User talk:Tattoodwaitress/Archive1


Welcome!

Hello, Tattoodwaitress, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I replied again

Hi, I answered your question at Teahouse again. By the way, once you're done with these messages you can remove them by clicking edit, deleting the words, and re-saving, if you like.Tlqk56 (talk) 19:50, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Your visit to the Teahouse

Hi, Tattoodwaitress. Let me add my welcome and suggest you check a page made by Pluma for new editors. Click on Fun Stuff to find some things to pretty up your page. Take care, DocTree (talk) 21:53, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you all so much for the visits and friendly advice. Tattoodwaitress (talk) 00:45, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Help

Well Thank you so much Jack. Testing to see if I understood correctly.

When you said "or ask your question on THIS page and put the code for "help me" in front of it you meant THIS very page I am typing on? May seem like a really dumb question and maybe I am taking things too literally. I am very slow when it comes to this technical stuff but once I get it there will be no stopping me =)Tattoodwaitress (talk) 06:42, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Moved things in order; yes, on this page is fine (or an article's talk page if about the article, but that's more public). When starting new topics, such as this one, please use the 'New section' tab between 'Edit' and 'View history', which will automatically place it at the bottom where it is supposed to go to keep things in order (except special project pages which specify alphabetical or top). Dru of Id (talk) 07:27, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes - it does mean on this page. The help request has been answered by Dru of Id before I could get to it. At the moment I am 'watching' your user talk page (See Help:Watching pages), so I will pick up any further message from you, but maybe not very speedily. It's really worthwhile reading through some of the pages linked to in my original 'Welcome' message. Enjoy your editing. --Greenmaven (talk) 08:39, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm afraid not; I've often wanted to correct my misspellings I didn't notice beforehand. If you want, you can go to 'My preferences' in the uppermost row, 'Editing', and check Advanced option 'Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary'. Dru of Id (talk) 00:44, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

New User Page

Based on your comment at Teahouse, I have slightly changed your Userpage. Tell me how it looks now ? All I did was add a {{New user bar}} to the top of it. feel free to remove it in case you dont like it. :) --ÐℬigXЯaɣ 14:42, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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  Hi Tattoodwaitress! Great work with persevering through the world of Wikipedia. You're contributions are so important! I figure a little Teahouse cookie delivery was in order :) Enjoy. Sarah (talk) 02:58, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

How cute, thanks for the cookie. I was in need of a bedtime snack =) Tattoodwaitress (talk) 03:07, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback

 
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ÐℬigXЯaɣ 06:07, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


Some stroopwafels for you!

  Im very sorry for for this edit..it was done unintentionally and in good faith.I was trying to remove an unnecessary dialogue but I didn't notice that the whole bar was gone ƬheⱾtrikeҾagle 13:30, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Hmmmm, I thank you for letting me know about the error. I would have never known as it looks the same to me, I think anyway, I am very new at this and wonder if you might tell me did you correct it after the error or am I not seeing what happened? Tattoodwaitress (talk) 14:14, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

I mistakenly removed the whole userbar and newpage template.........and didn't realize the mistake until I was told my DBigXray a while ago..I was actually trying to remove the Click here to add an image of yourself dialogue as you already had an image..but....removed the whole template...  ƬheⱾtrikeҾagle 14:21, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh but it is back the way it was so you fixed it, Thank you for fixing. Tattoodwaitress (talk) 14:27, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

No...I didn't fix it...I think it was you who re-added it...  btw.. talkback nolonger needed.I have been watching ur page since 2 days..  ƬheⱾtrikeҾagle 14:33, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Ahhh nice and thank you.. don't remember fixing but I guess maybe I did. And no more talkback notices... I kinda needed the practice using the template but think I got it now. I am glad you are watching I need all the help I can get.  Tattoodwaitress (talk) 14:39, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

  BTW..do you use..TWINKLE?if you dont....install it..it makes Talkbacks ridiculously easier....and has many other uses. ƬheⱾtrikeҾagle 14:42, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

No I don't know what it is but I will check it out. I am enjoying browsing around, but anything that makes this easier is more than welcomed. I am trying to figure out how to make a cool signature like you guys got, and also how to divide pages in two like have columns? I tried the table insert but its not working how I like so onward with education. I am really familiar with and know how to write my own html code for websites (which is helping a lot) so I have been checking out the text in other peoples posts to learn a little something. I will get better day by day. Thanks againg strikeeagle.... Ta Ta for now busy day ahead. --Tattoodwaitress (talk) 14:50, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Glad to hear you know HTML, This will surely make your life much comfortable here on Wiki :) As my friend Strike has already told you about TWINKLE, I thought of adding my word about it. First of all (although I use it myself) I will "not" recommend you to use it right away (as you are new here). Its better to spend some time here, learn how to handle stuff and the policies of course. After a week or a month (whenever you are comfortable and would not mind experimenting something new), you can start using Twinkle. Its an extremely useful tool, (specially for the Talkbacks ;) ) and whole bunch of other uses. --ÐℬigXЯaɣ 19:15, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
DBX explained everything about Twinkle..and about Signatures....if you donot wish to write the whole code again..you may take one's sign as base and modify it.see my sandbox so that you might get an idea....... .....I tried many variations before getting this one...  ƬheⱾtrikeҾagle 08:27, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing your sandbox... I like the ideas. Tattoodwaitress (talk) 10:09, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Getting back to you...

Hi, Tatooed! Sorry it's taken me so long to reply to your message on my talk page. My laptop charger died and my battery ran down and it took me a few days to have time to drive into the big city to replace it. I just got up and running about an hour ago.

Anyway, you did fine leaving me your message. There are two ways for you to get my reply. I can come here and leave if for you, as I am doing. Or you can "watch" my talk page by clicking on the little star toward the top of the page. There is one at the top of pretty much every Wikipedia page. If it's white it means you are not "watching" that page. If it's blue, then you have added it to your watch list. Do you know how your watch list works? If not, just let me know, I'll be happy to explain it. Some people have a message at the top of their talk page that tells you where they will reply. Most don't -- and they'll usually come to your page to answer, as I am now. But if I'm not sure I always "watch" their page for a while to be certain.

