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On Ching ShihEdit

Hi y'all, I've completely revamped the Ching Shih article based on reliable sources, both in Chinese and English. Would appreciate it if someone from the project would take a look since I'm still new to Wikipedia!

Proposed deletion of Qishuyan railway stationEdit

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The article Qishuyan railway station has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:GNG there are no claims of notability in the article. The other language article https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%88%9A%E5%A2%85%E5%A0%B0%E7%AB%99 has several references, but the all seem to be minor mentions and/or primary sources.

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Add Caixin to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources ?Edit

I think it might be a good idea to start a discussion over whether Caixin is a reliable source in regards to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources? It is under the jurisdiction of Mainland China but informally I've heard its pretty reliable for Mainland Chinese publications. Of course there's the usual caveat with claims regarding Mainland Chinese politics due to the government having supremacy.... WhisperToMe (talk) 15:29, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[]

  • I think that discussion is worth having. It is generally considered a top-tier reporting body by professional China analysts outside the country, but with the understanding that there are plenty of red lines, etc., that cannot be crossed, especially as of late. WhinyTheYounger (WtY)(talk, contribs) 15:10, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Started at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#RFC:_Perennial_sources_consideration_for_Caixin? WhisperToMe (talk) 16:31, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[]
I've given my two cents there – probably does make sense to get broad community input on it (even if it doesn't make it to an entry in WP:RSP), though people at RSN can sometimes get a bit agitated when commenting on sources that haven't come off the back of a specific dispute... ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 18:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Unsourced Food Article Clean-upEdit

Hi, I've been trying to improve some food-related articles. Sourcing is always a pain because food is basically "folk knowledge", but it's even harder when it's in a language I don't know. Anyway, here's a list of articles that I have exhausted my brains and searching abilities in English Google News, Books, and Scholar and now I must kindly ask for help from anyone who can read and assess sources in Mandarin (but other dialects might help too).

I've explained the issues on each article's talk page

These ones were really bad and had little distinguishing it as a special dish. I'll send to AfD if there's no good Chinese source:

These ones were more promising, with unique English names but still have poor sourcing. My gut tells me a good Chinese source is out there:

And before anyone gives me trouble for being too delete-focused, here are some topics that came up in my search that might actually be article-worthy:

  • Glorious Pharmacy, indie band [1]
  • Misandao (band), punk band (the band came up more in English sources than the actual dessert.)
  • Ye Guangqin, author [2]

Any help appreciated, cheers, Estheim (talk) 02:28, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[]

For yinsijuan, see here. That's a type of roll popular in many places outside of Beijing and definitely notable enough for a standalone article. Not sure how notable the rest are (for the less common dishes, it's not so easy finding Chinese recipes online that fully meet the sourcing requirements of the notability guideline), although kaikouxiao seems to be a Beijing variant of zh:芝麻棗, or possibly just a synonym for it. Cobblet (talk) 16:33, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you @Cobblet:, I've added that source to Yin si juan. It's super hard to reference prepared foods in general (Peanut punch still tortures me, and that's in English-speaking Caribbean countries even). Sometimes the unreliable sources can give hints to other names/translations, and using the Chinese characters in a Google image search can show if many people are identifying the same thing using that name... but even with RSs, it's really getting water from stone! Estheim (talk) 18:17, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[]

RfC discussion at Talk:Second Cold War (September 2021)Edit

I started an RfC discussion: Talk:Second Cold War#RfC: Use a map, an image, or neither? --George Ho (talk) 18:24, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Territory of Republic of ChinaEdit

Was it said somewhere that mainland territory of Republic of China currently occupied by Communist revolutionists is no longer considered as Republic of China territory and was de fecto annexted? Eurohunter (talk) 14:33, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Eurohunter: I assume your question is related to Talk:China § China vs People's Republic of China? It would be a good idea to keep it there if that is the case. MarioGom (talk) 15:30, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@MarioGom: It's not related. I didn't asked there about it. Eurohunter (talk) 08:48, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Eurohunter: Then I'm afraid I don't fully grasp your question. Are you asking if there's any Wikipedia article that frames the PRC-ROC issue as the PRC being occupied territory? MarioGom (talk) 09:43, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@MarioGom: My question is: Is mainland territory of Republic of China no longer considered as Republic of China territory by Republic of China goverment? Eurohunter (talk) 09:48, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Eurohunter: The short answer is No. For a longer answer: When the ROC amended their constitution in 1991 they stopped pretending that they control mainland China, but didn't give up their claim to it. Instead they changed electoral laws so that they apply only to the "free area" of the ROC, i.e. Taiwan. You can find the amendments here and an in-depth discussion of the changes here.--Shmarrighan (talk) 06:40, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Dalelkhan_Sugirbayev#DescendantsEdit

Nusipkhan Konbay is a male. How can Dalelkhan Sugirbayev's son marry to Nusipkhan Konbay?--Kaiyr (talk) 09:00, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Proposed deletion of Qiqihar Medical UniversityEdit

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The article Qiqihar Medical University has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

The subject of the article appears to be a hoax. The subject's website is riddled with very simple grammatical errors which are completely unexpected for a university hoping to attract English-speaking students. A search for sources on the subject only pulls up those which which appear to be affiliated with the subject (compare the previous webpage with this 'review' website. It associates itself with a "jagvimal" entity, which is also the phone number its website links to. Jagvimal also posts stolen articles in order to spam itself. And check out all the incredibly fake pictures that pop up when you search for this university!

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Equivamp - talk 04:38, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Invite Chinese Wikipedians to check the draft 2021 Wikimedia Foundation's actions in Chinese WikipediaEdit

@Tol and Chinese WikiProject members: This draft was declined beause "not enough notability", a Wikipedia think this may caused by misread or misinterpreted the Chinese sources. I hope Chinese Wikipedian on English Wikipedia (esp. AFC members) to review those sources again, since the article have no notability issue on Chinese Wikipedia. Wiki Emoji | Emojiwiki Talk~~ 00:45, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[]

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