User talk:GuillaumeTell/Archive 6

Timber!

I've set the wheels turning with the aim of moving Henry J. Wood as you suggest. Please add your thoughts on the old boy's talk page. Renewed thanks for your perceptive comments and support. 19:38, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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St Mary's Church, Lead

Many thanks for discovering and adding the listing details of this church to the article and the list. I "knew" it must be a listed building, but for some reason or other I did not find it.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:00, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

(copied from my talk page to keep the discussion in one place)

Thanks for the note - we librarians enjoy ferreting things out. Sorry you had to correct the ref - I should have looked more closely at your standard format. Shouldn't the page be moved to St Mary's Chapel, Lead? That's what EH calls it, and ye olde Pevsner's West Riding (1967) just calls it "Chapel" without the dedication. I've actually visited it, years ago, before or after a trip to the Greyhound at Saxton during my CAMRA days. I wondered whether to add it to the Lead dab page but am not completely certain how "Lead" is pronounced (not that it's actually a place).

Talking of Pevsner, I have a complete collection of the English county volumes (though not always the most recent editions) and would be happy to help with the South-East article, which I see is at a fairly early stage - any suggestions for things I could do? Do I take it that the missing images aren't available in Commons or Geograph?

I can't believe how many DYKs you've amassed! I usually forget about DYK when starting a new page. Best. --GuillaumeTell 18:22, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

When I gave the title I did not have the benefit of the EH or Pevsner. Both the CCT sites used the title "church" throughout, so I used that. In the Info sheet, the author does say that it has never been a parish church but might have been a private chapel. I just wonder, as the CCT is a CoE organisation, did it prefer "church" to the OD-sounding "chapel"? It does seem that "chapel" is more accurate, so perhaps the move you suggest would be better. Would you like me to do it?. I suppose it could be added to the Lead (disambiguation) page as a "See also" or something like that, but do you think there would be any point in it?

I have a very limited collection of Pevsners; mainly those encircling my home county of Cheshire. If you want to write any church articles linking with the SE list, please feel welcome. This process has already been started by Hassocks5489 who has written a couple of articles in his area (Sussex).

The DYKs are really a bit of vanity. Although they have a purpose too. "Nobody" looks at church articles; maybe single-figure hits each day. If it appears as a DYK on the front page it usually gets 1–2k hits on its glory day (I've even had a couple of 5ks). Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 22:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

John Fryatt

Thanks. What year is this? What century? If you look at my recent edits you may conclude that today's date is 5 January 1810. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:08, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again. The article is really coming along. Does your source show his exact birthdate or any info about his family? All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

LOL! I wouldn't pay a whole 9 pounds. Soon there will be some newspaper obits, and we can cite them. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Anushka

I saw all those various disambig pages, wondered what traumas had led to that situation and left WELL alone! As for the failure of Hamilton's opera at the time, the more I hear about it the more I wonder if it was ahead of its time: how many modernists have given in to tonality in the three decades since?! Anyway, am looking forward to reading what you put in to the article. Given how little info there is, I encourage you to include as much as possible that is about the piece rather than the performance. I really must enquire of the British Library how to go about looking at their stuff. Btw, my contributions suggest that I'm not on WP much, but actually I'm popping in all the time just to check nothing's getting messed up almost-instinct 18:40, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Holy Trinity Church, Privett

Many thanks for writing the article; it's fine, just the sort of thing that's needed. I'm quite happy to write a short blurb in the list when it is ready for FLC.

Re downloading from Geograph to Commons, I've found a simple way of doing it (and it usually works). You may already know it. What I do is go into Commons and log in. Then type "geograph" in the search box, click on "Geograph" which brings up a page called "Category:Images from the Geograph British Isles project". Click on the blue link "Magnus' geograph_org2commons upload tool". This brings another page; all you have to do is copy the URL into the box (you leave the categories box empty and deal with these later). Click on "Upload" and wait. I've usually been lucky and received a page with a blue link at the bottom which says "View your image", or something like that. Click on it and you've got it. Simple when it works!

Re St Mary's, Lead, do you still think it should be moved? If so, shall I do it? The list to which it belongs is currently at FLC here, and a move should not cause any problem — I can explain what's been done. Interest in the list has been slow, with one support, but no major problems raised (yet). Best wishes.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I've moved St Mary's, and added some cats and project banners to the Privett article. The Category "Churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust" is a sub-cat of the Category "Former churches in England", so that should do. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:48, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

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Frederick Delius

After your help with Henry Wood, I wonder I might impose on you again? Brianboulton and I have put forward Frederick Delius for peer review, with a view to getting the article up to FA level. Any comments you wished to make at the peer review page would be most gratefully received. Best wishes, Tim riley (talk) 11:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

That's just the job - thank you so much. I'll follow up these excellent points, to the great benefit of the article. At your service if I can ever reciprocate with any of your articles (on any subject). En passant, noting your key interests on your user page, there is a Lancastrian mafia at work on Yorkie Delius's article, as both the conoms are from the Red Rose County. Tim riley (talk) 18:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

From strength to strength! Your supplementary comments are a boon and a blessing. Many thanks. Tim riley (talk) 22:28, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Delius is now up for FAC if you are minded to comment, which I hope you are. Best wishes. Tim riley (talk) 19:57, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Burlesque (genre)

Hi. Someone merged the Burlesque (genre) article into Burlesque. See this. I missed that there had been a merge proposal, but I think we need the old article to be distinct from the article about the modern form involving striptease and a master of ceremonies. Here is what it used to look like before the merge. Would you kindly look into this and comment here? See also Travesty, which used to redirect to Burlesque (genre). Thanks for taking a look and commenting either way. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:46, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

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L'Orfeo problems

See here. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

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Request for Mentorship

Dear Andrew:

My name's Tommy and I'm working on a project through James Madison University. The project's page is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_United_States_Public_Policy

I'm looking for a mentor who can answer questions that I might have along the way. I formally request that you become my Wikipedia Mentor. Are you up for it?

