TonyStarks

Uncivility - Reply

Hi there TONY, VASCO here

about this (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Warms_the_heart...), why should i defend the undefendable? Yes i admit, i severely insulted the "user", but the "user" is nothing but a lowlife vandal, User:Bruno corinthiano, in that case editing anonymously.

The "user" in question, for several months, removed pic caption in boxes, "corrected" years with clubs, etc, etc. People (including me, politely) tried to talk with him, to no avail whatsoever (he said "talk to the hand"). That's why i lost it in that particular summary, not saying it's OK to do that, according to WP guidelines it's not; and yes, not the first time i do it.

However, since i am not a vandal or the sort, i think i am welcome to edit here and improve articles, or do you beg to differ? Sincerely, the last line of your input at WP:FOOTY suggested that. Oh, and by the way, both the BRUNO account and that anon address have been blocked.

Attentively, enjoy that weekend - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 19:13, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

• Ah, update, the anon account mentioned here has had its blocked lifted, has returned to its previous ways, thought i'd let you know. --Vasco Amaral (talk) 19:20, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for the quick and kind reply man! --Vasco Amaral (talk) 20:02, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

QSL transfers

I thought any transfers made after the summer transfer window were appropriate for that wiki article? Because when I looked at the other articles, they seemed to adhere to that. Wilhelmsson and Niang are from September, while Akale is from November. The window ended before those transfers were made. Of course they weren't made in the winter transfer window, but I wouldn't know where else to put them. Would they be more appropriate in the 2011 summer transfer window article(if there was one)? And to answer your question, no, I don't read Arabic. Google translate ftw :D. I browse a lot of Qatari football sites (using translate) and I saved that article for when I decided to make an Evanildo article (you beat me to it). Elspamo4 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:46, 15 January 2012 (UTC).

Nico Yennaris

FYI: google seems to support Nico Yennaris being part Chinese, not Korean. Cheers! Jim1138 (talk) 08:08, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I almost flagged the IP as a vandal, but fortunately did a quick check! Jim1138 (talk) 08:14, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Algerian BLPs

Hi Tony, as our resident expert on Algerian football, I could do with some help please. There has been a sudden increase recently in unreferenced Algerian BLPs, and we need assistance sorting them - infoboxes, references etc. A few a week appear at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Unreferenced BLPs/Full list, so if you could take a look, that would be brilliant! Thanks, GiantSnowman 12:09, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. I will try & have a word with the editor in question. GiantSnowman 12:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Actually, he seems to have already got the message - look at most recent creation Kouamé Valentin. Hopefully he will improve further... GiantSnowman 12:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Category:People of Black African descent

• Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Category:People_of_Black_African_descent

Posted this due to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_January_5#Category:Saudi_Arabian_people_of_Black_African_descent.

In case I am drawn away from Wikipedia again, wanted to place this on your radar.

I'm dropping a note here, and at User talk:Good Olfactory and User talk:Mangoe (apparently the creator). The three of you are the only ones listed in the category page's edit history. If you think anyone else should be notified, please feel free : )

Thanks, and hope you're having a great day : ) - jc37 19:40, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Ali El-Khatib

Hey there. I didn't find at WP:MOSLEAD, why no reference to El-Khatib being born Israeli should be mentioned. In fact, this seems to be the way that all articles are stylized for dual nationals who go on to play for a different national team. (see: Jermaine Jones, Owen Hargreaves etc.) -NYC2TLV (talk) 00:07, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Lazhar Hadj Aïssa

Hi Tony! I was just wondering if you know how I can add the Arab Champions League stats to Hadj Aïssa's stats table? Wbel (talk) 02:53, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I think I'll have to create a custom one, I'll try in a few days. thanks anyway! Wbel (talk) 17:01, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I actually had nothing to do, so I did a little research and constructed my own User:Wbel/Sandbox. I've labeled the Arab Champions League as 'Arab', if you have a more suitable name let me know, and let me know what you think of the table?? Wbel (talk) 18:32, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll add some comments, hopefully they'll aid you! :) Wbel (talk) 16:46, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I've added the new table to his page! Wbel (talk) 19:12, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Liassine Cadamuro-Bentaïba

Hi there TONY, VASCO here,

the official club profile to where you directed me shows the FULL NAME, but that's valid for all the other players at Real Sociedad. His footballing name is just CADAMURO (meaning "name by which he's known best, please have a look at ALL the links and ALL the refs except #1 to see it), i have been following La Liga thoroughly, and his name in game reports is CADAMURO, and his shirt name is CADAMURO but OK, out of respect for your work (i just wished the opposite was truth) i'll leave the article in peace, namewise.

Attentively, happy week - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 22:31, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

WP:ANI

I would advise taking this to ANI as opposed to AN, as it is an issue that requires admin action. You need to provide diffs showing the false information that Maxi has added to articles, then diffs showing you trying to explain to him why it is wrong, and to stop, and then diffs showing that he has ignored you - does that make sense? Explain your concerns that this is a WP:COMPETENCE issue as well as WP:VANDALISM - he doesn't understand our notability, verifiability or BLP policies. If you need any help, let me know. GiantSnowman 09:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Algerian Cup (CSC V OM)

Hey Tony, I just had a look at the highlights on youtube of the game between CSC and OM. I realised that the goal scorer for OM was not Saad Sahraoui, but in fact Farid Zerroukhat. I assume the lebuteur match Report is incorrect. I also wanted to know which Ammoura played the game? was it Sid Ali Ammoura or Tarek Ammoura? I hope you can help with my queries! Wbel (talk) 16:06, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks for the info :) Do you know who was the actual goal scorer Farid Zerroukhat or Saad Sahraoui? could you have a look at the video on youtube, as i'm not sure if Farid Zerroukhat actually got a touch, but it does look like he did. thanks in advance. Wbel (talk) 03:11, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

here is the link CSC 3 - 1 OM. Saad Sahraoui is the one that takes the free kick! Wbel (talk) 03:11, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

lol thanks :) are you interested in working on the Tour d'Algerie (annual bicycle race) articles? Wbel (talk) 15:43, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

lol, I don't follow cycling myself, I just wanted to put the info out there. P.S. I think Algerian football is coming along nicely on wiki! the only thing that is lacking is the text in the articles. Wbel (talk) 04:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

