Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China/Archive 17

Senkaku Islands Content Split/Removal

Hi everyone. I would like to discuss the Senkaku Islands article, specifically (a) all sections i, ii, and iii that give the actual arguments used in its dispute, (b) the one section on the history of the dispute, (c) and the one section that is not about the islands themselves.

(a) Moving all of the disputable contents to a separate article would help readers better understand what information is being disputed and what is not.

(b) Although the current list of historical events is more on the factual side, it is centered on the dispute over the islands. As such, it would disproportionately distract from the islands themselves and may be better combined in a separate article with the sections mentioned in (a).

(c) The information in this section might be related to the islands outside of Wikipedia, but as far as how articles are organized, it has nothing to do with the topic--in fact, it does not even mention the islands.

Lastly, although I would love to move around or rephrase any content so that it could be agreeable to Wikipedia guidelines, I don't think it would be the best practice if questionable edits were practically to become a burden for other editors. In which case, I would think that removal--following discussion on the relevant Talk Page and Noticeboard--should be justified despite loosing the questionable contents.DXDanl (talk) 19:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I think moving the dispute information out makes a lot of sense (although I'd keep 1 summarizing paragraph in the main article so that someone who doesn't want the full story can still get the gist of the dispute). Three similar examples that come to mind for me are Sea of Japan naming dispute split from Sea of Japan, the nearly identical situation of Liancourt rocks dispute separated from Liancourt rocks, and the massive host of articles like Historicity of Jesus, Historical Jesus, Nativity of Jesus, etc. split of from Jesus. As a side note, while you're at it, you might want to convert the bullet point chronology into a prose chronology; although, perhaps, you want to leave that part til later. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:59, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Please propose it in the talk page of senkaku islands. I think most involved editors read that talk page instead of this one. --Winstonlighter (talk) 12:50, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Nope, because I had already done that 8 days ago, during which you were active. Re-read the talk page again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DXDanl (talk • contribs) 06:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I believe that I have also done that twice myself. Qwyrxian (talk) 09:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Tiananmen Incident

FYI, Tiananmen Incident has been requested to be renamed. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 02:29, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Template:Xinjiang Flag

FYI, {{Xinjiang Flag}} has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 03:10, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Translation please

Can anyone translate this inscription for me please? i think it might be a memorial or grave marker, but don't know. I asked on the WikiProject Japan page because I thought it was Japanese and a kind editor User:SpuriousQ said:

This could be Chinese, actually. The characters almost match the string "卓故领事还来公被害纪念碑" which appears in this Chinese article http://www.chinaqw.com/node2/node2796/node2882/node2953/node3136/userobject6ai3903.html. I can't read Chinese but it seems to describe a monument in Malaysia for those who died in World War 2. The inscription itself looks to be the name of the monument, says something about "victim's memorial monument/tombstone"

• top part
  top part
• bottom part
  bottom part
• all of the inscription
  all of the inscription

Thankyou.Melcheeyore (talk) 13:11, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

It is Chinese. It means something like "Former Consul Zhuo Huanlai Memorial". Literally, it is like "Zhuo Former Consul Huanlai Reverend Victimized Memorial Monument". Google "卓还来" or "Zhuo Huanlai" for more details. HkCaGu (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou. A name to go on is great, especially if he was a consul. ThanksMelcheeyore (talk) 16:35, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Giant Panda

FYI, Giant Panda has been requested to be renamed. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 04:48, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

noted, not really pertaining to the purpose of this page. Thanks anyways

Hongdx (talk) 21:40, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Winner, runner-up, contestants on China's Got Talent biographies

Anyone with any knowledge of any contestant's past and present career accomplishments, please provide a page for them if necessary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:China%27s_Got_Talent —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.114.107.40 (talk) 01:39, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

NRA units

FYI, NRA unit articles have been nominated for deletion:

• NRA Squad , NRA Platoon , NRA Company , NRA Battalion , NRA Regiment , NRA Brigade , NRA Division , NRA Corps.

