User talk:Jonesey95/Archive2017

How to set Auto Ed to translate citation template parameters?

Hello! Could you tell me how did you set auto ed to perform edits like this one? I translate pages from Portuguese to English regularly and the citation templates always come in Portuguese, but the gadget seems to translate them very easily, and I would like to use it in any articles I translate in the future. Thank you, Victão Lopes ^Fala! 18:15, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

The AutoEd script that I use is User:Jonesey95/AutoEd/unnamed.js. It is called from User:Jonesey95/vector.js. If you do not have any programming experience, or if you are unfamiliar with regular expressions, you are in for a learning experience or some frustration.

You are welcome to copy my script and adapt it for reuse in your own user space. Be aware that it is imperfect. Every edit needs to be checked in Preview before it is saved. If you are interested only in Portuguese translations, you should probably delete or comment all of the lines that are not in the "Portuguese" section of the script.

P.S. You have a minor syntax error in your signature. I corrected it above. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:24, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

I have a very basic understanding of RegEx due to AWB. Let me see if I got it right: all I have to do is to copy your script to somewhere within my user space ("User:Victor Lopes/AutoEd/unnamed.js", for example); delete everything except for the Portuguese section; create User:Victor Lopes/vector.js, add the lines below and start using it, with caution for possible errors?

"// Add Wikipedia:AutoEd custom scripts to Move menu

importScript('User:Victor Lopes/AutoEd/unnamed.js'); //core4.js"

PS: Thanks for the fix in my signature! I have corrected it in my preferences so it is always right from now on. Victão Lopes ^Fala! 19:48, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

It looks like you may also need to copy User:Jonesey95/AutoEd/core4.js into your AutoEd directory. It has been too long since I set it up, so I do not remember exactly. You will also need to change any instance of "Jonesey95" in any of the scripts to your user name. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:56, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll give it a try soon. Thank you very much! Victão Lopes ^Fala! 23:10, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Shah

Hello, Jonesey95 - I was just looking at the latest edit to Shah, and I was trying to figure out if the capitalization should follow the pattern of "president" – when the word refers to a particular person and is used as a title, it is capitalized, but when it is used generally, it is not – so I looked through the article Shah, and I saw various combinations of regular font, italics, upper case "s" and lower case "s". What do you think? Should the instance in this edit be "Shah" or "shah"?  – Corinne (talk) 16:21, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Titles of people, which explains the nuances. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:37, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

O.K. Thanks!  – Corinne (talk) 23:25, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Re: OR-7

Do you give this article a GOCE blessing? In other words, do you think your review means we can add a GOCE template to the talk page, or do you think it should go through the GOCE queue before considering a Good article nomination? I'm curious if you are interested in nominating this article for Good status. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:56, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

I think that the prose, sentence by sentence, would pass a GAN as currently written. I do not think the article should be nominated in its current state, though; it needs to be trimmed of superfluous material that has accumulated over the years in order to make it a single coherent story. It has good bones but needs to be trimmed and tightened. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:40, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Geobox

I added support for |coordinates=, |capital_coordinates=, |highest_coordinates=, |lowest_coordinates=, |source_coordinates=, |source1_coordinates=, |source2_coordinates=, |source_confluence_coordinates=, |management_coordinates=, and |government_coordinates= to {{geobox}} (search the geobox code for coord= to find them all). the core code is in {{geobox2 coor}} which is called by {{geobox}}. when converting transclusions to the new format, |display=inline,title should be added to the coordinates passed through |coordinates=, if it exists, otherwise added to |mouth_coordinates=, otherwise added to |capital_coordinates=. however, if |coordinates_no_title= is non-empty, then |display=inline,title should be added to none of them. the {{geobox2 coor}} template uses {{geobox2 coor type}} to determine the region: and type: for the coordinates. I may need to tweak the insert code in {{geobox2 coor}} if there is a problem with how the default and override works. let me know if you see any problems. Frietjes (talk) 15:45, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I haven't dived into the family of {{geobox}} templates yet, but when I do, I'll come back to this note. The infoboxes are giving me enough trouble as it is.

If you want some fun, take a look at {{Infobox Russian inhabited locality}}, which appears to need drastic simplification. Far too many unnecessary if statements.

I also postponed work on {{Infobox Parish PT}} because I didn't know how to extract |longd= from {{coord}} to incorporate it into the if statement that chooses which map to use. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:04, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Article title

You'll have seen that a few minutes ago I moved a new request from the top of the Requests page to the bottom. Right after that, I was in the process of typing a note to the editor just to inform them of the move when I saw the editor had changed the title of the article. [1] Of course, an editor who is writing a new article can change the title, but I'm wondering whether the case number of a court case is the best kind of title to use. I'm sure there are many articles on WP that deal with court cases, but I don't recall seeing they are titled by the case number. Do you have any thoughts on this? It doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I thought, if there is any guideline on this, you would know about it and could advise the editor.  – Corinne (talk) 19:15, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

I looked at the article and the Good Article reassessment, and it appears that most of the people at that discussion are saying that the article needs a better name. I suspect that it will be renamed to something reasonable. One of the editors at Talk:Alexandra Stan v. Marcel Prodan/GA2 linked to and quoted from MOS:LAW for title guidance, so at least some advice has already been given. The long explanation of how to give an article a title is at Wikipedia:Article titles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:16, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

O.K. Thanks!  – Corinne (talk) 16:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Coordinate confusion

Sorry, I would fix it if I knew how, but recent changes have revealed wikitext coordinate errors ("Lua error..." in infobox) in the following and I'm hoping you will attend to them:

• Bolívar Square
• Trafalgar Square

Thanks. Johnuniq (talk) 02:57, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Johnuniq:  Resolved — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:56, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the fixes, JJMC89. The first one was an infobox with a Location Map that didn't exist. The second one was a |coordinates= parameter that wasn't using {{coord}}. I expect more of the latter are out there. We have a new discussion thread about how to deal with some of them.

Johnuniq, drop by any time. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:48, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Manual of Style

Is there any way of getting free on-line access through Wikipedia to one or more style guides such as Oxford, Chicago Manual of Style, MLA, etc.?  – Corinne (talk) 00:31, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Not that I know of. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:42, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Help: map no longer shown using "infobox frazione" after "coord" update

Hi and sorry for disturb, I've seen that, some days ago, a bot (JJMC89 bot) edited in thousand pages to add the new paramerter "coord" in the infobox. That's a good thing that simplifies and standardizes it. Btw, I've seen that you updated several infoboxes, so I hope to be in the right place. It is a problem with the {{Infobox frazione}} (your edit) that, differently from other ones, no longer shows the national map. Some random examples: {{Infobox UK place}} has no problem, I always see the British map. Same situation at the {{Infobox settlement}} and {{Infobox Italian comune}} (your update). Even after JJMC89 bot's edit, I can see the Italian map (ex.: Venice before and after JJMC89 bot shows no changes in the map). In the articles using the infobox frazione, after bot's edits, Italian map and the below text Location of -placename- in Italy vanished. An example: Passo Corese before and after bot's update. I've tried to fix (in preview), the "infobox frazione", copying your updates from the (closely related) infobox italian comune, but it appears a red error message in the box, so I've not saved it. Well, I ask for help to you because I saw your updates in the templates, and so I think you are able to find the solution (it is a bit too complex for me). Sorry for disturb and regards. --Dэя-Бøяg 18:46, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

@DerBorg: I've updated the infobox to display the map when |coordinates= is used. Pages may need to be purged to display the map. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:03, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

@JJMC89: Yes, it works now. Thanks a lot. --Dэя-Бøяg 19:08, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

My mistake. Sorry for missing that. Thanks to JJMC89 for fixing it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:18, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

You deserve one. It's nice seeing you working with the ISBNs.

