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Stepping awayEdit

It is with sadness that I will soon (UPDATE: that's now: July 2!) depart the project for an unspecified amount of time. First and foremost, I’m dealing with personal problems. Contributing here is no longer a positive use of my time, at this time. I need to focus on myself. Secondly, my recent block has affected me. Editing is no longer the same, not that the editing has gotten worse, but my mood has. Suggested reading: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-06-30/Recent research, particularly the paragraph on The authors concluded that... With my recent DYK promoted, there’s nothing much pressing left. Maybe you can contribute to how exercise should be portrayed at Talk:Donald Trump. Maybe you can weigh in for my suggestion, the latest topic at Wikipedia talk:Harassment. Maybe you can help me update WP:FRAMSUM. Maybe you can create a quality article on a notable woman (or notable anything, really). But I can’t for now. I’m doing this for myself. starship.paint (talk) 06:35, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

  • I understand. You have been very active. I hope that you have a restful vacation. If Wikipedia is still operating when you return, then you will be welcome back. I would appreciate a ping when you return so that I can greet you. --Pine (✉) 06:37, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
    @Pine:, okay, I will. Thanks! starship.paint (talk) 06:53, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi, did you change your mind regarding taking a break? That is okay, but if you need vacation please take it. I would rather have you go on vacation and then return well rested than have you burn out. --Pine (✉) 06:59, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
  • @Pine: - no, I didn't change my mind. I'm ... erm ... doing some stuff before I go. When I read things, I feel compelled to edit. I will do less reading during my break, so I won't feel compelled to edit. Rest assured, this is no burnout risk. Other than my article edits, you can see from some of my posts on talk pages that I'm gearing up to leave in peace. starship.paint (talk) 07:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
  • @Pine: .... right... that's that. I think that's all the content I wanted to add. No more reading of Fram stuff until I officially return, unless someone notifies me. I'd probably log in a few times in the next days to respond to notifications, but other than that... think you're right. It should be break time. starship.paint (talk) 07:59, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry to hear that starship, since you were normally a nice person to me and did a good job all around. I always saw you being active end editing pages. Hopefully you can come back eventually and help out more  . Bill Williams (talk) 15:16, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry the block affected you, Starship.paint. Tempers are very high and people are on edge. I don't know if it helps to think of it as something that is in part about the situation we're in, and that it will be viewed by others in that light also. I hope that when your personal things are wrapped up, you'll feel like coming back. --valereee (talk) 10:00, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
  • @Valereee: - saw your message when I came to post on my own ArbCom case request. Turns out I already posted. Hahaha, it’s funny you mention viewing it in that way - because I actually do, and it doesn’t help. I put a quote somewhere, it’s on Britishfinace’s talk page, that hints to what I think. I don’t think the block wasn’t anything personal from TonyB, we have no feud, neither do I think that TonyB blocked me to silence me on WP:FRAM. I know you’ll be an admin soon, Valereee, so you definitely should read the Signpost link I linked above. Alright? :) starship.paint (talk) 10:20, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
    I'm sorry it doesn't help. I had already read that signpost passage you linked, and it references a longer passage in the full report. I will read that, promise. And let's not count our chickens before they're hatched, lol. Best wishes to you. --valereee (talk) 10:43, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
    @Valereee: - no need to be sorry, in fact, thank you for trying to help! I appreciate it. Best wishes to you too. starship.paint (talk) 12:41, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Take good care of yourself and your entourage. No worries: we'll keep the wheels turning around here. — JFG talk 05:46, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks JFG. Yeah, I'm sure the major stuff will be covered. I'm just one person - tiny in the overall scheme of things. However, I should keep away from the news to stay away XD starship.paint (talk) 08:07, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
I know, I've been there.[1] you'll make it! — JFG talk 08:13, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
@JFG: - thanks very much! starship.paint (talk) 08:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Here's a SnoopyEdit

  and a *bonus*
These are trying times around WP and I was reading some of the contributions over at WP:ARC (including yours) and I thought you might appreciate one of my all-time favorite images from Commons. As an added bonus here's one of my very VERY favorite WP-articles: Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office.

