question from a newby. I am trying to get my head around WP:DDAB and WP:INCOMPDAB It seems to me that 5th Army (Wehrmacht) is more specific / less ambiguous than 5th Army (Germany) hence the disambiguation page. As Fifth Army is less specific, I do not understand your changes. Can you explain where I am getting this wrong, please? Hamish59 (talk) 21:43, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Hamish. I'm sorry, I should have contacted you directly. It is a confusing area. Basically, a disambiguation page shouldn't have a disambiguator in it, i.e. something in brackets, such as (Germany). That makes it a sub-disambiguation page, and these can cause a lot of confusion. One I saw had been created where there was e.g. a John Fowler dab, John Fowler (American football) dab, John Fowler (sports) dab, John Fowler (born 1980) dab. If a new entry needs to be added to several dabs, it means that there's a fair chance someone will end up at a page without all the information. Usually in a case like 5th Army (Germany), if the info was already duplicated at 5th Army, I'd redirect to 5th Army#Germany, and create a Germany section. This would mean it would stand out clearly to anyone who typed it in. In this case, I didn't because I wasn't sure about mucking up the alphabetical order, and also it's a very short page, so it wouldn't take someone a second to look through all entries and find the right one. On second thoughts, I think it'd be useful. Glad to hear from a newbie - there's loads of stuff to do on here, so your contribution's really appreciated. Let me know if you have any further questions. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 08:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough, Boleyn, I bow to your superior experience. You may wish to look at 1st Army (Germany) ... 8th Army (Germany) as well. Hamish59 (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The redirects will be useful additions, Boleyn (talk) 22:12, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Greatest Hits (Fleetwood Mac album)

Hi,

Can you please explain the rationale behind the "incomplete disambiguation" tag applied to this page? I assume this step is intended to precede its conversion back to a straight redirect to Greatest Hits (disambiguation) (as was the case before).

The incomplete disambiguation paragraph linked to states it applies "when a more specific title is still ambiguous, but not enough so to call for double disambiguation". I'd question this- I understand the desire to avoid a glut of messy, overlapping and duplicated disambiguation content.

However, I'd say anyone searching for "Greatest Hits (Fleetwood Mac album)" or "Fleetwood Mac Greatest Hits" (which redirects to the more standard form) would be better served by *not* having to pointlessly search through a long list of Greatest Hits albums by unrelated artists, when almost none of which would be relevant to their clearly specific need.

Would be interested to hear your thoughts. All the best, Ubcule (talk) 16:38, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Ubcule. I don't think this is an easy one. I think a redirect to List of Greatest Hits albums#F would probably be the best option; there would then only be about 6 entries, so the information wouldn't get lost among a really large list. Incomplete dabs do cause a lot of duplication and confusion, but I didn't propose anything as yet, because I wanted a chance for people to think it over carefully. What do you think of this more specific redirect? Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 16:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I personally don't consider having the separate Fleetwood Mac page to be a major problem. :) Is the List of Greatest Hits albums complete? It strikes me that if it was, then it would be a lot bigger than it is, and hence the F list would still be quite long. Ubcule (talk) 20:16, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I suppose that is a point, a Greatest Hits list can never be complete. I'll copy this across to the Talk page of the article, if you don't object, and see whether people think this is a valid exception to the usual rule. Boleyn (talk) 19:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure that this case counts as an "exception" to the rules as written, but feel free to go ahead with that. All the best, Ubcule (talk) 15:19, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Are you also amused?

[1]
--Jerzy•t 09:11, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

) Hope you're well, Jerzy, Boleyn (talk) 19:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

   Well enuf, friend, tnx.
--Jerzy•t 20:00, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks, now solved. Boleyn (talk) 19:20, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Perth, Western Australia (disambiguation)

Apologies if I've missed something but where have you argued the case for a merge or explained the incomplete dab tag? It might be obvious to you, but simply dropping a template on the page is not going to get a result. I see the page as helpful for readers. Moondyne (talk) 14:31, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, it's sorted now. Please think over my comments at Talk:Perth, and then add your opinion. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:19, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Barnaart