Regards,

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Burlesque again

Please see Burlesque (genre), which has just been brushed up and now makes pretty good sense and is pretty well referenced. Then see the discussion at Talk:Burlesque - going forward and feel free to contribute your thoughts. Best regards! -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I dare not do much editing in the Burlesque. It's a very bad and unbalanced article currently. I hope you and Tim will at least trim some of the repetition from it. You may also want to look at Burlesque (literature). -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Your delightful suggestion that there might in posse be a musical called Burlesque gave enormous pleasure, and will sustain me while I am wrestling with the gruesome Burlesque "main" article. Tim riley (talk) 21:47, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

La bohème - in French?

Hi. Thanks you are certainly right, that was no bogus entry and the Operadis ref backs it up. However, I couldn't help puzzling over why this group of artists would have recorded Boheme excerpts in French - recorded in the US - for what audience? I'm pretty sure now that Operadis just made a mistake and these are standard Boheme excerpts in Italian. For whatever it's worth, and it's a minor point about a fairly obscure recording to be sure, but this recording was made in 1940 for a U.S. Newspaper publishing group to distribute as part of a series of inexpensive music appreciation records that were given to readers as a subscription bonus, or sold at very low cost. The original records had no credits - only "Famous artists" or the like. In 1950 RCA released them with proper credit on the Camden label as part of a series of opera excerpts records called "Heart of the Opera". "Butterfly" shared the album with Boheme. It makes no sense for this to have been in French. Further, Opera on Record's Boheme chapter lists the recording and makes no mention of it being in French. Tantalizing, but I think just an error on the part of Operadis. Much ado about nothing? Probably so! Cheers, Markhh (talk) 02:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi both (talk page stalker here), I checked with the discography in La Bohème (Cambridge opera handbooks) by Arthur Groos and Roger Parker and they say it's in Italian too, so it must have been an Operadis error. I replaced it with another French recording listed as such both in Opera-dis and Groos and Parker. Plus I've seen the cover myself [1]. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Very neatly done! Thanks to you both, stalker, et al! Cheers, Markhh (talk) 07:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh well, it just goes to show that one can't believe everything one reads! Actually, I think I have the Mike Richter CD-ROM that's listed at operadis - quite a bit of his reissuing activities included opera recorded in the "wrong" language, e.g. Wagner in English and lots of non-German stuff in German - but I'll need to search for it (this is just to satisfy myself that I've left no stone unturned). In retrospect, I can't see why it should have been recorded in French unless it was some sort of whim of Pelletier's. --GuillaumeTell 11:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Seeking Mentor

Hey! I'm working on the Public Policy project and would appreciate your help with my article. Also noticed you spent quite some time in Kenya (my home country). I hope you enjoyed it.Matumeru (talk) 02:02, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Nairobi has definitely changed a lot since you were there! Thanks for accepting to be a mentor. I look forward to interacting with you as we work on this project.Matumeru (talk) 22:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

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Delius thanks

Guillaume

Please accept this star as a token of thanks for your help in getting Frederick Delius to FA standard. This was truly the work of many hands, and your particular contribution was much valued. Brianboulton (talk) 21:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Burlesque (literature)

What do you think of the current merge proposal?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Burlesque#Merger_proposal

I wonder whether, by buying this info in the Burlesque article, anything useful in it will be lost. Not sure. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:27, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Rinaldo FAC

I thought I'd let you know that Rinaldo has now gone to FAC. At the moment TFA for 24 February is still open, but Rinaldo won't get there on points - a music article is scheduled for 12 February, so we have to hopr Raul is musically inclined - I think he is. Anyway, thanks for your interest in the article. Brianboulton (talk) 23:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

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Bluffing

Trust me, I know nothing about linguistics ;-) almost-instinct 18:52, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Mentoring students: be sure to check in on them

This message is going out to all of the Online Ambassadors who are, or will be, serving as mentors this term.

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Finale

I think your idea is good, but I just don't have any time to help right now. We are struggling mightily with an editor at musical theatre who is really disruptive, plus, real life is interrupting my Wikipedia work! -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:22, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

French capitalization

I note your comment here. This is an issue that will never go away, but some people have been saying that that the guideline (Wikipedia:WPO#Operas:_original_language_titles) is hard to find, presumably because the heading refers to titles, rather than capitalization. Is this something your group might consider fixing to give the rule more prominence? --Kleinzach 01:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassador Program

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Peer review request

Sorry to bother you yet again, but if you could find time and inclination to have a look at Thomas Beecham, which I have up for peer review with a view to getting it to FA standard I should be most grateful. There is no urgency, but your comments would be most welcome. Tim riley (talk) 17:37, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about this. A drive-by editor has thought fit to close the PR after less than 2 days and has, for some inexplicable reason, nominated the article for FA. I have naturally opposed the nomination as premature (some might also say discourteous, but let it pass) and will get the PR reinstated as soon as I can. Meanwhile, sorry you are being mucked about by this other editor. Tim riley (talk) 10:22, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Marking articles students are working on

Howdy, Online Ambassador!