Magioladitis (talk) 08:55, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. It seems like new articles are popping into the report, even though they have not been edited in a while. I don't know how that happens. For example, Odo of Bayeux and Karposh's rebellion appeared on the report, even though they had not been edited in a month, and the faulty ISBN was added well before the most recent edit. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:02, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Maybe the detection got better? PS You deserve a special "I am sorry" for my misunderstanding in the known case.-- Magioladitis (talk) 18:45, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Belén Rodríguez

Jonesey95, I had put the tag at the top of the article Belén Rodríguez and was in the middle of editing. It was a quite difficult job, many small edits to put English written by a non-native speaker into Standard English. It took me a long time. I hope you won't mind re-doing your edits.  – Corinne (talk) 02:09, 28 January 2017 (UTC) I'm so sorry, Jonesey95. I know you also spent time, but if you look at my edits you'll see how many of them there were, and I would have lost all that work. I hope you understand. Thank you.  – Corinne (talk) 02:29, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Definitely not a problem. I'll be happy to redo my edits. You hadn't edited for over an hour, so I figured that it was safe to make some changes. I took a calculated risk that my work would be overwritten.

I usually find that when I'm working on a difficult edit, the least risky tactic is to work in sections, for what it's worth. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:36, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much, and thank you for not being upset with me. You're right. I should do that. This has happened before. I just realized, upon going back to the Requests page, that I had worked on a different article from the one I had put the "Working" tag on. They're both Spanish; that must be why.  – Corinne (talk) 02:40, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Jonesey, just FYI, see my comment here. I don't know what happened. Maybe in the process of copying and pasting to override your edits I did something wrong. I'm now having to re-do all my edits. I'm dismayed, because it was hours of tedious work.  – Corinne (talk) 15:24, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

That's unfortunate. It has happened to me in the past. That edit conflict page can be difficult to understand. My only advice is to work in sections, and don't go too long between saves. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:38, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

That Iran article

Hi Jonesey,

I want you to know that I admire your copy editing and I like your eagerness to avoid drama. But this time you screwed up by being over-enthusiastic. WP:3O is no longer available when a third editor has pitched in: it's third opinion not fourth or Nth. That's why Miniapolis has now had to suggest WP:DR, which is a much more formal and resource-intensive process that I'm not convinced those two editors need or can cope with.

You can't prevent drama once it has already broken out; that only fans the flames. You should have allowed the discussion on the REQ talk page to play out, or contributed there, not intervened on the article talk page. (Your copy edit on the article itself was fine.)

Please don't take this amiss, but please do avoid forestalling "how do we handle this" discussions on the GOCE talk pages by diving in like that.

Simon. --Stfg (talk) 00:56, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I try to avoid the drama portions of WP as much as possible, being inclined to jump in with a comment or assistance to try to quell the drama instead, so I am not as familiar as I should be with the various forms of DR. Any time I come near those pages, I have less fun than I want to. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:32, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

... and, belatedly ...

 ... I tried to give you your December blitz barnstar (since you don't seem to have gotten one), but the template is set for the February blitz; consider it awarded :-). All the best, Miniapolis 21:26, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

GOCE January 2017 drive bling

		The Minor Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling between 1 and 3,999 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE January 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 20:43, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Every time I give these damn things out, I'm grateful to you for streamlining the process :-). All the best, Miniapolis 20:43, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

I feel the same way when I do it. "Thanks, past self!" I am sometimes heard to say. Sometimes my past self is a better person than I am. And thanks for the no-frills December blitz bling. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-06

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community.

[content removed by Jonesey95]

Future changes

• Tidy will be replaced later this year. Instead, the HTML 5 parsing algorithm will be used to clean up bad HTML in wikitext. This will cause problems on a number of wikis. They need to be fixed first. You can see if your wiki still has something to fix here for one of the HTML problems. This list does not cover all problems. You can read about more problems. [2][3]

19:46, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Marathi Wikipedia

Dear sir I have observed that you made some changes to the template: documentation on the marathi Wikipedia. If u have a great knowledge about the template please help in getting the background green color which will be a great help from you Link to the साचा;documentaion--✝iѵɛɳ२२४०^{†ลℓк †๏ мэ} 04:10, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

I looked at the code, but I do not see what is different that makes documentation pages green on en.WP and white on mr.WP. Maybe Mr. Stradivarius or Jackmcbarn might know. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:15, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

@Tiven2240 and Jonesey95: It's done by code in MediaWiki:Common.css. Here's the CSS rule:

/* For template documentation */
.template-documentation {
    clear: both;
    margin: 1em 0 0 0;
    border: 1px solid #a2a9b1;
    background-color: #ecfcf4;
    padding: 1em;
}

If you want the colours to be the same as the English Wikipedia, you need to add that rule to mr:MediaWiki:Common.css. You could also go through the module and add all the styles inline, but using Common.css is the preferred way. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:20, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. That page is protected, as it should be, so Tiven2240 will need to make a protected edit request or find an mr.WP administrator to edit that page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:52, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Yeah sure I've requested the administrators on the mrwp to do the same. Thanks for being supportive.

We need 2 bots for marathi Wikipedia for our easy functionality where shall we have those please assist me with it as I am asking many but I find no answers 1= sinebot 2=a bot which will separate untagged(unlicensed) images that were uploaded on mrwp local upload wizard --✝iѵɛɳ२२४०^{†ลℓк †๏ мэ} 06:01, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Check out WP:GOCE/HOF; it's well-deserved. All the best, Miniapolis 15:30, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Let me add my congratulations! Have a glass of champagne.

Blanc de blanc grand Cru

 – Corinne (talk) 16:22, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Much better than the swill we sip here :-). Miniapolis 23:51, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Holy moly, this made my month! I am surprised, pleased, and honored to be among such company. I am grateful for this honor and have every intention of continuing to serve the GOCE. Thank you all. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:00, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors February 2017 News

Guild of Copy Editors February 2017 News Hello everyone, and welcome to the February 2017 GOCE newsletter. The Guild has been busy since the last time your coordinators sent out a newsletter! >>> Sign up for the March Drive! <<< December blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 11 through 17 December; the themes were Requests and eliminating the November 2015 backlog. Of the 14 editors who signed up, nine editors completed 29 articles. Barnstars and rollover totals are located here. Thanks to all who took part. January drive: The January drive was a great success. We set out to remove December 2015 and January and February 2016 from our backlog (195 articles), and by 22 January we had cleared those and had to add a third month (March 2016). At the end of the month we had almost cleared out that last month as well, for a total of 180 old articles removed from the backlog! We reduced our overall backlog by 337 articles, to a low of 1,465 articles, our second-lowest month-end total ever. We also handled all of the remaining requests from December 2016. Officially, 19 editors recorded 337 copy edits (over 679,000 words). February blitz: The one-week February blitz, focusing on the remaining March 2016 backlog and January 2017 requests, ran from 12 to 18 February. Seven editors reduced the total in those two backlog segments from 32 to 10 articles, leaving us in good shape going in to the March drive. Coordinator elections for the first half of 2017: In December, coordinators for the first half of 2017 were elected. Jonesey95 stepped aside as lead coordinator, remaining as coordinator and allowing Miniapolis to be the lead, and Tdslk and Corinne returned as coordinators. Thanks to all who participated! Speaking of coordinators, congratulations to Jonesey95 on their well-deserved induction into the Guild of Copy Editors Hall of Fame. The plaque reads: "For dedicated service as lead coordinator (2014, 1 July – 31 December 2015 and all of 2016) and coordinator (1 January – 30 June 2015 and 1 January – 30 June 2017); exceptional template-creation work (considerably streamlining project administration), and their emphasis on keeping the GOCE a drama-free zone." Housekeeping note: We do not send a newsletter before every drive or blitz. To have a better chance of knowing when the next event will start, add the GOCE's message box to your watchlist. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Miniapolis, Jonesey95, Corinne and Tdslk. >>> Sign up for the March Drive! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:21, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Hall

Welcome to the Hall. Great work!!! It feels like nothing else. Lfstevens (talk) 07:32, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm in good company. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:28, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

