Talk:India national cricket team/Archive 1

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Shouldn't we merge this page with Cricket in India as they do sort of overlap, jguk 2 July 2005 13:27 (UTC)

Definitely not. One should put the whole Indian game into context and the other should be a detailed history of the fortunes of the national team. These are clearly different topics. Calsicol 07:42, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Severe lack of info

Aside from the patchy writing and boring narrative (all good encyclopedia articles are narratives to an extent), this article also suffers from major lacunae. For instance, the major scandals surrounding match-fixing that affected and changed the team and some of its most storied players (Azaruddhin (spllng?) comes to mind) have been neglected. I, hopefully, leave this message for those who can fill in the gaps. --68.173.46.79 20:51, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

What about the women's team

this article talks about the men's team. what about the indian team comprising the opposite sex? Idleguy 09:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

• Indian women's cricket team -- ALoan (Talk) 10:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

• • A section has finally been added on the women's team on this page. Gizza^{Chat ©} 07:46, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Current Players

Do we really need to edit the current players every time there is a small addition in the team? This article gets modified every time someone is dropped temporarily or a new person is added but does not get chosen for the final 11. I think current players should only reflect the core of the team. E.g. right now, it would be Dravid, Pathan, Tendulkar, Dhoni, Harbhajan, Kumble. People who are more likely to be around in the next series. Saurav Ganguly has already retired from International cricket. I think his name shall be edited out of the list.

Ongoing Effort

Records - Tests

All the other pages have them so India should get them too, just hope for a bit of help, feel free to fill in the empty gaps, use Cricinfo Records to help. Nobleeagle 09:07, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Done seems ready to go onto the page, feel free to add any significant records. Nobleeagle 04:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Team records

• Highest team total: 705-7 decl v Australia at Sydney (2003/04)
• Lowest team total: 42 v England at Lord's (1974)

Individual records

• Most matches: 131 by Kapil Dev and Sachin Tendulkar

Batting

• Most runs: above 12000 by Sachin Tendulkar
• Best average: 58.26 by Rahul Dravid
• Highest individual score: 319 by Virender Sehwag v South Africa at Chennai (2008/09)
• Record partnership: 413 P Roy and MH Mankad v New Zealand at Chennai 1955/56 (1st wicket)
• Most centuries: 48 by Sachin Tendulkar

Bowling

• Most wickets: 504 by Anil Kumble
• Best average: 28.71 by Bishan Singh Bedi
• Best innings bowling: 10-74 by Anil Kumble Vs. Pakistan at Delhi (1998/99)
• Best match bowling: 16-136 by Narendra Hirwani v West Indies at Chennai (1987/88)
• Best career strike rate: 53.8 by Irfan Pathan
• Best economy rate: 1.67 by Bapu Nadkarni

Fielding

• Most dismissals: 198 (160 catches, 38 stumpings) by Syed Kirmani
• Most dismissals in an innings: 6 (5 catches, 1 stummping) by Syed Kirmani v New Zealand at Christchurch (1975/76).

Records - ODIs

Just need to do the same for ODIs and we can put them on the page. Nobleeagle 04:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Done and ready...Nobleeagle 23:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Team records

• Highest team total: 413-5 in 50 overs v Bermuda at Trinidad (2006/07)
• Lowest team total: 54-10 in 26.3 overs v Sri Lanka at Sharjah (2000/01)

Individual records

• Most matches: Sachin Tendulkar 362

Batting

• Most runs: 16,361 Sachin Tendulkar
• Best average: 53.95 Mahendra Dhoni
• Highest individual score: 186* Sachin Tendulkar vs. New Zealand at Hyderabad (1999/00)
• Record partnership: 331 Rahul Dravid & Sachin Tendulkar for the 2nd wicket s. New Zealand at Hyderabad (1999/00)
• Most centuries: 42 Sachin Tendulkar

Bowling

• Most wickets: 516 Anil Kumble
• Best average: 25.21 Irfan Pathan
• Best innings bowling: 6/12 Anil Kumble v West Indies at Kolkata (1993/94)
• Best career strike rate: 30.5 Irfan Pathan
• Best career economy rate: 3.71 Kapil Dev

Fielding

• Most dismissals: 181 Rahul Dravid

Collaboration

Now that it's Indian Collaboration of the Week. I think the first step is to upgrade it at least to the levels set by the West Indian cricket team, English cricket team and Australian cricket team. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:32, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

In terms of structure, the West Indies cricket team is the best to follow. The other two mainly focus on history, whereas West Indies contains many good sections. Also is it really necessary to have a list of the Indian winning XI at the 1983 World Cup. It looks a bit strange. Gizza^{Chat ©} 07:40, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

It does, a link to the scorecard on cricinfo should suffice. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:43, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

The article on West Indian cricket team once went through an FAC process but was rejected because most of it dealt with history alone. The History of the West Indian cricket team was then created by moving most of these contents. Some of the comments there would be useful for us. A comment given in the FAC was to model the article on Arsenal F.C. which deals with everything about the Arsenal.

Currently there is also an article about cricket in India. We can also look at improving the two and starting an additional History of the Indian cricket team article simultaneoulsly. For instance, a section about the crowds/supporters and the influence of the media may be better suited for the Indian cricket team article while one about the money in the game may go to cricket in India. Tintin (talk) 07:04, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Yep, Arsenal looks good as a model. Also noticed that New England Patriots were on the Main Page today. Another example as to how we should structure the article? Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:48, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that on Wikipedia:Featured_articles#Sport_and_games, Arsenal, New England Patriots and Manchester F.C. are the only sport team articles that are FA. I think the best way to approach this article is to take out all the good stuff from each of the three sport team FAs and merge it into this. Gizza^{Chat ©} 08:04, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Copyediting

When playing one-day cricket, the Indian cricket team have always worn a light blue shirt and pants.

Couple of issues with that line. 'Always' isn't correct because coloured clothing became universally accepted only in the last ten years or so. Atleast in the 1992 world cup, India wore dark blue (though they had used light blue in the WSC earlier in the season). Can't find a pic because I don't know what to look for, but it finds a mention here. There have also been shades like the one used in the 'desert storm' innings which are not the conventional light blue. Tintin (talk) 10:08, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Changed --Gizza^{Chat ©} 06:40, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Current Squad list

I know, I know, I'm supposed to be on a Wikibreak but I can't help myself. I voted for this article to be INCOTW & should also be responsible for improving it. The list is taken from the West Indies team page & I have reduced a few columns (the ones of domestic team, tour matches etc). But the effect nevertheless is good (according to me). Anyway if anyone could add a few more columns it would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 18:43, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Famous Players

I have added this section as I saw it in the West Indian cricket team page which I take as a precedent for this article. Now this section can be inflated to a large size considering many people have different opinions about who should & shouldn't be mentioned in this section. Even my judgement in selection can & most probably will be questioned. I have only tried to add the players who have been the most notable. Still if anyone has any players to add (or remove) please do so with some care as this can spark conflicts between users. Still this section is particularly helpful to point ot the great Indian players of the past & present. Feedback will be appreciated.

Thanks

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 19:22, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed the Notable cricketers section (I don't know how I missed it. I must be going blind!). Anyway its pretty similar to the famous players section I have created. But I feel both should be kept as one gives detail about the players & the other gives concise info about the players through the decades. Still I think the sections need to be merged somehow. Any ideas?

Thanks Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 01:27, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, Notable Indian Cricketers should be somehow merged with the general history section, with all the names into the Famous Cricketers list. Nobleeagle (Talk) 09:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Sachin Tendulkar and Sudeep Biswas

Stadia

The Stadia section is really good. My thanks to NobleEagle for adding it. In that I have created the Sardar Patel (Gujarat) Stadium article where I have created a new Infobox for cricket stadia. I think this Infobox should be used for all stadia as it gives all the vital stats of the ground at a glance. I would appreciate it if you would look at it & give me some feedback. If you like it I will create them for all the other grounds too.

Thanks

Everyone,

Isn't this wrong -

Sardar Patel Stadium (Gujarat) Naranpura, Ahmedabad ?

It is located in Motera. One in Naranpura is not used for international cricket.

Thanks.

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 09:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I think this was discussed before on the WP:CRIC talk page. The main problem is that cricket is not the only sport on most cricket grounds (especially in Australia, England, New Zealand, South Africa). I suppose it can be used for Indian stadiums or any on the subcontinent. Gizza^{Chat ©} 09:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The lead could do with some polishing. Would it help to put the stadia in a table (perhaps with some additional data) ? Do we include ODI-only grounds ? Should we look at including only the important/active grounds to reduce the length of this section ? Tintin (talk) 09:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Table format would be nice. I reckon only grounds that have hosted one or more test matches should be displayed, otherwise we'll have to go into unnecessary detail, stating names like the Faridabad ground etc. Perhaps List of Indian cricket grounds is the place to put such details. For here, only test grounds I reckon... Nobleeagle (Talk) 10:46, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Srikeit, There is a template for the stadiums already. It is Infobox Cricket Ground. Please use that instead of creating a India specific one. - Ganeshk (talk) 15:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

You can see its usage at Sydney Cricket Ground. - Ganeshk (talk) 15:54, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Logo?