This is a quick message to all the ambassadors about marking and tracking which articles students are working on. For the classes working with the ambassador program, please look over any articles being worked on by students (in particular, any ones you are mentoring, but others who don't have mentors as well) and do these things:

1. Add {{WAP assignment | term = Spring 2011 }} to the articles' talk pages. (The other parameters of the {{WAP assignment}} template are helpful, so please add them as well, but the term = Spring 2011 one is most important.)
2. If the article is related to United States public policy, make sure the article the WikiProject banner is on the talk page: {{WikiProject United States Public Policy}}
3. Add Category:Article Feedback Pilot (a hidden category) to the article itself. The second phase of the Article Feedback Tool project has started, and this time we're trying to include all of the articles students are working on. Please test out the Article Feedback Tool, as well. The new version just deployed, so any bug reports or feedback will be appreciated by the tech team working on it.

And of course, don't forget to check in on the students, give them constructive feedback, praise them for positive contributions, award them {{The WikiPen}} if they are doing excellent work, and so on. And if you haven't done so, make sure any students you are mentoring are listed on your mentor profile.

Thanks! --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 18:11, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

FLC

You may be interested to know that I have nominated List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in the East of England at FLC. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:31, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Shakespeare Authorship

You removed my edit to the page. You then informed me that I needed to give a citation or sources. Can you give me even one valid example of proof or a universally single agreed upon example showing Shakespeare was not the author of the works? The entire page and subject is based on mere conjecture and opinion and wish fulfillment (that no one else could be that talented, because i'm not), and the only "evidence" supposedly shown by "crab in the bucket" cranks is complete conspiracy theory with no basis in any verifiable reality or in even a single historical document, so what exactly are you talking about?

Let me get this straight, you are claiming that simply citing or referencing any publication filled with conspiracy theory is a valid form of knowledge (simply because it was published? really? are you actually defending such a position on wikipedia?), whereas clearly and simply (parsimony) exposing the underpinning pseudo-philosophical eugenics-based beliefs driving such theories is not relevant?

-- scotthutcheon@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.77.77.122 (talk) 01:18, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

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Request to mentor a group of students

Hi GT! I'm trying to find mentors for each of the groups in the Energy Economics and Policy course. Would you be willing to mentor this group? If so, please sign up on the course page and introduce yourself to the students in the group. If not, let me know so I can find someone else. Thanks!--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 14:54, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

The Red Pen and radio operas

I've had a dig in the archives and added what I can find. I hesitate to mention it, but if there is a Radio Operas category, oughtn't there to be one for Television Operas? Owen Wingrave and that Menotti Christmas thing leap to mind. Tim riley (talk) 09:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Nixon in China

When you can spare a moment, you might like to check over Nixon in China, which is now at peer review. Any comments and suggestions would be most welcome. Brianboulton (talk) 10:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions to the peer review. You may like to know that the article has now been nominated at FAC. Brianboulton (talk) 16:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Make sure that you are checking in on your students work for WP:USPP/C/11/PTE

Hey, just a happy reminder to make sure that you are regularly checking in on your mentees work for JMU's Technical editing class, Sadads (talk) 11:07, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Another FL

Thanks for your support at FLC for List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in the East of England. This has (at last) been promoted; a task made more difficult by the CCT completely changing its website in the middle of the process. Only one list left now to complete the set — SE England! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Katinka

I like Friml, but I am too busy to work on this any time soon. Sorry! -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:14, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

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Response to your comment

Hi Andrew, a while ago you commented on my talk page because I mentioned working with you and Matumeru? She, myself, and two other students are working on the article "Point source water pollution" as a part of the U.S. Public Policy Initiative. We're all working on the same article, but if you need us to sign up individually as your mentees, we will do so. Here is the article link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_source_water_pollution . Any comments advice you have would be great!

And my apologies that my reply to you is so late.

KJD2011 (talk) 21:42, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Helpful comments

Hello!! Thanks for the comments you gave (a while back). They have been useful. My group is still working on its page but you can have a look at it here. Please feel free to leave comments on our discussion page - we need all the help we can get to make it a good article. Matumeru (talk) 15:40, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Thomas Lawlor (opera singer)

I added an article about this Opera North and ROH alum. If you have a moment, would you kindly take a look and see if you can add more about his non-DOC opera career? I haven't been able to find his birth date yet. Tim is away this week. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:36, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the ref and info! -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:53, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

His DOC principal roles:

• Counsel in Trial by Jury - high baritone (must sing a very exposed top G and is supposed to sing a top A at one point)
• Strephon in Iolanthe - mid baritone
• Pish-Tush in The Mikado - highish baritone
• Giuseppe in The Gondoliers - mid-baritone
• Captain Corcoran in H.M.S. Pinafore - High baritone; goes to A.
• Sergeant of Police - a bass role. It is a historical accident that Rutland Barrington originated this role, and it has often been miscast to be played by other baritones.
• Florian in Princess Ida - mid-baritone, goes to G.
• Lieutenant of the Tower in Yeomen - neither very high nor very low.

Roles that he did not play with DOC:

• Deadeye - Like the Lieutenant, this can be sung by nearly any baritone of any kind.
• Pirate King - bass-baritone
• Roderic - bass-baritone.

As I said, a baritone with good low notes could sing all of these, but it would not be good idea for a bass-baritone to attempt Corcoran, Counsel, Pish or Florian. It is possible that in later years, his voice settled lower. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:06, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I just listened to Lawlor sing "Our Great Mikado", which has a very tricky sustained high passage at the end of each verse, as well as dipping down to A on the bottom. He definitely sounds like a baritone to me, at least in 1967 at age 28. It is a very appealing voice. It would be interesting to hear him today, at age 72, and see how his voice has changed. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:16, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for all the research! If he considers himself a bass-baritone, as you suggest, I don't mind calling him that. I moved the article. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Did you intend to make this change? The template does not seem to be working correctly. In addition, my understanding is that we need to choose whether to use the G&S or the Opera tags on the talk page, since we are a daughter project. Is that right? All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:12, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me to the double-bannering discussion. Take a look at my comment there. Would you kindly try to alert me to opera discussions that concern G&S? All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:41, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Kommilitonen!