February blitz bling

		The Minor Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling between 1 and 1,999 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE February 2017 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 15:02, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

spaces

Thank you, Jonesey. I figured that out later. But the problem is that he is messing up the quotations in legal articles and violating Bluebook rules for legal writing. It should stop (voluntarily) or become the subject of a discussion to reach consensus. It has been discussed before and resolved that US legal articles should follow Bluebook style. PraeceptorIP (talk) 21:42, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Please respond to the original discussion thread, per WP:MULTI. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:00, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

New GOCE member seeking feedback

Hi, I'm new to the GOCE and copyeditting but am very eager to help out. I have copyedited some articles already, and were wondering if you had the time to look over my work and let me know how I did and where to improve. I would appreciate any help you can give me. Yadobaron (talk) 23:52, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Yadobaron, thank you for your enthusiasm. Here are a few comments:

• In this edit, you made some real improvements, but you left some capital letters in the middle of sentences, and you left a few ungrammatical sentences such as "A driving licence is required in the England, Scotland, and Wales..." and "...a driver may hold only a provisional licence and are subject to certain conditions." "Except for Northern Ireland" should be "Except in Northern Ireland". I did not look at every change. It was not clear to me why a chunk of sourced text was removed or why a chunk of unsourced text was added, with a "citation needed" template dated "June 2014".
• In this edit, the phrasing "located to Dhaka, Bangladesh" is strange to me. You added an external link to the prose, which is generally frowned upon. "Contact" should be "contract". You made some improvements as well.
• This edit looks like an improvement overall. I may have missed one or two things, but I did not see any major problems in a quick review.

Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for the edits! – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:37, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Help with new template

Hi there User:Jonesey95, I established {{Cite NSW SHR}} to link to a searchable database of the NSW State Heritage Register. I modelled creation of the template against the {{Cite VHD}} template. However, the link does not appear to be working on the new template - in that it takes me to the searchable data of the Victorian Heritage Register, and not the NSW register. I have tried to fix it, but can't seem to solve the problem. Do you have any hints? Many thanks. Rangasyd (talk) 06:55, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Shouldn't your template be using:

|url=http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/heritageapp/ViewHeritageItemDetails.aspx?ID={{{1}}}

—Trappist the monk (talk) 10:23, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

That works for me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:07, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank to you both. Rangasyd (talk) 11:43, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Art+Feminism @ Portland Institute for Contemporary Art (March 18, 2017)

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Hope to see you there! -MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:46, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Problem related to {{Graphic novel list}} error tracking change.

Hello there Jonesey,

I was busy cleaning Category:Pages with ISBN errors and came across an ISBN error on the page Zaregoto Series. This page has a peculiarity in the "LicensedISBN" template parameter: It lists two separate ISBN numbers separated by a html linebreak. The template parameter documentation suggests this is a correct method for listing multiple ISBN numbers in the template.

Currently the added ISBN check code in the template seems to be unable to parse this method correctly (Sandbox testcase). If multiple ISBN's are added it will always list the ISBN as being invalid despite both ISBN's being incorrect. Template coding is definitely not my forte so i cannot judge if this can be resolved within the template, or if listing multiple ISBN's should simply be deprecated as a functionality. The ISBN error category only lists this specific page as being problematic so my assumption is that multiple ISBN listings are not commonly used. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 11:18, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

I have updated the template to use the {{ISBN}} template, per the results of a recent RFC at Village Pump/Proposals. I adjusted the documentation accordingly, and hacked the article in question to put the second ISBN in a "note" parameter. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:53, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Template-space pages using ISBN magic links

Note to self (and tps types). The low-hanging fruit: Template-space pages using ISBN magic links. Fix these to fix any pages that transclude them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:03, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Nice tool for ISBN check and hyphenation.

Hi, re this in response to this: here is a nice tool that you can use for checking and hyphenating ISBNs: http://ataraxic.net/isbn-tool/prototype . See also [[4]]. Cheers. -

DVdm: Thanks for cleaning up after me. I noticed that my first fix had not removed the page from Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia/ISBN errors, but by the time I got back to it, you had already fixed it. Nice work. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:30, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

No problem. FYI, I use an add-on in Firefox ("MoreSearchContextMenu") that allows me to select/right-click an ISBN, and then directly open this tool with the selection as input in a new browser tab. The tool allows click-selection of the hyphenated result. Makes things easy :-) - DVdm (talk) 20:39, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Script error?

Thanks for pointing out the error in the edit I made. It's possible I accidentally deleted that character just in the process of scrolling or something. I'll watch for that. --Jprg1966 ^(talk) 21:37, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Please do chime in

Notability within bios (more specifically

application of wp:GNG/wp:BIO against wp:AUTH/wp:PROF...and both vis-a-vis vagaries of actual practice!)

I.e. - Is Matthew Grow, editor of The Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846 (The Church Historian's Press, which is an imprint of Deseret Book; 2016), notable? Is Benjamin E. Park, who reviews him here: "The Mormon Council of Fifty: What Joseph Smith’s Secret Records Reveal" (Religion & Politics, September 9, 2016)? Please chime in on a way to determine such questions in a much more consistent manner than at present...here: User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Suggested_fix.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 19:51, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Please proofread your writing before exposing it to so many people. I recommend reading your writing aloud as a way of proofreading it.

The discussion linked above should be had at a Notability talk page. Also, since you state your opinion in the first sentence above, this could be seen as canvassing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:56, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Nepal Scouts

Thank you for fixing Nepal Scouts! I tried to change the skintone, it messed up again.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

I believe that the problem exists because File:WikiProject Scouting uniform template female sariskirtM.svg, showing the legs in a medium skintone, does not exist. If it is created, the female sari skirt with skintone=M will work. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:28, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

March drive bling

		The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 8,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE March 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 16:56, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:03, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Redirected categories

Resolved

Hello, Jonesey95 - I see you recently created a series of new redirects in the Category: namespace that redirect to templates; one example is Category:ISO 639 name ain-Kana. This is undesirable; technical limitations in the Mediawiki category system mean that there is no simple way for any reader to see pages that are contained in one of these categories. It would be much better to remove the redirects and instead create a brief description page for each of these categories. Please see Help:Categories for more information. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:52, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes, that was my mistake. I have created a few hundred of these Template redirects, but the new error-detection code in {{lang}} uses a fake category to identify missing templates, and that led me to create a few categories instead of Templates. All of those Category:ISO 639 name... pages should be moved to Template:ISO 639 name ... without leaving a redirect. I don't have time to do it right now (IRL stuff), but I will make sure it happens. I very much appreciate being notified of this error.

For any stalkers who want to fix this, here's the list that need to be moved to Template space without leaving a redirect:

• Category:ISO 639 name ain-Kana
• Category:ISO 639 name aqc-Cyrl
• Category:ISO 639 name zha-Latn
• Category:ISO 639 name sah-Cyrl
• Category:ISO 639 name no-Latn
• Category:ISO 639 name ky-Cyrl
• Category:ISO 639 name kab-Latn
• Category:ISO 639 name udm-Cyrl
• Category:ISO 639 name kkc-Latn
• Category:ISO 639 name mi-Latn
• Category:ISO 639 name kgp-latn
• Category:ISO 639 name ka-Kanl

Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:30, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

I have moved all of these pages to Template space and marked the original pages with {{db-error}}. Thanks again, R'n'B, for letting me know about my error. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:50, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

All deleted, per WP:CSD#G7. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:00, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Gilgit-Baltistan

Should the title of the article Gilgit-Baltistan have an en-dash? If so, would you have time to change it?  – Corinne (talk) 15:25, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

I think a hyphen is correct. See the section of MOS:DASH that is headed "Generally, use a hyphen in compounded proper names of single entities." – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:42, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Yu Kanda

Grettings. Thanks for trying to copy-edit Yu Kanda. If you find anything confusing just ask me. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 22:35, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Tintor2. The section about creation and design is overly detailed and very confusing. Why is it important for the reader to know that the illustrator found specific characters easier or more difficult to draw? I recommend cutting that section significantly.