The Arsenal and Windies pages have a section on Crest and Flag respectively. The equivalent in for the Indian cricket team would be the BCCI logo. Does anyone think it deserves its own section? Gizza^{Chat ©} 09:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Images?

If anyone has them, three images particularly come to my mind:
1) BCCI Logo
2) Picture from a cricket match containing India, preferably in ODI uniform.
3) Picture of squad that won the World Cup.
Those would be good for a start. Nobleeagle (Talk) 09:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

We already some sort of BCCI logo at Image:3283 320.jpg. Is that the right one? It will be hard to find pictures of players that are usable in Wikipedia, unless someone has taken one themselves. Stephen Turner (Talk) 10:55, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

That's it thanks :). Nobleeagle (Talk) 08:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Indian cricket team records

Please import any Indian cricket team records you know to this page. We particularly need First Class and List A records. Once it fills up a bit, we can just write a summary here and link to the main article. Nobleeagle (Talk) 09:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Current squad

I just read through the article and it needs a lot of work in grammar and in tone. Presently it reads like a school essay. There is also a lot of inconsistency in the article. An example is the following sentence.

"The players who took India to great heights over the past 10 years such as Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly and Anil Kumble are growing older and not consistently maintaining form and fitness."

Under the current squad should'nt the title Fast bowlers renamed to Medium Fast bowlers? Instead of using West Indies as a base to design this, 2005/06 Cricket Australia Contracted Players in Australia can be used. A current squad always changes as we speak so a list of players (like Australia) who represented India for the said year looks more presentable.Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 11:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Nivus that certain parts of the article need to be improved & be made to confirm to NPOV. In the current squad section you have requested renaming the title Fast Bowlers as Medium Fast Bowlers. Fast bowling is a term used for bowling anything other than spin. The following introduction clarifies this:

Fast bowling, sometimes known as pace bowling, is one of the two approaches to bowling in the sport of cricket. The other is spin bowling.

So Fast bowlers does not mean that they are express pace bowlers, but that they are bowlers who are not spinners. And also I do not see a problem in using a current squad list. The squad I have mentioned is a 16 member team selected for playing against England. It is true that it is subject to change, but those changes can always be made easily. As for adding a contracted players list (like Australia), I think it is a good idea. But it should be added as a separate section not in place of the current squad list as certain contracted players are not currently in the team (eg. Sourav Ganguly).

Thanks

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 17:50, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

You are missing my point. The squad you have mentioned was only valid for the first 3 ODIs. Gautam Gambhir has been dropped and Robin Uthappa has been selected instead. Pretty soon when interest has been dropped on this article, you may not find anyone to keep it upto date. My suggestion is to display a list of players who were in the squad 2005/2005 season. So as new players are selected they can be stacked to the bottom of the list. Just my 2 cents!! Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 04:50, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Coaches

Should a section be made on the coaches the team has had in its history? The more info there is on the page, the more likely it is to become a FA! Gizza^{Chat ©} 05:18, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

• First, we'll see whether we can get names of everyone. When did the manager become the coach - with Wadekar ? Tintin (talk) 06:00, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I've added Test captains, have no idea where I can find coaches names though I'm afraid. Nobleeagle (Talk) 08:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Comparisons with other pages

I believe that with a bit of a layout check, expanding the women's cricket team section and bit and setting up history so that it's a bit neater we could be matching the West Indies article in content by tomorrow. With a few images we could have a better article. Nice work everyone, but there is still a lot of work to be done to make it match real Featured Article Standard. Nobleeagle (Talk) 08:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

India at the World Cup

I think this should warrant its own section. The World Cup is the centrepiece and ultimate aim of playing one day cricket. So I think we should start a section focusing on how India have done in the World Cup - and records, eg, most runs scored in WC by Indian, most wickets, most matches, etc.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll be able to do that and have the sources and info needed. But don't have time today so will undertake the task when I do have the time (probably tomorrow or day after). Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

India at the Cricket World Cup has been created but needs to include the 1983 World Cup final and the summaries of India's performance in the remainder of the world cups. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:34, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

History of the Indian cricket team

I don't have the knowledge to create such a section but if anyone has the time to create and maintain it, it would be brilliant. I think the history section and a few things here and there are the only things that keep us just lower than Arsenal F.C., a featured article. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Indian cricket history will be probably be the toughest one to write among all the cricket playing countries. It will be a monumental task to write a really good article. I am a bit apprehensive of taking it up but if anyone is willing I can provide a lot of reading material. Tintin (talk) 07:47, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

References

Although most of the info is not controversial, they will still be needed. It is one of the final steps we have to take before the article undertake Peer Review, and then a Feautured Article Candidate. Gizza^{Chat ©} 10:30, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Indian captain list

"Note that some of the time periods overlap due to the fact that a captain may have simply been filling in. As is the case of Rahul Dravid's captaincy in 2003." I do not agree with including filling roles in this list. In my opinion, it makes the list confusing and also decreases its utility. For example, if xyz was captain as a fill in role for couple of times in 1993 and then later promoted to full time captaincy in 1997 to 2001, it is grossly misleading to say he was captain from 1993-2001. --Blacksun 01:36, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Good point, but it should be discussed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Cricket. I suggest this discussion is moved there. Gizza^{Chat ©} 07:23, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

This article is expanding nicely, but, I have a few comments. On the captains, it seems a bit pointless to essentially repeat the more informative list in Indian national cricket captains, with much of the information taken out. Surely the section should instead contain some prose, discussing the most important Indian cricket captains, their performances, influence, etc? A similar comment could be made about the stadia - they are already listed in chronological order at List of Test cricket grounds#India, so this list should add something else - say, listed by number of matches, and discussing the pros and cons of the stadia. Also, what about ODI venues? (I am also unsure that the venues really belong in an article about the team, rather than, say, in Cricket in India.)

More generally, several sections are too "listy" and need "prosifying" - specifically, "Tournament History", "Stadia", "Test Match Captains", "Famous players". -- ALoan (Talk) 11:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

For the stadia section, rather than have a list, it would be better just to mention the famous few but then discuss Indian cricket grounds in general. An example is that traditionally the international cricket grounds in India are batsman and spin friendly. Gizza^{Chat ©} 11:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Indeed: that would help to explain India's traditional strengths in spin and batting, and the problems that visiting teams often have in dealing with the conditions, when their swing and seam bowlers often fail to perform. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, apart from History this article is pretty much even with the West Indian cricket team article. Now we have to do what it takes to get up to Featured Article Status. Famous Players is similar to Arsenal F.C., so I reckon it is alright, as is the Captains list which is similar to the Arsenal F.C. managers list. Tournament History may need some changing and I agree with DaGizza on the Stadia topic. Nobleeagle (Talk) 23:49, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Table Alignment

We need to maintain some consistency. I suggest we left align the current squad table. Comments? Nobleeagle (Talk) 00:34, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

ODI venues

An anon feels that mentions of ODI venues are also necessary

And Jawaharlal Nehru International Stadium,Cochin is the second largest stadium. which is only using for One day Internationals.

ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 05:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

WP:FAC

This is coming together very nicely. I have done a first-pass copyedit, and added a few questions as inline comments. There are a few areas that still need expanding (see my comments) but this is looking very good. The lead section could also do with a little expansion, to set the scene a bit better for non-cricketers (thinking of the American reviewers on FAC). WP:PR first?-- ALoan (Talk) 14:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Definitely a good idea to peer review first. I feel that the article has too many embedded lists at the moment, though I don't quite know what to do about it. Stephen Turner (Talk) 14:13, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I made the same comment a couple of sections above, but the article is getting better. I think the lists should be summarised as prose, with links to main acticle containing the actuals lists:

• Indian national cricket captains exists already, so there is no need for that list here. The contributions of the more prominent captains and more notable events under their leadership should be mentioned in a section of prose, or mentioned in the history section;
• The list of Test grounds could be moved to List of Test cricket grounds in India or similar (or perhaps an article with the ODI grounds too) - the related paragraph of text looks quite good;
• Famous players seems a bit superfluous - they should be mentioned, and their contribution explained, in the history section.
• Similarly, the tournaments should be explained in prose, probably in the history section, although the list could be moved to a sub-article.
• However, I think we need current squad, unless this also goes to a sub-article, and the table is the most concise way to present the information.

-- ALoan (Talk) 15:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I've had a go at the captains - see what I mean? Should we add the women's and U-19 captains? -- ALoan (Talk) 15:56, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

My idea of solutions in response to ALoan:

• Well done with the cricket captains paragraph, it looks pretty good, I created the table because it was on the West Indies page.
• I don't see too much of a problem with this. But I think List of cricket grounds in India would be better, and we could seperate Test from ODI, it would keep everyone happy. Then elaborate in the prose summary so that it's not a section stub.
• I think famous players have already been pretty much mentioned in Recent Performance and History, no need for them, I'm removing unless anyone has strong views against my doing so.
• Not sure what to do about this, once again I don't mind too much with how it's done at the moment.
• On the Current Squad point I agree, this is the best way to set it out as long as it is updated regularly.

Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I have nominated it as a Good Article, which I believe will definitely succeed as. Step by step, this will become a FA! Gizza^{Chat ©} 09:14, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hope you are sure about this, still a bit of work may be required...Nobleeagle (Talk) 00:45, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I've answered all of ALoan's inline comments. Feel free to add any more whenever you see some inadequency. Nobleeagle (Talk) 04:46, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Image

Article does not have a single GFDL, PD, CC etc. images. It has two images, both are considered as fair use. To be featured article we need at least an image which should be considered above mentioned license. Thanks Shyam ^(T/C) 21:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I haven't been involved in many FAC, but the criteria says that images are not prerequisites for an FA. Nobleeagle (Talk) 04:47, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

FAC Criteria

This is my biased opinion, but I think it meets everything pretty well apart from 3a. The lead-in might need a bit of work. Then again, that's my opinon. Nobleeagle (Talk) 04:47, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it meets 4 because although it states images are not necessary, it says that if there images appropriate to the article, then FAs should have those appropirte images. It is possible to have images for the Indian cricket team but we don't have any, which makes the article incomplete. A couple of more points would also need referencing. These issues will be brought up again in more detail when we do a Peer Review. Gizza^{Chat ©} 06:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

If an inline comment is left at every inadequency in this article, I will try and fix it up. I personally don't have any images for the article, so I guess Criteria 4 may be a problem for us yet. Nobleeagle (Talk) 06:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

WP:PINSAC

While we are waiting for the Good Article results to come in, do you think it's worthwile to get some info from the people at Portal:India by nominating it as a selected article? Or is it still a bit too early for that. Selected Article, after all, looks good on your resume for FA status. Nobleeagle (Talk) 00:16, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I was bold enough to do it. There's no harm in nominating it even if it doesn't meet the criteria. The main purpose of nominating it is to receive contructive criticism on how the article can be improved and head in the right direction. Whether or not it is selected, it will be closer to becoming a FA, our ultimate aim. Gizza^{Chat ©} 00:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I need to work on that being bold stuff :)... 07:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

International Tournaments

Would anyone mind if I converted international tournaments to prose and merged the section on the World Cup with the International Tournaments?? Nobleeagle (Talk) 08:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Not at all, the World Cup section ties in better with the tournaments sections rather than the history section, which should be a brief overview of the Indian cricket team in general. Gizza^{Chat ©} 23:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Done but the prose isn't billiant. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Promotion!

User:Dwaipayanc has promoted our page to Good Article status on WP:GAC. He unlisted Indian cricket team from the page some time ago but didn't change the tags or anything. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:50, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

OOps. Sorry for the mistake. Will not happen again ;). regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Peer Review

I'm going to be bold and nominate this for Peer Review in order to get it to FA Status as soon as possible. Nobleeagle (Talk) 08:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Right here are the concerns we need to deal with before FAC:

• Infobox needs to be made more appealing Thank-you Saravask
• Possibly win/loss graphs on performance
• Cricketers' photos if possible
• A map of the venues if possible
• Add Selection Procedure somewhere
• Add info on Coach, manager, physio etc.
• Add specialty to players (eg. Leg spinner)

Let's get working... Nobleeagle (Talk) 23:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Virender Sehwag/archive1

A bit of a diversion for some shameless self-promotion. I feel that we need to get a solid base on the bios of the current players before they play too many matches and it gets way out of control. It took me four hours to do up the Sehwag page, but it has taken about 7 hours and not even half done at User:Blnguyen/Rahul Dravid - I'm sure the production costs are worse than linear (Dravid has played twice as many games as Sehwag, but probably will take 3-4 times as long), so probably although I should be on wikibreak, things like Irfan Pathan, Mahendra Singh Dhoni, Mohammad Kaif, Rudra Pratap Singh, Ajit Agarkar, Vikram Singh, Dinesh Karthik etc. Luckily Yuvraj Singh, Harbhajan Singh, Shanthakumaran Sreesanth and Suresh Raina have been renovated recently. It's just that if you let things slide into the past it becomes hard to remember what happened and the writing process becomes a bit of a mess. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 01:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
BTW, perhaps we should remove the sentence about Pathan's pace bowling...............Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 01:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Problems

I think that this article is too focussed on presenting the good things only. We need some info about Azharuddin and Jadeja being involved in match-fixing. Also I think it should mention the Kolkata riot in WC96, another in 99 when there was an empty stadium and also the Bengali protests after Ganguly was dropped. The protests claiming racism after Sehwag was suspended in RSA 2001 and the whole team was fined is also important. What about the controversies about the zonal selection policy and alleged skulduggery of Dalmiya and Pawar. This may be tied into the regionalism issue with the Bengalis cheering RSA last year against India after Ganguly was dropped and Chappell gave the Bengalis the finger.

The comment "from strength to strenght" re the 1990s isn't a fair descriptor IMHO as India's victory 2-1 over Pakistan in 2004 was the first away series victory in 20 odd years. India did not even beat Zimbabwe in the 1990s in Zimbabwe. Also there should be more about the article gives me the impression that India has had a decent fast bowling line-up. Apart from Srinath were there any pacers who averaged less than 30? It is normal that pacers have lower averages than spinners (it is harder to be a qualtiy spinner) and IIRC Kumble's average ~28 is the best for an Indian. Just now you can see that Ambrose, Donald, Pollock, McGrath, Waqar, Wasim Akram, Garner, in recent years averaged 20-22. Mihir Bose in "History of Indian cricket" feels that Venkatesh Prasad and Srinath were India's best two pace bowlers and best combo - yet Prasad averaged 35. Looking at Zaheer, Agarkar, Nehra etc they all averaged 35+ which is not good at all. If you exclude Pathan's slaughter against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, his bowling average is high 30s, and RP Singh, Munaf Patel and Sreesanth are only starting.

Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 03:39, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Right, I will put most of the stuff on riots in the section on Fans, along with burning Effigees etc. The match fixing scandal should go in the history section and I'll research on quick bowlers. The Dalmiya Pawar and internal BCCI political affairs might deserve a bit of a say here but would be better off in the BCCI article itself. Thanks. Nobleeagle (Talk) 05:12, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

A quick comment : After slow beginnings, the Parsi's were eventually invited by the Europeans to play a match in 1877. [5]

Not sure whether this is important because it never happened. But some mention could be made of Parsis tour of England in 1886 and 1888. There must be a reference to the India's first official tour of England in 1911. Tintin (talk) 05:23, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

The picture is of Wankhede but is it the Indian team ? The comment in Image:Wankhede-1.JPG reads "Asish Sarkar (Middle) fielding at short third-man during the Al Rushaid Challenge Trophy on Friday 23rd June 2006." Tintin (talk) 14:09, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I think you might've got conned by an anon vandal. I knew I'd seen the image before 23rd June so I checked the history and it turns out it was uploaded March 27 and an anon added the text you read on June 27. Nobleeagle (Talk) 23:13, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Right I'll just make a list for my own benefit:

• Match-fixing in History section
• Rioting (inc. empty stadium, Ganguly protests, crowd cheering South Africa, crowd booing Tendulkar, protests against Sehwag's ban etc.) in Fan Following section
• Create an entire section on Governing Body, detail how the BCCI works and the selection policies etc.
• Fix inline comments
• Do a major rewrite, especially on the history section

I'm not sure about the decent fast-bowling lineup, India's always been known for its weakness in that area...but I'll go through Stats Guru and see if I can find anything. Nobleeagle (Talk) 00:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

the article needs to be updated for eg the article says that Sehwag has a highest score of 309 which in fact was succeeded by him with a score of 317Vgautham 91 (talk) 10:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Why not update it yourself then? Andrew nixon (talk) 13:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Failure in Big ODI matches and failure in crisis situation

(Almost consistent) Failure at Big OID matches should find place in a (new) criticism section. Also after Kapil Dev no one from the team including very big names being able to bail out the team in dificult situation (last notable being years old NatWest series which is repeatedly shown on Sports channel) should be mentioned there.
My POV: All other teams regularly have/had some players who bailed out their team in difficult situation and won the game for them (Steve Waugh, Brian Lara, Inzamam, Fleming, Abdul Razzak etc) and without such gritty and strong willed players in Team, I am reminded of a dialoge from Sholay. Vjdchauhan 06:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC).

Firstly please see my reply at Talk:Sachin Tendulkar. To elaborate my point mentioned there, I think Dhoni has very recently shown that he can perform in crisis situations. In their recent ODI series against England when chasing scores of about 250/260, India sometimes slumped to 4 or 5 wickets for 100. Then Dhoni with another batman (usually Pathan, Yuvraj or Dravid) would help India eventually chase down the target. Also don't you remember Dravid and Laxman's second partership against Austrlia in Adelaide that lead to India's first Test win in Australia after a very long time (I admit however that was awhile ago).