Hi Boleyn,

I noticed this edit. I dont seem to be able to comment on it elsewhere, and I dont understand the purpose of the template, so I'll just reply here. Jacobus Barnaart didn't have any mention in Wikipedia at all some weeks ago - it is an occupation and area in time which we have currently badly covered for the Netherlands in English Wikipedia. For what I can find, he was quite a wealthy merchant, manufacturer and baptist in Haarlem, and seems to have enough relevance that way. Even if there are currently yet no links made to him on Wikipedia, and there is limited online material available. effeietsanders 22:23, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks for your message. You could have commented at Talk:Jacobus Barnaart, or here's fine. I marked it for further looking at for a couple of reasons. Firstly, is one of these clearly more notable than the other (although both may well be notable)? If one is clearly more notable, then per WP:TWODABS, a hatnote would be a better option than a disambiguation page. My second, and main, point, was that a disambiguation page is an index of Wikipedia articles, and notability doesn't really come into it. Entries preferably have an article of their own, or meet MOS:DABRL or MOS:DABMENTION. This is an unusual one. He meets those guidelines (just), but the information is in the article on the other of this name - and therefore for both, the only useful place to send a user is to the son's article. Possible solutions to this are deleting the dab and putting the son at the primary page, seeing if he meets MOS:DABMENTION in other articles where he isn't redlinked, and redlink him, or someone may create an article on the father. You're right that English Wikipedia lacks a lot of articles, and that's why I didn't redirect the page to the only useful article - I was hoping someone else would be able to arrange a better solution. What do you think? Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 18:39, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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Thomas Briggs‎

I'm quite prepared to believe that I have things back-to-front, but couldn't you have just moved Thomas Briggs‎ (disambiguation) back to Thomas Briggs‎ over the redirect? Oh, and it would have been nice to see a note to the effect that you were correcting a mistake of mine. Cusop Dingle (talk) 19:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Cusop. As far as I'm aware, you need to be an admin to change that, I'm not able to do it (as far as I know). I didn't know if I was correcting anyone's mistake or not, and I don't tend to contact people to say I'm proposing an uncontroversial move - I don't think it's in the guidelines, although I may be wrong, but certainly I'd get little done if I contacted everyone who'd been involved on a page to say I was proposing (and not making) a small change. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 21:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)If a redirect has not been edited since it was created (even by the bot which rushes round classifying what type of redirect it is), then you can move the target article back to the redirect just by using the Move tab. If the redirect has any edit history other than just being created, then you can't and you have to use the {{db-move}} approach or, if controversial, the WP:RM. At least, that's my understanding of it. (Alternatively: try using the Move tab, and if it doesn't work then use a Plan B!) Hope that helps. PamD 22:28, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

That was my understanding too. BTW, I did not say that Boleyn needed to contact me to agree the request for deletion, but that I would have appreciated a message to say that it was happening, and why. Cusop Dingle (talk) 07:28, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Re: Richard Potter

Hello. I just thought I'd let you know that this page, which you created, has had a lot of edits made to it and has been tagged for improvement. I thought I'd let you know in case you objected, or if you could help with the cleanup. Thanks for creating the page, it's clearly needed. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 21:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for your message, I hope that this finds you well! In background, about two weeks ago I was trying to write an article on Richard Potter (businessman), who was a chairman of the Great Western Railway. So far, two weeks and almost 12 new articles later, I am at best only half way there. Presently writing articles on short-lived newspapers and researching radical 18th century politics! Amazing where this project leads you. Good Luck! Best Regards, --Trident13 (talk) 21:14, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

1. Numbered list item

Thanks, and well done for creating all those articles! Boleyn (talk) 19:21, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Short disambiguations

You appear to be using my contribution list as a resource to find short disambiguations that you can improve. Let me start by stressing that I have absolutely no problem with you doing that. I just wanted to point out to you where *I* am getting the disambigs to which I'm adding the Long Comment template. My source might be a more efficient source for you than my contribution list. Specifically, I'm getting my pages from one of the tools-server Short Pages reports. [2] They are updated approx once an hour, and the vast majority of the pages on the list are short disambiguations. My own work on short pages, and thus short disambigs, comes and goes in spurts. The SP reports, though, always show a large number of pages that can use at least a look-over. - TexasAndroid (talk) 19:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Texas, I seem to have been noticing your name a lot lately, as well. However, no, I haven't been using your contribution list, I've just been monitoring [Changes related to "Category:Disambiguation pages"] a bit more closely than usual. Thanks for the link, I may well look that over. Best wishes and thanks for all your hard work, Boleyn (talk) 19:20, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

william bevan

of course! i'm just so used to kneejerk reverts at this point that i twitched, so to speak, at the wrong moment. perfectly valid addition to the dab page, and please accept my apologies. william bevan should have been a dab much sooner, really. Kaini (talk) 23:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