I put a few "clarify" templates in the article in places where I could not understand the text well enough to copy-edit it.

I am done up through "Personality" and will work on "Appearances" next. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

I have finished the copy edit. If you are able to address the "clarify" sentences, I will return to the article and make one more pass through it. P.S. I found almost everything about this article confusing, but I did my best. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:14, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

I think I did them. Removed some though. However, I changed some names like Walker to Allen or Karma to Alma since the two are always called by their first name. Thanks.Tintor2 (talk) 00:43, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-17

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Recent changes

• New filters for recent changes are now available as a beta feature on most wikis. You can turn it on in your preferences. Remaining wikis will have the new filters on 9 May. [5]
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Problems

• Since the data centre test last week the content translation tool has been disabled. This is because of a database problem. It will be back as soon as the problem has been solved. [7]

Changes this week

• The GuidedTour extension will be enabled on all wikis. This is a tool to explain to new users how to edit. [8]
• Wiktionary will handle interlanguage links in a new way. The Cognate extension will automatically link pages with the same title between Wiktionaries. For this to work all old interlanguage links have to be removed. You can read more about this. [9]
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April blitz bling

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		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 6,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE April 2017 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 13:12, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

May drive editnotice

Editnotices fry my brain. I created the drive page, but the editnotice in the signup button still links to the January barnstars (not March). I created an editnotice linking to the March barnstars, but can't get the damn thing to replace the one linking to January; purging the page didn't help. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your help and all the best, Miniapolis 02:51, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

I am sure there is a better location for the instructions for coordinators. The sneaky page in question is Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Intro. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:07, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

When my brain is fried, I depend on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators/Task list to remind me of each step. Any questions? – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:08, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks; I tend to leave hidden stuff hidden :-). When the task-list subpage was written, the GOCE was new and had more help; I find it too much work for one or two people. BTW, would you like to return as lead coordinator in June? All the best, Miniapolis 13:21, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

I enjoy the "task list" work, but it means I don't have too much time for copy editing. That is actually OK with me; I'm more of a gnome. And yes, I'd be happy to lead again for the second half of 2017. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:09, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

You've made my day :-), and I'm happy to stay on as coordinator if you need a warm body. All the best, Miniapolis 22:34, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

We will definitely need a warm body now and again, in addition to your valuable work at Requests. I don't always have good internet access around Drive-opening time. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:36, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon @ PNCA Library (April 29, 2017)

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• Scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. This is the same thing as Tech News wrote about in issue 2017/16. You need to add mw.loader.using( 'mediawiki.util' ) block for your scripts also, or add mediawiki.util dependency in gadget ResourceLoader section in MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition. [10][11]

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Meetup Invitation

You are invited to the upcoming Asian Pacific American Heritage month edit-athon.

This will be held on the first floor of the Knight library at the University of Oregon.

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Help w/ template

You used black magic to fix Template:Meetups in Portland, Oregon, but I'm still having trouble getting the column widths equal at Template:Prague Castle. Can you tell how to make the "Churches", "Palaces", and "Courtyards" cells the same width? I don't know why I'm struggling with this so much, lol. I'd appreciate some more magic, if you have a moment to cast a spell. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:10, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Fixed. On the previous one, you had too many subgroup templates. I consolidated them. On this one, you had three subgroup templates, and you needed only two. I grouped two of them into one. To make the two remaining ones the same, I added |groupwidth= with a reasonably large value so that people with (reasonably) larger fonts would not get wrapping or crowding of the labels. Stop by any time. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:56, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I really did try to figure this out on my own. I've worked with much more complicated template, but this had me scratching my head. Thanks again! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:29, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

GOCE election time

Thanks again (in advance) for running the barnstar script. To set up the election, should I just copy-paste-tweak Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators/2017/1? All the best, Miniapolis 13:01, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Great minds think alike. I created it yesterday. Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators/2017/2. Adjust as needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:41, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Austria-Hungary

Hello, Jonesey95 - Shouldn't Austria-Hungary be separated by an en-dash?  – Corinne (talk) 01:31, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

I think it most closely resembles the section of MOS:DASH headed "Generally, use a hyphen in compounded proper names of single entities." It's always helpful to look in the talk page or its archive to see if a discussion has resulted in the current article name. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:41, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

GOCE May 2017 drive bling

		The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 8,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE May 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 17:46, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:54, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Infobox islands

Something you did at {{Infobox islands}} has caused a number of articles (about 120 so far) to appear in Category:Pages with malformed coordinate tags. I know little about templates, but I suspect that this has something to do with the infoboxes' dragging coordinates from Wikidata when the articles already contained {{coord}} elsewhere. I'm an avowed opponent of the indiscriminate importation of Wikidata coordinates into en.wp, so I'll leave you to deal with this matter in whatever way seems best to you. Deor (talk) 16:03, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Deor: I see what is happening, and I will work on fixing it. I thought that I had not changed the logic in the template, but I must be wrong. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:17, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Deor: Fixed, I believe. I restored the undocumented |coordinates_wikidata= parameter and updated the documentation to explain what it does. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I am not a big fan of wikidata either (I find it unnecessarily opaque), but I try to honor the good faith intentions of previous template editors when I am updating and modifying templates. P.S. Excellent diagnosis of the problem, by the way. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:25, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate the prompt attention. Deor (talk) 17:52, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Village pump edit

Hi Jonesey95. I'm just stopping by to let you know that I've undone this edit you made to Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). It looks like the entire page was reverted back to a 2016 version. Mz7 (talk) 14:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Yikes! My mistake, I think. I thought I was editing an Archive page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:46, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Australian place

I was wondering, how close are you to converting {{Infobox Australian place}} so that editors have to manually input coordinate strings instead of having the template do it automatically? Is there a timeframe? --AussieLegend (✉) 07:41, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

We have added code to allow editors to stop using the individual latd/longd parameters and to allow the bot to convert articles like Alice Springs to use the new standard. As far as I know, no code has been removed. I put a note on our project page pointing to the text about automatic coordinates. If you have insight or an explanation about how that automation works and how we can avoid breaking it, please drop us a line at Wikipedia talk:Coordinates in infoboxes. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:02, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

P.S. I tried removing coordinates from Alice Springs, and I saw no evidence of automation. The map, pushpin, and coordinates simply disappeared. Replacing the individual parameters with {{coord}} preserved the map, pushpin, and coordinates.– Jonesey95 (talk) 12:06, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

The automation comes from using the individual parameters, along with other fields in the infobox, to form the correct coordinate string for each place, rather than having to manually add one, as apparently is the idea now, as well as driving the pushpin map. When I converted the infobox to use {{infobox}} in 2012 I found thousands of articles with improperly formatted coordinate strings, as the result of editors being confused about how to use {{coord}}. Since then the infobox has been modified to cover several different types of places (some non-standard) beyond what it originally did. --12:46, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Is there something wrong with the example {{coord}} template on the template's documentation page or at Template:Infobox Australian place/Blank? They look good to me. We have converted about 400,000 pages to the standard |coordinates= parameter so far, and we have had very few problems or objections. Before conversion of these 200+ infobox templates, they all used slightly different parameters (see the partial list of examples at the top of the project page). That led to confusion and inconsistency among infoboxes, which led to the August 2016 RfC, which led to the conversion that you are seeing now. I hope that makes sense and that you can understand the big-picture consistency improvements that result from this change.

The reason that I was confused by your reference to automation was that the situation before this conversion was what I would consider the opposite of automation: Editors had to correctly fill in six to ten different parameters correctly in order for the coordinates to render correctly. Now they have to fill in only a few numbers after copying and pasting the example string from the documentation. That seems easier and less error-prone to me, and was one of the reasons for the RfC. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:35, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Infobox coords

Greetings Jonesey95, does this mean that the lat and long are unnecessary? I had a look at the link but it's written for someone far more adept than me. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 08:47, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

We have updated all infoboxes to use |coordinates= with the {{coord}} template instead of using individual lat and long parameters. This means that we no longer need Infobox coord, because it existed only to put lat and long parameters into the {{coord}} template. The new infoboxes are much more consistent and are working well. If you want to read the original RFC, it is at this link. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:49, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, will people begin removing the lat long parameters like you did and will it also apply to location maps like the one here [12]? RegardsKeith-264 (talk) 14:32, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Nearly all lat/long parameters have been removed from infoboxes. There are something like 10,000 to 20,000 pages left to update, out of an original list of over 400,000.