The DYK project (nominate) 08:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

York

Hi. Yeah I know what you mean, ask here if you want a different version.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:27, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Yep - I get the problem here, the UA area of York is very different to the settlement proper. The new map is a like-for-like replacement for the previous File:EnglandYork.png, which also highlights the UA not the city.

There are a few options for alternate maps. The simplest is to use Template:Location map North Yorkshire, which would produce one like is used in Harrogate.

I can make a map showing the urban area (see Greater Manchester Urban Area). There are 2 variants for that really: It can show York within N Yorks, or within the UA.

I'd suggest using the location map for the infobox, as that's most consistent with other settlements, but can make something else if preferred. A map showing the urban area of York within the UA may be useful as a supplementary image in the article.--Nilfanion (talk) 09:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

OK, I've put changed the map to the location map style (as used in Harrogate). The syntax required for {{infobox settlement}} is slightly different to {{infobox UK place}}, and things like your experience here are a strong justification for an effort to standardise the damn parameters! Location maps are particularly annoying for that. In general, I'd suggest checking the documentation of a template if you can't quite get it to work right.

I am slowly updating the infoboxes for English districts (eg Portsmouth and Poole) - getting rid of the style of map used in Leicester's box. I'll change the map to a location map, when the settlement is very different to the district as is the case for York and a few others. Hope that helps :)--Nilfanion (talk) 22:51, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Award

		Wikipedia Ambassador Barnstar
		For giving great advice to students in the Wikipedia Ambassador Program for improving their articles, I award you this Wikipedia Ambassador Barnstar. Thank! Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 14:45, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Lawlor

I'm sorry to disagree, but he didn't just sing G&S anywhere for 8 years, he sang entirely with the DOC. I don't care that much about DYK, but I think this hook does not give the right idea about his early career. No problem, though, if that's what you guys really want. -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:30, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Do you like the newest hook? I am satisfied with it. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:56, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Lawlor is scheduled to go on the Main page overnight tonight (11pm London time, I think). -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter: 22 April 2011

The newsletter of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program – Volume 4, 22 April 2011 This is the fourth issue of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter, with details about what's going on right now and where help is needed. Voting begins for steering committee - The voting phase for the Wikipedia Ambassador Steering Committee election started this week, and will continue through 27 April. Seeking more Regional Ambassadors in the US - We are still looking for Regional Ambassadors for the United States! The deadline has been extended to Friday, April 29th. India pilot being organized now - Plans are currently underway for a pilot expansion of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program – in India! Hisham Mundol and other Wikimedia staff have begun recruiting Campus Ambassador candidates for Pune. Document DYK, peer review and other milestone at the trophy case - If students you are working with (or any others you notice) are doing work that makes to DYK, is nominated for Good Article status, or is just solid content worth marking, then please help us document the students' success at the trophy case. Ambassador program at Wikimania - We're planning a set of Wikipedia Ambassador Program presentations for Wikimania 2011, in Haifa this August. Changes to mailing list - A new low-volume mailing list, [Ambassador-announce-l], is being created. It will be reserved for key announcements and news, which we'd like all ambassadors to be subscribed to.

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DYK for Henry Conybeare

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Question on use of a paper

Hi. I have a question on the use of a journal article for our wikipedia article. The paper has a caption stating "for personal use only". It's one of the very few academic resources I have come across on the US-Mexico region and point source water pollution and would really like to use it. Would that violate the paper's restriction adn/or wikipedia's requirements? 17:19, 26 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matumeru (talk • contribs)

URL for paper

Hi. Here's the URL for the paper I was talking about (I downloaded the pdf version from here). http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.energy.24.1.607?prevSearch=US%2BMexico%2Bborder%2Benvironment&searchHistoryKey= The article's title is "ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ALONG THE UNITED STATES-MEXICO BORDER: Drivers of Change and Responses of Citizens and Institutions" by Diana M. Livermann and others. Looking forward to your response. Matumeru (talk) 16:42, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. That's very useful. Our article will be done soon so please feel free to look it over and pass on any comments you may have. We would appreciate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matumeru (talk • contribs) 18:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

St Leonards-on-Sea

Hi – thanks for your message; very interesting! I did some digging around this evening and found that Princess Elizabeth, in her pre-Queen days, did indeed visit St John the Evangelist's on 18 May 1951 to lay the foundation stone of the new (fourth!) church. This was after the first, second and third had been destroyed by storms, fire and bombing respectively. Happily this church has survived without any further mishaps. Tomorrow I shall be writing about Christ Church, its former mother church further down the hill in central St Leonards. Yes, Ian Nairn was always a bit less strident than Pevsner (who moaned that my home village, Hassocks, has/had "no church and no identity" – charming). (Hassocks was in East Sussex when the book was written, but is now in West!) I've now attributed the quote solely to Nairn in the body of the Chichester article, although the ref is of course still to Nairn & Pevsner. On the multiple John Johnsons, did you come across the one (a London-based architect, apparently) who designed the Clock Tower in Brighton? I couldn't find out anything about him when writing that article. Kind regards, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:05, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Please help assess articles for Public Policy Initiative research

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Church articles

The red links in List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in South East England are nicely turning blue. As I am nearing the bottom of the list, I wanted to check that you do not have any articles for this list in preparation, to avoid duplication of effort and wasting time. I am quite happy to finish the list (at my standard - you can always improve them later). Cheers.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:33, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I'll carry on with the others, unless Hassocks wants to do the last Sussex church. Yes, the Commissioners' churches are an interesting group. I may get round to more articles about them sometime (I borrowed THE book from the library, and decided to construct the lists for future use). Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:17, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