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It's just a move! I'll sort it out asap. Wbel (talk) 15:08, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Adel Lamy

I got the information from ar.wikipedia. Though I couldn't find any information about his origins in the sources I provided, I tried looking further into it, and I found that he is infact a bedoun, like Talal Blooshi, but can't cite them as sources since they are not reliable. In interviews done with him, he mentions plenty about playing with Kuwait SC, but nothing else about Kuwait. Even if he is a bedoun, it is different from being stateless I believe, unless bedouns in Kuwait are not granted citizenship... I don't know the situation. No one can ever be sure about the nationality of a single player playing in Qatar ffs. Anyways, since I can't find a single source to clarify if he is either bedoun or stateless, I'll remove that part. My mistake for looking for information on the Arabic wikipedia. Elspamo4 (talk) 15:04, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, ok, I'm not really sure on legal statuses of ethnic groups. I believe he is of Iraqi descent.

Now that you mention the Lekhwiya article, I'm just about to add season-to-season. I think it might need a little bit of clean up as well. As for the intro, I'm not sure what we could add that is not already in the history section without adding too much detail =P it is a brand new club after all. Adding that they are defending champions might be a good start. I might try to add a little to the intro tomorrow or the day after, but today I will be adding their season-to-season since 2009 and maybe cleaning up/re-arranging some sections. Elspamo4 (talk) 17:44, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

I was talking about the box which shows their position in the league, domestic cups, ACL, etc. since it is so short to add. However - I just changed my mind and decided to make an actual season page lol. Adding from 2009 will just be a waste of space, so what do you think of a 2011/2012 season page? I think it should have one considering 10th league British clubs have one whereas the league champions of Qatar don't have one. I will probably just copy-pasta Real Madrid's format. Do you think 2011/2012 is good, or should I wait till next season? Elspamo4 (talk) 17:57, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

I just realized that a 2011-12 season page already exists. I won't need help editing it, I'll try to edit it all in at once. I have a lot of time since I finished my mocks and I'm waiting till Thursday to get my results and I'm trying to waste time in any way I can; so why not waste it doing something productive? Elspamo4 (talk) 18:14, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

UNAF U-17 Tournament

Hi Tony, as our resident expert on North African football, can you have a look at 2008 UNAF U-17 Tournament (Tunisia) and 2008 UNAF U-17 Tournament (Algeria) please (among others - are they notable? If so, can you find any sources? Thanks, GiantSnowman 15:57, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about the unreferencing for a few of the articles, I did them in a rush. I'll try and help out when I have some spare time. I got some of the info from dzfootball.free.fr, I hope that helps with some referencing. I am sorry to hear you're feeling under the weather Tony, I hope you have a speedy recovery Wbel (talk) 19:45, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks, and its good to here you're on the mend :) by the way do you think its ideal to have two different pages for both of the tournaments in 2008, or do you think combining them into one page would be better? Wbel (talk) 19:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok. How would you label the prevseason and nextseason parameter in the infobox, as I currently set them as 2008 (1) and 2008 (2) etc Wbel (talk) 20:12, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey Tony, I think there was two tournaments held in 2011, one in June and the second in December. could you verify this please? Wbel (talk) 11:13, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

yea, I'm not sure if it started or ended on 24/06/2011. The official website has it down as a previous tournament at unaf-foot.com U17. I think Morocco won it. Wbel (talk) 17:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

yes, I was referring to the first one. thanks for verifying :) Wbel (talk) 18:24, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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DZfoot template

thanks for the info. I can do those templates too, so if you need any next time, just drop me a message :) Wbel (talk) 14:45, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

pages deleted

Hey Tony, I created a few pages yesterday, and one of them has already been deleted (Samir Lemoudaâ) and the other is about to be deleted (Mohamed Nadjib Khiar). They suggest that the notability has not been established, however, I believe I have established the notability, by adding in the intro text that they are professional footballers. I hope you can help out and try and retrieve the deleted page. thanks in advance. Wbel (talk) 13:40, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Tony :) The other page got sorted. I will add this seasons stats at the end of the season, as I'd have to count appearances from the match reports. How did you manage to store the page in your sandbox for future reference? Wbel (talk) 22:00, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

no clue mate, I got it from [1] but I think the one you mentioned is the right one, as it seems like he spent his youth career at CABBA. Wbel (talk) 00:11, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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Rodrigo Tabata

Sorry, my mistake. At first I added all the stats together (from qsl), from when he was on loan and from when he officially joined the club. Then I realized that was wrong, so I updated his club stats to just this year, but QSL.com.qa is slow at updating stats, so they were outdated for 1 game. I didn't see that you already updated the stats. :P I changed it back to the correct ones. Just change it back next time, I can be absent minded sometimes. Elspamo4 (talk) 10:07, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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==Revert name==//22

I know that u follow always my contributions in wikipedia, but I surprise to warn me in wp, u can ask me before do that. Stop making police against me please. and finaly the correct name of Sayoud id Saayoud, it's you who make mistake. --Faycal.09 (talk) 12:35, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok thank you for your message, however the administrator said that he block me because your warning, because this I surprise. For me we are freinds, there are not many algerian contributers in english wikipedia reason that we must work together. I believe you what you explain in your message and sorry if I was angry because what the administrator said against me.

About Saayoud, no probleme for me if we put sayoud, however believe me it's not correct. I explain: In arabic his name is سعيود and if you see there is a lettre عـ wich mean (the 2nd lettre a or â in french). When you put Sayoud, it's mean in arabic only سيود (not correct). Hope that you understand my explain and sorry for all these incomprehension. --Faycal.09 (talk) 13:05, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

The admin is not right because the warnin that i received on past is about copy and past transfert not about changing name, I'm wikipedian and i have the right to change names of article and It's not illegal (only if we put copy and past method).