Better days are ahead, things just sort of suck at the moment... Shearonink (talk) 15:44, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Was posting this and then read your posts above. Take care of yourself, sorry to see you step away but I *get* it. Hope you feel that you can come back someday. Shearonink (talk) 15:46, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
That’s so sweet Shearonink. Thank you! Ah yes, ARC, one of the last things for me to settle. But I think enough people have weighed in (and will continue to weigh in). starship.paint (talk) 00:32, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversaryEdit

Two years ago ...
 
ultimate warrior
... you were recipient
no. 826 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:03, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Three years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

... and four! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:35, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

... and five! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

American politics discretionary sanctions noticeEdit

This happened on 27 June 2019. starship.paint (talk) 10:05, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

GuidelinesEdit

... I've compiled the list of guidelines for me to adhere to: no outing, no adding more off-wiki statements to the summary, no attempts to seek the identity of anonymous editors, and no asking for personal details. starship.paint (talk) 03:02, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Before you goEdit

What is the most popular color of starship paint? Jehochman Talk 11:20, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism By All IPv6Edit

Hi Starship.paint, I suggest all IPv6 to be permanently range blocked globally because all this IP's are wrecking havoc and attack on user Gundam, hope you can to rangeblock globally on all IPv6 permanently to prevent any attack on other users. 113.210.101.3 (talk) 11:24, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

I’m no admin! Can’t help you there. Make a report at WP:ANI. Also, I’m not an expert on IPs, but it sounds like you’re asking the whole world’s IPv6 to be blocked? Surely that can’t happen. starship.paint (talk) 12:25, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
A WP:semi-protection would block all IP editors, both V4 and v6. Not a big fan of protection myself, it's usually applied too soon, too liberally, and for too long. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:43, 14 July 2019 (UTC).

Barnstar & replyEdit

  The Content Creativity Barnstar
I hereby award this barnstar to editor starship.paint for many years of fine article creation, and friendly colloration with other editors.FeydHuxtable (talk) 13:32, 2 July 2019 (UTC)


There's always a risk that when someone posts on my talk they might get a rather TLDR response.  

I'm going to be a little blunt, but only as I think this might be helpful, as it looks like youre having trouble dis-engaging, even though you know it's what you need to do. (I'll also send a brief email with a point I don't want to make on wiki, that will be a bit softer)

I don't need your advice on Framgate, and the community as a whole needs it even less.

You've said you've got some personal problems going on that need your attention. That being the case, the last thing you should be doing is wasting your time trying to help with a complex situation like Framgate, with all the dark energy flowing about it. That is not to imply youre making things worse. I've reviewed your contribs to the matter and would say you've been a big net positive overall. All credit to you for that. But as you yourself have admitted, you are misreading many aspects of the situation. Your post on my talk was just another example. If you carefully read my statement, it suggests I already knew what Fram had written on meta. I was just saying that MLG actions were fine as at the time she would have had reason to think Fram had effectively cleared the article. And if I don't need your help on this, that's far more true of the community as a whole. Many editors older &/or much more experienced than myself are giving Framgate good attention. Folk like Kudpung , Jehocman, Stephan Schulz , Doc James, Iridescent, Risker, Dennis Brown, Swarm, Richie333, Aquillion , the Arbs, and many others not mentioned. These are serious editors. They don't need help from you or me to guide Framgate to the best possible resolution. Which won't be perfect, nothing can ever compensate for the loss of good editors like LH, but we should end up with a Wikipedia that is more inclusive & tolerant of mistakes, while also hopefully getting the WMF to revert its ban & desysop.

The complexities of Framgate could easily 100% consume any individuals time over the next few weeks. You've clearly signalled you need to spend that time on yourself. Time is so often critical , but we don't realise until its too late. Unless I'm misreading, there's quite a storm coming - of which the nonsense that's erupted across the world since 2016, now invading even the once rational safe have community that is Wikipedia – is but a foreshadowing. Now is the time for any young individuals to grow strong roots so they can sand against what is to come, and contribute for the good. On a more personal level, middle age can be quite sweet if you get well established when your young. It's much harder to compensate once your 50+, if such people have procrastinated on sorting their personal lives out for too long, then life can be full of bitterness & regret. So get going & sort out whatever these personal problems are!