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St Luke's Church, Oseney Crescent

It looks as if this church is no longer under the care of the CCT (see this), and I cannot find it on a search of the CCT website. So it looks as if it has become active again. After your work on it, too. I guess HTB must be something to do with Holy Trinity, Brompton. Something similar has happened with the Church of St James, Liverpool which is re-opening as a students' church. I'll have to delete it from the list (which is nicely nearing completion). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:46, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ambassador sweatshirt

Hi! This is the last call for signing on for a Wikipedia Ambassador hooded sweatshirt (in case you missed the earlier message in one of the program newsletters about it). If you would like one, please email me with your name, mailing address, and (US) sweatshirt size. We have a limited number left, so it will be first-come, first-served. (If more than one size would work for you, note that as well.)

Cheers, Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 19:41, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

CFR for opera singer cats

Please take a look at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 May 23#Operatic singer cats.4meter4 (talk) 18:58, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Tosca

I am trying to improve Wikipedia. And I shall explain my argument. The information I provided wasn't falsified and comes from a seemingly reliable source for opera. I can find it myself for you if you'd like. 67.80.144.146 (talk) 23:26, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

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English National Opera

I've been giving the English National Opera article a thorough overhaul, and have put it up for peer review. If you have time and inclination to take part in the peer review it will be esteemed a favour. Completely understand if not, of course. Tim riley (talk) 14:49, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Hugely stimulating and very much ad rem. Tim riley (talk) 19:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Prompted by your comment at the peer review that there was no article for Charles Corri, I have created one, and also ones for other people mentioned in the ENO article, viz. Tim Albery, Sian Edwards, Stefanos Lazaridis, James Robertson and Norman Tucker. (Stephen Arlen to come shortly.) If you have time and inclination to look in on these short additions and add or amend ad lib it would be esteemed a favour. Tim riley (talk) 19:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

FLC again

You may be interested to know that List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in Southeast England, the last in the series of five lists, is now at FLC. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

It's made it to FL, completing the set of five lists. Thanks for your contributions. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

And congratulations to you for all your hard work. I'll be interested to hear if/when you move on to other church projects. For instance, is there a Scottish equivalent of the CCT? --GuillaumeTell 09:28, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, see Scottish Redundant Churches Trust. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah - I should have uncollapsed the navbox at the bottom. Thanks! --GuillaumeTell 14:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for The Lodger (opera)

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Andrew Shore

Yes, there is a reason – though not perhaps a very glorious one – why I tacked on the brackets. I tried to save my draft article as "Andrew Shore" tout court, but I got a stern message saying an article of that name (about a fictional character, as far as I could see) had been deleted, and was I sure I wanted to proceed. With the utmost pusillanimity I steered round that rock and called the new article "Andrew Shore (singer)". If, however, you are braver than I and willing to move it to "Andrew Shore" plain and simple, I shall be cheering you on (from a safe distance). Tim riley (talk) 18:10, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

York meetup

Hi GuillaumeTell. Just to let you know there is a Wikimedia meetup being planned in York for Tuesday. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Guillaume Tell - would love to join the meetup in York with someone like you who knows the cathedral so well. Unfortunately, can't make it from Sydney in time. It is now less than half an hour before 1900 on the 21st here so it will all be over before it has begun Whiteghost.ink 08:21, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

There's a bare minimum of organisation. No room, no banners. Just use the force. I'll be wearing a purple top, if that helps ;). See you soon. --Tagishsimon (talk) 16:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, just know we were sadly miss each other yesterday night and I waited there about 30 mins from 7:10 but I met simon and others in the end. Yes, we should make the meeting more effectively next time. Zeyi (talk) 10:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, apologies. Badly organised. I think the killer was that I was stuck on a delayed southbound traing, and did not get to the pub until (presumably) after you'd left. We did put up a laptop with a wikipedia screen on it, on the table we met around. but as I say, apologies. --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:18, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

GuillaumeTell - you aren't the only one who missed it. I arrived rather later and looked around for a likely looking group and failed to find one. Perhaps I didn't ask the right people. Don't know how I failed to spot the laptop. Fortunately the Punchbowl is very close to home so I decided that I probably ought to just go back and get on with something useful. Let's try again by all means but perhaps somewhere safer. I might even be able to organise a venue. --AJHingston (talk) 22:00, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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Mock complaint

You do realise, I hope, that anyone else visiting the Levin PR page will follow your link to one of the most brilliant pieces of sustained comic prose ever penned in the English language, and then have to come back to my own plodding prose! I shall be lucky to achieve C class in the circumstances. Tim riley (talk) 14:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I never met him, but sometimes sat a few rows behind him and his companions at the opera. The last time was in March 2003 (Elektra at the ROH). You wouldn't have guessed he was deep in the shadow of Alzheimer's, poor man. He was as dapper as always and seemed as bright as ever, but I know music is often the last contact Alzheimer's sufferers have with their vanishing senses. Oh, Lord! Tim riley (talk) 21:02, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

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Osborne and tips

Hi there, Thanks for that - i did notice the changes, and all those pointers are much appreciated! (re: the WPO header, I managed to add it to a main page earlier today before realising my mistake - hopefully will get the hang of this quickly and stop annoying people with my silliness!). I'll hopefully add a bit more to JO at some point (do check out the prom on iplayer if you haven't already - he was in fine form!) though I think I'll stay with the operas themselves for a little while at least. Would like to see some bel canto movement up the project quality scale. Do keep the tips coming, and thanks for being so patient. – Lackingdirection (talk) 17:31, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Request for comment at Talk:Philip Larkin