For Teahouse replies, people who use the template with the pretty picture and all -- you can just click on it (I think on the blue words, if I remember right) and it will take you to the right spot. (Any time words are in blue it's a Wikilink and clicking on it should take you to the related page). Computer challenged people like me who haven't figured the template out yet mean you have to do what you did -- go to the page yourself. Once on the page you can look at the Contents box on the right hand side, and if you remember the title of your message you can click on it to save a little scrolling.

Again, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. Just unfortunate timing. I'm more than happy to be your talk page guinea pig, :), and if I can help in any other way, just let me know. Have fun!Tlqk56 (talk) 03:42, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Archiving your page

Hi.....instead of deleting old messages....you could Archive them....that might be useful for your future reference.. ..if interested..I could set the options so that your page will be archived.. ƬheⱾtrikeҾagle 09:46, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh that would be awesome if you could help me with that. My memory is not so good sometimes and all the help I have gotten in the past few days I want to save until I have saved them to memory before deleting them for good. Archiving would be better. Thank you so much for suggesting I did not know I could do that. Tattoodwaitress (talk) 09:49, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I think I messed something up when I did what I did because the content box is gone now too. I thought it would reappear when somebody left a message but it did not ... oops Tattoodwaitress (talk) 09:51, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Content box appears when there are..I believe...3 or more messages....I'm not exactly sure though.... 
Archive options fixed...it archives any post that is more than 3 days(72hrs) old......I installed Cluebot III bot because I and DBX use the same...  ƬheⱾtrikeҾagle 09:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

New Changes

You ROCK, thank you thank you

Tattoodwaitress (talk) 09:57, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

  • just a note. parameter |age=72 means 72 hours, so any thread that remains un answered for more than 72 hours will be moved to archive you can also change it to 240 if you only want to archive stuff that are 10 days (240 hrs) old. I have re added content here, SO that it will be properly archived, the bot will come in 2-3 days. Also check out your user page now :) --ÐℬigXЯaɣ 11:08, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Wow I really like what you did. Really nice. Thanks a bunch!! Tattoodwaitress (talk) 15:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I've replied

See, now I can do it, too. :)

 
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Adding a photo

Are you trying to add a photo to a page? I don't mean to butt in, however, if you are having trouble, I have a handy template I use: [File:file name goes here.jpg|thumb|200px|alt=Description for those who can't see or can't get pictures.|Caption here] Just put it between two brackets instead of one as I did. This will post to the right hand side of the page. Insert the word left between the pipes after thumb |left| to make it go on the left. Play around with the size if you want. I copied this from someone else's page, but there's a good explanation here, too: Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. Please excuse this if you don't need it. I have it saved so I don't have to remember the syntax. Tlqk56 (talk) 20:18, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes I was trying to add a photo.. I did the upload but then couldn't figure out how to add it. I figure when I try to write an article one day I will need to know how to do that. I will take a look at the info you left here and see if that will help. If I can't figure it out with what you left I will let you know or put out a help "ticket" for all of wiki... Thanks a bunch for your support.Tattoodwaitress (talk) 02:38, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Adding photos other places besides the info box in articles is one of my newer skills. I'm glad to help out any way I can. DocTree got me started. The steps he posted on my talk page have been very helpful, too.Tlqk56 (talk) 03:20, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Adding reference on wiki articles

 
Just follow the steps 1, 2 and 3 as shown and fill in the details

Hello Tattoodwaitress! Please do not forget to add references for the content you add to Wikipedia. Adding a well formatted references is very easy to do.

  1. While editing any article or a wikipage, on the top of the edit window you will see a toolbar which says "cite" click on it
  2. Then click on "templates",
  3. Choose the most appropriate template and fill as many details as you can,

This will add a well formatted reference that would be helpful in case the website link (web URL) becomes inactive (dead/link rot) after some time. thanks and regards --ÐℬigXЯaɣ 15:05, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

That looks very informative and I thank you. If you come back and read this message then my talkback template may have worked. I assume I need to leave this reply here and then complete the talkback template. Some of the instructions on how to do things are just so confusing. Tattoodwaitress (talk) 05:56, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Took two attempts but I got the talkback thing right I think anyway... Nice.Tattoodwaitress (talk) 06:09, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Yes, congrats you learnt how to place a talkback.   . I know its not very easy in the beginning, but in a few days you will get a hold of all this. Even i was confused about the talkback in my earlier days. --ÐℬigXЯaɣ 06:27, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Good morning, I am wondering if you might check my last edits to the Kidnapping of Colleen Stan and let me know if those are acceptable. I used the cite link you told me about. I didn't understand what 2 of the categories were but filled it out the best I could. Thanks, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Colleen_Stan Tattoodwaitress (talk) 14:26, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Looks great good to see that you have correctly placed a well formatted citation :) . I have made a small change I believe CBS News is a news website so the News template was more appropriate, also I have moved the ref at the end of the sentence, as its advisable to keeps the citations at the end unless we have a special reson to keep it in the middle.--ÐℬigXЯaɣ 15:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

When using the cite template what is the ref name and ref group supposed to be for? Tattoodwaitress (talk) 23:44, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much Tattoodwaitress (talk) 06:56, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

"Adopted" an article

I have "adopted" an article to clean up and edit. . i guess it will be my pet project. I am really really new to Wiki and researched this case after watching a documentary on TV about Colleen Stan, and found my way to the wiki article. It's actually the reason I finally did it, started editing. YAY! I hope to add as many ref's and cite's to it as I can, along with some additional verifiable information. Maybe when I feel adequate enough at editing and writing here I can get a page going for Colleen (in response to an earlier post on the talk page of the same article). I changed a couple things today but still don't feel real confident that I am doing it right. Especially filling out the cite template and understanding the difference between the different types of references, I have read the helps and referred to them while editing but I am a hands on kind of girl. Anyone who gets a chance to look at my edits please please feel free to comment on them so that I may be able to learn and get better at this. Thanks a bunch. Tattoodwaitress (talk) 02:50, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tattoodwaitress. Nice to meet you (digitally so to speak:-) You're doing fine. I do have a couple of minor notes and one more substantive. First, ref tags get snugged up right against what you are referencing—so it's: Text<ref>citation</ref>, not Text <ref>citation</ref> The second minor issue is that the citation always go outside of any punctuation, such as a period or comma. So it's: Text.<ref>citation</ref> not Text<ref>citation</ref>. More importantly, we strive to only cite reliable sources and blog posts and things of that nature are not useful. In addition to the last link, please see WP:SELFPUBLISH. I am mentioning this because because some of the sources you've used, such as the Wordpress article, are self-published material. If you're not familiar with it, Googlae provides a book search and a news archive search; I would go there first, do not pass go, before ever trying to do a web search. See this search and this search. Lastly, if you want to fix something glaring about the article, check out our guideline on lead sections of articles. The lead section is supposed to be a summary of the body, hitting on the major points of the article. The article would definitely be improved if you wrote one. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:02, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I went back to fix the things you were talking about and it looks like you have already done it. Thanks again for your help. Tattoodwaitress (talk) 04:14, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