76.66.200.95 (talk) 07:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Re-organization of Chinese art/arts articles

Chinese art gets a large number of page views - about 800 per day, but is rightly classed as "start" class. The much fuller History of Chinese art (B class) gets fewer than half as many views. A problem both pages share is that they include literature, music and drama and other performance arts. They thus cover The arts rather than art, the latter normally meaning just visual art in English and on en:Wikipedia - see other articles such as German art. I propose the following:

1. rename Chinese art to Arts in China (currently a redirect to "Chinese art"), or possibly just merge with Culture of China
2. Redirect "Chinese art" to History of Chinese art - maybe renaming to the former, as with other country's articles
3. Take all the non-visual art material from the current "History of ..." and merge to the current "Chinese art"/Arts in China - mostly it is better than what is there now.
4. Take the "art market" section from the current "Chinese art" article & add to the current "History of..." article
5. I would then like to improve the main visual art article, over time; the other arts I can't help with.

Comments here please. Johnbod (talk) 23:20, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Senkaku Islands related images up for deletion

See WP:FFD, images File:1953renminribao.GIF and File:PRCmap-senkakuislands.jpg have been nominated for deletion. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 04:29, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

File:Letter of thanks from ROC consul to Ishigakijima in 1920.jpg has also been nominated for deletion. See commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Letter of thanks from ROC consul to Ishigakijima in 1920.jpg -- 76.66.200.95 (talk) 05:45, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Category:Nanking Massacre deniers

FYI, Category:Nanking Massacre deniers has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.198.128 (talk) 04:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Hung Huang reading

Hi! I checked the tones for Hung Huang. According to Wiktionary:

• 洪 is hóng
• 晃 can be huǎng or huàng

Which tone is 晃? WhisperToMe (talk) 09:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• Based on a post at the reference desk, I am assuming it is Huǎng WhisperToMe (talk) 10:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Legation Siege of Peking

FYI, we have two articles, Siege of Beijing Legation Quarter and Siege of the Legations, Beijing 1900 ... they should be merged.

76.66.199.238 (talk) 05:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, "Siege of the Legations, Beijing 1900" is a bad name for the event. 76.66.199.238 (talk) 05:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Hu Ge (director) can you help?

This article on Hu Ge (director), described as an "...amateur movie director in the People's Republic of China..." has been tagged as an unreferenced BLP since November 2008 (which is the current focus month of the BLP Rescue Project). From the text of the article, I think he could just pass the notability guidelines for creatives but I have been unable to find any reliable sources to support the text. I'm posting here in the hope that someone with more knowldege might like to take an interest and find at least one source.--Plad2 (talk) 08:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

use of {zh} template

Notification of discussion about use of {{zh}} at WT:LEDE --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 03:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Mainland Provincial Templates

As is done for Guangdong and Guangxi (as far as I know) on English Wikipedia, and for all mainland provinces on the Chinese Wikipedia, the subsections such as culture, cuisine, etc as well as the county-level divisions are combined into one template. This saves the redundancy of the second template (i.e. Template:County-level divisions of Anhui) I suggest following through for the remaining mainland provinces, and may raise this issue at WP:Requested Moves. If no one objects within by November 1, I will begin merging the two templates for each province. --15:36, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

--- Copied from OhConfucius's talk ---

I propose that the following be done for all 31 (did I count correctly?) provinces of mainland China: merge the contents of the templates "County-level divisions in Anhui" into "Template:Anhui" (比如说). This has already been done for at least Guangdong, as far as I know. And this is what is done on Chinese Wikipedia. Why have two templates when one, albeit very large, could suffice? --HXL 何献龙 03:43, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• I'm not sure I understand correctly. Do you have a link of what you want to merge, and a link to the Chinese template end result? --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 03:49, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

meh. I'll give you wiki-links, but won't actually do anything for an example because I don't have the time. Merge the contents of Template:County-level divisions of Anhui into the almost-naked Template:Anhui. For a Sinicised/Japan-ified example, see zh:模板:安徽行政区划 --HXL 何献龙 03:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

by the way, since this will be a large change, as hundreds of county pages may already use the template "County-level divisions of...", this may be an issue. We may need to ask a bot owner to have his bot remove all instances of the template "County-level divisions of..." once the merger is complete. --HXL 何献龙 03:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I believe size is less of a concern rather than the bot issue I raised above. --HXL 何献龙 03:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for contemplating this proposal. --HXL 何献龙 03:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Wouldn't it be so much simpler to just move {{County-level divisions of Anhui}} to {{Anhui}}?