About Saayoud, Algerian names of caurse work like that iven if we have our meaning, you must know that the berber and arab trasliterated are same because there are not different in phonetic. --Faycal.09 (talk) 20:18, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok dear no problem, we will not fight because this, maybe it's me who make mistake about the name, just I thought make good think and I never want to make problem like that, if I had known that I will make problem I never changed this name. Now that's allright for me, hope just that we will work and together in english or french or arab wikipedia. --Faycal.09 (talk) 22:23, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok kho... thank s for all. Take a care too. --Faycal.09 (talk) 00:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

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List of promotions/relegations

Sorry to get back to you so late, I was a little busy. I haven't had time to work on the list any further but you are most welcome to add JS Saoura and expand the list further. Unfortunatly I can't see myself being able to do more work on it in the near future. Calistemon (talk) 11:02, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Horseed FC

Thank you because your information about the team and because your contribution and especially because you contact me. I see that I maked mistake and sorry to Wikipedia. When I see that I make mistake I always agree and said sorry. I think a few persons are like that (I refere to general people). Yes I'm anything and you not police me, on the contrary I thank you because u repare my mistake. Last time when I said you police me, just I was sad and angry and I was sorry. Hope to see you always happy. --Faycal.09 (talk) 18:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Nadir Belhadj

Hey Tony, I'm fine thanks and you? In regards to your message, I fully agree with you. Its only recently that I've realised that its not ideal to add other players names in intros (I wrote that little intro in early November 2011). On another note, If you feel that editing anything I add to articles can improve the article, feel free to do so, I dont mind at all. Sometimes I am tired and make silly mistakes in my edits, so its not a problem :) ......so does that mean the Yahia, Ziani and Chaouchi intros need to be modified or are those exceptions? Wbel (talk) 05:01, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

alright..I'll sort them out soon. I sorted out the Nadir Belhadj intro, does it sound ok? Wbel (talk) 18:26, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

i've sorted them, another question, do you know which year the ligue inter regions was founded and what happened to the old 3rd division? Wbel (talk) 18:45, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

well, the old 3rd division was called 'Championnat d'Algérie de Division 3' and contained 6 groups; Centre, Ouest, Est (Constantine), Est (Batna), Sud-est and Sud-Ouest (that was 2001-02 season). I think and I'm not sure but the ligue inter-regions was founded in 2003. I want the info as i want to further expanded the ligue inter regions section. Wbel (talk) 22:30, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I haven't been able to find any match reports with the unused subs. I'll have a look into the kits. Wbel (talk) 13:34, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Needing help: Egyptian club from before WWII period

Hi Tony, sorry to bother you but I need to see if you have any idea that can help me over this. What I need is an Egyptian club that Sándor Nemes (also widely known as Alexander Neufeld) played in, and it was his last club in his playing career. The only source I have is a book, "Die legionäre" (pag.294), where it says he played in Egypt with "Alexandria" after playing with BSK Belgrade. The thing is that by that time he had begin to be a coach as well. He was a coach/player in BSK earlier, so it wouldn´t have been strange that he was a coach/player in Alexandria as well, but not sure about it, what is sure is that he played there. We are talking about mid 1930s. He played and coached simultaneously BSK until 1933, but he stayed as a coach til 1935. Then around 1935 and 1936 he was in Israel coaching Hapoel Hatzair, before returning to BSK in 1936 where he stayed as a coach til 1939. Now, he was in Alexandria either somewhere around 1935-36, or perhaps after 1939 and during the 1940s. The wiki article includes that he coached a Yugoslav club named Bata Borovo since 1939, but that seems to be a mistake because the source I took this information from has confused him with another coach also named Nemes, Dragutin. So, we are left with the fact that we don´t know where he went in 1939 and it is possible that he went to Egypt.

Basically, all I have from that book is that Sandor Nemes aka Alexander Neufeld (sometimes also known by a third option name as Antal Nemes, don´t ask me why) ended his playing career abroad playing with Egypt: Alexandria. Now, having you as my main help for all doubts related to Maghreb, what can you tell me about this, and what club may it be? FkpCascais (talk) 03:22, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Many many thanks Tony, and don´t warry, I knew that it would be a hard case. Many sources, and all of them actually good ones like specialised books, often fail to get complete careers for players from this period, and this particular case is even more difficult because different sources are mixing players with similar names. For instance, German wiki Alexander Neufeld article says it was Perry Neufeld (an Hungarian player who played with Maccabi Tel Aviv and who later became Palestinian international) who played for Alexandria, however that doesn´t make much sense as my books say that it was an Austrian Neufeld who was there, and Perry had no connections to Austria while Alexander did as he played for Austria at NT level. To make things even more complicated, there was a third player/coach, Dragutin Nemes, who is also being mixed up with this other two guys, so this is a real hell. I am trying at least to get this one in order, I only feel sorry that I can´t really source Al-Ittihad Al-Sakndary with a source only saying "Alexandria", so I´ll have to be patient and digg more to try to find something.