No problem at all, I just wanted to make sure you didn't waste your time investigating it too much. Thanks again, Boleyn (talk) 06:28, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Abdullah Khan

Hello
I notice you made a number of edits tidying up this dab page a couple of days ago. My apologies, I have had to delete them, as I have reverted back to 7th February. Up until then this was an article page, which was blanked and re-written without explanation (thusly). I've put an explanation on the talk page (here) and invited comment. Sorry once again, Swanny18 (talk) 23:03, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I've made those edits again to Abdullah Khan (disambiguation) now, so they haven't been lost. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:41, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of "William Coventre I"

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Thank you. waywardhorizons (talk) 21:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

You tagged this for speedy deletion less than one minute after it was created. If I was new to creating articles, I'd feel really harassed and put off by this. The article already stated that he was an MP, so importance was already asserted. Please thinktwice before being so trigger-happy in future. Boleyn (talk) 21:54, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

My apologies. I posted a response on the article's talk asking the admins to disregard it. Sorry if I pissed you off. -waywardhorizons (talk) 22:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate that. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 22:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Have removed the speedy template: I don't know why Waywardhorizons didn't do so themself, unless they've just never read the wording of the template they're so ready to dump onto an article! PamD 22:12, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Pam, and sorry this wasted your time. I'll be more careful to add an 'inuse' tag straightaway in future, so it's less likely to happen. Boleyn (talk) 22:14, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of William Elderton (ballad writer) for deletion

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I'm glad you quickly retracted this. I can't see that any reason was ever given for nomination, but as person has DNB entry, this is considered proof of notability. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 18:08, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of David Zuckerman (disambiguation)

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I've removed this. There are three entries there, all with articles or meeting MOS:DABRL and MOS:DABMENTION. Boleyn (talk) 18:26, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

The main issue

Hey Boleyn new to meet you too. I have a few questions on the Rosa Llunch Bramon and its problem. First is the citing problem, I have a few reference and one of the reference has more references to it. Whats your best advice on what I should do since I'm new. Second for the notability issue, She is has won awards and other things I'm just taking a break from her page before researching for it. Wont she also apply to the Notability standards since she is part of Wiki Project Woman in Red for the "Notable Female Historians without a link in Wiki" and has several articles and pages written about her and her occupation. Thanks for helping the pages and its issues and respond to me ASAP. --PrimaLInnstinct (talk) 20:13, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

PrimaLInnstinct, thanks for your message and welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for taking the time to create an article. The references would be clearer is they were inline (see WP:INLINECITE) - at the moment it's unclear where each bit of information comes from. From what you have written, she sounds notable, she just needs referenced info on her awards, and any other way she meets WP:PROF or WP:GNG. It can sometimes take a while for a new article to get all that added though. Thanks again, Boleyn (talk) 21:47, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Boleyn, thanks for your edit on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glozhene,_Vratsa_Province. What is the easiest way to communicate with you?--Ivsson (talk) 14:30, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Either here or on your page is fine Ivsson. Well done on improving the page. Boleyn (talk) 16:11, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Boleyn, I left you a message on Ivsson (talk) as well. Lets continue there... I'll try to find some more sources.

Have a good one, --Ivsson (talk) 16:17, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

@Boleyn Hey, Boleyn. Can you, please help me out with this one: Rumen Surdzhiyski? I think I've messed the template. --Ivsson (talk) 04:24, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Cecily Bulstrode and Cecily Boulstred

Hello, someone wrote another article about "Mistress Bulstrode" in 2016, which is Cecily Boulstred, it's longer than the one you started, and uses a less commonly found form of her family name. I don't know how to fix this, and thought you might, if you were exercised enough about it. Trust this finds you well.Unoquha (talk) 20:00, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, I have changed the name throughout the article now.Unoquha (talk) 21:26, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your previous work!

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	Thanks for helping out with the Mistagged unreferenced articles cleanup (thought I left you a barnstar before but I didn't). There has been a revive in the cleanup progress if you're interested :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:54, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

2002/03 and 2013-14 Iraqi League

Hi Boleyn. I would like to ask if you could help with an issue we're facing now in the Iraqi Premier League topic.

