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DNA section biasedEdit

The text in the DNA analyis is misleading

"Despite this, tests comparing the genetic profiles of northern Han, southern Han and southern natives determined that haplogroups O1b-M110, O2a1-M88 and O3d-M7, which are prevalent in southern natives, were only observed in some southern Hans (4% on average), but not in northern Hans. "

This would imply the paternal contribution of southern natives is only 4% when this is far from the truth. Y-DNA O1 (all subclades) is very common in (and perhaps more associated with) Dai populations. It is also very common in southern Chinese. Y-DNA O-P201 is very common in southern natives and is very common in Guangdong. There are many subclades of Y-DNA O1, O2 and O3 shared by both Dai and Han alike. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]


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The number of speakers derived from statistics or estimates (2019) and were rounded:[1][2][3]

Number People Subgroups Main Area Population
1 Cantonese people Taishanese people, Hongkongers, Macau people, Macanese people Guangdong, Guangxi, Hainan, Hong Kong, Macau 120,000,000
2 Hakka people Ngái people Guangdong, Fujian, Jiangxi, Guangxi, Sichuan, Hunan 120,000,000
3 Min people Fuzhou people, Hoklo people, Hoklo Taiwanese, Putian people, Teochew people Fujian, Hainan, Southern Zhejiang, Guangdong 115,000,000
4 Shandong people Shandong Province 100,000,000
5 Sichuanese people Sichuan Province, Chongqing Municipality 100,000,000
6 Wu people Shanghainese people, Ningbonese people, Wenzhou people Zhejiang, Jiangsu, Shanghai, Anhui, Jiangxi, Fujian 90,000,000
7 Hebei people Hebei Province 75,000,000
8 Jianghuai people Subei people Jiangsu Province, Anhui Province 75,000,000
9 Gan people Jiangxi, Eastern Hunan 60,000,000
10 Hunanese people Hunan, Northeastern Guangxi 40,000,000
11 Taiwanese people Taiwan, Southeast Asia 25,000,000
12 Tanka people Fuzhou Tanka Guangdong, Guangxi, Fujian, Hainan 5,000,000
13 Hainan people Hainan, Southeast Asia 5,000,000
14 Chuanqing people Guizhou 700,000
15 Gaoshan people Yunnan, Guizhou 400,000
16 Waxiang people Hunan 400,000
17 Tunbao people Guizhou, Anshun 300,000
18 Hui'an people Quanzhou, Fujian, China 50,000


Were some people in Vietnam considered Han due to Han ancestry?

Also is Pham Tu (476-547) considered what? His father was Jie ethnic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:E37F:FFF1:B8C7:377A:E43E:A343 (talk) 01:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Koreans of Han Chinese descent extentEdit

@Nkon21: Just a query to try and achieve WP:CONS. If the article shows that the average Korean studied has very little genealogical difference or "is almost distinct" from the average 'southern' Han Chinese, then wouldn't it be more appropriate to suggest that larger numbers of Koreans are of 'southern' Han Chinese descent? Just saying "large numbers" probably isn't specific enough, as some people may view the existing 200-odd thousand Koreans officially acknowledged as Han Chinese descent as "large numbers", when research shows that it is probably "larger numbers". Important difference ThanksKip1234 (talk) 22:50, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm fine with that. However, statements that possess a passive tone such as "but most Koreans are probably" are best to be avoided. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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