Despite what I have said, note that any assertions made have to be supported by reliable sources and have to be verifiable. Thanks Gizza^{Chat ©} 08:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

See, another feather (loss to South Africa in 2'nd ODI on 22-Nov-2006) in long series of failure in difficult situation. Vjdchauhan 21:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC).

Repeat (dismal) performance in 3'rd, 4'th (South Africa, 29-Nov-2006) and 5'th ODI (South Africa, 03-Dec-2006) as well. Vjdchauhan 05:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC).

How about we start a section about fans with overhyped expectations? ;) Sam Vimes | Address me 12:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

That was a shocking series. Full Stop. Someone else can write about that series in the article. Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 04:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't get carried away by success in Test match as its quite different game format and Indian team as of now is a very weak ODI team and may be a good to very good test team but again it cannot chase big target in second innings successfully since there is more pressure then and also if there is another ODI series with South Africa the results will not be much different, it can only win ODI matches if opening pair (frankly a less pressure job as compared to middle order) performs well and ease off pressure for the rest of the inning ;-) Vjdchauhan 15:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC).

Now there a respectable total (> 300) to chase to win the second test against South Africa, any takers for our extremely gritty Indian Team esp fans for Sehwag, Tendualkar, and Dravid (Dravid according to me can at max convert can it to a respectable loss / draw). All the best. Vjdchauhan 12:20, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

So title of this section still holds true. Vjdchauhan 15:51, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

Until you can define "success" and "failure" in NPOV and with sources... --Dave. 16:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Retirement of Sourav Ganguly

In addition to Anil Kumble, Sourav Ganguly's status should be changed to "recently retired". ArunRamanIyer (talk) 23:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

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The article is fairly stable now and remove protection so that Wikipedians like me who don't wish to have an account on Wikipedia but yet want to improve it, get an opportunity to do so. --128.211.201.161 (talk) 02:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

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Indian Fan section

This section should be totally removed if certain entries that embarass some are deleted, whilst leaving pov rubbish like: "However, it should be noted that a successful string of results, victories against arch-rivals Pakistan or victory in major tournaments such as the World Cup are greeted with particular ecstasy from the Indian fans." Symonds was racially abused by the fans after which the BCCI tried to pretend it didn't happen and then were embarassed when it happened again. BartBart (talk) 12:06, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

It is not a long term pattern. He was abused two times and has been to India a few times before, and not by a large majority. Isn't the Pakistan thing obvious, the losing sides fans are always causing riots when they lose. In other cases, the whole crowd got ejected, eg at Eden Gardens or the match was cancelled because of rioting or stadium burning. Or are you saying that stadium burnings reflect well that is why they were in there. In 2005 after Ganguly was dropped, some die-hard Bengali groups started blocking traffic etc. If 60% of the fans consistently made monkey noises, like they did in some soccer matches in Spain and Italy, the match would be cancelled or forfeited or the fans would be kicked out. This incident hasn't caused riots or stoppages yet, unlike the other instances. YellowMonkey (click here to choose Australia's next top model!) 07:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

For the record this is what was removed:

In 2007 crowds at the One Day Series at Vadodara, Nagpur and Mumbai were seen to racially abuse Australian cricketer Andrew Symonds with monkey chants. After the BBCI initially denied the incident at Vadodara took place, further incidents at other grounds in the series proved the allegations correct.

It is notable because it caused international disquiet and the BCCI refused to acknowledge that it happened until it happened another two times (three in total). It is obviously being removed because it was embarassing whilst other poorly written fan blogging in the whole article has been left in. It doesn't matter whether it is a long term pattern or not. Something can happen once (or three times) and still be notable. The BCCI response, in particular, is even more notable than the actual abuse. And the fact that the small paragraph was referenced should be enough for it to remain.BartBart (talk) 11:05, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmm. Anyone who has a look a BartBart's edit history can clearly see that he has an agenda. You have made numerous edits to Murali, Ranatunga and Harbhajan's pages ... all of which paint them in bad light while editing Symonds and Warne's articles which do the opposite in relation to their controversies. I am not necessarily saying any of those edits contained wrong information but am concerned over your POV pushing as it shows you clearly have an agenda. Furthermore you have been doing the same in your edits of AFL articles, writing on controversial issues relating to both Jeff Farmer and Barry Hall (both of whom are hated by fans of the club you support West Coast).

I am also certain that Yellowmonkey is not removing this material because he is 'embarrassed by it' ... for that theory to work he would have to be Indian. For the record neither am I but feel free to accuse me of being one as you seem to have quite a large chip on your shoulder. Cheers. Jevansen (formerly Crickettragic) (talk) 08:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to have a look at what I have entered if you are going to mention the pages I have edited. If you do, you will see that everything is factual and is correctly referenced. And if you look closely enough you will see I have updated a lot of the stats on the India national cricket team page (win/loss record, etc.). The only change I have made to Symonds page was the above incident. If you have a closer look at my changes to Harbhajan's page you will see I have made some stats corrections - such as correcting the fact that he is India's 3rd highest wicket taker and not highest as it previously said. Similarly with Ranatunga's page - a lot of it was fixing stats, so don't take the number of edits as meaning anything. So your statement that my changes to the Sri Lankan and Indian pages "all of which paint them in bad light" is patently incorrect.

As far as AFL goes, you forgot to mention various editing such as Mark/Goal of the Year, various medals like the Simpson Medal winners, etc.

It is not about painting a person, team, etc in a certain light. It is putting down facts/incidents that have actually happened and correctly referencing them as an encyclopedia should. Whether or not the incidents are controversial is inconsequential. And if my assumption on Yellowmonkey being Indian is incorrect then I stand corrected and apologise on that account.BartBart (talk) 15:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

btw - congrats on the creation of pages on cricket's and AFL's lesser known players. BartBart (talk) 15:15, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Weak bowling

I think the article is too flowery. Tintin once pointed out to me that reading the article, you do not get the impression that one is talking about a team which has won 22% (?) of its Test matches. I looked up the Australian and Indian all time bowling averages ( [1] [2]), and it can be seen that the best Indian average Bishen Singh Bedi, would slot in at #46 in Australia. The article mentions that India holds many bowling records, but I think this is not an accurate reflection of the reality. Kapil Dev is also the only fast bowler to average under 30. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I took a quick look, it seems like mentioning all those names and saying that these players improved India's batting lineup or that they were star players and then going on to say India did not win any in all 33 tests it played in this decade. The star players stuff sort of overshadows the grim mood of not winning. The article doesn't tell the reader that the team was going through a really bleak period and players were dropped and they just couldn't work out how to win. Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 05:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and on the stats, India's won 49% of their ODIs to date and have won 22% of tests, drawn 46% of tests and lost 33% of tests (88 wins, 129 losses, 182 draws). However, if you exclude the 50s and 40s, which were the years when Indian cricket was just getting started, the percentages for wins and draws go up (82 wins, 101 losses, 152 draws). Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 05:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

So too hagiographic? or not? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:16, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

It is too hagiographic but I think the reason is more on the way the text is written as opposed to it missing criticism (although India's recent batting weakness on seaming pitches and India's bowling conundrums in history don't get enough mention), I may be to blame for that because as an Indian I do possess some bias. A complete rewrite is needed. Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 05:27, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you should ask Vjdchauhan to add some of his opinions (see above) :) He has plenty to criticise but maybe after India's first Test win in South Africa, he would have softened his stance a little. Gizza^{Chat ©} 10:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I will still stick to what I have said, failure in BIG ODI and failure in crisis situation, for tests this applies to second innings chase of a respectable total to score a win. Pls note Test Cricket is very different format than ODI which is again quite different from 20-20 and I think if we have another series of ODI games against South Africa the results will not be much different. Indian team as of now is a very weak ODI team and may be a good to very good test team. Vjdchauhan 15:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC).

India is a very weak ODI team outside India. The reason they lost the Champions Trophy was because of the long break they had from competitive cricket, but before that (inside the subcontinent) they beat Sri Lanka 6-1, England 5-1 and Pakistan 4-1, thanks to guys like Dhoni, Yuvraj and Tendulkar who were consistent in those series's. Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 22:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

A few years back, India was stronger in ODIs than in Test overseas. Remember the NatWest final? It changes far too often. There is no point in writing about current form in too much detail because it changes too much. Gizza^{Chat ©} 00:04, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Can we find a source for labelling it the most unpredictable team in cricket? :) Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 00:20, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

No, that would be Pakistan. In any case in 2000-01 Australia were undefeated in ODI, the next year, they missed the CUB finals and the Waugh brothers were axed.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

This is becoming off-topic now. In fact, much of the discussion of India's recent performances is silghtly off-topic since we are not even writing about it in the article. Gizza^{Chat ©} 02:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Well OK, I put Irfan Pathan up for WP:GAC - somewhat related to India's bowling difficulties at the moment. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:20, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I know that Wiki is not a forum but I must comment that India isn't bowling that badly in either form. It is the top-order batting which is letting down the team. Gizza^{Chat ©} 05:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Avoid one-sentence paragraphs

A general rule when writing FAs. Two sentenes isn't much either. I found a few in the article. See User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a: exercises in textual flow. Gizza^{Chat ©} 23:08, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Feedback

I am looking through the place for imbalances in coverage factual info at the moment.