 
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Web searches

Notes to self. Saving information someone else gave to me: Hello again, re: those links for searches that you shared with me, specifically the sac bee ones, when you go to them they are not complete articles because you have to purchase them to see the full article. Are you telling me that its okay to link to information like those as long as you are pointing to them for the information they are showing and not assuming anything about the remainder of the article? And as far as the books go, most books you find might show a few pages but not the entire book. Do editors here use that kind of references too?

When I am researching a subject that has lots of sources available, I usually only look at the news articles and books that provide "full view", at least at first. But I think you may be under the misimpression that everything you cite is required to be online, which is why you're balking at using information provided in an article or book where you can't read the whole thing and provide a link to the whole thing. If I have a book in my hand that's not available at all online, it is perfectly fine to cite that source—many of the most reliable sources in fact are not online. Please see WP:SOURCEACCESS. You might also mosey over to WP:Featured articles and look at a bunch, not only because its' educational to see what we consider our best work, and many are wonderful, but because numerous ones are based on a mix of sources available and unavailable online but some are made up entirely of citations to books and the like that are offline only. So, if I can see half of a newspaper article or page from a book (i.e., Google Books' and News Archive' "snippet view") and it has information I want to cite, I sure can use it and cite to that source because I've seen it, even if not the whole thing. But again, It's just easier to first look at all the full view search results first. Now, say you come across an article that appears really useful from what little you see, but you want to see the rest. You can go over to WP:RX and request someone who has free access to provide you a copy of the article (obviously, this doesn't work so well for books). Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:24, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
P.S., Google new and books are a good place to start but there are lots of other places to get sources online, for example 19,648,000 Old New York State Historical Newspaper Pages free and full view (thouhg I ust ran a search there and found nothing on Colleen Stan). If you run into a dead end, I have access to a subscription service that provides over a billion newspaper articles (newspaperarchive.com) and may be able to email you the pdfs of some of the ones you find on Google News that you can't access in full.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:35, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I've replied to your last post on my talk page:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

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testing

Ț♥ttØØdẄ♥itre§ 22:25, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

ȚttØØditre§ 22:25, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I searched for help with the citation needed tag

I only found one ref to help with the removal of the citation needed tag and only found one link that really did not fit what my question is. I edited this article by adding a citation however not sure if I should have deleted the citation needed tag or not. There is lots of help on how to create a ref or citation but not when or if one should be deleted. Please advise Tattoodwaitress (talk) 02:47, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

  • I have seen your edit on the above article, looks fine. If you have found citation for the said incident, that verifies the claims that are preceded by the [citation needed] tags, then its correct to remove the citation tags. For example if the statement says "A, B leading to C[citation needed]" and you get a citation for A and C but not for B then its good to move the Cn tags close to B so that it reads "A, B[citation needed] leading to C[1]" so that someone can check for B and if unable to find can remove B as its unverified.
  1. ^ The reference for the content
  • When in doubt use common sense :) and of course you can always ask quuestions dont forget to use the {{helpme}} to get quick assistance if needed.
  • I see that the archive system is working properly, you can tweak the age of archive based on your choice right now its set for 3 days (i.e. 72 hrs} regards--DℬigXray 22:38, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

thank you that answered my question PERFECTLY!! ȚttØØditre§ 19:34, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

you may also take a peek at WP:NOCITE to read the policy to handle [citation needed] tags.
Great   did you look around your archives in the box on top ? there is a search box along with an Index for your section headings to help you quickly locate your old talks. I hope this is better than moving manually to the sandbox. regards--DℬigXray 19:46, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes and thank you, I actually have to go and delete all that from my sandbox cuz it was moved back here and I believe is archiving correctly. Not sure but I think something wrong with my sig because the link to the talk page not working here. Maybe because this is on the talk page. I will have to check it on another page I suppose. --ȚttØØditre§ 19:50, 11 June 2012 (UTC) Oh yes that was it. Works on other pages just fine. ȚttØØditre§ 19:55, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes it wont work here. In fact is for all the pages on wikipedia, if you have a link that points to the same page then that link will be disabled. so the link to your talk page will be disabled on your talk page but it works well on my talk page,--DℬigXray 19:59, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Painting with coffee

Wow! That is really cool and the painting is awesome! Thanks for sharing it :) Ryan Vesey Review me! 02:21, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you both ȚttØØditre§ 19:30, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback: Some extra tips on missing ISBNs

 
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In response to your feedback

They are synonyms for the same thing: putting information about a source into an article. Referencing for beginners may help.