The {{Location map}} template is not affected, although it was updated to allow use of |coordinates= with the {{coord}} template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:44, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you.Keith-264 (talk) 18:17, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Do the contents of a {{coord XXXX}} after the numbers make any difference? Keith-264 (talk) 15:18, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes. See Template:Coord for an explanation of the parameters and what they do. The |display= parameter, for example, controls whether the coordinates display in the "title" (at the upper right corner of the page), "inline" (in the infobox, typically), or both. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:25, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Some sort of glitch in mobile veiw

Hi,
The following are the screenshots of two pages. They are looking normal from desktop, but not from mobile devices (looked at it from iPad, and BlackBerry). Not sure where the problem is. Would you please take a look into that? Thanks a lot.

• 
  WP:RFR 1
• 
  WP:RFR 2
• 
  WP:RFP/NPR

—usernamekiran(talk) 19:11, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Help on an infobox

Hi, Jonesey95... I was wondering if you could help me out at Template:Infobox college baseball team and Template:Infobox college basketball team? I recently added the |athletic_director = parameter to the infoboxes, but it doesn't seem to be optional... How do I make it an optional parameter? See how it is affecting articles such as Central Connecticut Blue Devils baseball and Texas–Rio Grande Valley Vaqueros men's basketball. It doesn't do that on all articles, but it does on some. I'm new at the whole template editing thing and I don't do much with the infoboxes so any help would be great! Thanks, Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 21:45, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

I've fixed it by adding a | see the diff for details. -- WOSlinker (talk) 22:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, WOSlinker! Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 22:12, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks to my helpful talk page stalkers! Contribute any time. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:26, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride at PNCA: Tuesday, June 27

You are invited to the upcoming Wiki Loves Pride edit-athon, which will be held at the Pacific Northwest College of Art (511 NW Broadway) on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, from 5–8pm. For more information, visit the meetup page or Facebook event page.

Hope to see you there! -MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:38, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Deprod: How to Eat to Live

Hello, I have deprodded How to Eat to Live on procedural grounds. It has been discussed at AfD before and thus can't be prodded ever again. If you still wish to pursue deletion, feel free to take it back to AfD. Cheers, —KuyaBriBri^Talk 15:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't care that much, sorry. AfD nominations are a pain without Twinkle, and Twinkle messes up my top menu too much to have it running all the time. Seven years since the AfD and still it has no sources? I don't see the rationale behind WP policies sometimes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:28, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

If you'd like, I can open a nomination on your behalf, with your original prod nomination. Your call. Just make sure to use a {{reply|Kuyabribri}} tag to catch my attention.

For what it's worth the reason for the no prod after AfD policy is that prod is only for uncontroversial deletions that no one would oppose, and the fact that the article was kept at AfD (or had no consensus, in this case) means that deletion was suggested in the past and was opposed in good faith. Thanks. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 16:07, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-28

[trimmed]

• We will not use Tidy on Wikimedia wikis in the future. It will be replaced by June 2018. It could be earlier. Editors will need to fix pages that could break. You can read the simplified instructions for editors.

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You know something

I think your edit summary was impollite. I removed something that appears empty when reading/printing the current version of the page and you added something that potentially ocould help in case the person who adds a ref forgets to add the section. Wy do you have such strong opinion that your edit was "more contructive" than mine? See for example T100741. PS It's a calm question. I hope you don't misread my question. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

If an article has no references, it's better to add a reference than to remove the References section. Edit warring is definitely worse than either of those things. Or, as Template:Unreferenced says: "This article does not cite any sources. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed." My calm opinion only. Others may rightly disagree (except about the edit warring). – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:51, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

OK. You have a point. Adding this somewhere in the documentation would lead in more discussions and I don't have the spare time for that at the moment. I am already on vacation on a Greek island :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:54, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Ignoreblank on Infobox video game

Hi Jonesey. We deliberately removed ignoreblank to populate the category, just two weeks back. Empty parameters lead editors who see them to sometimes fill them in. Or sometimes, a valid but empty parameter is misspelled. Would like to make an effort to clean them all up, and have been working on it already. After PrimeBOT completes, the category will be much cleaner, but not all of the past parameters are included in Primebot's run. -- ferret (talk) 21:59, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed that on the talk page. The module is hardly ever configured that way, so I figured that it was an oversight. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:23, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

No problem. I am actively working through it in small batches. Would prefer to get everything cleaned up so we can always see whats going on, where people are making mistakes, etc., and take action (Cleanup, fix, discuss addition of a field, etc) -- ferret (talk) 19:23, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Nathan Rothschild, 1st Baron Rothschild

Hello, Jonesey95 - What do you think of this edit to Nathan Rothschild, 1st Baron Rothschild? Can the name in the first line in an article be different from the name in the title?  – Corinne (talk) 20:46, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

See Art Garfunkel for another example. And see MOS:FULLNAME for the relevant MOS section. The article's talk page has a seven-year-old proposal to move the page to "Nathaniel", which is the name that many sources use. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:10, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-30

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Recent changes

• CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. This will make it easier to make templates look good on mobile devices. This now works on mediawiki.org and Wikitech. It will come to more wikis later. [13][14][15]
• .mw-ui-constructive modifier class is deprecated and has been removed. [16]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 July. It will be on all wikis from 27 July (calendar).
• It will be possible to restrict who can send you notifications on a wiki. This new feature will accessible in your preferences, in the Notifications tab, on Wednesday, July 26. Please see the documentation. [17]

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• You can join the Wikimedia Foundation July 2017 Metrics & Activities Meeting. The meeting is about how Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement are perceived and understood by the world. The meeting will be on 27 July at 19:00 (UTC). See the agenda and how to join.

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• New Filters for Edit Review, at the moment available as a Beta feature, will be released by default for the Recent Changes in September.

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Category:Pages using reflist with unknown parameters

Is there a way to search for – or gather – a list for pages that have "div col", "colbegin", "refbegin" and other kinds of methods people would use to column-ize the reflist? I've seen pages with this. If not, that's okay, I'm just curious. --Jennica✿ / ^talk 05:26, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

@Jennica: You could try entering the following in the search box – insource:"reflist|div col"

There is more info at Help:Searching – Reidgreg (talk) 09:35, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! I found 100 articles! --Jennica✿ / ^talk 09:36, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

A query with hastemplate:div_col hastemplate:reflist will find you 100k articles where both are present. I could think of no way using Special:Search to identify articles where these two templates were adjacent and on separate lines, since I do not think that Special:Search can look over multiple lines (I am perhaps mistaken and would more-than-appreciate knowing how to do that, with regex or otherwise). --Izno (talk) 12:08, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

@Izno: I cleaned all the one with the search Reidgreg provided - it did show results where div and reflist were near each other. Not all of them were div cols wrapped in reflist. I resolved all of them so far. --Jennica✿ / ^talk 11:26, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

GOCE July 2017 drive bling

		The Minor Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling between 1 and 3,999 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE July 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 12:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Thought you'd be a good guniea pig to award the first barnstar from the drive. Seems to work. Lucky for me, somebody made this easy! – Reidgreg (talk) 12:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Reidgreg: Thanks, and thanks for giving out the rest of the barnstars! – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:08, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

User page layout

Hi Jonesey,

I really like how you've organized your user page and have used the same layout on mine. It's very simple and organized. Just wanted you to know! Thanks!