A very pleasant gentle chat is going on on the talk page of Philip Larkin - someone pointed out that at least one of the poems quoted isn't terribly relevent to the section its placed in. Someone has also suggested an alternative to one of the others. Anyway, on the talk page are the various alternatives, and we would love to have some more input as to which we should choose ... almost-instinct 12:59, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Folkington

Hello Guillaume. Unfortunately I won't be able to do it on this trip – I have an itinerary which I can't easily deviate from, as it relies on buses – but I will try to go there next time I'm in Eastbourne. (It's only a short walk across the fields from Willingdon, which I can reach by bus.) I am working on Eastbourne listed buildings at the moment – trying to get all the images before creating the list on here – so I expect I will be going there at some point in the next few weeks. Failing that, I will certainly be going for the beer festival in October. (My Rye etc. itinerary, incidentally, takes up the whole of the week from tomorrow morning until Friday evening; I'm focusing on places of worship in Rother and, hopefully, listed buildings in Hastings, where I'm staying. Luckily the weather looks reasonable!) Cheers, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:00, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Offenbach

I was about to importune you for comments, but I see you're ahead of me. I look forward to more in due course: no hurry at all! 21:32, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

No good deed goes unpunished! I have had the cheek on the FAC page to ask you to rephrase a sentence or so in the article to which you took exception (rightly so, I think). You patently know more about operatic genres than I do and your expertise would be greatly valued. But if you can't spare time (or haven't the inclination) I shall, of course, perfectly understand. Tim riley (talk) 10:16, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

That's beautifully unequivocal, thank you, sir. Meanwhile I am boggling at your hint, if hint it be, that I can get away with "Les contes d'Hoffmann". Any encouragement you feel moved to give, in the face of the "Ils ne passeront pas" tendency will be esteemed a favour. Tim riley (talk) 18:47, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

As you suggested at peer review, I have added a para on JO's best-known numbers. It is at the top of the Works section. Grateful if you'd give it the once-over and amend ad lib. Tim riley (talk) 09:37, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Smashing! Thank you very much. Now I have only to get the stuff to clarify his relations with Bizet and then I think on to FAC. More anon. Tim riley (talk) 11:17, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

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Ambassador Program: assessment drive

Even though it's been quiet on-wiki, the Wikipedia Ambassador Program has been busy over the last few months getting ready for the next term. We're heading toward over 80 classes in the US, across all disciplines. You'll see courses start popping up here, and this time we want to match one or more Online Ambassadors to each class based on interest or expertise in the subject matter. If you see a class that you're interested, please contact the professor and/or me; the sooner the Ambassadors and professors get in communication, the better things go. Look for more in the coming weeks about next term.

In the meantime, with a little help I've identified all the articles students did significant work on in the last term. Many of the articles have never been assessed, or have ratings that are out of date from before the students improved them. Please help assess them! Pick a class, or just a few articles, and give them a rating (and add a relevant WikiProject banner if there isn't one), and then update the list of articles.

Once we have updated assessments for all these articles, we can get a better idea of how quality varied from course to course, and which approaches to running Wikipedia assignments and managing courses are most effective.

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 17:24, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Non-notable places?

Can you point me in the direction of NOTE for geo locations? Thanks! Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:01, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it was about Leeds. I saw the PROD while doing some cleanup and started wondering what the NOTE criterion would be. I can imagine there are lots of places in Toronto, for instance, where the area has no important events or buildings - residential developments for instance - but do exist and removing them would make the maps "not work". For instance, my own neighbourhood is 1/2 of a street west of Seaton Village, and is otherwise unimportant. But if we have some sort of NOTE, and my area fails to meet it, then if that area gets removed then the little compass-like map widget ends up with a hole in it. So thus my question - in the case of place, is "obvious existence" enough? Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:55, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Ha! As it turns out, this exact problem does exist with my area! If you look at Seaton Village you'll see a map that says the area to the west is Christie Pits. However, when you look at the compassy-gizmo at the bottom of the page... it skips right to Dovercourt Park. I don't exist! This is precisely the issue that concerns me. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:58, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think they are notable...

I read over the NOTE guidelines for GEO, and I think those neighbourhoods in Leeds would meet NOTE. It seems the bar is fairly low - existence does seem to be enough. I'd recommend withdrawing the PRODs. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:36, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Works for me! Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:55, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

ex-PROD places

Redirection is certainly better than deletion, but I think there ought to be at least a mention of the minor place on the page to which it is redirected - otherwise the person following the link has no indication why they've got there, and the redirect is likely to be deleted if anyone discovers that the connection isn't explained on the target page. I've said as much on the talk page of the user who did the redirects - will await a response!

I'd been coming round to the idea that some of them probably merited an article, eg Lidgett Park which has given its name to the Methodist Church, etc. When you see articles about US "non-incorporated communities" (or whatever the phrase is) with populations like 136, any couple of streets in Leeds seems equally notable. (Yes, I know, WP:OCE is not an argument!) PamD (talk) 16:57, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Brotherton Library

Nice work there! Is there any sourced info for the idea that some quarry in Sweden was reopened specially to get the marble for the columns? I think RHD used to tell some such tale.

Can you get a DYK out of it, perhaps? Perhaps the "bigger than the BL" bit?

Does the diameter which exceeds the BL go from window to window, or only the central area? If it's window to window (as I've always thought, perhaps wrongly), then is it perhaps confusing to talk about the bookshelves as being in "individual rooms underneath the balcony" rather than bays or sections or something? Just a thought.