David1217 05:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so very much Tattoodwaitress (talk) 05:52, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

 

You're very welcome—I love helping out new editors (because I remember being one). Happy editing! David1217 05:56, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
They are used sometimes used synonymously but being pedantic, a citation is the mechanism for providing attribution, while "reference" (or "source") is the thing being cited. So a citation would be: <ref>The New York Times</ref> and the reference or source is The New York Times, that's being cited.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:23, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Not real sure if you are the one who left the guideline template but thank you. Just now getting back to you. . . was scrolling and noticed I missed this message. Sometimes it tells me I have one and then I can't find it. I think I am getting it now. =) ȚttØØditre§ 03:10, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Twasn't me but I'll take the thanks. The first few months here, especially for someone who is interested, can be mind blowing because there is really so much to know (and do), and Wikipedia is truly vast. But after you study and memorize each of the guidelines in the template next door (a pop quiz will be given), you can study Help:edit summary and WP:DIFF to learn how to find out who placed what (see also Wikipedia:WikiBlame). Here's the diff of the placement of the template. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:25, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Short Wiki Tutorial

Hi TW, I am glad to see your user page and talk page have improved a lot. I am not sure if you have seen this or not, but WP:Tutorial is a nice and short tutorial to understand editing on wiki. Please give it a look as it will surely help you. APart from this i have added a sidebar {{guideline list}}, which enumerates a the guidelines to be aware of, you can read them one by one whenever you have time. Hope you will enjoy editing here. --DℬigXray 16:59, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Ahhh, it was you. I was trying to figure out who left that for me. Sometimes it says I have messages then I can't find them. Very cool I like that. You have been a big help to me and I appreciate it. =)ȚttØØditre§ 03:15, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Glad to be able to help you :). I had to place the template a little above so that it does not leave empty space below it. as fogetaboutit has already mentioned, edit summary and View history is a good way to find out difference. Also whenever you get the big yellow bar of new message, try clicking the (last change) link, that will show you the last addition donr to your page, and then you can click the previous edit to show the previous change --DℬigXray 08:44, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Looking Good!

I love you user page -- it looks so awesome! You really are a computer whiz, and have an artistic eye as well. The coffee painting is wonderful. Is it one of your grandkids? Tlqk56 (talk) 17:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the compliment.... graciously accepted. The little one is my grandson and the older boy is my youngest son who is 15 (I think he was 13 in the pic). ȚttØØditre§ 18:20, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
You have a true gift. My grandmother had a masters degree in art, and my home is filled with her paintings. Alas, I don't have much talent in that area and never really worked to develop what I might have, but she taught me to appreciate it when I see it. Tlqk56 (talk) 18:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Lending a hand

(Whoops, I answered here. Sorry, I'm not always good at following directions. LOL) I'd love to lend a hand. At some point I'll need somebody to look at some of the things I'm working on, too. Maybe we can help each other out, as time allows. :) I had to smile when you asked if I jump around when I'm working on articles. I sure do -- right now I'm trying to gather info for one, but I have three open and I keep adding a bit here and a piece there. And sometimes I sit down and say "I'm going to do... and end up doing everything but that. I suspect you'll find your own style, I think I'm just beginning to after about three months.

As for getting the name changed, I've heard that's really hard, but with a consensus of some sort you can make a redirect. Sarah talked a bit about that here: Teahouse question. I've done redirects, but only for obvious things like leaving out someone's middle name. The page titles didn't change.

Looking at the history, nobody's done anything with it since 2008, so I doubt anyone will object to your changes, but it's always good to leave a message on the Talk page. So, where would you like to start? Do you think you'll be adding a lot of info, and reorganizing it? Or is it more a matter of adding things here and there? I asked because I've learned not to spend a lot of time tweaking an article I ended up re-writing totally.

Here's what I do on a big project. I start a "notebook" off Wikipedia, on my computer. (I use Microsoft Onenote.) I have pages where I just save every http: reference I find with a note about what I might use. I pile my books and papers around me, and start dividing the info I find into categories. I keep at that until I think I've got most of my info found and in the right section. Then I start writing one section at a time. But it rarely works that neatly, as I said before. LOL

Maybe if you decide where you think you want to start we can get a plan and divide the work. Clearly you have the expertise, but I'm a writer and can do some copy editing and organizing, etc. What ever you need. Sorry this turned out to be so long. I'll be glad to help any way I can! Tlqk56 (talk) 02:40, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

LOL... I tend to think we must be a lot alike cuz when I was done writing to you I thought to myself Geeze girl you took a lot of words to say just about nothin'.. Haa... I'm not real good at following directions either you will see. I forget a lot =). Well as far as the article I definitely would like to expand and add to it a great deal. There is so much information on the subject, and working in the drug and alcohol field myself I know right off hand the article touches on just a tiny bit of it. I actually did leave a note on the talk page but because I am so impatient sometimes I just had to go see you in a big fat hurry. Thanks for responding so quickly. It would be great to work together. I want to add more about how the idea came about including the tie in to the war and there should be a section about tolerance and why its important... it touches on it but uses different wording "Such a dose would likely not be tolerated by an opioid-naive individual" Lol I had to laugh. Lovingly of course. Ok I will figure out a strategy of some kind. I am glad I am not the only who gets sidetracked. Won't have to worry about that again. Thank you my new friend ȚttØØditre§ 02:55, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Hey, I love words, that's why I use so many of them. :) One thing I will say I've learned. Even when I'm jumping around a lot, (or maybe because...) I try to never leave any bit of info without footnoting it. That's because I think I'll come right back, but by the time I do I have to spend lots of time looking up where that bit of info came from. Such a time waster. So I footnote everything! Have fun and get back to me whenever you're ready. Tlqk56 (talk) 03:03, 13 June 2012 (UTC)r

The Tea Leaf - Issue Four

Hi! Welcome to the fourth issue of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter for the Teahouse!

  • Teahouse pilot wraps up after 13 weeks After being piloted on English Wikipedia starting in February, the Teahouse wrapped up its pilot period on May 27, 2012. We expect this is just the beginning for the Teahouse and hope the project will continue to grow in the months to come!

Thank you and congratulations to all of the community members who participated - and continue to participate!