David Thibault (talk) 21:26, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

David Thibault: Thanks! You are welcome to copy it. I copied it from someone else years ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! David Thibault (talk) 14:04, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Blitz template instructions

Thanks for catching and reverting my mistake! (I should have known the asterisk was intentional.) Do you think it would be okay to put that copy&paste text in <pre></pre> markup like the examples before it? – Reidgreg (talk) 21:35, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

That probably makes sense. There should be some markup that makes it more obvious that it is a cut and paste example. Try it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:21, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Haldighati

Hi, thanks for your ce of Battle of Haldighati the other day. I've expanded the article some more and am more or less done with it. Could you please give it a once-over when you have the time? No pressure. Thanks :)--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 18:45, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Is there no way to get a sub-heading without it cluttering up the TOC?--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 07:42, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

H:LIMITTOC

—Trappist the monk (talk) 10:14, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you both.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 14:49, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Cpt.a.haddock: I have completed this copy-edit. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:40, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much. It reads a lot better now.—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 11:11, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Removal of documentation maintenance template

You have removed {{Improve documentation}} with Special:Diff/794894749/794953128 without improving the documentation. Please create Module:Citation/CS1/Arguments/doc with {{Improve documentation}}. 2001:2003:54FA:D2:0:0:0:1 (talk) 15:54, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

• The template was incorrectly placed on a talk page instead of a template documentation page, so I removed it. You are welcome to create the page in question, improve the documentation of the page, or both. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:17, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Sorry for the delayed reply, but there lies the problem.

    The template documentation page currently doesn't exist, and anonymous contributors can't create them without going through Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests (or {{Edit semi-protected}} on the talk page?). The template itself is only editable by administrators, so I cannot use inline {{Documentation}} or I would have to use {{Edit fully-protected}} on the talk page, neither completely satisfactory. Adding {{Documentation}} to the talk page was the easiest of options to do, while I acknowledge it's also not correct.

    Would you please help? 2001:2003:54FA:D2:0:0:0:1 (talk) 15:15, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

• I also note a redirect from Module talk:Citation/CS1/Arguments/doc should be created to Help talk:Citation Style 1, to be consistent with other CS1 modules/templates. 2001:2003:54FA:D2:0:0:0:1 (talk) 20:02, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
• There's now an edit request at Help talk:Citation Style 1 to do this. Some {{Improve documentation}} template tags are still on the talk pages. 2001:2003:54FA:D2:0:0:0:1 (talk) 20:33, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

British Somaliland

There is currently a dispute on which are the successor states to the former entity. Because you have edited country templates I decided to contact you. 92.13.137.81 (talk) 20:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Identifier error handling / doi-broken-links / identifier order at Help talk:CS1

Could you take a look at those? They've been outstanding requests for a long while now. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:40, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

I will. I don't know if I have the Lua chops to do anything about them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:46, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

GOCE August 2017 Blitz Bling

		The Modest Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 2,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE August 2017 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Keira1996 07:45, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Alexa rank

Hi @jonesey95, How can i add the alexa rank for my website ti wiki infobox. Regards, PawanK 16:37, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

You can't. It is not one of the options. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:15, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

breaks and plainlists

Just so you know, fixing breaks with plainlists in {{geobox}} is a suboptimal fix, per the discussion at Template talk:Geobox#Special:LintErrors/pwrap-bug-workaround. I'll invite you to the now-ongoing discussion there as a result! --Izno (talk) 22:20, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Some parameters appear to not be indexed. What is the optimal fix for |category= in this edit? – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:27, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

It looks like |category= can take a plainlist and that it is the |plant= "fix" causing the issue on that page. Good luck remembering which ones are indexed and which ones aren't. *grin* --Izno (talk) 22:31, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Reverts

Didn't understand the message on your two reverts of my edits. Can you please explain? Thanks. Lfstevens (talk) 19:16, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

I rolled back a bunch of tag spamming by one or more IP editors who were tagging (100+) articles for copy editing. I may have undone a couple of your edits in the process. I'll check my reverts and correct any errors I find. Sorry about that. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:00, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

I think I have caught all of my errors. Thanks to BD2412 and BlueMoonset for each catching at least one. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:13, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:Realist listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Realist. Since you had some involvement with the Template:Realist redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. --Nevé–selbert 14:20, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you.

Hard to believe it's been nearly a year since you fixed an html error on my user page! And I'm just getting around to thanking you. Of course it's been ages since I logged in, one of the problems with having been incompletely assimilated when the Wikipedia Collective swept through my quadrant of the galaxy. And real spacetime is so different from Wikipedia, it's like a whole other planet here beyond the glass! Thanks again. Back in another year or so. Trilobitealive (talk) 01:25, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Research on Backlogs

Hi Jonesey95,

I'm Pau Giner, a member of the Wikimedia Design team. We are interested in providing better support to some of the activities that experienced editors do. In particular, we want to understand better how backlogs work and the issues that users may find when adding the work to be done, and finding/completing this work.

We are organising a series of short interview sessions, and we consider you as an experienced editor are an ideal candidate to participate. In order to participate you can fill this form that collects the basic information for us to schedule a session and contact you back. If you know other users that may provide useful information in this area, feel free to recommend them to participate too.

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Thanks!

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September GOCE bling

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 12,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE September 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 00:44, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Articles, 3rd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copyediting 14 articles during the GOCE September 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 00:44, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Old Articles, 3rd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copyediting 14 old articles during the GOCE September 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 00:44, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Be as ornery as you like!

Your "ocd" is no big deal considering the context; the one that really drives me nuts is when I see news stories that use "Aids" rather than "AIDS". It is an acronym! LOL! —D'Ranged 1 | VT^alk : 

It's madness out there. My favorite bugbear is "premier"/"premiere". How hard can it be? Pretty hard, I guess. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:57, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Well, to be fair, both can be used as nouns (although in the case of "premier", the usage as a noun is very specific) or adjectives (although "premier" is the preferred adjective, it is still correct to use "premiere" as one), but only "premiere" is a verb (although many consider that to be substandard English), so that's a bit more nuanced. [See premier and premiere at Webster's.] It's interesting to me that neither Grammarist nor Writing Explained even mention that "premiere" is also an adjective. This blogger has a brief post that covers all the bases with quotes from her sources. So, yes, pretty hard.

I have a long list of misused spellings, beginning with "its/it's"; I still find it hard to believe that folks can't understand that one. I also often see flubs when it comes to "there/their/they're", "to/too"; "affect/effect"; etc. I actually saw an online news article about events in the U.S. Congress that referenced "across the isle" rather than "across the aisle". If the paid, so-called "professional journalists" can't get it right, there's no hope. Other great examples are to be found at "Why copy editors are still valuable to the news industry" and "A consise argument for copy editors" (Despite evidence to the contrary, I do know what "concise" means, btw.) —D'Ranged 1 | VT^alk :  22:58, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

@D'Ranged 1: Re "Aids", there is a logic behind it, described at Acronym#Pronunciation-dependent style and case. To proponents of the logic, writing AIDS would suggest a pronunciation of "ay eye dee ess". Applying a coherent rationale we disagree with is a little different from not applying a coherent rationale. Sorry for the late comment. ―Mandruss ☎ 05:12, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Got a question for you, sir!

I've been reading wikipedia for many years, and recently decided to start copy editing articles that I read. (Lord knows, many need it.) I have a question for you: What is the best edit comment to leave when fixing awkward phrasing? I don't know if it's necessarily "grammar"; here is an example:

Solomon believes that his son is alive, just perhaps not in the U.S.

This is a bit unwieldy; I would prefer:

Solomon believes that his son is alive, perhaps not in the U.S.