then we lose a lot of information... once we (ought to call in other users as well) reach agreement/consensus, then actually merging the two types of templates ought not take more than a few hours for one editor. I'll call in Benlisquare, Rjanag, and a few others --HXL 何献龙 04:01, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• It's only a navigational template... But with an edit like this, no information would be lost. Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 04:06, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

well I thought you meant "move County-level divisions of... to Template:Anhui", which is a bad idea. But that edit was good. Meh. Already bothered the two of those users... --HXL 何献龙 04:14, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

--- Continuation ---

• I still believe that if we applied edits like this to the template, I don't see why we would want to use the old province templates after that. The simplest thing to do then would be to just turn the province templates into redirects. That, or we can apply for an admin to help us move them all. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 05:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

well if you make test edits to the county templates, and then copy them to the main provincial templates, then I believe we would only need re-directs. I erred in thinking that all counties will use both the provincial and county templates. --HXL 何献龙 14:37, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

北塘

The article Felice Beato tells its readers:

The two accompanied the Anglo-French forces travelling north to Talien Bay, then to Pehtang and the Taku Forts at the mouth of the Peiho, and on to Peking and the suburban Summer Palace, Qingyi Yuan.

(without explicit sourcing). It seems that, for better or worse, the article uses the romanization that Beato would have used, or did use. I hope that this decision is greeted with a (near) consensus of either approval or disapproval.

"Pehtang" is linked to "Beitang", which is a disambig page. Now, we need sourcing. But even this could well be ambiguous; while we lack sourcing, is it possible to say with confidence whether this is this one Beitang or this other Beitang? (Incidentally, both are written 北塘.)

Informed help would be welcome. -- Hoary (talk) 02:46, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• Got it. Cheers. • Ling.Nut (talk) 03:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the fix, Ling.Nut. -- Hoary (talk) 03:16, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Hirohito, rename, again

FYI, Hirohito has again been nominated for renaming, see Talk:Hirohito. As Hirohito was Sovereign of Taiwan, for the period ending VJ-day, I though I'd let you know. 76.66.203.138 (talk) 13:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Chinatowns in the Middle East

FYI, Chinatowns in the Middle East has been prodded for deletion. 76.66.203.138 (talk) 04:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Chinatown patterns in Canada and the United States

FYI, Chinatown patterns in Canada and the United States has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.203.138 (talk) 05:03, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Southern California Chinatowns

FYI, Southern California Chinatowns has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.203.138 (talk) 06:33, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Hong Kong Engagement Standards

The article Hong Kong Engagement Standards has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

A search for references failed to find significant coverage in reliable sources to comply with notability requirements. This included web searches for news coverage, books, and journals, which can be seen from the following links:
Hong Kong Engagement Standards – news, books, scholar
Consequently, this article is about a subject that appears to lack sufficient notability.

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Guo Rong Zhang vs Leslie Cheung

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Cheung

Leslie Cheung (with YinPin name Guo Rong Zhang) seems to be a very different person from the business man Guo Rong Zhang. Perhaps there is a way to disambiguate the article for the businessman Guo Rong Zhang.

Frank6677 (talk) 01:40, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

China-related articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

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Shenlong - Chinese Mythology (Dragons)

Checked this article and refrenced it. There is nothing more to say about this dragon. Thus I doubt its not being a stub any longer and the hint about the stub can be removed (see discussion page also). If you agree, I remove it the next days. --Sat Ra (talk) 23:54, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I highly doubt there isn't any more to be said about him. What about his presentation in Chinese art? Does he appear in any Chinese classics? Is he still prayed to today? Is he venerated in anyway in the Taoist or Buddhist pantheons? What are (ancient and modern) Chinese people's general impressions of him? In short, the article is still a stub. Just because you can't find additional information on him doesn't mean there isn't anymore. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 01:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, these are good points. Haven't thought about it so far. Sorry. So I will still keep an eye on this dragon and try to find out more. --Sat Ra (talk) 21:15, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing

I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Tiangong Kaiwu

I noticed that while several articles refer to the Tiangong Kaiwu encyclopedia, there's no article on it here on Wikipedia... Looks like an article that should exist? 76.66.203.138 (talk) 14:29, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Photo requests

Is anyone on here located in the Beijing, Shanghai, or Guangzhou areas? There are photo requests for airline headquarters in those areas.