  • What you've all been waiting for: Teahouse Pilot Report is released! We look forward to your feedback on the methodology and outcomes of this pilot project.
  • ....and if a pilot report wasn't enough, the Teahouse Pilot Metrics Report is out too! Dive into the numbers and survey results to learn about the impact the Teahouse has made on English Wikipedia.
  • Teahouse shows positive impact on new editor retention and engagement
 
  • 409 new editors participated during the entire pilot period, with about 40 new editors participating in the Teahouse per week.
  • Two weeks after participating, 33% of Teahouse guests are still active on Wikipedia, as opposed to 11% of a similar control group.
  • New editors who participated in the Teahouse edit 10x the number of articles, make 7x more global edits, and 2x as much of their content survives on Wikipedia compared to the control group.
  • Women participate in the Teahouse 28% of Teahouse participants were women, up from 9% of editors on Wikipedia in general, good news for this project which aimed to have impact on the gender gap too - but still lots to be done here!
  • New opportunities await for the Teahouse in phase two as the Teahouse team and Wikipedia community examine ways to improve, scale, and sustain the project. Opportunities for future work include:
  • Automating or semi-automating systems such as invites, metrics and archiving
  • Experimenting with more ways for new editors to discover the Teahouse
  • Building out the social and peer-to-peer aspects further, including exploring ways to make answering questions easier, creating more ways for new editors to help each other and for all participants to acknowledge each other's efforts
  • Growing volunteer capacity, continuing to transfer Teahouse administration tasks to volunteers whenever possible, and looking for new ways to make maintenance and participation easier for everyone.
  • Want to know how you can lend a hand at the Teahouse? Become a host! Learn more about what makes the Teahouse different than other help spaces on Wikipedia and see how you can help new editors by visiting here.
  • Say hello to the new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, as being welcomed by experienced editors is really encouraging to new Wikipedians.

You are receiving The Tea Leaf after expressing interest or participating in the Teahouse! To remove yourself from receiving future newsletters, please remove your username here. Sarah (talk) 17:07, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you ȚttØØditre§ 17:36, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Answers to Questions on your User page

Q. T.W. is wondering how to get the name of an article changed, and if it is even possible to do that.

Ans. Wikipedia:Moving a page

Q2 Also researching how project pages are started.

Ans, Wikipedia:WikiProject, Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals, Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide

Hope the pages i have linked answers your questions   --DℬigXray 22:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh hey thanks XRay... hope you dont mind if I call you that... once again you are on top of it.   You are an extremely helpful individual.   ȚttØØditre§ 05:35, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Thats ok, apart from my full name people use DB, DBig, Xray, DBX, DBXR and there is no reason for me to dislike any of them :) , glad to help you out here feel free to ask me. Be sure before renaming that the name you are thinking, follows the WP:Article titles. If the title you are thinking does not follow the renaming policies, but still is a valid title for the above content then you can create a wp:REDIRECT with that title name to link it to the page without renaming it. I have also answered your question on my talk page. --DℬigXray 06:28, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Oh gosh I would not feel right renaming unless I had one of you "higher ups" give me the thumbs up. I was wondering if I had to get permission or something or if there is a special place where you put it up for a vote or something like that. I shall tell you the page that I think would be better named maybe you could take a look and let me know what you think or not, totally up to you. I plan on spending some time on the article so of course no hurry looks like its been sitting for quite sometime anyway. I will also go to your page and read the answer you left there I prob should have done it before replying here but, well I didn't. LOL. Anyway the page is Methadone maintenance and I would love to have it named Methadone Maintenance Treatment (MMT). Thanks again ȚttØØditre§ 06:40, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
oh I am not a higher up, just one of those overenthusiastic editors who like to help new editors. :) There is a place indeed where you ask for special rights WP:RFP but its result is decided by the admins. I saw the page Methadone maintenance, although I admit that i do not have much knowledge in the field where you an expert but looking at the google search results, Methadone maintenance treatment indeed appears to be a better title with redirects Methadone Maintenance Treatment (MMT),Methadone maintenance therapy , and Methadone Maintenance--DℬigXray 07:26, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) If you want to get other editors' opinions on moving a page, you could try requested moves. Happy editing! David1217 15:22, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

In response to your feedback

That's good to hear. There's lots of opportunities to practice writing on Wikipedia. Do you know about the Guild of Copy Editors? They are a group of people on Wikipedia who spend their time handling copy editing tasks on articles. The GOCE page has a lot of links to resources to improve your writing on Wikipedia.

Tom Morris (talk) 07:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

 