See what I mean? Maybe I'm looking to make things read a little more encyclopedic, even if the grammar is not technically incorrect. I think a lot of times it's about economy of language; sometimes people add superfluous words to a sentence, in the mistaken belief that all good sentences are long. Believe me, I'm guilty of long sentences. However, I often come upon sentences that, while containing vital information, are "padded". How would I label such edits? Am I being pedantic here? :) Thanks for any advice. Mercster (talk) 23:05, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Many editors use a summary like "copy edit" or "minor copy edits" when making a change like the one above. Some people like to abbreviate to "ce", but I try not to do so, as I find it takes the same amount of time to type and may confuse people who are unfamiliar with abbreviations. – Jonesey95 (talk) 10:26, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

reference tags

Thank you @Jonesey95: for fixing references History of Medicine Society. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:48, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome! Happy editing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:05, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

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Perineometer revert

Thanks for catching that! I'm really not sure how that happened, I don't recall even editing this article (although I certainly read it). mathrick (talk) 18:19, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

It was a strange one, especially since your other contributions during the time period were completely normal and helpful edits. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:37, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Blitz

Hello, Jonesey95! I'm a writer working on a language blog for the New Yorker website, and was hoping to write a post about the October blitz and/ or Wikipedia copyediting more generally. Might you be able to answer a few questions? If so please let me know the best way to get in touch with you. Thank you! Bananakarenina (talk) 03:46, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Let's start here, if that works for you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Care Quality Commission

Hi there, any particular reason you removed the logo from page? This was not described in the update summary. Millstream3 (talk) 12:36, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Millstream3 My mistake. I was removing unsupported parameters, and the logo got swept into the trash. I have restored it. Thank you for notifying me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:28, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

No problem - easily done! Cheers, Millstream3 (talk) 15:45, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

GOCE October 2017 Blitz bling

		The Modest Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 2,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE October 2017 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 16:49, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Party of horse

That wording doesn't bother me; maybe I've read too many fantasy novels. I take it as short for "horse regiment", or thereabouts. Thanks for the cleanup efforts! --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Fascinating! I had never seen the phrase before, but I did a Google search for "party of horse" (in quotation marks), and I found many usages of the phrase. It appears to be most common in non-modern British English writing. I have never seen it used in contemporary writing or in US English. (For my tps readers, the article in question is Charles I's journey from Oxford to the Scottish army camp near Newark.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:04, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for this edit.

I see you have already been discussing horse. In primary sources of that period the terms used are Foot, Horse and Dragoons, for infantry, cavalry and dragoons. This is carried through to many secondary sources and into Wikipedia see for example the first cavalry battle of the Civil War Battle of Powick Bridge where the number are given as 1,000 horse on each side, or see foot soldier redirect to infantry and see List of Regiments of Foot. If you think that the terms are not widely understood I suggest that you ether link the terms foot regiments, party of horse, or alternativly put infantry or cavalry in brackets after the first use of the term "foot (infantry), horse (cavalry)".

However the major reason for this post is to question you change of the following:

• Gardiner's Hist. Of the Civil War. III. 88. → Gardiner 1889, p. 88
• Claradon's Hist Rebellion 490 → Clarendon 1888, p. 490

are you sure that is correct? I ask because I do no, because the works in question are multi-volume and there are many editions and only one volume of each are listed. What is missing on the first of those two citation is that it should start "Brown 1904, p. 109 cites" -- PBS (talk) 13:11, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Hmm, "cites Claradon's Hist Rebellion 490" was clearly wrong, but in what way? I had some rationale for my edits a few days ago, but I don't remember it now. I am not sure that either of those is correct. If you have better information, you should definitely modify my edits. If not, a comment on the talk page and an HTML comment in the article with a cn or similar tag might be needed. Thanks for catching this. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:56, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

compass points

With this edit you changed north-west to northwest. FYI see MOS:COMPASS. -- PBS (talk) 21:52, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I got to learn something today. I did not know that British English hyphenated those words. Someone might want to tag that article with a British English template. I did keep all of the "...our" spellings and other Britishisms, as far as I know. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:43, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Lovelock

See my new redirect "lovelock (hair)". Until I read the cited source I did not know Charles I had one. I thought that the Elizabethan lovelock was common knowledge (see 1550–1600 in Western European fashion#Hairstyles and headgear 2), as apparently it is not, I've created the redirect and I am adding the link as suggested to Charly's journey. -- PBS (talk) 17:14, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Infobox settlement cleanup

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bot_requests&diff=809276844&oldid=809275234 77.179.11.240 (talk) 04:02, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Getting started with the drive

Hello! I'm just getting started with the Guild of Copy editors and was wondering if I'm doing everything right so far. Currently, I've edited The A.V. Club and Batman: Under the Red Hood. I was wondering if I accounted for the drive numbers correctly and if the copy edits were satisfactory. Any other advice you have would be great too. Thanks! HRouillier (talk) 18:54, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Recent dummy edits: Feel free to delete!

Hi!

I am just writing to inform you of a couple recent dummy edits I made at the Environmental racism in Europe article. Please feel free to delete! I reverted and reinstated my own edit on several occasions; apologies for any confusion. An incorrect edit by another user was made to the first sentence of the lead section (so I felt a need to fix it immediately), however, in my haste I found myself needing to re-word my rationale (which, again, I felt was necessary since this was the lead sentence).

Thanks! Sincerely,Sturgeontransformer (talk) 07:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

No problem. I always find that slowing down helps. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:09, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding! Yep, and good advice to heed - I'll learn :) Sturgeontransformer (talk) 15:53, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Figure 1

Re Figure 1: Can the green in the map be changed to another color(such as yellow), as roughly 7% of the male population suffers from red/green color blindness? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.111.116 (talk) 14:51, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

62.254.111.116: Sorry, I don't know what article you are referring to. Can you please link to the article you are talking about? I edit many articles, typically minor edits to clean up an error. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:36, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Help citation bot pages

Jonesey95: Could you use your magic powers to delete this files: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot#Bot_Pages_need_cleaned_up They are a bunch of outdated files within the Citation Bot hierarchy. All testing has been moved to GitHub and all the exclusions, etc. are now built into the source code. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 22:01, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

I have removed the linked pages from the list and I have updated some links. All the ones on the list should be good to be deleted AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:43, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect redirects in Spanish

Template:Ficha de libro listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Ficha de libro (+ 3 more). Since you had some involvement with the Template:Ficha de libro redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. . Wikisaurus (talk) 17:02, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification. That was polite of you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:51, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2017-49

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Changes later this week
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query

Did I answer your questions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates? You have not returned to comment.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:08, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, well done. I have marked my initial comment with strike formatting. I have no opinion on the question itself; I've just seen too many RFCs go off the rails for want of a clear initial problem statement. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:22, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewing

Hello, Jonesey95. I noticed you've done some constructive editing recently. Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 06:30, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, but that looks like too much drama for me. I am sure that I would mark too many pages as speedy deletes and get a bunch of static from bozos. I prefer gnoming. Thanks for noticing my constructive edit, though. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:13, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

I can see it now:

Reporter: So, Mr Jonesey, have you had any complaints in wiki land? The Big J: Not a one that I listened to

I would have the same problem 😄 AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:24, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Yep. I have a few admins' talk pages on my watchlists, and the ones who delete pages get a lot of incomprehensible junk from people who don't know which end is up. I don't have the patience for it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:30, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Haha, yeah it definitely is not for everyone. No worries. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 08:46, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

November 2017 GOCE Drive awards

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 20,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE November 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 18:22, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Long Articles, 5th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copyediting 1 long article during the GOCE November 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 18:22, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Old Articles, 5th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copyediting eight old articles during the GOCE November 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 18:22, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Longest Article, 3rd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copyediting one of the five longest articles – 7,972 words – during the GOCE November 2017 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 18:22, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Here you go! – Reidgreg (talk) 18:22, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Guild Newsletter / Drive announcement

I have not received any "mail" from the copyrighters guild since Feb 2017 I have not removed my name from any mailing list that I am aware of and wondered what the reason for this was?Amanda138a (talk) 00:23, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

We haven't sent a newsletter since February. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Newsletters. We are overdue for one. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:31, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Strange revert

[20]. Why did you revert? Please explain. --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:32, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

The previous edit caused a red error message in one of the citations, and the resulting article contained too many duplicate links. Please see MOS:REPEATLINK. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I see. But do you think your edit made Wikipedia better? You could have simply unlinked the article "Je veux (Zaz song)" a couple of times (where I accidentally linked it inside a ref template and one more time). You simply removed all the links to newly created articles I added. And here too: [21]. One link caused the citation error, but the other two were correct. --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:45, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

I do think that my revert made the article better. It no longer had a red error message, and the article was no longer in violation of the MOS guideline on repeating links. You are welcome to reinsert selected links now that you are aware of the guideline. An effective way to reinsert the links may be to partially revert my edit, removing the duplicate links but leaving in the rest. Happy editing! – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:50, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

GOCE script

While I was gathering info for the newsletter, I read a comment which led me to another tiny change for the GOCE Drive script:

Do While nTempWordCount > 5000

The 5000 should be changed to 4999 (or the > to >= which might be less confusing). As written, if an article is exactly 5000 words, the do loop isn't triggered to increment the count of 5k articles. (Similarly, it would get one less count if exactly 10,000, 15,000, etc.)