But please do come back to Wikipedia once you have things sorted out. I see you've been quite shaken by the block. It might seem empty if I say that's no big deal considering I have a clean block log. So here's a short story. A few months back I was in a content dispute where the only honourable play was for me to take actions where from a harsh but still reasonable policy interpretation, I'd deserve a block. That didn't bother me. I'm not comparing myself to much more talented writers like Giano or Eric Corbett. But when I consider their block logs I sometimes commit the sin of envy, as it proves they are passionate. In various statements I made during the dispute to admins I openly said it would be fine if they wanted to block me. All this is not to say that its not best to be sanction free, just sharing the perspective that's its not really a big deal. Anyhow, if I may take the risk of speaking on behalf of the community, we very much want you to come back, but only once you've done what needs to be done in your personal life.

If you find this advise useful, no need to thank me. The best response would be just to log out, get a grip on the personal issues, and then come back in however many weeks or months it takes you to get things sorted. I'll leave a wiki kitten to guard your talk page in the meantime. And I know its easier said than done, but try not to worry about Framgate. Take it on faith that the community can handle it. We've got this. FeydHuxtable (talk) 13:32, 2 July 2019 (UTC)


Replied by email. Some stuff for the watchers: I'm over my 'stained' block log, and I'm not worrying about FramGate. starship.paint (talk) 14:42, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

ThanksEdit

For the strawberries, but I actually was thinking more of many other editors who were far more productive than I was, & who served as shining examples until one day they were the subject of an WP:AN/I thread -- & then were gone. Just because they weren't at the very top of the pile, or distinguished themselves in some way (dying before her/his time seems to be the most common, I regret to observe), TPTB neglected to single them out for praise when it could have made a difference. But anyway, you take care of yourself & try to keep out of the Wikidrama: it's addictive, & too much is as bad for you as street drugs. -- llywrch (talk) 15:38, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

  • @Llywrch: - thank you for the well wishes. I wasn't aware of the examples you raised, so the least I can do is just pass some appreciation to you. starship.paint (talk) 01:31, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Starship.paint, I suspect you must feel rather beaten up after all the drama that has happened, and I just thought I should drop by and offer you my good wishes. I hope that you will be of good cheer! --Tryptofish (talk) 19:59, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
    @Tryptofish: - thank you for your kind thoughts. I will be honest to you: in the immediate aftermath of my indef block, I confronted the harrowing possibility that my unblock request would be declined, and that I would not be able to return. I coped by mentally producing the epitaph of my Wikipedia career - I prepared to leave with my head held high. I’m afraid, as I have found out, that one does not simply return to Wikipedia the same after that. I’m not especially unhappy, it’s just that this has left a scar. starship.paint (talk) 23:42, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
    You may be interested to know that I, too, was indeffed once, by ArbCom no less (and that set off an immense s–t storm)! I can attest that there really is wiki-life after being blocked. After all, it's only a website. --Tryptofish (talk) 01:04, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
    @Tryptofish: - wow. It seems like you extremely qualified to comment here. In your case, you felt that your block was something of a statement, or an somewhat of an example being made to satisfy something like 'tradition', or as other editors pointed out, procedure. I'm sorry you went through that, but I can see that you were better equipped to deal with it, as even then, you've already had the mindset that this was only a website (which is true). starship.paint (talk) 01:39, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
    ... and from your case, I read Jytdog's retirement ... and from that, a case request from Black Kite against BU Rob13 for comments about The Rambling Man. Funny how life works. starship.paint (talk) 01:55, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Request for arbitration declinedEdit

The request for arbitration User:TonyBallioni's block of User:Starship.paint and User:Geni's unblock has been declined by the committee. The arbitrators' comments about the request can be viewed here. – bradv🍁 03:44, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

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I'M BACK, BUT NOT THE SAMEEdit

So, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Sometimes change is good for us even if it comes to us unwillingly. Liz Read! Talk! 04:17, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

  • @Liz: - I don't know at this point. I'm not saying that it is bad. starship.paint (talk) 04:22, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

I hope it's a good thing. --valereee (talk) 12:36, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

@Valereee: - thanks :) perhaps it is neutral now, may it be good soon. starship.paint (talk) 13:10, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

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YOU'RE kind of the opposite of criticism!Edit

It's your blessing and your curse, whatever that means. But seriously, when someone prefaces a "compliment" with "at least", they're being "ironic". It's like the comedic equivalent of Aja Kong backfisting an elephant into next week on rollerskates or whatever.

Anyway, I know I said I'd be back in 45 days, but I've decided the best way forward this week is hiking westward, and this week starts tomorrow, as dumb luck would have it. No Wikipedia, no women, no worries. Just one man chasing his dream of cutting off and eating a mythical beast's tail or getting bored trying. Hope you don't mind if I "write you a rain check", as the children of tomorrow used to say. Whatever strange change has come over you on the weird and wooly watercoaster that was The Last 44, just at least know that I'll always remember you're like a bird.

Now fly, my frazzled friend, fly high and never forget everything I've taught you (except the part about backfisting an elephant, that's just gross). InedibleHulk (talk) 05:28, August 5, 2019 (UTC)

@InedibleHulk: - YOU'RE not even a real editorial, that's right. Actually, that comment of his was revealing why he ultimately preferred Republicans to Democrats, instead of hating both equally. What's wrong with women? Tell me in 45 days. I won't be backfisting any elephants. starship.paint (talk) 07:33, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Well yeah, everyone has a slight favourite once they think about it. If you held a Patriot missile battery to my head and told me to pick a lapel pin, I'd choose Democrats. But once you were out of earshot, I'd say it once and I'd say it again: Democracy simply doesn't work.
.You know what the problem with women really is, bird? They all start with W. You just don't see many manly men hanging around with worries, Wikipedia and whatnot, at least figuratively. And literally less likely to stumble across a woman in these wild woods. They're either wicked witches, white Wiccans or wedded wives. My rhetorical grandfather always said, son, if you're going to break up a marriage or interrupt a ritual, do it in polite society, in broad daylight. That way, nobody can possibly shoot or curse at you.
Seriously though, pretty uneventful trek, saw nobody bigger than squirrels of indeterminate gender (no telltale nuts) and devoid of particular political persuasion. Nice, though, in a filthy sexless hippie way. Glad I live in a people house again, though, kind of. Might just be because tonight is rainy. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:21, August 10, 2019 (UTC)
That's a fast 45 days, oh yeah, we don't see many manly men in wrestling, I wonder why? Wheeeee starship.paint (talk) 06:51, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
You can use world wrestling wisdom to prove anything, though, doesn't really prove anything. Or does it? In any case, I didn't realize the 45-day intermissions were mandatory, sheesh. But I get it. You're a starbird now, don't need ol' Boogeyhulk weighing you down with tales of broken clocks, wounded worms and dreaded red backstage mist (did you hear Rip says the worms are too good for Zeus?)
Seriously though, we should cowrite a reboot of No Holds Barred where absolutely nothing is different except every character is played by a woman and the bad guy is a moronic white unibrowed skinhead (Charlize Theron? Charlotte Flair? Roseanne?) First time for everything, just saying, and if we don't grab that moolah, you know who will, Koko? Women! Stealing our ideas! What would a woman know about wrestling, except everything we do and more.
Anyway, no rush. Keep on Trumpin'! Sorry for sheeshing you earlier, that wasn't very Stephanie McMahonly of me, but there's no rewriting it now...or is there? InedibleHulk (talk) 11:08, August 10, 2019 (UTC)
The intermissions are not only mandatory, but there's gotta be no wrestling during them at all, unless you're using split screens. Keep your mouth runnels, Hulk, on and on. How about skinhead Cate Blanchett? She's hela fine! starship.paint (talk) 13:26, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Nice to meet youEdit