Help

I would like to add a header exclusion on this page for the cluebot. I do not want to archive anything on the left side of this page but I am not understanding how to add the exclusion. I have the header ==Did you know?== like that, and i guess they call that a level 2? How would I have to do it in order to keep in unarchived? I didn't realize that there were different heading levels until looking for this. Thanks in advance for your aid. ȚttØØditre§ 17:53, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. Any posts without a time stamp should not be archived. If it it, contact me and I can rectify it. Mdann52 (talk) 17:56, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Oh wow, ok thank you for coming so quickly, enjoy the rest of your day!

~~~ has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:User:Cowman109/Smile2}} or {{subst:User:Cowman109/Smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

ȚttØØditre§ 17:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Somehow I messed something up here... no time to fix will do it later. ȚttØØditre§ 18:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much ȚttØØditre§ 18:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

testing ȚttØØditre§ 18:38, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Cite Web

RE: the cite tab and the the "template" for web, while in edit mode for an article. Filling out the form. There are options one of them being "work" what does that mean? I have tried searching for the info myself and haven't had luck finding EXACTLY what that means. It shows examples but I am guessing work is kinda like the title. Could you share the link that would explain exactly what work means? I know I have asked about this same topic before so I apologize for repeating myself. ȚttØØditre§ 02:20, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Here's an example, which may help:
{{cite web | url=http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/13227028-418/fighter-jet-escorts-plane-away-from-chicago-airspace.html | title=Fighter jet escorts plane away from Chicago airspace | first=James | last=Scalzitti | work=[[Chicago Sun-Times]] | publisher=[[Sun-Times Media Group]] | accessdate=16 June 2012 | date=16 June 2012}}
produces:
Scalzitti, James (16 June 2012). "Fighter jet escorts plane away from Chicago airspace". Chicago Sun-Times. Sun-Times Media Group. Retrieved 16 June 2012.
So, work is the name of the publication (newspaper, Web site, blog, or whatever) and title is the name of the article/story. DoriTalkContribs 04:10, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
This screencast walks through how to use the various features of RefTools. including Cite Web and "work"
  • If you hover around the small question mark where "work" is written in the toolbar template, then it explains Work as "What larger work this is a part of" eg, the article titled "a soldier's death in Afghanistan" can be a title of the series on "Afghan War" or a similar series run by the website.
  • link is here Template:Cite web or you can see the video that i have added --DBigXray 07:43, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Explore your toolbar

 
you can use the advanced button to add table

yeah used the table, from the advanced section of toolbar. You can explore your toolbar in your sandbox. learn more here on Help:Edit_toolbar cheers--DBigXray 07:23, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Also modified the smile you gave me as it said " Hello DBigXray, DBigXray has smiled at you! "  :)
using {{subst:Smile}} is the right way to smile --DBigXray 07:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Just a thought...

Hi! My daughter and I were out today, (she's a nurse, BTW), and we talked a bit about WP. She confessed that she hates looking something up on WP and finding it goes on for "pages and pages" when all she wanted was an overview, and I said I hate it when the lead is so long I can't see the Table of Contents on the opening screen, because it means this article will be really long. We both agreed we'd rather see a shorter article that sends us to other articles for more details. Of course, that's just us. But I throw it out to you to consider or ignore -- perhaps you might want to consider how to make one introductory article and spin others off of it. Just one more thing to confuse you. :) Hope you are doing well. Tlqk56 (talk) 22:39, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

http://simple.wikipedia.org has been made probably for the above reason. Please check it out. --DBigXray 23:04, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Ha-ha! I'm not sure I'll tell my daughter, who speaks and reads Japanese and Arabic and has three degrees, that someone recommended simpleWikipedia. Long sentences and big words are NOT the problem -- just TMI for folks who just want an intro. LOL Tlqk56 (talk) 01:23, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
:) In my opinion issues such as TMI are clearly addressed over there as it indeed contains a short overview. I dont think a suggestion to check out simple.wiki has anything to do with khowing japanese or arabic. --DBigXray 05:46, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I was being a bit silly, definitely didn't mean to offend. I've seen the Simple WP page and it looks to me like it's for those with lower reading levels, so I jumped to a conclusion about your meaning. As we've never communicated directly, I'm especially sorry if I came across wrong. Please put it down to bad timing and a head ache on my part, and forgive me any offense. Tlqk56 (talk) 15:31, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Thats ok, no offence taken. Perhaps you missed the smiley face at the start of my comment above. Although the home page at http://simple.wikipedia.org states that , but if you look at the articles they are indeed the way you were asking for. By the way which articles at simple wiki did you look at ?--DBigXray 16:24, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I did miss the smiley. :( I just looked at the opening simpleWP page, and as a teacher, the instructions on how to write for it all scream "simplified readability" to me -- and there's nothing wrong with that. It's wrong to assume the whole English reading world is at the same level of readability, I think it sounds like a good project, I might even mosey over there some day and try my hand at converting some articles. For TW I was just more concerned that the project gets so big it overwhelms her and she never starts. The purpose isn't to create the perfect article, but to make it better than it is now, which I'm sure she can do. Then she can keep adding to it if she wants. (Like the way I'm talking about you on your own page, TW?)<grin> Tlqk56 (talk) 16:31, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
The mainpage notice looks embarassing to the reader agreed. But the articles inside simple wiki are not written as if expected to be read by school kids. Thats why I asked which articles did you see ? for example you can check the Mohammad article on en wiki and simple wiki and then i would like to hear your opinion.  --DBigXray 16:43, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Hmmmm, i will check it out. good thought ... i am appreciative of any ideas. thanks to you both. ȚttØØditre§ 03:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

This might be helpful

Do have a look here, You will surely learn some more things. --DBigXray 06:23, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh wow thanks so much.. I have been so busy lately and suffering with migraines but will check this out as soon as life settles down and the headache goes away. I so appreciate the links to tutorials as seeing the "how to's" in print really help. ȚttØØditre§ 17:24, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

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A kitten for you!

 

I love how you put so much character into everything you do! Take care!

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Oh wow, that is so sweet of you... Thanks so much!!ȚttØØditre§ 03:03, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Help

{{help me}} I am one of those people who can't stand it when things are not uniform and precise (trust me when I say I am working on that).

It is bugging me that my archive box is in a weird spot and I do not know how to center my user boxes. Is there a way to do this? Also is there a place that I may find instruction on how to do all these kinds of things? AND one more question. . . if I want to add a smile without that big box and lots of words that ends up in between what I am writing is that possible as well? I just wanted to add a smiley face for fun without the huge interruption or do I have to use the smiley template is my question. Thanks in advance for your help. ȚttØØditre§ 04:10, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