Hey, remember Mohamed El Monir? I wanted to make him an article but I didn´t even knew how to properly spell his name and by that time there was only one source for him which you found it for me? Well, the article has been doing OK, and we can be proud here on Wikipedia to say that we were the first among all football websites to have an article about him, and nowadays all have it. But even now, the naming inconsistency remains: Mohammed Mounir, Mohamed El-Monir (with ndash), Mohamed Mounir, etc. Basically, there are no two sites which spell him in same way :) FkpCascais (talk) 05:16, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

NA Hussein-Dey

Please don't revert before talking me, yes it's the official name, you can see here. You can see the recent logo of the team here and the old logo here. I'm not here to destroy wikipedia and I have knowledge don't worry. --Faycal.09 (talk) 21:21, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

In the first link, it's writen "Site non officiel du club de football du Nasr Athlétique d'Hussein-Dey (NAHD).", you can also see the calender's club here. U're alone who revert without talking with others too. --Faycal.09 (talk) 21:45, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

I gives you two official websites www.hussein-dey.org and old logo of the team. --Faycal.09 (talk) 22:15, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

No sorry these are two other links and yes u can gives other links however I have me too others. So are you sure that it's without (-)?. All human can make mistakes, sometimes it's me, and sometimes it's u. However the important is to agree the mistakes but only a few persons can do that, that's what i talked to u on past. Finaly no problem, we will not fight because a simple symbol (-), right?. I prefere to speak with you about good things like Algerian championship for example. Greetings --Faycal.09 (talk) 22:25, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Re: Qatari handball clubs

Hey Tony. Yes, I created the articles. Are you sure about names? I wasn't sure about the naming of those clubs, as the only other non-football Qatari team was called "Al Rayyan Futsal Team", so I named it based on that. I've seen a number of other sports clubs articles with the name "X Handball Team". Just curious, are there any articles which advise on the wiki names of other sections of a sports club? If you're sure, I'll take your word for it and rename the articles as soon as it's convenient.

PS. I start my IG's tomorrow so I may not be able to go on Wikipedia much. I'm logging off after this but I'll try to check Wikipedia later this week/maybe tomorrow. Elspamo4 (talk) 18:57, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Myanmar

Just a quick note: In early April, I read through the entire set of Burma/Myanmar archives line by line then fact-checked across the web. I came to the same conclusion you did: The name should be Myanmar. IMHO, however, there is a small, vigilant and committed group of editors intent on maintaining Burma "in solidarity" with those who oppose the current regime "of thugs and murderers." Good luck, and I hope that you can bring the article into compliance with WP:COMMONNAME. The shear volume of canvassing in the last couple of rounds, however, suggests that it will be an uphill fight. Cheers & Thanks, Last1in (talk) 18:10, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I can complain too

Hi there TONY, VASCO here,

what's with this summary in Tonel (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tonel&diff=492823703&oldid=492788841)? And i apologize also because i did not notice i had removed User:Timbouctou's new honour additions when reverting, thanks for being "on top" of that.

Now, for more on your summary: last time i checked, there was no consensus on the numerals on honours, i now for sure someone once said in a summary or at WP:FOOTY "most of us can count that far" about small quantities (like 1 or 2), can't remember who or when, but it clearly shows there is no consensus, no i am not a bigot loner "telling it like it is to everybody else", really don't understand your reaction.

Attentively - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 13:57, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

• Another (here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liassine_Cadamuro-Benta%C3%AFba&diff=481729780&oldid=481696459), even though i started first on this occasion, i apologize, even though in my summary i did not call you a know-it-all as did you (speaking of consensus or lack thereof, i have seen THOUSANDS of times how the dates are written "31 December 2012" not "December 31, 2012", so i was only trying to HELP). I honestly thought it was DZ and then FOOT, short for "FOOTBALL", taking example from France Football from instance (not "FranceFootball"); don't worry, i've taken notice. --Vasco Amaral (talk) 15:58, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

• LOL! "Bigot loner"? Do not even know why i wrote that, was thinking of something similar, sorry man! However, you did say "stop deciding what is ok for everyone else", that's what took me aback, i NEVER implied that my friend, and i know you respect me, feeling is mutual. Take care as well ;) --Vasco Amaral (talk) 23:42, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Al-Shorta SC (Damascus)

I've moved it back and will let the editor in question know. Thanks, GiantSnowman 09:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

No bother at all, I'm more than happy to help! GiantSnowman 10:31, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Contested PROD of Mohamed Walid Bencherifa

You contested this PROD on the grounds that the player in question had played in the Algerian second division. Can you please provide a source to confirm this. Thanks. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:43, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

2011 World Military Cup

Hey Tony, I've created the squad template for the Algeria squad that played in the 2011 World Military Cup, however, I've noticed that some of the names are mispelt on the official tournament website, so I was hoping you'd help me correct these. I've also added Sid Ahmed Aouedj's stats from the tournament and the gold medal award to the infox box. regards Wbel (talk) 21:55, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

yea, I fixed a few after I posted the message on your talk page. All of the names are mispelt on the official tournament website, was Riadh Moudjer at the tournament? as he's not listed on the official site. I also think there was a restriction of 20 players and not 21. regards Wbel (talk) 16:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about the late reply! I assumed the same thing (3 GK's), but if you have a look at the medallists, Moudjer is not on the list. I've also had a look at the football regulations of the tournament and they state you can have up to 21 players, however, the regulations maybe outdated as they're dated 01/01/2005. Regards 01:57, 5 June 2012 (UTC)Wbel (talk)

I too think its safe to assume that they failed to include his name in the squad, as their website is full of mistakes and on that note, no changes will be made.Wbel (talk) 18:46, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Arab names issue (again)

Hi Tony, hope you´re fine. Remember Mohamed El-Monir? Well, seems that this summer another Libyan footballer will be joining Serbian SuperLiga, more precisely Mohammad Za'abia will be joining FK Partizan. Now, the thing is that both players are Libyan and will be playing in the same league, thus it would be logical that both Mohamed´s have their name equally spelled. I will wait until Zaabia actually signs, as he still has 2 rounds in Kuwait League to play, but if he signs it would be good to consider changing in a way that both have the same spelling of the name, now, who better than you to suggest a solution to this :) FkpCascais (talk) 23:01, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

You leave me quite happy by saying that you saw him playing and that he is good, as I was a bit concerned about him... It all started 3 years ago while he was considered among the best Libyan young talents, and Partizan tried to bring him but for unknown reasons the transfer failed (seems Al Ittihad were asking a too high price and seemed overated at that time). Afterwords the issue died and other players were brought instead, while Zubya moved to Kuwait instead. Suddently at the end of this season Partizan coach Avram Grant who was preparing the team for Champions League qualificatons left Partizan, and the club seems to have entered into some finantial recession, so the president remembered Zubya who is having his contract expiring with Al Arabi this summer. The thing is that the fans are quite divided in a strange way: on one side there was the opposition to club president and also opposed Avram Grant who want to have more domestic players, while on the other there was much expectation that Grant could bring some serious players to the team, as he is close with Chelsea boss Abramovich... So, after the departure of Grant, Zubya was the first player to be announced while not even the new coach was appointed, and while on one side he doesn´t really fullfill the expectiation of neither side (ones want domestic players, while others want world class stars), Zubya seems to have been quite well accepted by now by both sides. He was already in Belgrade and he signed a pre-contract which is still held by a medical examination which will be done after his last league match in Kuwait.