• Guangzhou: China Southern - 278 Jichang Road, Guangzhou 510405, Guangdong Province, the Peoples Republic of China - 广东省广州市白云区机场路278号
• Beijing: Air China - No. 16, A TianZhu Airport Industrial Zone TianZhu West Road ShunYi District, BEIJING, P.R.CHINA, 101312
• Shanghai: China Eastern - 2550 Hong Qiao Road Hong Qiao International Airport Shanghai, 200335

Also on Taiwan there is a request for the China Airlines HQ, on-site at Taipei airport WhisperToMe (talk) 20:47, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Chinese cruiser Ping Hai

FYI, Chinese cruiser Ping Hai has been requested to be merged away, see Talk:Chinese cruiser Ping Hai and Talk:Yasoshima#Move?

76.66.203.138 (talk) 05:59, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/蜀

FYI, 蜀 has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.203.138 (talk) 07:11, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Template:¥

FYI, there's a discussion about {{¥}} at WT:JAPAN and Template talk:¥, that concerns the RMB and Japanese Yen. 76.66.203.138 (talk) 07:35, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Three Councillors of State

fyi, there is a naming dispute brewing at Three Councillors of State, which was recently moved from Three Excellencies. _dk (talk) 15:25, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

My dad is Li Gang!

Hello. The article Li Gang incident has just been selected to appear on the main page in a few days, as part of the DYK project. A translation of the Chinese Wikipedia article has been started at User:Siyuwj/Sandbox/0, but left unfinished. Any help in translating Chinese and expanding the main article would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much, Comte0 (talk) 22:20, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

a few days being...? Once I finish my current work I may get to it, but even then only translate small bits. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 22:36, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, I am not that familiar with WP:DYK, and they seem to be understaffed. For the record, my previous DYK was approved on October 30, and went live on the main page on November 4. Thus I do not expect my submission to be featured this week. Thanks for the help anyway, Comte0 (talk) 00:20, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

It's in the Queue 1, scheduled to appear tomorrow at 8PM (Beijing local time). You can look it up using WhatLinksHere. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 13:44, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking of something like this: currently the article is nominated for WP:DYK as a "new article"; perhaps in a few weeks after the nomination finishes, we could merge the two versions, and we can then nominate the article for DYK for a second time again, as a "5x expansion". Then, we can have the article displayed on DYK twice. Since the English Wikipedia prefers English-language references and sources, it shouldn't be too hard to mix/merge the two different versions into one. There are no DYK rules saying that an article cannot be featured in DYK more than once; in fact, there are quite a few articles out there that have been on DYK multiple times, following separate batches of expansions. However, we can't have one following the other too soon though. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 04:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Given the lack of people and time available, that's probably a good idea. I'm a bit concerned by the length of the article, though: it's already 7K, and you'll have to expand it to 35K for it to be accepted; that's quite big. Good luck, Comte0 (talk) 13:44, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

...So it was viewed 12,400 times. Nice :)

I was surprised to notice several newspaper articles yesterday about that. I suspect the confused reader on its talk page was actually a journalist in a hurry, however it lacks a short introduction. I'm definitely interested in having a translation of the Chinese Wikipedia article, since it's more accurate; I'm sorry I can't help you on that matter. Did any of you decide anything about that ? Regards, Comte0 (talk) 11:03, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Comte, I hinted at the strong possibility that I would not begin translating until this afternoon UTC−5. Sorry though --12:58, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Since it's been on the main page, there's no need to be stressed, and I apologize if I gave you the wrong impression. I was actually wondering whether there was more than two people around: AFAICT Benlisquare messages on User talk:Siyuwj went unanswered. Also, his plan above seems sensible to me, and I refrained adding more content because of it. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 15:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Wu Youjian

Here is a CNN article about Wu Youjian, known in China for her LGBT advocacy after her son revealed his orientation to her:

• Jiang, Steven. "'Mama Wu' unlikely hero for homosexuals in China." CNN. November 16, 2010.