I am working on the questions in the rest of your post. Meanwhile look in edit mode to see how I added these.                .--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:43, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I have centered your userboxes by surrounding the code that places them with center tags: <center>something</center> I can't help with the archive box because it looks fine to me so I don't know where you might want it or what fix you'd like. Most templates and things have documentation on their talk pages. So whenever you see something that's produced by a template, go into edit mode and you see some text surrounded by curly braces i.e., {{foo}} That's a template and so its name will always be Template:Name (for the example, Template:Foo). So you can now go look at the template itself, which should have documentation on how to use it and various things you can do to play with placement, parameters and the like. For the smile, the way I found it was simply to click edit this pages, see the code (in this case [[User:Cowman109/Smile3]]—a template actually though rarely one not in curly braces, because it's in the userspace) then navigate to it (by copying User:Cowman109/Smile3 and pasting that into the search field), clicked edit once there and saw what image was being used inside to produce the image of the smile. You can learn about various ways to tweak userboxes at WP:USERBOXES. But it's more difficult to tell you of a "place that I may find instruction on how to do all these kinds of things" because there's all kinds of things involved; templates, tables, html, wikimarkup, magic words, etc. I'd start with help:Template, and help:table. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:19, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for the help. I love those smileys you did and that's exactly what I was looking for. I understand about you not being able to tell me about a specific place to find helps and how to's because there is a lot of information here spread about. I just find it difficult to search if I don't know exactly what to type in the search box I guess. Lots of times I run across the answer that there is no page available by that name and then I find the answer in an unsuspecting place. My archive box (if you look at it now) is to the right but it is partially behind the other stuff on the page. I even, just now, created sections thinking that might help but it appears to be stuck there. I guess I just don't like it hanging out to the right and would rather have it in the center or have the top portion of the page split in two so that I could put something beside it. No big deal really, however it would be nice to know how to put things side by side, if possible, without necessarily having to use the table because I am new at using that too. I do appreciate your taking the time to help me. ȚttØØditre§ 06:38, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Take a look at Wikipedia:Archive#Navigation_templates to look on various types of archive boxes. The one that is right now on your talk page is the default archive box for Cluebot III. It is made in a way so that it aligns itself beside the contents of the talk page. or u can collapse the archive box, if it hurts your eyes :). take a look on my talk page, to see how i have collapsed the archive box so that it is visible only when i click show--DBigXray 09:36, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I have also added a Template:Do not archive until for the thread in suggest bot with 20000 days as time limit :) --DBigXray 09:46, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank You DBig I will definitely check that out. ȚttØØditre§ 15:51, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I have found that I like the archive box collapsible with the width that you can make smaller (the example width is 10em). Now I just need to know how to add it to my talk page. What happens to the already archived items for my page if I change it? I don't want those things to disappear on me. I have left the code on my sandbox page for someone to help me with. I am pretty sure it needs something more for it to work right when being added to my talk page. I do like the index option on the one I have now, can that be added to the collapsible one or does that happen automatically?ȚttØØditre§ 16:10, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I have added the code here on top along with the link to Index page. I have chenged the archive parameters to |archivebox=no|box-advert=no so that the Default archive box is not visible now. But the remaining code for archive should remain on your talk page so that the bot can regularly arrive for archiving. cheers --DBigXray 17:12, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I have also added the codes to collapse the Cluebot archive box. Keep the one you like. --DBigXray 17:18, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Unknowingly you had removed the codes for archive along with the box. all you need to do was to set |archivebox=no to hide the box--DBigXray 18:06, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh but now that number one is back sitting up there all by itself, yea I am not real sure of this stuff just yet, sorry for all the newbie questions. ȚttØØditre§ 18:23, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Hmm that number 1 will stick around as its box has been removed. there may be a way to supress it. but you know, in my opinion its better to use the colapsed cluebot archive box, as you will have a search box and you will not have to bother to add the links everytime a new archive is made. just a thought, choose whatever seems best for you --DBigXray 18:30, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Ok so I just remove the new box and then make the no a yes? I will try that and if I mess it up I can just hit revert right? 19:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Ah ha I think I did it... thank you thank you for your patience. ȚttØØditre§ 20:02, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Much better. the search box proves to be very handy, to quickly locate the item in your archives.   cheers --DBigXray 20:09, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

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I like this done with check mark image =   Done ȚttØØditre§ 00:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Help

How come a couple of my talk page items have been archived, namely the suggest bot comment and my user boxes? I thought that changing the section title for those it would keep them from being archived. The archive is telling me I can't or rather that I shouldn't edit the archive (I was going to cut them out and put them back). They have been on my talk page quite awhile now so I don't know why they have been archived at this time. ȚttØØditre§ 15:16, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
I have added back contents from archive. It seems like {{DNAU}} doesnt work with ClueBot --DBigXray 15:24, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you so much for fixing it for me. Will they stay there now or will they disappear again in the future? I guess I could move it to my home page (well at least the user boxes anyway) and then I could just do a search each time I wanted to see the suggestions. Or isn't there a way to sign up for the suggestions to come regularly? I think that I did that as a temp thing just to try it out. I will have to go and look. Thanks again for your superb help. ȚttØØditre§ 03:47, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
I just saw this "Usage This template must be substituted to work. " about the DNAU template.... Maybe it wasn't substituted... whatever that means. ȚttØØditre§ 04:27, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
I did substitute the template. I will explain what Substitution does here (you can also check out Help:Substitution). lets take a simple example. you have used the template {{smile}} a number of times, although you actually wanted to use {{smiley}} to produce this ->  .
see the template {{Smile}} should be substituted to work which means you need to type {{subst:Smile}} so that it will produce the template and substitute the names of the Sender and reciever in the correct places where they should be.
If you do not substitute it. i.e. you do not add the characters subst: and simply type {{smile}} then the names of the sender and receiver may not be substituted properly.
  • In this case I did susbtitute the template {{DNAU}} by adding {{subst:DNAU|20000}} (for 20000 days) but from the recent experience on your talk page, it became clear that Clue bot III does not recognise the template {{DNAU}} and it has a seperate "Do not Archive Until" template of its own. You can read the discussion about it here [1] --DBigXray 10:16, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh thats what that means. Sometimes the way it is explained on wiki I can not understand but now that you have explained it ... it makes sense. ȚttØØditre§ 00:32, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
  Done I have added the code to stop your 2 favorite threads above from getting archived Until year 2022 , simply remove those lines if you want it to get archived. To understand how to do it in future if you want to keep a thread on your talk page read this the Unix timestamp can be calculated from this site. cheers--DBigXray 09:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry I missed you

As you may have guessed, I've been off line, for several reasons. But I'm back. I'm sorry I missed your question about the lead, but glad you found some help. Most places recommend waiting to write the lead till the article is finished, but I confess I usually do some work on it at the beginning, because I find it more motivating to work on an article with a decent lead. (Kind of like putting on lipstick in the morning -- not much of an effort but it makes me feel more positive over all.) I just know I'll have to rewrite it to accurately reflect how the article ended up when I'm finished. And, because I never seem to totally finish, I keep rewriting it later.LOL Anyway, I should be more regular online now, so please let me know how it's going and if I can help. Tlqk56 (talk) 19:27, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, TW. It's good to see you online again. I was getting worried about you -- I hope everything's OK. Anyway, welcome back.