• Governing body
  • Not sure if it would be particularly relevant, but there has often been debates as to how big the BCCI is in influencing the ICC - allegations false or otherwise that the BCCI is the leading Asian nation in terms of getting rid of Darrell Hair, sticking up for Murali, etc, and trying to change the Future Tours Program. I'm not sure where this fits in, but if the BCCI is the richest sports body in the world, then the fact that the wages seem to be a rip-off - A C Grade contract is a base of 2million rupees = 44k USD [3] and A grade [4] is 8million = 180k. The Australian team pays A$200k= 150k USD to all the top 25 players, whereas the Indian contracts only cover about 15 people. Have there ever been any bits and pieces about BCCI corruption and largesse on the part of the officials, because it is very clear that the Indian players are paid very poorly in terms of the % revenue which they get. The lead also says the Indian cricket team is the highest paid in the world, which seems either wrong or misleading, the salaries can't be greater than Real Madrid, Chelsea, Ferrari, NY Yankees, etc. Do we need to discuss general circket infrastructure, MRF pace acdemy etc here?, and things like the various domestic tournaments? Also India and the subcontintent teams have a very strong bias towards playing lots of ODIs and not many Tests which need to be pointed out.
• Captaincy
  • Needs to point out that Tendulkar took over after 96WC, resigned, then Azhar got reappointed and sacked after WC99 and then Tendulkar did another stint. Seems a bit lopsided towards recentism, but we're probably both in our early twenties so we don't remember before the 1990s (need Tintin).

Please don't make it sound as if I am three score years and ten. I am hardly ten years older than Blnguyen :-) Tintin (talk) 06:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I have added this although it has unbalanced the history section again. :( Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

• Coaches
  • Do we need a bit of history of coaches. I remember people saying Chappell would do well because he is a foreigner and would not be tied down my factional zonal politics etc. Is he the first non-native coach? Is there interesting history on the coaches?

Added the bit about Wright being the first foreign coach.

• Fan following
  • I have some info about Bengalis repeatedly giving Gavaskar a bad time at Eden Gardens which I can add. IIRC there was another Calcutta riot in 99 after SRT crashed into Shoaib Akhtar and was run out and the crowd was evicted?

Did this. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

• Team colours
  • IIRC the GoI made a new law banning sportspeople from wearing the national flag. Should this be mentioned?
• History
  • An obvious recentism problem with half of this being on the last 10 years and 25% on the last two years. I guess the earlier part needs to be fattened up, and then we could choose the information balance. I don't really know much at all about the team in detail pre 1995 even, but I have this book about the top 25 cricketers of all time with me, and I can glean a bit from the 1970s and 1980s from the entries it has for Gavaskar and Kapil Dev. They exchanged the captaincy several times. It mainly mentions personal stuff, but India went 32 Tests (home as well as away) with only 1 win and 28 consecutive without a win when the crowd at Eden Gardens rioted in 1983. Another random fact is that the 2-0 home win over Pakistan in 1979 was the first series win against Pakistan since 1952. Apprarently Kapil and Gavaskar fought a lot. Also pretty sure that in 1980 when Kapil got his 100th Test wicket, it would have been the first pacer from India to do this (baiscally India's first fast bowler). It's mainly lack of stuff on team results, I think, it describes that India had some great players, but the team also did not win a lot so the results probably need to be pointed out some more. Again, ask Tintin to add stuff I think. I'm not sure where but there must also be an article somewhere where it notes that Indian players are not renowned for good fielding and running between the wickets.

Added some of these, but it bloated the history in some sections. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

As far as POV language/adjectives goes and prose, I'm sure it can be fixed later. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:22, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

We need to avoid too much length in the history section as well. Extra information would do best in History of the Indian cricket team and this should just be a summary. The recent performances used to be a different section altogether, which is why it is really long, I'll try cutting that down to make way for more information on the past. For the other things, could you please just attach sources to each of the facts. Most are worthy for the article but would need sources for non-cricket interested people etc. There are four paragraphs about the 2000s, I aim to cut that down to 2. Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 22:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Aren't we supposed to source everything? I do, when I submit FAs and GAs, every fact and expert opinion is sourced. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I know, but yours asking me to add those things without presenting sources for the opinions and facts you presented sort of confused me. Of course I can search through and look for sources myself when I add them. Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 03:35, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

How do we go about the history part. Do you want to cut it down more? I think that it is hard to explain anything at the moment if there are two sentences on the 1950s nothing in the 1970s and two sentences on the 1970s about the spin quartet and Gavaskar. If we made it consistent with this to reduce, it would be hard to understand the evolution of the team, as we can't explain the ups and downs. Even with a the section on the 1980s and 1990s an expansion would be necessary on the rest. Personally, I don't mind having a 100kb FA at all - Ian Thorpe - Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I think a small expansion would actually do well, not 100k type of course, but although we've got History of the Indian cricket team, it's, as you said, important that readers can understand the evolution of the team. You can't present 70 years of evolution that easily and briefly. However...the section is large right now, I was thinking maybe we can remove the specific results. In the matches relating to recent years, you can steadily see more and more numbers. I think generalized statements would be better in this case, leaving numbers to go into the main History article. Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 05:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:PR/WP:FAC

I can hardly believe that I last looked at this properly in the middle of last year!

Is it worth going for a second peer review before taking this to FAC? -- ALoan (Talk) 19:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah go for a PR before making it a FAC. Always best to do that if it hasn't had a PR in a while. Buc 17:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Questions

I am new to this article (and the Cricket project), so I'll apologize in advance if these question have been addressed before: Is the subject of the article "Indian Cricket Team", or "Cricket in India" ? I assume "team" is included in the title, because this article does not aim to cover domestic and non-competitive cricket. However if that is the case and the team is the focus, why are sections such as "Test cricket grounds" relevant to this article ? Abecedare 08:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that there is an article on Cricket in India (although it is not in as good a shape). Doesn't the "Test cricket grounds" section logically belong to that article - after all the Indian cricket team is not tied to Indian grounds, playing only 50% of its matches at home I am sure someone will correct me on this :-)  ? Abecedare 08:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

You are probably right that the grounds should not be in an article on the team. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Team India plays for BCCI, not Govt

I am new to Wikipedia. I see that the title of the article is inappropriate as CRICKET TEAM IN INDIA is not called 'INDIA NATIONAL CRICKET TEAM', but 'TEAM INDIA'. During the court case in supreme court, the BCCI counsel and senior advocate, Mr K.K. Venugopal, admitted 'Team India plays for BCCI, not Govt'. Since then every newspaper, advertisement and any campaign is made in the name of 'TEAM INDIA' not 'INDIAN TEAM'. Here are the references

http://www.blonnet.com/2004/10/01/stories/2004100103330400.htm
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=36740
http://cricket.indiatimes.com/Sections/News/Indian_Cricket/Flag_fallout_Goverment_corners_BCCI/articleshow/msid-1027990,curpg-1.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Some_good_things_happened_in_Windies/articleshow/1804312.cms

I don't understand as how it could amount to vandalism! Partha 03:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

You are wrong, the team is the India national cricket team. Team India is an alternative name. Andrew nixon 23:48, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

The national cricket team plays for the people, not the government, even if it is directed by either govt or cricket board. --Dave. 23:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Dave and Andrew Nixon, I am sorry but denials are not just sufficient. I wonder if you even bothered to go through the references I've provided. Anyway, here's another reference that is as unequivocal and explicit as it can get. Let me quote verbatim ..

The Indian team does not belong to the nation. The players are employees of a private society registered as an association under Tamil Nadu's Society Registration Act of 1860.

This association, the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), is affiliated to a limited company registered in the British Virgin Islands called the International Cricket Council (ICC). Cricket is a private enterprise.

As you can see, Indian cricket players are employees of BCCI which is as private as an enterprise can get. Neither does BCCI report to the sports ministry nor do the players. BCCI is in many ways a membership-only club as are its affiliate bodies like the State Cricket Associations (the cricket governing bodies at the state level). And, the so called Indian national team is just a team fielded by this private club called BCCI. That it is anything more than that is quite simply myth and not fact.

