Talk:Areas annexed by Nazi Germany

South Tyrol

South Tyrol and Bozen were annexed by Nazi Germany in 1943. The article might mention this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missaeagle (talk • contribs) 17:23, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Why does the map mark the Netherlands and Denmark as blue?

Blue marks Germany in its pre-1938 borders.--Adûnâi (talk) 19:11, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Czechoslovakia

The region of Hlučínsko and the region of Zaolzie were attached to the Gau Silesia (I don't know if this could be counted as the Altreich, however). I don't know why there are parts of Sudetenland mentioned again in 1939 (attached to Bavarian Eastern March, Lower Danube, Sudetenland and Upper Danube). It was an occupation of the rest of the Czech lands and creation of the Protectorate (apart of some negligible changes). 195.113.155.5 (talk) 14:49, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 20 April 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – MaterialWorks 01:55, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

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Areas annexed by Germany → Areas annexed by Nazi Germany - All the territories listed in the article were annexed by Nazi Germany, not by the German Empire or any other German regime, there was no reason at all to change it. -- 2804:248:FB27:CD00:3842:F105:8805:F5FF (talk) 00:37, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Support. Also, this restores consistency with Polish areas annexed by Nazi Germany. This would undo an undiscussed move (WP:RMUM), albeit 2 years ago (April 26, 2021). @Eurohunter's reason given was "just Germany like in German-occupied Europe etc." SilverLocust (talk) 01:17, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Support - realistically could've been WP:RM/TR. Estar8806 (talk) 01:46, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Oppose The government in place at any given time is irrelevant, the country is still Germany from its 1871 foundation. The fact that all the annexations noted here took place between 1933 and 1945 is coincidental. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 02:34, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

It's not coincidental. It's kinda the scope of the article. Super Ψ Dro 20:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

• Support for now. It has to be either moved back or re-scoped. Alsace–Lorraine was definitely annexed by Germany, but not the Nazis. Srnec (talk) 04:49, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support: the article makes clear that its scope is entirely about WWII, and omits the annexation of Alsace-Lorraine, a few months after the foundation of the German Empire. UndercoverClassicist (talk) 13:15, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Polish areas annexed by Nazi Germany should be moved to Polish areas annexed by Germany for consistency. I don't think that Nazi Germany is common name for Germany. What is the point? For the same reason we don't use Fascist Italy as common name. Eurohunter (talk) 15:02, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

  Your objection seems to be about Nazi Germany. But that has long been the consensus WP:COMMONNAME for that regime. SilverLocust (talk) 01:59, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per Roger 8 Roger and Eurohunter, but would support — if there is consensus for a more detailed main title header — Areas annexed by Germany → Areas annexed by Germany between 1938 and 1944 or whatever other years would be specifically appropriate regarding pre-World War II and wartime German annexations. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:39, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support. I really can't understand the rationale of users opposing this move. This article covers the lands annexed by Nazi Germany. There is no common name discussion to be had here. The article for the German entity that existed in the covered period is titled Nazi Germany. The article is also not about any other kind of Germany. Super Ψ Dro 20:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
• Comment The expansion concept was not confined to Nazi Germany, it had long been part of the Prussian/German mindset. To think that Nazi Germany was somehow a unique phenomenon is wrong - it was a continuation of what had gone before taken to its extremes. To think otherwise shows a lack of historical context. The breaking of that German mentality occurred post WW2. As well as Alsace Lorraine, we should also look at the 1917 Treaty of Brest-Litovsk where major areas in the East were annexed by Germany at Russia's expense. That is often forgotten because it was overtaken by Versailles a year of so later. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 02:44, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

  That's true, but as Super Dromaeosaurus pointed out, the scope of the article was always about Nazi Germany. 2804:248:FB27:CD00:60ED:F490:F45A:1A5E (talk) 04:32, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Well, why not expand its scope, which would be an improvement. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 07:40, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Personally I would support it, but you would need consensus for that. 2804:248:FB27:CD00:60ED:F490:F45A:1A5E (talk) 08:22, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

That's not something you determine through a RM. Consistency with German-occupied Europe, covering only the Nazi period, would also be broken. Super Ψ Dro 08:43, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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Slovenia

Lower Styria and Carniola were never fully annexed, despite many German laws being applied there. Annexation was ready, the decree was on Hitler's table but postponed several times and never signed. Partly because of resistance but mostly for technical legal reasons like who exactly becomes German citizen and others. They were simply more pedantic than Italy or Hungary who swiftly annexed the occupied parts of what is now Slovenia. I'll correct the article with sources later, for example https://ojs.inz.si/pnz/article/download/3406/3743/ Messlo (talk) 17:17, 27 November 2023 (UTC)