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I have been so terribly busy its unreal, house sitting and watching my four year old grandson AND my sons business office while he is away. No environment to think and write in that's for sure. All my books and things that I had delivered about the methadone maintenance were in my car and unfortunately someone (wonder who that could be =)) left a cup of coffee in a travel mug in the back seat of my car... it got so hot the top of the mug exploded off and the coffee spilled all over my books ruining them all. It sat there so long before I realized it that there was no saving the stuff. Really disappointed me =( Anyhow I shall have to start from scratch and when i get some moments that are conducive to writing I shall begin on our project. I did manage to find an article to make some edits on. Thank you for noticing I was here. ȚttØØditre§ 00:09, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm so glad it was just normal busy stuff that's kept you away. You are allowed to have a life, after all. :) I'm very sorry to hear about your papers, though. I had something similar happen in my car with an unopened can of Dr. Pepper and temps above 100 for a week straight. Took forever to get the upholstery clean, and ruined some other stuff. It's especially sad that you lost your work, it's no fun having to start over. Just let me know when I can help, and stay cool. Tlqk56 (talk) 01:01, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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Did you know about this...

Hi, TW. I hope things are going well for you. I just wanted to pass on something I just found out about from Fuhghettaboutit. You know when you're tracking down some info and you can't read the article you need without paying or belonging to some special organization? If you go to WP:RX and post a request, with the URL of the article(s) you need, people will try to find it and make a copy available for you. I've already gotten several interesting articles that way. It just occurred to me you might not know about it either, so I thought I'd pass it along. TTYL, Tlqk56 (talk) 16:40, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I actually think I was told that as well by the same person however I needed to go back and find the post in order to know how to do it so I thank you for posting this for me. ȚttØØditre§ 21:23, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Five

 
Stop by for a tasty glass of wiki-iced tea at the Teahouse, today!

Hi! Welcome to the fifth edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!

  • Guest activity increased in July. Questions are up from an average of 36 per week in June to 43 per week in July, and guest profile creation has also increased. This is likely a result of the automatic invite experiments we started near the end of month, which seeks to lessen the burden on hosts and other volunteers who manually invite editors. During the last week of July, questions doubled in the Teahouse! (But don't let that deter you from inviting editors to the Teahouse, please, there are still lots of new editors who haven't found Teahouse yet.)
  • More Teahouse hosts than ever. We had 12 new hosts sign up to participate at the Teahouse! We now have 35 hosts volunteering at the Teahouse. Feel free to stop by and see them all here.
  • Phase two update: Host sprint. In August, the Teahouse team plans to improve the host experience by developing a simpler new-host creation process, a better way of surfacing active hosts, and a host lounge renovation. Take a look at the plan and weigh in here.
  • New Teahouse guest barnstar is awarded to first recipient: Charlie Inks. Using the Teahouse barnstar designed by Heatherawalls, hosts hajatvrc and Ryan Vesey created the new Teahouse Guest Barnstar. The first recipient is Charlie Inks, for her boldness in asking questions at the Teahouse. Check out the award in action here.
  • Teahouse was a hot topic at Wikimania! The Teahouse was a hot topic at Wikimania this past month, where editor retention and interface design was heavily discussed. Sarah and Jonathan presented the Teahouse during the Wikimedia Fellowships panel. Slides can be viewed here. A lunch was also held at Wikimania for Teahouse hosts.

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I was in the process of improving this article and found duplicate wiki-links. They appear to be exactly the same on the articles read tab but when going to the edit screen they are not EXACTLY the same. The first one went to the same page but the second one I was going to edit did not link to the same page. I am wondering why the difference and should I not remove the duplicates. I was advised by a more experienced user some time ago that it is proper to wiki link only the first instance of the word and they should be used more for uncommon words or topics that a reader may need clarification for. Something like that. I made the edit I made in good faith and would like clarification before continuing on. If you look at the word alcohol in that article you will see two links that appear the same but are different. I left the change that I did make and wondering if I should change it back? ȚttØØditre§ 04:29, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

My advice is delete the second link (the one to ethanol- it just confused things. Mdann52 (talk) 05:41, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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I've been off-and-on here myself, life being what it is. But I'm glad you're still editing. I think working on smaller articles is a great idea. I've found some of them turn out pretty big, anyway. And it's nice to get improvements made on shorter ones and feel done. If I can help in any way just let me know. Tlqk56 (talk) 16:53, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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I have made a number of edits to this stub and wondering just how I would know when a stub is no longer a stub? And who has permission to remove the "this is a stub" from articles that are marked in that manner? I have plans for more expansion/improvements to this article so I am not finished with what I am doing, but would love for someone to take a look and welcome any comments, advice, suggestions etc. Goodnight and Thanks so much ȚttØØditre§ 06:21, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
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The Tea Leaf - Issue Six

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  • Teahouse serves over 700 new editors in six months on Wikipedia! Since February 27, 741 new editors have participated at the Teahouse. The Q&A board and the guest intro pages are more active than ever.
 
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  • Host lounge renovations nearing completion. Working closely with Teahouse hosts, we've made some major renovations to the Teahouse Host Lounge - the main hangout and resource space for hosts. Learn more about the improvements here.

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page names - methadone maintenance to methadone maintenance treatment

I dont think that it would be correct to change the name to MMT. I think that a better name would be Methadone Treatment Programmes and information about methadone reduction as well as maintenance could be included as well. I dont think that an additional page about methadone reduction would be in helpful, i think that the page should be used to document both types of treatment with methadone, as at the moment, the Methadone page is overcrowded with this that and everything! I would appreciate your input! Markdarrly (talk) 02:42, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

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The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven

 
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Thanks again! Ocaasi 02:21, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap)

 
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It's been a full year since the Teahouse opened, and as we're reflecting on what's been accomplished, we wanted to celebrate with you.

Teahouse guests and hosts are sharing their stories in a new blog post about the project.

1 year statistics for Teahouse visitors compared to invited non-visitors from the pilot:

Metric Control group Teahouse group Contrast
Average retention (weeks with at least 1 edit) 5.02 weeks 8.57 weeks 1.7x retention
Average number of articles edited 58.7 articles 116.9 edits 2.0x articles edited
Average talk page edits 36.5 edits 85.6 edits 2.4x talk page edits
Average article space edits 129.6 edits 360.4 edits 2.8x article edits
Average total edits (all namespaces) 182.1 edits 532.4 edits 2.9x total edits

Over the past year almost 2000 questions have been asked and answered, 669 editors have introduced themselves, 1670 guests have been served, 867 experienced Wikipedians have participated in the project, and 137 have served as hosts. Read more project analysis in our CSCW 2013 paper

Last month January was our most active month so far! 78 profiles were created, 46 active hosts answered 263 questions, and 11 new hosts joined the project.

Come by the Teahouse to share a cup of tea and enjoy a Birthday Cupcake! Happy Birthday to the Teahouse and thank you for a year's worth of interest and support :-)

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Just letting you know I (tried to at least) answered your {{help me}} request at the Alcoholics Anonymous talkpage, in case you didn't see. Happy editing! Charmlet (talk) 16:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)