I would appreciate anybody replying to this comment, please go through the all four references above, first. Partha 03:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

On facts, I agree whole-heartedly with Partha. On the proposed suggestion, not completely. Changing the title of this page alone is definitely not an option. There are national teams from dozens of countries. I am not sure about all, but many of them are private and limited organisations like the BCCI. But the trouble is that not all have an alternate (and technically correct) name. Indian team is known as "Team India" but the Pakistani team is not known as "Team Pakistan". In fact, with teams like Australia, the test and one-day teams are known by different names, the one-day team being known as "Commonwealth Bank one-day international team". To comply with all technicalities, it would require splitting the Australian teams page into two separate ones. The current naming convention at least provides a common framework of team names, and is not misleading until a nation decides to field two teams in same form of the game. These issues apart, I would strongly recommend adding the fact mentioned above to the article, as the issue raised is valid and the readers should know the facts. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm against the word national as national usually brings up something to do with the 'government'. But I see nothing wrong with Indian cricket team. India=yes; cricket=yes; team=yes. So what's wrong with that even if they play for BCCI? =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I feel that User:Parthakr has a valid point. Going by the references he has given, I think it is a fair demand that the article be moved to "Team India". Unlike Australia(which Ambuj points out) I think the Indian team is called Team India whether it is one day cricket or test cricket. So there shouldnt be any confusion on that count. As for the other teams also, I think they should be examined and changes should be made if there are compelling arguments like the ones that Partha has presented here.

"Indian Cricket Team", I'm afraid goes as much against the points that Partha has made as "Indian National cricket team". Because, the point being made here is that the team is not 'Indian ' even though they have a "India" in their name. In other words, Team India does NOT represent the country. They represent BCCI. I think "Team India" would be a fair move and "Indian cricket team", "Indian national cricket team" etc., can be redirects at best. Sarvagnya 17:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Although I don't see any immediate need to move the page to "Team India", we might soon want to create seperate articles and name them accordingly. But as of now there is only one team representing India in international arena and it sure possess every right to be called "India Cricket Team". "National" - I'm not sure enough. Gnanapiti 21:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

...there is only one team representing India in international arena...

That is precisely the myth that these references here by Parthakr seek to refute. The players are NOT representing India. They are representing the BCCI. The fact that maybe all of them were born in India and hold Indian passports is just coincidence. "Team India" is the brand name which they represent and that is what the article should read as. imo.

Sarvagnya 22:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I would say that User:Parthakr has provided enough refrences to make a valid point. The article should be moved to Team India, and the Indian national cricket team and all other names should be redirected to it. --Agεθ020 (ΔT • ФC) 23:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Irrespective of those sources, Parthakr still has to mention why the team wears "India" on their shirts, and the score cards read India and not BCCI. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

What Nichalp says is true. The Board of Control for Cricket in India is India's national cricket board. The fact that they pay the players does not remove the fact that the players represent their nation. No-one says that the players are the ambassadors for the BCCI, they instead say that the players are the ambassadors for India. I understand Parthakr's point and sources. I must point out that India and the government of India are not synonymous, the Indian cricket team does not play for the government and the government has no jurisdiction on the team, but they play for the people of India who are represented by the government but who arent the government. But I think it would be better if it was moved back to "Indian cricket team". As Nichalp pointed out, Indian cricket team implies three things:

• They are Indian. Yes, every player on the team has to be Indian and comes from various parts of India. Yes, everyone in India regards this as the team which represents India.
• They play cricket. Sometimes I wondered what they were trying to play during the match against Sri Lanka but officially they try to play cricket.
• They are a team. There could be arguments against the teamwork but in general they are considered a team.

In addition to this. Indian cricket team seems better than India national cricket team in just the sense of the flowing of the words. Also I'm not sure whether this has been mentioned above but renaming the article to Team India doesn't suggest that the team play cricket, for all we know the Indian Chess team could call themselves Team India, then should we have a disambig page redirecting people to Team India (cricket), Team India (chess), Team India (kabaddi). This page should be moved back to Indian cricket team, as THAT is the best choice anyone can make. -- 211.26.235.50 07:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

1. I don't think any of the national teams in the world represent their government: they all represent their various cricket boards. That doesn't stop them being national teams.
2. We usually don't use the current marketing name or sponsor's name for sports teams, stadiums etc. because they change too rapidly. Of course, a redirect from the marketing name is appropriate, but the main article is usually at the long-term name.
3. Most other international team sports use the "national" in their name. For example, India national football team (which also doesn't represent the government but the All India Football Federation).

Stephen Turner (Talk) 08:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The Indian team is only national in the sense thats its players are all Indian nationals. (Even this requirement is recent. Many Indian nationals have played for UAE cricket teams etc. That really doesn't change a thing actually. In many sports people play for foreign based teams.) It doesn't represent Indian Govt directly & by implication doesn't represent Indian nation directly. The only time that the Indian cricket team actually played as the Indian national cricket team in the legal sense was during the 1998_Commonwealth_Games. Technically only this team which played as amateurs played for the nation of the Republic of India. (The current team plays as professionals). Many teams such as Scotland, England, World XI, Asia XI, West Indies don't represent any nation. There have been international matches between Australia & Australia 'A'. Which nation is playing which in those cases? One more thing, the football team does play for Govt of India whenever it plays Asian Games, Olympics etc. Cheers. --Shahab 20:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I left a note in WP:Cric message board - "The Indian cricket team is an international cricket team representing India.' is the first statement in the wikiarticle Indian national cricket team. I think this representation is incorrect. The Indian crickte team does not represent India but represents only BCCI, a private trust (there was a Madras High court case sometime back). The only team that represented India was at the 1998 Asian Games in KL. Also, the BCCI is completely independent of Govt of India action - the Sports ministry has no authority over BCCI.. Was there any conclusion for this discussion? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vimalkalyan (talk • contribs)

My best advice would be to move the page to Indian Cricket team and make redirects to the new page from India National Cricket Team.Blackhole77 ^{talk | contrib} 13:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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Which goes completely against consensus as agreed at the cricket project. According to the consensus, this pages stays at India national cricket team. Not Indian Cricket Team, not India National Cricket Team and certainly not Team India. Andrew nixon 13:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

GA removed

As part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force/Sweeps and a review of the cricket GA cohort, I have removed this article from GA. This was the version when this article was passed for GA about 16 months ago. The main problems were

• Major recentism in the history section
• Lack of information about administrative governance controversy
• Lack of sources
• Some POV in that the article does not reflect India's performance at Test level (about 23% win rate) and it mainly focuses on star players.
• Some parts seeming to be OR, eg "The remainder of the Test stadiums are considered lesser compared to these major stadiums"
• The lack of sources is exacerbated by tendency to use terms like "lost badly" and "strong" which are hard to put a finger on

As Nobleeagle is no longer around to improve the article, and the article has not really been loooked after since India were KOed from CWC07 I have gone ahead and done a bold delisting. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixtures

Wikipedia is not a fixture list - rather, it's an encyclopedia. Please get consensus before readding it to this specific article, as general policy (which should only be ignored with consensus in specific cases) is against the addition. Daniel 07:59, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Test Cricket grounds

Surely this section should go into the Cricket in India article and not one about the actual team. Nomadtales (talk) 06:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Non-capped contracted players

I feel that said players should be omitted from the squad list, as it makes it rather large and unwieldy. Thoughts? HornetMike (talk) 13:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Replacement of Table

I think this list should be upgraded to reflect the Champions Trophy Probables List. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suddhadeep (talk • contribs) 11:23, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Logo of the BCCI and not flag of India

The usage of the logo of the BCCI rather than the flag of the Republic of India is correct for the following reasons:

1. It is consistent with similar usage elesewhere (See England Cricket Team, Australian Cricket Team, Srilankan Cricket Team etc.) 2. The so called Indian National Cricket team does not truly represent the Republic of India as stated by a Supreme Court of India ruling (http://cricket.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1012207,prtpage-1.cms). They represent a team selected by the BCCI. This is the reason why the jerseys of teh Indian Cricket team do not carry the Indian flag (they merely carry the colors of the Indian flag).

So, with this information, I am using the logo of the BCCI on this page.

Vikram 1982 (talk) Vikram —Preceding undated comment added 19:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC).

I second this proposal..!! Hbkrishnan (talk) 05:40, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Archiving the talk page

The page is getting too long; if there aren't any objections over the next couple of days, I'll set up Miszabot to archive this with a minimum of 5 discussions to be left on here and a minimum age of archiving of 90 days. -SpacemanSpiff 05:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

go ahead. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 05:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

FAC

Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/India_national_cricket_team/archive1. For the record. The milestones part is busted YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

typo

can someone fix a typo: should be brabourne, not barabourne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.85.155 (talk) 05:36, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

fixed -SpacemanSpiff 05:38, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

ICC Rankings not up to date..

The Indian cricket team is currently ranked second (as of september 2012) by the ICC in ODIs and third (as of september 2012) in T20Is...All though the rankings are accurate,that "as of 6 Dec" thing should be changed to current times. I would've done that but I don't know how to include citations.Somebody please fix it.--Gokucherai12 (talk) 18:46, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Nishanthbio, 6 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Please change the selector raja venkat to Venkatapathy Raju and has an wiki article also link it to it.

