Talk:Charles J. Turck

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 16:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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Turck c. 1931

• ... that Charles J. Turck (pictured) was accused of being a communist spy during his time as president of Macalester College? Source: Kilde, Nature and Revelation: A History of Macalester College (2010), page 200
  • ALT1: ... that Charles J. Turck (pictured) is the longest-serving president in the history of Macalester College? Source: Gonzalez-Campoy, Macalester Today May 1997, page 9
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jack Ruby Shoots Lee Harvey Oswald

Created by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 16:12, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Charles J. Turck; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• The article was moved to the mainspace on January 28 and nominated on the same day. It is also long enough at roughy 12,000 characters of readable prose. A QPQ is done.
  I think the main hook is much more interesting than the alternate, but both are good to go. (AGFing on the first source. As for the second one, I've checked it, and it confirms that Charles J. Turck is indeed the longest-serving president in the history of Macalester College.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 22:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

AGF on the offline source for ALT0, I moved it to the lead sentence where the hook could be supported for DYKCRIT. We can later move that out of the lead. Bruxton (talk) 16:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Charles J. Turck/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 16:01, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Hello, I'm going to take this article as part of the July backlog drive. I should be done in a couple of days at most. Kimikel (talk · contribs) 23:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Verifiable

@PCN02WPS: Did the source spot check, will do the rest later. Some small issues but overall nothing disqualifying. Kimikel (talk) 21:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

• [24]: actually belongs to a book: [1]. Citation should be adjusted accordingly
  • Thanks for pointing this out - fixed citation format. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
• [38]: does not support text. It can only claim his was the longest as of 1997, not as of 2024.
  • Added a citation with a list of past presidents to the current day. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
• [34]: verified
• [39]: does not say anything about their marriage being in 1914
  • Added citation to verify exact date. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
• [16]: verified

@Kimikel: these have been taken care of! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Awesome, will get to the rest today or tomorrow Kimikel (talk) 18:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

@Kimikel Sounds good, no rush! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

• @PCN02WPS: This is my full review. Honestly, I didn't catch much that needed to be corrected. Please let me know when you've had a chance to implement my suggestions. Thank you! Kimikel (talk) 01:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

  @Kimikel Thanks for taking a look - everything has been changed or responded to! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

  @PCN02WPS thank you for the quick response - I'm awaiting clarification on whether or not I have the authority to close this review. Once that gets cleared up this should be able to be approved for GA. Kimikel (talk) 03:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

  @PCN02WPS I just got the go-ahead to close this one out. Looked through the article once again and everything seemed good. Thank you for your quick response and quality work. I'm going to pass this one now. Kimikel (talk) 14:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Well-written

Nothing on a copyvio check.

Lead

• "gained it" > gained the school
• "There, he worked to distance..." > this sentence uses a "triple and", i would break it up however you see fit
• "broadly favored" > which was broadly favored
• "G.I. Bill as" > G.I. Bill, as
• "resigned the presidency" > resigned from the presidency
  • All done except the last point. I think "resigned the presidency" is standard wording ("Therefore, I shall resign the Presidency effective at noon tomorrow.") so I'd prefer to keep that. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Career

• Is there anywhere you can link to endnote 6?
• "it was not a drastic one" > I feel like this qualifier is kind of unnecessary; a reader can decide if a 20/30% decrease is drastic or not.
• "getting back on track with" > realigning with
• "effect—complete with 180 signatures—with" > replace tacks with commas
• "But this shift" > However, this shift
• "consequences:" > consequences, as
• "By the end of his term in 1958, the school's enrollment had doubled, ultimately reaching 1,400 students" > it was 1,400 as of the time of his death, not by the end of his term. this sentence implies that it was 1,400 by the end of his term, i would reword this.
  • All done except "however"; since that is a word to watch, I'd prefer to keep "but". PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Personal life and death

• Can [40] and [42] be archived? Neither are accessible
  • Archival won't particularly help there, as both sources are paywalled (or require a user to log-in). FN 40 already had the correct |url-access=subscription parameter but I've added it to FN 42 as well. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
• "remarried Nancy" > married Nancy
  • Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Broad

• [5] brings up a Charles J Turck Scholarship Fund, probably worth mentioning somewhere
  • Added mention of that and a similar scholarship at Macalester. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Neutral

• Article is neutral.

Stable

• Article is stable.

Illustrated

• Two photos are own work, one is public domain. Serve to illustrate article.