Are you going to add some description of the Special Collections suite, especially the Brotherton Room itself? PamD (talk) 22:42, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Brotherton Library

Materialscientist (talk) 16:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Well done! Have you told Chris S / Librarian / editor of Reporter? I think they should be informed! PamD (talk) 16:57, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

La cour de Célimène

I have reviewed your DYK nomination and made some comments. You can reply here: Template:Did you know nominations/La cour de Célimène. Cbl62 (talk) 23:11, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors: Time to join pods

Hello! If you're planning to be an active Online Ambassador for the upcoming academic term, now is the time to join one or more pods. (A pod consists of the instructor, the Campus Ambassadors, and the Online Ambassadors for single class.) The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) explains the expectations for being part of a pod as an Online Ambassador. (The MOU for pods in Canada is essentially the same.) In short, the role of Online Ambassadors this term consists of:

• Working closely with the instructor and Campus Ambassadors, providing advice and perspective as an experienced Wikipedian
• Helping students who ask for it (or helping them to find the help they need)
• Watching out for the class as a whole
• Helping students to get community feedback on their work

This replaces the 1-on-1 mentoring role for Online Ambassadors that we had in previous terms; rather than being responsible for individual students (some of whom don't want or help or are unresponsive), Online Ambassadors will be there to help whichever students in their class(es) ask for help.

You can browse the upcoming courses here: United States; Canada. More are being added as new pods become active and create their course pages.

Once you've found a class that you want to work with—especially if you some interest or expertise in the topic area—you should sign the MOU listing for that class and get in touch with the instructor. We're hoping to have at least two Online Ambassadors per pod, and more for the larger classes.

If you're up for supporting any kind of class and would like me to assign you to a pod in need of more Online Ambassadors, just let me know.

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Thimble-riggers

I haven't yet seen ON's Ruddigore (am booked for the London outing) and don't know what text they use. In the original Act II, Robin has a plaintive little song longing to be once again "a highly respectable man", but after a few days G&S replaced it with a more robust number digging at WSG's usual targets, from which my thimble-rigging quote comes. When the piece was finally revived after 33 years both numbers were cut and D'Oyly Carte never restored either of them. (I know you didn't ask, but I thought I'd tell you just the same.) Tim riley (talk) 19:27, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

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Re DYK of La cour de Célimène

You recently nominated La cour de Célimène for DYK which was declined by one editor. I am not at all familiar with this process, but I was surprised that when 3 editors were providing support for this nomination, that one editor could both close the discussion and turn down the nomination. Is this the usual practice? --Robert.Allen (talk) 20:57, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I think maybe we should rewrite the hook and resubmit it. I may try to add some additional info to the article before we do that. --Robert.Allen (talk) 11:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Operatic taxonomy

I have posted a few comments on the talk page of Grand Opera, on which your expertise would be greatly valued. It would be good to get WP into line with the Oxford reference stable on this. Tim riley (talk) 12:46, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Further importunity

I have run up a short article on John Tooley. It's a bit (well, a lot) scrappy, for lack of published material; I haven't got his memoirs. If you could run an eye over the article and add or amend ad lib it will be esteemed a favour. Tim riley (talk) 12:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Much obliged: thank you. Tim riley (talk) 15:24, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Having your back numbers bound! Gosh - a blast from the past. I think I last did that with The Gramophone forty years ago. My local binders have just hiked their prices up, so that a single annual magazine volume of A4 now costs £50. I forgot to follow up the Sachie Sitwell quote: must surely have been an error in transcription in Gammond. Grand opera - grateful (truly) for your forbearance with us plebs! Also, I'm brewing a major overhaul of the Royal Opera article, which is not all that good at present. More on that anon. Tim riley (talk) 17:22, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

And yet more: if you are even faintly interested in the Queen's Hall, I have the article at peer review, where it is sitting, a trifle sadly, hoping for attention. Tim riley (talk) 11:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

(Has Riley no shame?) And I have just put the Royal Opera up for peer review too, if you care to drop in. (One fine day you can call in all these debts I owe you.) Tim riley (talk) 21:16, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Meadow

You pipped me to the post: when I went back to the article to add the THES ref I'd found, I found that you'd already been there with a BBC ref! PamD 21:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

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List of country houses in the United Kingdom

Hi, can you expand this with your downloaded list sometime?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:34, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back! Hope you enjoyed Crete! If you haven't time to work on it by all means please email me the list and I'll do my best to get them listed and the articles started, although of course I intend to create half decent stubs on them like Peter did with the Cheshire houses rather than "sub stubs". ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Grand Opera

You were unconvinced, I think, by my contention elsewhere that in Britain, "Grand Opera" has long been loosely used for all proper opera, not just French Grand Opéra. This slightly troubled me, and I was pleased to run across this, in The Times, 4 Feb 1933, p. 8:

"GRAND OPERA AT COVENT GARDEN

PROGRAMME OF SIX WEEKS' SEASON

There will be a six weeks' season of International Grand Opera, opening on Monday, May 1 and lasting until Friday, June 9. The repertoire will be selected from the following operas, to which additions may be made:–

In German: Der Ring des Nibelungen, Tristan und Isolde, Parsifal and Der Rosenkavalier

In French: La Damnation de Faust

In Italian: Don Carlos, Aïda, Otello, Tosca, La Bohème, and Il Barbiere di Siviglia"

The impresario was Beecham. As an adopted Yorkshireman you may argue that Lancastrians like T Beecham and T Riley are bound to get things wrong, but I thought I'd mention it as corroborative detail. Tim riley (talk) 09:50, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Update on courses and ambassador needs

Hello, Ambassadors!

I wanted to give you one last update on where we are this term, before my role as Online Facilitator wraps up at the end of this week. Already, there are over 800 students in U.S. classes who have signed up on course pages this term. About 40 classes are active, and we're expecting that many more again once all the classes are up and running.