Nishanth Kesireddy 16:48, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Welcome. Could you provide a source which ties these two names together? The name Raja Venkat comes from a source which identifies him as the BCCI selection committee member from the "east." Venkatapathy Raju's article has an unsourced claim that he is the selector from the "south" and nowhere in that article does it say he is sometimes called Raja Venkat. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 19:27, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

india players

please update all player record —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.131.123.174 (talk) 21:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

About the decisions that have to be made about the team selection and toss for the final of asia cup

Dear sir, I am nabil from dhaka,bangldesh.I am a huge supporter of the indian cricket team. I watch all india cricket matches and i closely follow the game.I have seen all the finals which india have lost and i have observed a pattern in all the losses and also by observing the last asia cup i have come to a conclusion that it would be best for india if they take batting first after winning the toss and they should take this decision irregardless of the pitch conditions since in a crunch game like this batting 2nd under lights would be very tough no matter how good the pitch is.Another thing which i would like to say is that india should take ashwin in the team tomorrow since i think that ashwin is such a bowler who could really stop the flow of runs even if doesnt get wickets.I think ashwin can perform for india in the finals in the same way as suraj randiv or muralitharan performs for sri-lanka.I would very honoured if the indian team thinks about my advice. With due respect, rizvan khan nabil dhaka bangladesh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.18.231.21 (talk) 17:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

1 tournament missing

Indian team had also won "World Championship of Cricket" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Championship_of_Cricket).Please include this as well.This tournament is present in other profiles of countries like West Indies,New Zealand.....

Please add this too!--116.72.157.56 (talk) 20:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Nish587, 22 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} India's current ranking is 3, whereas it shows in this page. Please change it. Please check the ICC yahoo site for proof.

Nish587 (talk) 20:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Done Dabomb87 (talk) 01:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request by Siddhesh Joglekar (talk) 16:15, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

The new Contract structure for the Indian Cricket team was unveiled recently - where the Grading system now only has Grade A to Grade C ( http://cricket.rediff.com/report/2010/nov/11/bcci-drops-yuvraj-singh-from-grade-a-contract.htm ) These changes need to be made here.

Edit Request about List of Test venues | 5th Jan 2011

On 12th November 2010 Rajiv Gandhi International Cricket Stadium,Hyderabad hosted its first test match between India and New Zealand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venkateshvuppala (talk • contribs) 20:03, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Ajuum, 6 January 2011 - India national cricket team

{{edit semi-protected}} BCCI Player Contracts section to be modified as per the below details ( annouced for 2010-11)

Grade A - Rs. 1 Crore ($225,990) Grade B - Rs. 50 lakh ($112,995) Grade C - Rs. 25 lakh ($56,498)

Reference:http://www.hindustantimes.com/BCCI-hikes-players-pay-demotes-Yuvi/Article1-624871.aspx

Ajuum (talk) 12:43, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Done I also moved the salary info below the player list, as that made more sense to me (it wasn't clear to me at the top). Qwyrxian (talk) 10:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Team Colours

Team India got new ODI & T20 jersey ahead of Australia series starting October 17. The new jearsy is of new brighter bolder shade blue jersey of blue as compared to previous one. This Jersey will also be used in upcoming icc cricket world cup starting February 19th 2011. According to Nike (the official apparel sponsor for the Board of Control for Cricket in India), Team India’s new ODI kit is made from Nike’s proprietary Dri Fit Technology, which the company says has superior moisture management which helps in keeping the skin dry and also keeps the athletes cool and dry. --Saurav.kumar007 (talk) 03:07, 20 February 2011 (UTC) --Saurav.kumar007 (talk) 04:22, 20 February 2011 (UTC) User:Aru123 talk

Tournament history

In the tournament history section, it needs to be explained what the red outlined boxes mean. Nev1 (talk) 22:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Error (april 2012) from 123plus

Hi, The info on this page needs to be corrected On April 2 2012 India beat Sri Lanka by six wickets to win the 2011 ICC Cricket World Cup. They were led by captain MS Dhoni who hit the winning runs for his team. The date should be April 2 2011. Please incorporate the change immediately. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123plus (talk • contribs) 17:45, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Unionym, 2 April 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} "On April 2 2012 India beat Sri Lanka by six wickets to win the 2011 ICC Cricket World Cup. They were led by captain MS Dhoni who hit the winning runs for his team"

In the Above quoted sentence, the year is mentioned wrongly. Please change "April 2 2012" to "April 2 2011"

Unionym (talk) 18:39, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Done. Nev1 (talk) 18:42, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 14.99.12.54, 2 April 2011

India is currently No.1 in both the test and one day formats of the game. India became No.1 in ODI format after becoming champions in the 2011 ICC Cricket World Cup beating Sri Lanka for 6 wickets in the final held at Wankhade Stadium, Mumbai on April 2, 2011.

14.99.12.54 (talk) 21:12, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

India are still number two in the World rankings, so I see no reason to make this edit. Andrew nixon (talk) 22:15, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Eshwarn, 3 April 2011

Kindly change the Para 2: "The Indian cricket team is currently ranked first by the ICC in Tests and second in ODIs" to "The Indian cricket team is currently ranked first by the ICC in Tests and ODIs"

Eshwarn (talk) 06:56, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

As I mentioned to the previous edit requester - India are still number two in the ICC ODI rankings. Andrew nixon (talk) 08:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 128.227.139.24, 12 April 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Please change the ODI rank (in right box) from #2 to #1. Reference for official cricket team ranking: http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings/content/page/211271.html

Thanks.

128.227.139.24 (talk) 13:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Did you even read that link? It says Australia are top in ODIs, 8 points ahead of India. Nev1 (talk) 13:57, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

addition of players to the squad

To the editor... I was just wondering if manoj tiwary is supposed to be on the list of current players, as he has been selected for the west indies tour.He is the only player not on the list who has, or is going to play for the current india squad 90.194.111.196 (talk) 22:00, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

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Personnel

Why is there no Ashok Dinda, Murali Kartik or Dinesh Karthik in the personnel section. Solar Police►Talk 14:29, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

The personnel section states that it includes playesr who have played for India in the past 12 months. Ashok Dinda has not played any international cricket since June 2010, Dinesh Karthik since August 2010, and Murali Kartik November 2007. Nev1 (talk) 14:37, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Then should Jaydev Unadkat be removed? Solar Police►Talk 15:48, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't get much more borderline than that. His last international match was a Test on 16–20 December, so it could go either way. At the moment, I'd be tempted to leave him in. Nev1 (talk) 18:02, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

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Player missed

I would like to tell you that you have misssed Ashish Nehra in the squad kindly make the changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.14.151.214 (talk) 15:08, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 31 December 2012

The team is owned by the BCCI and as per BCCI's filing in the Supreme court of India, the players while playing in any ICC match, represent the BCCI and not India 117.192.152.17 (talk) 21:32, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 16:35, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Bowling coach

The bowling coach is listed as John Dawes with a linkout to rugby player John Dawes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dawes).

The real bowling coach is Joe Dawes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Dawes).

The wikipedia page for Joe Dawes lists him as the current bowling coach of the Indian National Cricket team and hence no further proof is being provided.

-Dr. Oli Sarkar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.204.243.254 (talk) 19:31, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 June 2013

just wanted to point a fact Joelummen (talk) 11:20, 30 June 2013 (UTC) Indian cricket team is the only team in the world to lift all the major titles of men's cricket.that includes ODI WC -1983,2011 ,T20 WC-2007,Champions trophy -2002,2013,ICC ODI Championship Shield for number one ranked team (2012-2013) ,ICC Test Championship shield for number one ranked team(2010)..

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Cannot be called as the National Team

The India Cricket Team cannot be called as the India NATIONAL cricket team since the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) is not a government agency. It is a private club consortium. SourabhDev (talk) 04:40, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2014

Bhuvneshwar Kumar is now a Grade A player along with MS Dhoni, and Suresh Raina. Permission to edit information, as the Wikipedia page says that Bhuvneshwar Kumar is Grade B. Gnome765 (talk) 02:08, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2015

106.79.12.63 (talk) 05:49, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 07:59, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

210.212.179.181 (talk) 05:18, 22 March 2015 (UTC) Men in Blue may not be referred to as Police in Indian Wikipedia page. As the Police in India are not referred to as Men in Blue.