Now, in the meantime I was quite silent with the deal (and I am usually quite loud over there giving opinions in several forums on this or other Partizan transfers:). The thing is that I am concerned about him having lost his place in the Libyan national team (he was not part of the squad at the last CAN, while even young innexperienced El Monir was), and also he didn´t scored that much goals neither in the NT neither for the club in Kuwait. He is also quite temperamental, and he had several incidents with referee´s recently, however being temperamental can also be a good thing. On the other side he is tall, strong, fast, good ball control, enough tecnique, young, and kind of reminds to Chammakh. Some people said that he could really explode in Partizan. Also, he said that he likes very much Serbia and that he really wants to come (probably because of the excellent relations Yugoslavia/Serbia allways had with Libya, first during the Non-Alligned Movement period, and more recently with the Milosevic-Ghaddafi good relations). I also saw some videos of him and he definitely convinced me, he seems like a real headacke to opponent defence´s. Now, I am much more relaxed now that you told me good about him. He is to come soon, and despte not being a signing asked by the new coach Vladimir Vermezovic (he just came from South African Kaizer Chiefs FC) seems that will be OK with him coming and he should pass the medical exams and the contract will become valid then. Regarding his name, yes, using the previous title sems fine, I know yu explained to me the issue of several spelling possibilities, but it is just that would seem logic to have 2 players with same name from same country playing in same league spelled in same way :) FkpCascais (talk) 04:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Islam Slimani

Hi, yes right I added place of born to Slimani, the source is here. --Faycal.09 (talk) 17:23, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Welcome, yes u right to add the categories, I forgot to add it. --Faycal.09 (talk) 18:11, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Luca Toni

Hi, I see that adding his Bayern Munich II match might be misleading, but (at least for players in the German league system which I mostly edit) matches for the reserve team are usually added if the team is professional (sometimes even if the reserve team not playing in a professional league). As you say plenty of first team regulars have matches with the reserves and until now I wouldn't have thought that they had left the first team (especially if they have played only a few matches for the reserves). Maybe we should ask at WP:FOOTY if adding matches for reserve teams generally gives a wrong impression.

As I understand it, the infobox should list all the apps and goals for the domestic league. This means for me for German domestic leagues the top three levels (which are professional). For some players the third level is the highest they ever play, so I think we agree that if a player was mainly playing for the reserves, matches should be counted. But then we have different standards for different players: The match of FC Bayern Munich II against Jahn Regensburg would count as match for Diego Contento (who was playing for the reserves at that time) but not for for Luca Toni and in my opinion this is not correct. --Jaellee (talk) 20:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I've put the question up at WT:FOOTY. Maybe there will be more responses this time.--Jaellee (talk) 18:46, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

• I've also left my input there, and re-replied after you mistook one sentence of mine for poor manners (my reputation i think). Cheers - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 22:21, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

And how about this one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Aaron2328)? Disgusting, thank god the "person"'s blocked! --Vasco Amaral (talk) 23:29, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:FOOTY

About this (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Warms_the_heart), i think you are 200% right, it does not belong at WP:FOOTY and it's not the first time i do it, i do like to share some of my thoughts on things but, as you put it (again, thumbs up), this is not a forum.

The part that baffled me a bit, however was "You want to add it to Vilfort's article, go ahead, no one's stopping you", since i know you're on good terms with me i have no problem with it, just found it a little strange, all i was saying is it was a new thing which was not in the player's article, if IT WAS, i would not have retrieved it because i would assume most people would already have come accross it. All in all don't worry, i won't do it again, from now on, only stuff that relates to the "commission". Cheers - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 18:35, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

• By the way, just did what i had to do instead of that foolish FOOTY approach, profitted from the source and went to Kim Vilfort's piece to try and improve it, i think it's neat. --Vasco Amaral (talk) 18:38, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

• You don't have to apologize for anything, and yes misunderstandings have happened and will happen, all the time between all the people. And didn't i say i agree with you 200%? --Vasco Amaral (talk) 13:51, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Union of Arab Football Associations

Hi, can you help me please, some user destroy my contribution in the article UAFA, u can see here. I send him a message in his talk page but he not answer me. I don't want to fight edit with him so I ask you for helping. Regards. --Faycal.09 (talk) 16:23, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, Finaly the problem was resolve, the user answer me and understand my contribution. Thank you. --Faycal.09 (talk) 17:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi thank you for your message, yes the problem was resolve. I will do if I need help thank you, you too u can contact me if u need help in french or arabic wikipedia. Take a care. --Faycal.09 (talk) 12:13, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

subject/headline

I see you have a big interest for Algerian football. can you write about Algeria here: Double (association football) It's about doubles in a country's league and cup. Thanks!! -Dzlinker (talk) 09:02, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Player stats

Hi kho thank y for your message, generaly i put stats in the player's articles, sometimes i don't put immediatly because no time and sometimes i put after a long time. I will try to see the recent player's move. Thank you and take a care too. --Faycal.09 (talk) 15:47, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

championnat dz et joueur , entraineur dz en arabe

salam tony;

si tu as un bon arabe , aide nous a améliorer la version arabe du la ligue 1 et 2 dz et les articles concernant les joueurs et entraîneurs dz . en plus en a une belle base de donnée celle de dzfoot.

merci — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diegolo (talk • contribs) 13:48, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

hi tony ; what about ligue 1 season's 2002-2003 to 2008-2009 ? can we do it me and you ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diegolo (talk • contribs) 20:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Jaime Linares - Reply

Hi there TONY, VASCO "here",

when you spoke about TRAFFIC ACCIDENT and BOAVISTA, i knew it had to be this stuff (please see here http://www.record.xl.pt/Futebol/interior.aspx?content_id=238647), even though JAIME's name did not ring a bell. I will improve the article's display later today.