Basically there are contradicting sources about the league winners in 2002/03 and 2013/14. The sources are very shaky to say the least and I think an admin should have an look at it.

https://ahdaaf.me/2019/07/16/iraqs-post-truth-wikipedia-league-champions-how-four-titles-became-six/?cbg_tz=-120

The Wiki editor won't be convinced by what I say and won't change his opinion. Could you please help?

Steel Dogg (talk) 11:50, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Boleyn, I'm the Wiki editor Steel Dogg is referring to. I know Steel Dogg has good intentions but I feel that he is ignoring primary sources from reliable and reputable organisations or websites. Everything on the 2002–03 Iraqi First Division and 2013–14 Iraqi Premier League pages are well-referenced with primary sources. Why should we ignore a plethora of reliable primary sources just because of an opinion piece or lower quality secondary sources that's not how Wikipedia supposed to work. Hashim-afc (talk) 01:44, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Steel Dogg and Hashim-afc. It's a shame that's this dispute has arisen, when you both are clearly trying to make the article the best it can be. I'm not an admin, but I suggest contacting the most relevant Wikiprojects and seeing if someone who is familiar with these sources can help. Thank you both for your hard work, Boleyn (talk) 18:54, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Boleyn, it's already solved. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football

They suggested to revert the changes back. No titles won + disputes noted.

Thanks for your help anyway!

Steel Dogg (talk) 21:19, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear it's sorted, Steel Dogg. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:44, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Carl Davies

Hello, Boleyn,

I deleted this page because you placed a tag indicating that the page was holding up a page move but you didn't state what page you wanted to move. I just wanted to let you know that the page had been deleted so you can go ahead with the move. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:39, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Liz. Boleyn (talk) 19:44, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

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User:DilletantiAnonymous

Hello there! I share your frustration over the user in question and their creation of unrefernced painting articles and lack of communication. It is completely unnacceptable. Is there any action that can be taken? I noticed you had filed a case on the Administrator’s noticeboard/Incidents. Would you mind directing me to the exact case? Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 21:35, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Willbb234, it was here: [3]. Unfortunately it just died out, as sometimes happens if the editor in question just disappears for a few days and there aren't many people commenting. It's definitely worth you looking at raising it at WP:ANI again - I've been messaging this user for years with no changes. Thanks for your help, Boleyn (talk) 06:43, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Alright, thank you. I will take a look later and see what I can do. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 06:55, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

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Deletion discussion about Bo Johnson

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Thanks, Jbhunley. I only created it as a redirect to a different target, but appreciate you letting me know and I will look it over. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not notice the author of the article did a copy-paste-move from Draft: to the page you created so you got the auto-template instead of them. Cheers! Jbh ^Talk 19:36, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Not at all, I was still somewhat involved and interested. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 19:48, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Jorge Jiménez

Please do not introduce inappropriate pages, such as Jorge Jiménez, to Wikipedia. Doing so is considered to be vandalism and is prohibited. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Under section G3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, the page has been nominated for deletion. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:13, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Apologies. The page you had created was hijacked for a hoax. I have reverted. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:18, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

British Order of Battle of New Orleans

Hey replying to your notice, what exactly is the issue? Tirronan (talk) 14:19, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Tirronan, it lacked references, but this has been resolved by another editor. Thanks for taking the time to create it, Boleyn (talk) 19:45, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

"House of Desmond" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect House of Desmond. Since you had some involvement with the House of Desmond redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  12:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Elliott Wright for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Elliott Wright is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elliott Wright until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Jamesbuc (talk) 10:18, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Nicole Bass (television personality) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nicole Bass (television personality) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicole Bass (television personality) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Jamesbuc (talk) 10:19, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Zahida Allen for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Zahida Allen is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zahida Allen until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Jamesbuc (talk) 10:41, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

undo Savely Moiseevich Feinberg page

Dear Boleyn thanks for your efforts and care about the page Savely Moiseevich Feinberg, by moving it to drafts. I add some references to boost the reliability of this page. How can I move this page to normal one? Best regards

Done Y Boleyn (talk) 18:25, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

China White Paper

Thanks for assessing China White Paper as stub, no footnotes. There's been a lot more work since then. Could you re-assess? Cheers! ch (talk) 23:28, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for all your hard work on this, it's no longer tagged for anything and I approved it to be indexed by Google. Boleyn (talk) 10:38, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Onward and upward! Keep up the good work... ch (talk) 21:51, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello Boleyn,

Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.