WhisperToMe (talk) 05:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Changfeng

The usage of Changfeng is under discussion, see Talk:Chang Feng. 76.66.203.138 (talk) 07:24, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Imperial Noble Consort Shu Jia

The article Imperial Noble Consort Shu Jia has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

A search for published (gBook) references found only wiki mirrors, fails WP:V and WP:N.

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Non-English characters in dab page, article page, redirect page names, up for RfC

See WT:Article titles#Non-Roman characters in redirects to articles, where an RfC has been opened on the use of non-English characters in page titles for disambiguation and redirect titles (and there appears to also be discussion about article titles) 76.66.203.138 (talk) 09:30, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Chinese Revolution

FYI Chinese Revolution (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been requested to be renamed 76.66.194.212 (talk) 07:59, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

User Kwami and Canton

Kwamikagami (talk · contribs) has now started a discussion on the use of Canton, at Wikipedia talk:Article titles ... He completely disregards the usage of Canton for the province, and says that Canton for the city is the common name in English for the city. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 08:35, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Disagreement at 2010 Nobel Peace Prize

Please refer to dispute/discussion at Talk:2010_Nobel_Peace_Prize#3O and subsection section. 3O did not seem to resolve matters to the satisfaction to the editor I'm having a disagreement with. Any comments would be welcome. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 13:52, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

RfC on Senkaku Islands

An RfC has been opened regarding the title of the Senkaku Islands and Senkaku Islands dispute pages. The discussion can be found at Talk:Senkaku Islands#What should the title of this article be?. As this page is of interest to this project, we invite your comments. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:18, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Standard Mandarin

FYI, Standard Mandarin has been requested to be renamed. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 05:36, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Pinyin deletions

Is there something wrong that I'm missing with these ip removals of pinyin transliterations of names? It's not something I know anything about.--Misarxist 14:16, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Removing them from the introduction is more or less fine, because HK is a Cantonese area. Removing them from the article is not. This information could be of use to those learning Mandarin, and I ask the question "why not include it"? --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 15:46, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

List of ethnic Chinese Nobel laureates

FYI, List of ethnic Chinese Nobel laureates has been requested to be deleted. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 06:14, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Task force diaspora?

Should there be a task force for diaspora issues? I've noticed that some diaspora related articles are tagged with WPChina, and rated, while others are not, and some are detagged, because they are not occurring withing China's international borders, while others obviously have been rated are also about affairs outside of China. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 06:16, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes there should be a task force: can you create one? And of course WikiProject China covers topics beyond the borders of the modern state; the main article China is multifaceted and includes the Chinese nation, culture, and civilization. The diaspora, in any case, have effected and still effect important political and economic changes inside China. Quigley (talk) 05:05, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Me personally? No, IP editors cannot create pages; I can initiate a process that will lead to the creation of such a TF though. Besides that, there needs to be sufficient demonstration of support for the creation of such a TF first from the members of this WPP. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 06:09, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

黑龙江 & 黑龍江

For those that are interested, I have requested 黑龙江 and its traditional counterpart to be re-targeted to the Amur River. Follow the discussion here. Thanks. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 03:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

黑龍江 is also under consideration along with 黑龙江 76.66.194.212 (talk) 06:07, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles to merge?

New Year picture and Nianhua seem to be duplicate. Please consider merging. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 15:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• done. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 16:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Please help translate stroke order to zh:筆順.

Content from stroke order was pasted in zh:筆順. Any help translating the English content to Chinese is appreciated. Asoer (talk) 03:27, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I'll get to it, although I will be lacking in some of the more technical translations. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 04:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles to merge

I found another case. Seymour Expedition, China 1900 and Seymour Expedition seem to be duplicate. Please consider merging. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 15:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I've redirected the first page to the second. However, I think some of the material that was in the first might be useful in the second. John Smith's (talk) 18:47, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

What you did was delete entirely my article, "Seymour Expedition, China 1900" and keep the other article. My article was well-sourced, neutral, scholarly, and contained pictures and maps. THe other one has numerous inaccuracies and was replete with emotional non-neutral language that does not belong in an encyclopedia article. I request a qualitative review of the two articles to see which is the more worthy of retention. User:Smallchief