Keep it up, regards - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 20:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

• I think only SANDRO played at amateur level, the others were full professionals, the most famous (other than BOSINGWA) being Nélson Marcos later of S.L. Benfica. Irony oh irony, the kid who got it worse was the one with the less economic resources, Sandro had to have his leg amputated :(

Cheers (am already working in LINARES' article, wait 30 minutes more or less then correct me if i made any "boo-boo")! --Vasco Amaral (talk) 21:13, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

• Did not make it to annoy you seriously, i thought there was a very good chance club was known by initials (and the club's WP article intro says just that, so if anything i was mislead!). --Vasco Amaral (talk) 22:20, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

• Yes mate, i understood you perfectly the first time, i meant "annoy" not because you also used that verb in your last message, i meant i did not want you to think i was deliberately trying to "go against the grain" after our conversations on Algerian clubs, i really thought writing CABBA in box was a good bet, i see it is not :( --Vasco Amaral (talk) 22:23, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Lemmouchia

lol, I know he didn't I just haven't got round to changing it. I wrote it when i thought he had, until I saw he hadn't on dzfootball.free. So him playing for the national team has no notability factor? Wbel (talk) 23:13, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't mind, I'm fine with both approaches. Wbel (talk) 12:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Arab Under 20 Cup awards

Hi,

Please can you translate this? It's for the 2012 Arab U-20 Championship award winners:

كما نال منتخب الجزائر كأس الأمير فيصل بن فهد (رحمه الله) للعب النظيف ونال لاعب منتخب ليبيا احمد محمد بشير كأس أحسن لاعب في البطولة، وسيف الدين الجزيري لاعب تونس كأس هداف البطولة، ومعاذ المنصوري حارس المنتخب الليبي كأس أحسن حارس مرمي في البطولة.[2] TheBigJagielka (talk) 12:35, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I've now added the information to the 2012 Arab U-20 Championship page. TheBigJagielka (talk) 20:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Fawzi Saadi

Hi Tony, is DZFoot regarded as a reliable source? His DZF page indicates he was with them in 04/05 but not in 05/06, whilst RSSSF is showing a 'Saadi' scoring for Belouizdad in 05/06 (15 Sep). Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 20:59, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for response, and for pointing out it was a different Saadi in Sep 2005. I assume he doesn't have a WP article? Fawzi did not play a Football League game for AFC Bournemouth [3] Eldumpo (talk) 21:28, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Rafik Halliche

Hi there TONY, how's it going?

Speaking of respect and compromise, yes i respect your approach as far as Algerian clubs go, you're the expert man. Now, please, bear with me in the opposite direction (Portuguese football), ACADÉMICA is enough in box, club's known that way in 99,999999% of the cases (no confusion there, we have ACADÉMICO DE VISEU as the closest thing).

Happy week, kind regards - --AL (talk) 16:14, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Re:El Jaish SC player

Hey :) I'm not quite sure about that player. I didn't even know he was Libyan until you told me. He played in more than one game last season, and scored at least one goal (although it was recorded as another player's goal). I also noticed that he is not on any football sites... El Jaish is secretive about most of their squad. I think he is a graduate of ASPIRE Academy (I could be wrong) and his name was spelled similar to "Dukali Al Sayed Dukali" on TV in a QSL match. I don't know if they added an extra Dukali by accident or not.

If it helps, his profile on KoraMania lists his name Al Dukali Sayed. It's the only site I could find which lists him. Try searching that name in Arabic? Gl. Elspamo4 (talk) 23:56, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

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2012–13 Algerian Ligue Professionnelle 1

salam tony;

la page de 2012–13 Algerian Ligue Professionnelle 1 lui manque le tableau de résultat et leader par journée et dernier par journée et aussi le tableau d’informations équipe comme la page française .

si tu peux ou tu veux on peut s'entraider et enrichir la page .

merci a bientôt . et en plus tu manque a dzfoot . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diegolo (talk • contribs) 11:59, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

2008-09 Algerian league

yea, its been a while lol. I'll see what I can do! Wbel (talk) 06:13, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

arbaa or larbaa

hey Tony, I wanted to know if RC Arbaa is the right name of the club or isit RC Larbaâ ??? Wbel (talk) 23:18, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

2012–13 Algerian Ligue Professionnelle 2

salam; on a une télépathie ou quoi ?

je me disait comment je peux avoir la liste des meilleurs buteurs de la ligue 2  et oups je jette un coup d'œil sur l'article de la ligue 2 et je le trouve et en plus il y a une page sur dzfoot, bravo.

merci — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diegolo (talk • contribs) 23:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Lebanese Governorates Division

Please can you verify the claim to notability you used to contest the PROD? GiantSnowman 10:15, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Proposition

Hi there TONY, AL "here",

i know that there is a preference (i don't know if i should call it consensus) on templates that makes people insert first the national team ones and then the club ones. I don't think it is correct, the club is the most important stuff in a player's career, the one who pays him amongst other things; plus, many many many players that have solid club careers don't even EVER represent the national team.

Since i have stopped participating at WP:FOOTY (am trying to mellow out, just can't seem to do it yet :(), could you bring this forth at the forum? Even if it is a rule, it can be altered no?