  Greetings
~ thanks for the warning ~ lol ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 01:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
@Mitchellhobbs: - you're welcome, I've added one more statement made by Trump [3], thought you may be interested. starship.paint (talk) 01:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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@Doug Weller: - did you mean to post something in the second template? starship.paint (talk) 23:48, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Damn, I thought I'd fix that. Did you know there's now a self-awaremess template? {{Ds/aware}} Doug Weller talk 08:00, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Doug Weller, I've implemented that! starship.paint (talk) 09:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
You need to move it to the top of your talk page. Doug Weller talk 11:22, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Doug Weller - done, thanks again! Got a question for you though. So we can't add a list of victim names to the article. How about prose of victims including the names? starship.paint (talk) 11:46, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
I haven't been following the discussion and at the moment simply don't have time. Wife's away, I have my dog, her dog, and step-sons difficult dog to look after and I need to walk ours at least 4 miles a a day! Doug Weller talk 13:52, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
I haven't been following the discussion either. Have fun on your walk! starship.paint (talk) 13:53, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


Talk:2019 Dayton shootingEdit

Please don't remove content from an archive page. We have a procedure for suppressing content that, for a policy reason, should not remain publicly visible. That procedure was followed in this case and suppression was rejected. While this specific content may or may not be useful in the future, removing content directly from an archive page establishes a precedent that anyone may remove content from an archive page that they don't think is useful or that they want to try to hide from view. This is not the community's policy. General Ization Talk 13:03, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

@General Ization: - I'm not going to contest your revert, but frankly, you should be more flexible. We have WP:IAR for such purposes. starship.paint (talk) 03:00, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Please explain why you think we should ignore this rule. "Because I think so" isn't a valid reason. General Ization Talk 03:09, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
General Ization - (1) The original poster did not have any legitimate gripe with the picture. (2) The original poster went into more detail about the shooting than what was already covered and also talked about inspirations of copycat shootings, and thus ironically is even more likely to inspire a copycat shooting. (3) Primefac, while declining suppression, [4] said: My personal suggestion would just be to remove the thread and let it fade away into the history of the talk page. - I am interpreting removing the thread as physically blanking it from the archives, because the diffs of the content themselves are still preserved in the history of both the talk page and the talk page archive. (4) The original poster, myself, and Nice4What want the thread to be deleted, you're the only one in the way of it. starship.paint (talk) 03:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Primefac's advice meant to do exactly what was done, which was to manually archive the thread, thus removing it from the Talk page. If you think they meant something else, you should ask them. As I explained, my concern isn't specifically about this content, but about the notion that anyone may remove anything they would like to remove, for any reason or for no reason at all, from a Talk page archive. Whether you see it or not, that would result in chaos. The diffs still exist, but the discussion cannot be readily reconstructed from the diffs to, for example, cite it as precedent in another discussion in the future. While I understand that hiding the content is what you think should happen (or have happened) in this case, that was not the determination of the Oversight team and I don't think you, the original poster or Nice4What should substitute your judgment for theirs. General Ization Talk 03:46, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
When I wrote my opinion, the discussion was still on the talk page, and removal/archival would mean that it would no longer be immediately visible (which seems to be the main concern). If outright removal were appropriate, then it would likely have been revdel'd or suppressed. Primefac (talk) 15:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Ilhan OmarEdit

Please revert your edit. We are in middle of discussing it on the talk page. Sir Joseph (talk) 01:09, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Trump administration migrant detentionsEdit

 On 18 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Trump administration migrant detentions, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that U.S. Border Patrol agents reported that some migrant detainees at the U.S.–Mexico border in 2019 were housed in standing-room conditions for days or weeks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Trump administration migrant detentions. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Trump administration migrant detentions), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Advice on working on languageEdit

Please pardon the question, I'm trying to get better at this.

At Talk:List of concentration and internment camps, do you think I should be editing the block of text I put in green? Or do you think I should reproduce the whole (or parts) of the text every time I make a change?

--Pinchme123 (talk) 06:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@Pinchme123: let's just edit the text in green. starship.paint (talk) 06:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

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