Paid editing

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion

• Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
• Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.

Not English

• A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.

Tools

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.

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You might be interested

as to meta:User_talk:Fram#2019_report_to_T&S:LouisAlain. Best, ∯WBG^converse 05:58, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Sorry mate

Hey, Boleyn. My name used to be I-CANT-THINK-OF-USERNAME!, if by any chance you can remember. Back in 2017, I created a lot of unnotable and unreferenced articles, which always had to be fixed by you. You warned me a bunch of times on my talk page, but I didn't even know ideas talk pages existed. Just saying sorry for being a pain... :/ Melofors (talk) 21:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Meofors, don't worry, I once went through a spate of creating unreferenced articles years ago despite being asked to stop - we all change our editing as time goes on. Welcome back! Boleyn (talk) 05:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

William Jephson (died 1698)

Hello, this article has the hallmarks of being automatically created (e.g., with a script) that has malfunctioned - e.g., strangely incomplete fields and incorrectly formatted links (in this version). So, just drawing it to your attention in case there's something you need to fix. I've made a couple of minor edits but it hasn't resolved all the problems - thanks. QuiteUnusual (talk) 13:14, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll have a look. Boleyn (talk) 19:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

"Ralph Phillips (Looney Tunes)" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Ralph Phillips (Looney Tunes). Since you had some involvement with the Ralph Phillips (Looney Tunes) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. PC78 (talk) 04:56, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

User needing thoughts about

Hi there. Can I direct you to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive978#User:Алексей Густов. The user continues to create poorly referenced BLPs. Also, the user's responses haven't been the best.

If someone decides that I'm doing series of ancient "World Junior Curling..." so badly - ok, I'll stop it right now and someone (if he/she want) can do it without my stupid brain. I have so many work in my Russian Wiki about curling, but I decided to help english-spoken people... I'm sorry for my (as I can see for today) exactly no needed and stupid helpings. Do it at your own hands, guys.

and

Hi there. I think nothing about "start class" (or any "class") for articles. I create article "as first version" and talk page for it - and anyone who want (and who "know how" - it's not me) can decide what "class" this article has. Excuse for my "not mother tongue" English (I'm Russian from "West-West Siberia"

so why are they reviewing the article if they know nothing about reviewing ("I think nothing about "start class"")? It also looks like Earl Andrew is sticking up for the user. Any response would be appreciated. Thanks, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:22, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Willbb234. I think the responses and references aren't great, but meet the basic criteria. I'll keep an eye on it. It's always hard when someone is translating from another language to know whether to take it the same as you would if it was someone whose first language is English. Thanks for keeping an eye on this. Boleyn (talk) 19:07, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Template:Taggednote-NPF

H Boleyn, Greetings. I have been trying to add the template above on NPP "message box" when tagging/review article, but cant figure out how do it right - variable (3)-intended message does not show correctly. Would be appreciate if you could share some light on this. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:26, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Helo, Cassiopeia, I hope you're well. I'm afraid the tech side isn't my strong area - Kudpung or Winged Blades might be better able to help. Boleyn (talk) 19:10, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Can you please review

can you please review my page Draft:Nanna Prakara please please and move the page to article pleaseShreyashv26 (talk) 17:04, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Boleyn....I submitted an article on Dr Albrecht Preusser which you placed in draft. What changes would you like for that article so that it may be published? with thanks FZS001 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FZS001 (talk • contribs) 09:13, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, FZS001. The main problem was that it was unreferenced, I'm pleased to see you've addressed this. I'm no expert in this field so will leave it for the AfC reviewer to see if they have final suggestions. Well done on your hard work, Boleyn (talk) 05:53, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Boleyn, FZS001 informed me, that he has set up a page about myself, and that it is under review. I checked, and improved it a little bit. I hope that will help in the AfC process.Schnupperuser (talk) 13:44, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Addendum: Corrected a lot of false link locations as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnupperuser (talk • contribs) 15:26, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:8th-century Iraqi people

A tag has been placed on Category:8th-century Iraqi people requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:41, 1 October 2019 (UTC)