Attentively, keep up the good work - --AL (talk) 19:17, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Cheick Fantamady Diarra

Hi Tony, this article is not unreferences - see the bunch of ELs. I've re-tagged appropriately. GiantSnowman 20:45, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

If an article has sources as ELs to databases etc. then I never tag as unreferenced, always better to use {{BLP sources}} and {{inline}}. GiantSnowman 11:14, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Lampiões/Lampioes

The article was created (long time ago) with the purpose of hatred against Benfica and its supporters and then it became a redirection. Just because the page is old and wasn't removed before it doesn't mean that is ok. Please help me out so they can understand it. BenficaNNossaPaixao (talk) 14:21, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

7 July 2005 London bombings

Hi Tony. Thanks for the comments which make sense. Apologies for not replying sooner, Regards. --Flexdream (talk) 18:37, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Lekhwiya SC

I reverted it, just like I did with the Emir Cup because (of which i gave the reason) because Lekhwiya SC won the Crown Prince Cup and not the Emir Cup. Druryfire (talk) 12:06, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Ismael Blanco

Hi there TS, AL "here",

regarding your doubts about this player and his ethnicity, it might be plain VANDALISM. In Nélson Oliveira, a wise guy has been adding over and over again (as User:Zizozidan and anonymous) player is of Egyptian descent, which is 1500% FALSE.

I did not write it at WP:FOOTY because i thought you'd miss it, your question was asked almost three days ago. Happy week, keep it up - --AL (talk) 22:19, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

• Ah, many thanks for that post, interesting stuff. But i was correct, it was vandalism in Oliveira's case, it just did not happen here at WP, but elsewhere. You take care as well mate. --AL (talk) 13:42, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• No man, i did read your message thoroughly. I meant it was vandalism (or bad journalism, or whatever you want to call it) by someone OUTSIDE Wikipedia, then those actions "flooded" to the INSIDE of Wikipedia, resulting in a wrong article. Sorry for the misunderstanding. --AL (talk) 02:04, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

French language and Algeria

Hi, Tony!

I found your edit summary: "Arabic and Berber are official langauges of Algeria, French is not. We are on English Wikipedia. As such, there is no justification to include the French name of Algeria in intro or infobox."

Actually we've discussed this here on the Algeria talk page, here on the Algeria WikiProject page, and finally here at the NPOV noticeboard (also this is about a pagenotice). Despite the fact that French is unofficial, it is in de facto use by the government and has been extensively documented as an important language in Algerian society. According to NPOV, the question would be "is it important/widely spoken?" - I've documented a lot of research at Languages of Algeria and it's clear that despite the efforts of the Algerian government, French remains an important language in that country. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:17, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• Tony, firstly if you have a dispute it's best to leave the version with the consensus in and start a new discussion. I don't have a taste for edit wars and if somebody says "hey, there's a consensus for this!" and shows evidence the best thing to do is keep discussing and stop the edit warring.
• Secondly let's take a look at your edit summary - "when you add "Estados Unidos" to the USA article feel free to add French to Algeria. Again French is not an official language and the government has moved away from using it in official capacity. Arabic is the official language, Berber is the national one" - In fact the Algerian government officially says "French is not official" but in practice not all of the government departments have been Arabized. Several government departments still mainly use French, and provide Arabic translations. The research I did at Languages of Algeria says "Official documents of ministries which had not been affected partially or fully to Arabization are often written in French, and Arabic translations of these documents are provided when needed" (according to the Benrabah source). I am well aware of the political undercurrents of French vs. Arabic in Algeria.
  • About the United States: Yes, the government has services for Spanish speakers, but they don't use Spanish internally in the federal government. All federal government departments operate with English internally (and the U.S. has no official language). The Algerian government has some Arabized government ministries, but many are not Arabized and in reality use French. So the Algerian government still uses French, and the "non-official" status is a formality.
  • My text which sources Benrabah: ""Arabization is either complete or almost complete" in the Ministry of Justice, the Ministry of Religious Affairs and registry offices in Algerian town halls.[22] He also said that the Ministry of Education had been affected to a "lesser extent."" - So there are other ministries left which continue to use French.
• Also we have Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) which says "Relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted." - So that means we do not only list official languages.
• If you still disagree with including French, within 24 hours I am going to ask you to go on the NPOV noticeboard, make a new post, address Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard/Archive_39#Listing_languages_of_a_country_and_NPOV:_Algeria_and_the_French_language, and say why you think the NPOV solution is to exclude French. If not, I am going to do it for you. Thank you.
• WhisperToMe (talk) 00:15, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

It's been 24 hours. Since you didn't make the post, I made one at Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Languages_of_Algeria_and_point_of_view_.28part_2.29 - I invite you to join the discussion. Next time, please read previous discussions. If you have difficulty, ask for clarification. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:40, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

• Unfortunately nobody has yet answered the inquiry. In the meantime, would you please explain how your view of abolishing French complies with the NPOV view of listing languages? WhisperToMe (talk) 22:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Since there is no response I assume you agree with what I say. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
    • You said: "No, I don't agree with you what you say, I just don't have time for bureaucratic nonsense and discussions" - Tony, you are going to have to make a choice. Either participate in the "bureaucratic nonsense and discussions" or do not interfere in any edits that add French. There are many editors other than you, and the discussion process is how disagreements are resolved. If one chooses not to participate in the discussion process and edits against consensus, it may lead to the user's account being blocked. Also NPOV is a non-negotiable aspect and editing against the consensus of what the NPOV is and not explaining why you believe your position is NPOV may also lead to a block. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:35, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
      • Well, a requirement to edit Wikipedia is engaging in collaborative editing. Did you think you can get away with engaging in collaborative editing without participating in endless discussions? :) - And, look, I understand newbies find trouble with long talk page discussions. I understand this is a problem. However, Tony, you aren't a newbie so you should understand what I am saying, right? In other words "bureaucratic nonsense and discussions" is a fact of life on here. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
• I posted a report at Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Algeria - There is a place for your response. Please respond there. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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AN/I thread