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Please see discussion at WT:CRICKET. Ratings do not update until end of series, so India are not rated number 1 yet. Spike 'em (talk) 05:58, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2017

Change 'Last ODI v Australia at M. Chinnaswamy Stadium, Bengaluru; 28 September 2017' to 'Last ODI v Australia at Vidarbha Cricket Association Stadium, Nagpur; 1 October 2017'Aryan.darad (talk) 10:33, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

ICC ODI rankings - Semi protected request

Its been very pathetic since the last week, The Indian cricket team is ranked the no.1 in ODIs, it was th 2nd since the last sunday, and still the article shows that its 3rd, and I can't edit ur article because of some lock or something, and no one is even bothered to change this, I mean, they can change the last ODI played which is today, but they can't change India's ranking informaation, viewers are being fed wrong information, if u can't change recent updates in the article, atleast let the concerned people do that. Change 'third in ODIs' to 'first in ODIs'

Aryan.darad (talk) 17:51, 24 September 2017 (UTC) Aryan.darad (talk) 17:46, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

They've been top for all of an hour, for being so rude, I"m not inclined to make the change you've requested.Spike 'em (talk) 19:57, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

This is a disgrace again. India have fallen back to number 2 over four hours ago and people are being fed false information. Why isn't anyone editing this page to correct this? Spike 'em (talk) 20:52, 28 September 2017

This is a disgrace again. India have topped the icc rankings over a minute ago and people are being fed false information. Why isn't anyone editing this page to correct this? Aryan.darad (talk) 15:19, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 3 October 2017

India recently defeated Australia 4-1 at home. http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-vs-australia-2017/live-india-vs-australia-5th-odi-nagpur-live-cricket-score/story-uNJLtDEECKX8GWnGhGKmeP.html Moshimoshi forever (talk) 20:53, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 23:24, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 October 2017

Please allow me to update Virat Kohli and other players' score scores in this article. Most T20I runs for India[5] HappyToHelp (talk) 21:13, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 00:46, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2017

In the Personnel section, Rohit Sharma should be mentioned as an opening batsman.

Please change "ODI, T20I vice-captain and middle-order batsman" to "ODI, T20I vice-captain and opening batsman".

14.139.38.11 (talk) 22:44, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2017

Aditya57 (talk) 07:58, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 08:22, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Squad tracker

Name	Test	ODI	Twenty20
Subramaniam Badrinath		27 August 2008
Lakshmipathy Balaji		8 February 2009
Piyush Chawla		2 July 2008
Mahendra Singh Dhoni	7 April 2009	14 March 2009	27 February 2009
Rahul Dravid	7 April 2009
Gautam Gambhir	7 April 2009	14 March 2009	27 February 2009
Manpreet Gony		28 June 2008
Ravindra Jadeja		8 February 2009	27 February 2009
Dinesh Karthik	30 March 2009
Zaheer Khan	7 April 2009	14 March 2009	27 February 2009
Virat Kohli		29 August 2008
Praveen Kumar		14 March 2009
VVS Laxman	7 April 2009
Amit Mishra	23 December 2008
Pragyan Ojha		5 February 2009
Munaf Patel	7 April 2009	8 March 2009
Parthiv Patel	11 August 2008
Irfan Pathan		8 February 2009	27 February 2009
Yusuf Pathan		14 March 2009	27 February 2009
Suresh Raina		14 March 2009	27 February 2009
Virender Sehwag	7 April 2009	14 March 2009	27 February 2009
Ishant Sharma	7 April 2009	14 March 2009	27 February 2009
Rohit Sharma		14 March 2009	25 February 2009
Harbhajan Singh	7 April 2009	14 March 2009	27 February 2009
RP Singh		17 November 2008
Yuvraj Singh	7 April 2009	14 March 2009	27 February 2009
Sachin Tendulkar	7 April 2009	8 March 2009
Robin Uthappa		6 July 2008
Murali Vijay	10 November 2008

Edit request from Rish9891, 18th October 2011

In the fan following section, last para, Sunil Gavaskar has been mentioned as Indian Marathi captain booed by Eden Gardens Bengali crowd. It is quite racist in nature. It should be- Indian captian Sunil Gavaskar booed by Eden Gardens crowd.

Team Colours

Following are the Indian National Cricket Team players and their jersey numbers:

Player Name	Jersey Number (Test, ODI, T20I)	Current Player
Sachin Tendulkar	10	No
MS Dhoni	7	Yes
Sourav Ganguly	99	No
Rahul Dravid	19	No
Virat Kohli	18	Yes
Virendar Sehwag	44	No
VVS Laxman	22	No
Anil Kumble	41	No
Irfan Pathan	56	No
Zaheer Khan	34	No
Yuvraj Singh	12	Yes
Cheteshwar Pujara	16	Yes
Ajinkya Rahane	17	Yes
Suresh Raina	3	Yes
Ravindra Jadeja	8	Yes
Ravichandran Ashwin	99	Yes
Rohit Sharma	10	Yes
Gautam Gambhir	5	yes
Yusuf Pathan	28	No
Dinesh Karthik	19	No
Shikhar Dhawan	25	Yes
Rudra Pratap Singh	09	No
Bhuwaneshwar Kumar	15	Yes
Pragyan Ojha	30	Yes
Harbhajan Singh	3	Yes
Vinay Kumar	23	Yes
Ambati Rayudu	5	Yes

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Map in international grounds section

The map is missing a lot of grounds; I thought at first it was only the active grounds, but the Barkatullah Khan Stadium is also listed, and that hasn't been in use since 2002. I don't think it's possible to fit all grounds into the image, however (especially in the cities with many grounds) Sam Vimes 16:17, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

I've had no response to this, so I've been bold and changed it to something true. Sam Vimes 07:07, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2019

Saiganeshkanchi03 (talk) 17:17, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

sir i want to delete and edit some improper topics of inc

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Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2019

Indian cricket team future matches

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_cricket_team_in_the_West_Indies_and_the_United_States_in_2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Indian_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320 103.8.250.125 (talk) 09:27, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2019

Indian cricket team future matches

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_cricket_team_in_the_West_Indies_and_the_United_States_in_2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Indian_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320 103.8.250.125 (talk) 09:30, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2019

103.8.250.125 (talk) 07:09, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Indian cricket team future matches

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_cricket_team_in_the_West_Indies_and_the_United_States_in_2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Indian_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_cricket_team_in_India_in_2019%E2%80%9320

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2019

Change Required for This Year test win for India. In this year India played 3 test and all test match won by India Jackyraval (talk) 04:07, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done Not clear what changes you want. The request should be of the format "please change X to Y". - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:53, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

2019-2019

It seems as if this part has been outdated. I believe it should be changed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.194.47 (talk) 23:29, 2 November 2019 (UTC) I think it should mention their World Cup effort and their series wins over South Africa has West Indies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.194.47 (talk) 23:53, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 December 2019

36.252.186.65 (talk) 16:41, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello iam fadendra shrestha i want to edit some of the data in this page

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Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2021

In the introduction, please link "political arch-rival of India" to the India–Pakistan relations article. 64.203.186.66 (talk) 16:40, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Your request is unlikely to be accepted as a suggestion because it is unencyclopedic and not neutral, but regardless Talk:India–Pakistan relations is the correct place to have this discussion. Bestagon (talk) 22:57, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Uh, what? I'm asking that political arch-rival of India be changed to [[India-Pakistan relations|political arch-rival of India]]. How is it a problem with attribution or NPOV to add a link? And in what sense is it unencyclopedic to add a link that's relevant to the context? 64.203.186.82 (talk) 17:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done. No NPOV concerns here. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:04, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2021

Hello, I am a new editer on Wikipedia (i hope i am doing the right thing to submit an edit request!) (: I would like to edit this page as I have seen some grammatical errors and incorrect information, its not a major edit, but it is still important. Please may I have permission to edit this page?

Kind regards,

BambooBrigade BambooBrigade (talk) 13:50, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 14:45, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2021 (2)

Change the name of the captain and the section showing rahane being captain in tests. 2409:4061:2D1E:5A1:10DC:E908:E1F6:3FE2 (talk) 19:23, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 00:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2021

Change "while its lowest was 42 against England in 1974." to "while its lowest score was 36 against Australia in 2020." Bhat Bull (talk) 09:01, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Next time make sure to accompany your edit request with a reliable source. Since this was easy enough to verify, I've made the edit and added a citation myself. Volteer1 (talk) 09:28, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2021

Please add File:Flag of India.svg in the infobox of this article. Thank You.119.160.117.232 (talk) 16:57, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Per MOS:INFOBOXFLAG; as that would be entirely decorative. Does the Indian cricket team have a more specific emblem, and do we have a suitably licensed version somewhere? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:34, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian: Most commonly the crest of BCCI is used to represent the Indian cricket team in international cricket and on their kits also but if anyone has objection on adding Flag as per above then File:India Vs New zealand One day International, 10 December 2010 (6159883395).jpg can be used instead of adding logo or flag in the infobox to represent the team. Thank You.119.160.118.113 (talk) 06:27, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done I've added the image you suggested of India vs New Zealand. If somebody feels that the crest of BCCI is more appropriate than go ahead and add that instead. Ericfood (talk | contribs) 08:15, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Team india

What do you think we should also add series history of team India as well as honours Divyakaran Singh Joshi (talk) 09:53, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

It's a great idea it must added all series and results should added it is not anywhere. Should I proceed with it.Priyanshudhalglt (talk) 18:37, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Add a Maharashtra stadium.

The Int Nat ground's map don't have Maharashtra Cricket Association Stadium name. Pin it on map. Newton Euro (talk) 14:01, 5 October 2021 (UTC)