Talk:Mike Burns (cricketer)

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 20:14, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Comments

• "started his career with Cumberland" and "started his cricket career with Cumberland" in quick time in the lead.

• Rephrased the first to "..he appeared for Cumberland.." Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• "could bowl medium-pace" two different wikilinks without unlinked text between them can often be confusing, any chance of a reword?

• Not at the moment; any suggestions? Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• "who bowled at a medium pace"? The Rambling Man (talk) 16:08, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• Well, that's simple! Have modified slightly. Harrias ^talk 21:16, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• Link "all-rounder" in the lead.

• Done. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• Also consider appropriate links for "average" in the lead for his batting and bowling averages.

• Done. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• Opening sentence probably needs to include that he's now a reserve umpire.

• Done. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• Add (ECB) after the first use of the expanded version so the next time you use the abbreviation it's clear to all.

• Done. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• "Early life and minor counties cricket" section, you have "Burns... " twice and "he..." eight times. Perhaps mix it up a little bit more.

• I've tweaked this a little, but I suspect it needs a little more? Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• Not sure if you've had GAs done before, but one thing I'd suggest (and I'm not GA expert) is to use the glossary of cricket terms for things we both take for granted, like runs, stumping, etc...

• Most were already linked on their first use, but I added a link to Run (cricket) and Century (cricket), plus a couple of others. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• "who was the club's professional player" don't think you need "who was"

• Done. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• "He had more first team.." -> "Burns had..."

• Done. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• "His chances came particularly..." last bloke you mentioned was Piper...

• Changed. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• "Wisden Cricketers Almanack" missing an apostrophe.

• Done. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• You link bowling average in the Move to Somerset section. So just a general note, link these terms wherever possible, and always first time round.
• "Minor Counties" or "minor counties"?

• Changed all to lower-case, which seems more appropriate. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• Ref 14, apostrophe in the wrong place. Check others...

• D'oh! Done. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for your comments and pointers. I've addressed most above; any further comments, as always, would be appreciated. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

GA criteria

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   Comments above apply here, nothing serious, but would make it a quality article (imho).

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Minor comments, so placing the article on hold pending their resolution. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 8 May 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) 何をしましたか？那晚安啦。 13:24, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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Mike Burns (cricketer) → Mike Burns (English cricketer) – The short form Mike Burns (cricketer) is incomplete disambiguation and should redirect to the Michael Burns#Other sportsmen disambiguation page which also lists Michael Burns (New Zealand cricketer). The two entries should be analogous — either Mike Burns (cricketer) / Michael Burns (cricketer) or the more-specific forms Mike Burns (English cricketer) / Michael Burns (New Zealand cricketer), which would then require the short form Michael Burns (cricketer) to likewise become a redirect to the Michael Burns#Other sportsmen dab. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:34, 8 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. -- EN-Jungwon 11:11, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:28, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose per Joseph2302. Sorry, I mis-read the initial request from last week. Apologies. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:19, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose the English cricketer is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, as he's an international umpire, and had a vastly longer career than the NZ cricketer. Tis is demonstrated by pageviews too. Also, only the English cricketer seems to be known as "Mike" anyway. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:25, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Per Joseph2302. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:54, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
• Support per WP:INCDAB. The dismabiguator is a navigational tool and it usually isn't helpful for us to determine a primary topic for the title that only exists as a Wikipedia construct. Dekimasuよ! 04:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

• He's the only cricketer actually known as Mike Burns, and there's already been past consensus to do this when one cricketer is way more notable than the other(s) of the same name e.g. Steve Smith (cricketer). Making it more difficult for people to find what they're looking for is illogical. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:14, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.