On a personal note, it's been a huge honor to work with so many great Wikipedians over the last 15 months. Thanks so much to everyone who jumped in and decided to give the ambassador concept a try, and double thanks those of you who were involved early on. Your ideas and insights and enthusiasm have been the foundation of the program, and they will be the keys the future of the program.

Courses looking for Online Ambassadors

Still waiting to get involved with a class this term, or ready to take on more? We have seven classes that are already active and need OA support, and eleven more that have course pages started but don't have active students yet. Please consider joining one or more of these pods!

Active courses that really need Online Ambassadors:

• Sociology of Poverty
• Architectural Design
• Introduction to Educational Psychology
• Intro to Mass Communication
• Psychology Seminar
• Theories of the State
• Advanced Media Studies

Courses that may be active soon that need Online Ambassadors:

• Housing and Social Policy
• Anthropology, Wikipedia, and the Media
• History & Systems
• Horror Cinema
• Digital Media... just bits in a box
• Composition I
• Telecommunications Management
• Training Systems
• Stigma: Culture, Deviance, Identity
• Art and Terrorism
• Political Violence and Insurgency

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:12, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - October 2011

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Royal Opera, London

Hello, GuillaumeTell. You have new messages at Tim riley's talk page.
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(Actually, I don't know why I added this rather convoluted link. All I want to say is Yes, Please, to your noble offer of comments – now rather than at FAC, if you have time) Tim riley (talk) 14:34, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Orthography

I salute you, sir, for "connexion". I wimped out a year or two ago in the face of the "connection" lobby. Not too late for a campaign, do you think? And then perhaps a drive for 'focused', 'biased', 'budgeted', and 'benefited'? Tim riley (talk) 18:18, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Paisiello's Barbiere

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The Wagner article is in need of some help

We're in a bit of a pickle in the Wagner discussion page. The issues concerns what can be in the introduction and what not, should it be shortened and are the chapters in the right order? At the Wagner discussion page there is Edit War solution topic and at the end of it some courses of action that I was requested to list. Please help, it seems that the few old hags (me included) don't want to come to any conclusion. Just take fast look. Thank you User:Major Torp (talk) 14:22, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Piano music of Gabriel Fauré

A bit off piste, but if you have the time and inclination to look in at the peer review your comments will be greatly valued. Quite understand if not. Tangentially, I have the Royal Opera article moving up my list for FAC (fighting off Sullivan and Offenbach, on both of whom I am hopelessly behind schedule) and will be returning to your list of shrewd comments on that before long. Tim riley (talk) 17:37, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely understood. Though (as I hope is not too POV-ishly clear from my article) I adore Fauré's music, I know he's not to all tastes. I have astonished myself by a sudden lapse into technological competence in linking the podcast of the Seedy Review Building a Library feature to the Fauré piano music article and to the scrappy new article on Mme. Thyssens-Valentin that you and User:MistyMorn have shamelessly manoeuvred me into running up. (Though fair do's you did the same on my account for the BBC opera exposé The House so I can't complain. I haven't properly read that article, and shall now away and do so.) Tim riley (talk) 15:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

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Barcley's Bank, York

Thanks for adding the image to the Kirby list, despite it's being sideways. I tried to download it again from Geograph by copying it on to my own hard disc. This copied fine, but when I tried to upload it from there, it went sideways again! There must be some fault in the upload "wizard" thing. So, at least for the time being, I've changed the photo for the different but upright one. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:41, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

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Stanley Holloway

Hello, GT. I hope you are having a festive holiday season. Could you possibly spare some time to review this FAC? It is not getting much substantive attention. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind comments re the above. A bit of background; It has taken the best part of two years to research and I have visited many places associated with Holloway over the years. I adore the Ealing films which, I suppose is what first got me interested in him. I provided a case to English Heritage to get the plaque installed at his birthplace and was the official nominator for it. I have collected all ancestry certificates and census records for him and his family as I am very keen on ancestry, and have so far traced back to 1668 and his gt gt gt gt gt grandfather but have omitted to place in the article as we would be there all day :-) I feel the article would not be here at all if it wasnt for my (un)official mentors Ssilvers and Tim riley. I would love to take you up on your kind offer of help on improving the recordings page and i'm happy to start right away. All the best -- Cassianto (talk) 16:07, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I have started a new section on the discussion page on the discography section on SH to discuss everything to do with the wikitable. Best Regards -- Cassianto (talk) 13:06, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

re the above (and just to confuse things) I have moved the discussion over to your boulderbox talk page to free up talk space and to keep everything in the same place until we are ready to go live with it. If people want to participate, they can follow the link to here. Do you agree? -- Cassianto (talk) 17:11, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

I hope Cassianto comes back, but in any case, you guys were/are doing a great job with the table. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:54, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

I desire to associate myself with Ssilvers's remarks both above and below. Tim riley (talk) 18:28, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas, GT. I hope you are having a very happy and peaceful season! -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:00, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas from London...

...and a very Happy New Year, GT! Thanks so much for all your work at the Opera Project. All the best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:09, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Charles Villiers Stanford

As adumbrated elsewhere I have, more or less in absence of mind, added and added to what was supposed to be a quick wash-and-brush-up of this article, so that it now it looks suspiciously like a potential FAC. Stanford, I admit, doesn't pop up much in opera houses nowadays, but he did write nine operas all told, and if you can find time and disposition to look in at the current Peer Review it will be esteemed a favour. (I am uncomfortably aware that the Royal Opera and Offenbach await, but this article just seemed to want to get itself written now.) Tim riley (talk) 15:37, 30 December 2011 (UTC)