Since 24 hours have passed, and I have received no response, I have started this AN/I thread. Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Failure_to_discuss_matter_related_to_Algeria.2C_leading_to_impasse WhisperToMe (talk) 17:43, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

discussion for deletion of squads

Here is discussion for deletion of some squads. Please attention!hoising (talk) 05:58, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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What other page moves have there been? I've had a quick look through his contribs and cannot see anything troubling. GiantSnowman 09:12, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Algerian footballer proposed deletion

Hello, long time no speak. Was going through unreferenced BLPs and came across Zoheir Messaoudi. Couldn't find any source for his playing in the Algerian pro leagues, so prodded him, but the problem may well be that I can't read Arabic. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:39, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

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Riyad Mahrez

Hi Tony, any reason why you deleted the Le Havre II entry from the infobox? GiantSnowman 09:28, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

But we don't exclude league stats from amateur leagues from the infobox if they can be reliably sourced. LHII played in the CFA which is, I believe, the top-level of amateur football in France. The stats are sourced to Soccerway - please do not delete sourced content again. If you need to, please re-raise the issue at WT:FOOTY but in the meantime I invite you to add the stats back. GiantSnowman 11:11, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

What consensus? He played for the club (LHII) in the national league system, it should be represented in the infobox. GiantSnowman 18:52, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I will repeat - what consensus? If you cannot provide any then I will re-add the stats back. GiantSnowman 13:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

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I have amended the lead slightly to reflect WP:OPENPARA. Struway gave a good explanation of a similar case here. cheers. LRD NO (talk) 16:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

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Riyad Mahrez (again)

He was born and raised in France, living there for over 20 years. He is only Algerian because one of his parents is from there and he chose to represent that nation at international level. I invite you to self-revert; if not I will raise the matter at WT:FOOTBALL (along with your pro-Algerian POV here). GiantSnowman 22:32, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Oh, and I removed the international goals cos you originally failed to properly reference it. GiantSnowman 22:37, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Adding info with an incorrect reference is just as bad as adding info with no reference - which violates WP:RS, WP:V, WP:BLP. The WP:BURDEN is on you to adequately source info, not others having to clean up after you. And yes I will be raising this at FOOTY. GiantSnowman 22:46, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Rabah Madjer

Hi there TS, longtime no "see" (this is user Always Learning, I asked that my account was vanished after a serious run-in with a troll with the intention of leaving forever, but guess I cannot, I'm hooked), all well?

I just had a hell of a lot of trouble cleaning up this player's article, hopefully you and WP will like it. However, I found a problem in his international goals chart: in the game against Senegal (28 August 1983), when we click in the match report of the 2-0 home win it leads you to the 1-1 away draw. I browsed DZFOOT.com to try and find the correct match report, and did, but cannot retrieve the actual url don't know why, only the site's address is available even when I click in the match (ARG 2-0 SEN).

Can you help out here, please? All the best, happy editing --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks", it has already been retrieved to article. What you suggested to me in terms of browsing is what I did, but could not find the url you now kindly sent me. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 15:29, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: JS Kabylie and CAF Super Cup

Hi my brother how are u ? On the contrary I removed the 1982 edition, u can see CAF SC here and JSK page here. But in the List of CAF Super Cup winners page I menshioned (* Does not include 1982, which is unofficial and not recognized by CAF.) on the bottom of the list so we need to remove it. Saha ramdanek. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 20:28, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

No problem dear freind.--Fayçal.09 (talk) 09:31, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

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Football discussion

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Rachid Aït-Atmane

Respect other people's work, please. This simple search has a LOT of articles who call him only RACHID. RESPECT, R-E-S-P-E-C-T other people's work. When he leaves Spain (and only WHEN), then you can call him whatever they'll call him in other countries. Until that, he's known as RACHID and will stay that way. MYS77 ^✉ 00:54, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Where's your goddamn sources, then? You didn't bring ANY! Sporting's official web, the search that I brought to you earlier, BDFutbol, Marca, Mundo Deportivo... ALL of them call "Ait-Atmane" only "Rachid". Accept the fact, instead of calling other people's hard work "biased". You edited the guy once or twice a year, while I was the one who bring all the info together. Show some respect, please. MYS77 ^✉ 01:28, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

(TPS)Hi, formerly known as AlwaysLearning here. Please people, be cool, no need for all this heat. Tony, I do see MYS's point, he has been playing more in Spain than in France so far, and they call him Rachid there. In all fairness, it's hard to choose a better "naming approach", as BRA/POR/SPA treat players by their first name more often than not, but MYS has provided several reliable sources has he not? I think an agreement can be reached by you two, wish you an amicable exchange of views.

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Valdo Filho

Hello again TS (AL "speaking),

I don't know if you do that on a regular basis, but it is wrong. What, you may ask? Valdo (in this case) does not merit the MC ALGER MANAGERS category or the club's squad template, as he was only assistant manager to Artur Jorge during his spell. That stuff is only for head coaches.

Attentively, regards from Portugal --84.90.219.128 (talk) 14:18, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

More now in Algerian football(ers): I am now working on the utter mess that is Sofyane Cherfa, and in his international career section, found two things I wish I would not have: 1 - the two DZFOOT refs are dead; 2 - a bit of that storyline said he was part of the Algerian squad at the 2008 Summer Olympics, a bit "difficult" as Algeria did not even participate in the tournament!

After I finish cleaning up the piece, do you think you can add something to his INT'L CAREER section. Please, do correct also if you need to. Thanks again, take care --84.90.219.128 (talk) 02:28, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, Algeria vs Mauritania in 2013 is not an official full FIFA international friendly it's a local A' match. Algeria played with all local based players. Please stop changing it ! I added links in the player's page. Regards. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 16:41, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Salam alikoum (hi), The match was a freindly game of Algeria A' (local team) to prepare the 2014 African Nations Championship qualification.These are two of many links to proove that the game is not a full A match[4][5]. Regards.

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Category:2011 African U-23 Championship players has been nominated for deletion

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Proposed deletion of Khalifa Ghedbane

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Welsh people of Tunisian descent

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Category:People from Ghardaïa has been nominated for merging

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