A bit trivial, but I thought I'd report it for the next time you go digging into the code. – Reidgreg (talk) 00:47, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Misaligned table lines

Hi Jonesey. Here's a closer-up crop of the problem. The "1802" cell is not aligned properly.--Nevé–selbert 11:36, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I see it in the screen shot, but I do not see it in any of my three web browsers when I look at the article. I suspect a mismatched rowspan, but that table is too complicated for me to dive into right now. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

I have inspected the rowspan, and I don't think that is the problem. It is likely an Internet Explorer bug.--Nevé–selbert 10:16, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Asked Microsoft about the problem in a live chat, and they seem to think that isn't a browser issue. The lines also misalign in Edge and Chrome but in different parts of the table. Also, the anchors are playing up: clicking the "Victoria" anchor results in the appearance of two lines below the Command bar, yet this does not happen with "George III".--Nevé–selbert 10:56, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

December 2017 newsletter

Jonesey95, I thought, after reading your GOCE nomination note, it might be worthwhile to draft a newsletter for you, which I've done. However, I did manual counts throughout—I didn't know about the script that Reidgreg mentions, nor did I know he was also working on a draft newsletter. It's awfully long, what with five drives, four blitzes, one completed coordinator election, and one in progress. At any rate, my draft is in my sandbox. If it is at all useful to you or to Reidgreg, please feel free to grab whatever you can from it.

It presupposes that the newsletter isn't sent until after the nominations close later today, and also that you will have a December blitz page created to go with the link included (though you could always send out the newsletter with it as a red link, to turn blue when ready). I tried to do a bit of shortening, but probably added in more than I removed. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Wow, thanks! Can you and Reidgreg get together and merge your sandbox with Reidgreg's draft at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Newsletters/December 2017? – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:48, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: Whoops! Looks like you saved yours first, but I guess easier to work on mine since it's in the designated location. I'd left some notes at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators/Archives/2017#December newsletter. But we should probably put any merge discussion at the talk page for the newsletter itself. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Holiday Greetings

	Holiday greetings and Best Wishes for a very Happy New Year. Cheers!! Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:13, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors December 2017 News

Guild of Copy Editors December 2017 News Hello copy editors! Welcome to the December 2017 GOCE newsletter, which contains nine months(!) of updates. The Guild has been busy and successful; your diligent efforts in 2017 has brought the backlog of articles requiring copy edit to below 1,000 articles for the first time. Thanks to all editors who have contributed their time and energy to help make this happen. >>> Sign up for the January Drive! <<< >>> Participate in the Coordinator Elections! <<< Our copy-editing drives (month-long backlog-reduction drives held in odd-numbered months) and blitzes (week-long themed editing in even-numbered months) have been very successful this year. March drive: We set out to remove April, May, and June 2016 from our backlog and all February 2017 Requests (a total of 304 articles). By the end of the month, all but 22 of these articles were cleared. Officially, of the 28 who signed up, 22 editors recorded 257 copy edits (439,952 words). (These numbers do not always make sense when you compare them to the overall reduction in the backlog, because not all editors record every copy edit on the drive page.) April blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 16 through 22 April; the theme was Requests. Of the 15 who signed up, 9 editors completed 43 articles (81,822 words). May drive: The goals were to remove July, August, and September 2016 from the backlog and to complete all March 2017 Requests (a total of 300 articles). By the end of the month, we had reduced our overall backlog to an all-time low of 1,388 articles. Of the 28 who signed up, 17 editors completed 187 articles (321,810 words). June blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 18 through 24 June; the theme was Requests. Of the 16 who signed up, 9 editors completed 28 copy edits (117,089 words). 2017 Coordinator elections: In June, coordinators for the second half of 2017 were elected. Jonesey95 moved back into the lead coordinator position, with Miniapolis stepping down to remain as coordinator; Tdslk and Corinne returned as coordinators, and Keira1996 rejoined after an extended absence. Thanks to all who participated! July drive: We set out to remove August, September, October, and November 2016 from the backlog and to complete all May and June 2017 Requests (a total of 242 articles). The drive was an enormous success, and the target was nearly achieved within three weeks, so that December 2016 was added to the "old articles" list used as a goal for the drive. By the end of the month, only three articles from 2016 remained, and for the second drive in a row, the backlog was reduced to a new all-time low, this time to 1,363 articles. Of the 33 who signed up, 21 editors completed 337 articles (556,482 words). August blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 20 through 26 August; the theme was biographical articles tagged for copy editing for more than six months (47 articles). Of the 13 who signed up, 11 editors completed 38 copy edits (42,589 words). September drive: The goals were to remove January, February, and March 2017 from the backlog and to complete all August 2017 Requests (a total of 338 articles). Of the 19 who signed up, 14 editors completed 121 copy edits (267,227 words). October blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 22 through 28 October; the theme was Requests. Of the 14 who signed up, 8 editors completed 20 articles (55,642 words). November drive: We set out again to remove January, February, and March 2017 from the backlog and to complete all October 2017 Requests (a total of 207 articles). By the end of the month, these goals were reached and the backlog shrank to its lowest total ever, 997 articles, the first time it had fallen under one thousand (click on the graph above to see this amazing feat in graphical form). It was also the first time that the oldest copy-edit tag was less than eight months old. Of the 25 who signed up, 16 editors completed 159 articles (285,929 words). 2018 Coordinator elections: Voting is open for the election of coordinators for the first half of 2018. Please visit the election page to vote between now and December 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Thanks for participating! Housekeeping note: We do not send a newsletter before (or after) every drive or blitz. To have a better chance of knowing when the next event will start, add the GOCE's message box to your watchlist. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Miniapolis, Corinne, Tdslk, and Keira1996. >>> Sign up for the January Drive! <<< >>> Participate in the Coordinator Elections! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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December Blitz bling

		The Modest Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 2,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE December 2017 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 18:33, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Template help

Hi Jonesey95, I need your help on some of my edits over at Template:Infobox NCAA football school/sandbox before I make the final edit at Template:Infobox NCAA football school. I want to {{nowrap}} the coach's season + record (as seen in this diff) for reasons like the Northern Illinois Huskies football article (there are others out there with the same problem). When I moved the last set of brackets to this spot, it made the infobox really wide... not sure I am needing to do as I am kind of new to the template editing, so any help I can get would be much appreciated! Thanks, Corkythehornetfan 22:22, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Note: it looks fine on the test case but it's the layout on the sandbox page that worries me. Corkythehornetfan 22:23, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

I think that the error message, which is what is making the example template so wide when it is part of a nowrapped section of text, comes from feeding the raw parameter names to {{Winning percentage}} in the template documentation, so I think it is OK in the template when it is used in articles. I think there is a way to use <noinclude>...</noinclude> statements to work around this problem, but I don't know how. Take a look at the changes I have made to simplify the sandbox in the meantime. I am done playing with it unless you have further questions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:54, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Works for me, appreciate it! I'll go ahead and apply the changes... and I'm sure Frietjes will fix the problem when she sees it. Thanks again and happy new year, Corkythehornetfan 23:01, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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