That isn't the way Wikipedia works. You don't try to supercede an existing article, you add to it and refine it. You seem to have completely misunderstood the point of Wikipedia. Articles are not fixed, they are always evolving. You are free to take the text you provided and use it to improve the existing article, but please do not do a copy and paste job. John Smith's (talk) 20:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

I would hope that Wiki's first priority would be to present accurate and impartial information to the public. My article did that; what you kept didn't. Now, how do I recover my article with all the Wiki code? User:Smallchief

Already informed you. John Smith's (talk) 21:30, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Smallchief, if you have a problem with an existing article, you add content to it. I understand in this situation it was a mistake since the article was originally title "Battle of Langfang", but i moved it to Seymour Expedition since that was more accurate, in between the move, you created the other article. However, you did make the mistake John Smith described when you created a second article on the legation siege. I created an article on the siege, with the correct title before you did. You then proceeded to create an entirely new article to add massive amounts of content. What you did with the legation article was basically if a stub article on the US president Barack Obama existed with deficient information, and you decided to clone the article name and create a new biography on Obama. Which totally would not make sense at all.Дунгане (talk) 02:32, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

By the way, the article i created before you already was essentially a summary of the expedition even before it was renamed. It was linked from the Boxer Rebellion main article in the template and you should have seen it. You should work on existing articles rather than creating multiple articles on the subject.Дунгане (talk) 02:40, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

This double article incident on the legations article occured here, i first created the article Siege of Beijing Legation Quarter, then over 15 days later Smallchief created Siege of the Legations, Beijing 1900. Smallclown then merged them.Дунгане (talk) 03:57, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Quemoy

Category:Quemoy has been nominated to be renamed to Category:Kinmen see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 December 15 .. 65.93.13.227 (talk) 06:48, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Requested move notice for "An Shi Rebellion"

• An Shi Rebellion → ? —(Discuss)— As this topic is bannered by your wikiproject, I have taken the step to inform you of a move request —65.93.13.227 (talk) 12:01, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Reassessing rating for Chinese Archery

Hi, I have significantly expanded the Chinese archery article, which used to be a stub. How do I request someone to reassess the quality rating for the Talk:Chinese_archery page? - Jtma (talk) 14:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Assessed as C class for WPCHINA. I see that the MILHIST project has carried out their own assessment as well. Thanks for your hard work!--Danaman5 (talk) 15:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Anti-Chinese Riots needs to be disambiguation

I discovered this redirect last night, which somebody had made to refer to ... Vancouver anti-Chinese riots, 1886 (that's the corrected title; it had been "1886 Anti-Chinese riots in British Columbia". Clearly the Rock Springs massacre and variously elsewhere in North America, and the anti-Chinese riots in Jakarta and various other countries over time, are also to be listed, given that the redirect needs to be made into a disambiguation list; I'm not familiar enough with the relevant articles, though I know of some in North America, to begin the page. NB the article is POV in tone, kinda point-form biased (blunt facts adding up to a sentence, i.e. a guilty sentence); I've provided some further readings, all of which can be cites for what I've just added, but I don't ahve them on hand so couldn't line-cite, so left the "unreferenced" tag and just called them "further readings". I figured this was the better place to bring it than WP Talk:Asian American or WP:Canada, though once the redirect is converted to a disambiguation those WPs should be on the template; presumably WP:Aus and wherever else...Skookum1 (talk) 06:03, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Help wanted on reading characters

Hi! I found the Chinese names of nine Houston streets, posted at Talk:Chinatown, Houston But I am not sure how the characters are read in all of the instances.

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 01:21, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Though this seems to be a reference desk-type question, I am willing to help out personally. In the future, though, you could do it yourself by pinyin-ising (converting to pinyin, which is the standard romanisation for Mandarin) with tools such as [www.pin1yin1.com this]. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 01:27, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Lemme see how many of these I can get done with http://www.pin1yin1.com - Thanks for letting me know about that site! If I have any further questions I will post additional responses here. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Wait, is Houston's Chinatown a Mandarin Chinatown? If it's like most North American Chinatowns, all those readings are wrong, because it would be Cantonese. 184.144.170.217 (talk) 20:04, 29 December 2010 (UTC)