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Draft review and c/e help

At my t/p, I had received help request from User:DPHMSmith to help out in the article draft Manisha Juthani. Requesting visit to review the draft and c/e if the topic interests you. Bookku (talk) 10:15, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Future-class

See also: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States/Archive 15 § Project-independent quality assessments 2

Hello project members! Note that per WP:PIQA, all the class ratings are being harmonised across different WikiProjects so we would need to remove any non-standard classes like Future-class from your project banner. Would you like to keep track of future events in a different way, perhaps by using a parameter |future=yes which would then populate a category. Alternatively it could just be removed and then the articles in Category:Future-Class United States articles would inherit the quality rating from other projects on the talk page — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:17, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Does anyone know where it was decided that Future-class was non-standard? I've seen this used for a very long time. Also, WP US is a huge project, and therefore I wouldn't expect a fast rollout of such a change. Last, I can't know in advance if there will be any buy-in issues or not, but that possibility is there. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 01:20, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi Stefen, there is no "fast rollout" happening. The project was first consulted in February 2023 and then informed of the results of the RfC in April 2023. We are just now starting to implement the decision. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:41, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I meant that you can't expect a fast technical rollout from here out because it's not like flipping a switch on this mammoth project. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 03:58, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

The technical change is straightforward - I can make this change later today unless there are any questions? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:43, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't see how it's straightforward, because this will involve internal changes to projects that use and sometimes in verbiage refer to that class. Altering a mass of templates is just the beginning. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 17:37, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Well I was talking about the technical change, because that was what you mentioned. Sure, there may be a few other things to adjust but there are only 53 articles using this class so it's not like it's going to be a major change — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:00, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

History of the United States articles

I'm looking at the history of the United States articles, and I wanted to bring up the cutoff dates. Currently, the series is:

• History of the United States (1776–1789) - 13 years: American Revolution and Confederation Period
• History of the United States (1789–1849) - 60 years: Federalist Era, Jeffersonian Era, Era of Good Feelings, and Jacksonian Era
• History of the United States (1849–1865) - 16 years: Build up to the Civil War and the American Civil War
• History of the United States (1865–1917) - 52 years: Reconstruction Era, Gilded Age, Progressive Era
• History of the United States (1917–1945) - 28 years: United States in World War I, Roaring Twenties, Great Depression in the United States, and U.S. in World War II
• History of the United States (1945–1964) - 19 years: Post-War Era and Civil Rights Era
• History of the United States (1964–1980) - 16 years: Civil Rights Era and Vietnam War
• History of the United States (1980–1991) - 11 years: Reagan Era
• History of the United States (1991–2008) - 17 years: Post-Cold War Era
• History of the United States (2008–present) - 15+ years

1776-1789 makes sense as the history of the United States prior to the ratification of the constitution; I'm the primary author of that one, and I didn't have any issues putting it together given these solid boundaries. But some of the others seem arbitrary. And of course there's also the fact that two of them are much longer than the others. It seems that most of the cutoff dates were decided on a whim by a sockpuppet in 2003, and it might be worth reexamining them. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:36, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

FWIW the library of congress uses these divisions:

• Colonial Settlement, 1600s - 1763 (our Colonial history of the United States)
• The American Revolution, 1763 - 1783 (Shifted a few years earlier than our equivalent)
• The New Nation, 1783 - 1815 (splitting after the war of 1812, unlike ours)
• National Expansion and Reform, 1815 - 1880 (at the end overlaps with civil war below and the material inside also seems aimed at being pre-civil war, so would take civil war as the end point here rather than 1880)
• Civil War and Reconstruction, 1861-1877 (they link the civil war with reconstruction, whereas we link the civil war with its buildup)
• Rise of Industrial America, 1876-1900 (civil war to WWII divisions don't correlate with ours, presumably as we use WWI as a divider)
• Progressive Era to New Era, 1900-1929
• Great Depression and World War II, 1929-1945
• The Post War United States, 1945-1968 (similar to our immediately post-WWII article)

CMD (talk) 02:02, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@CMD @Thebiguglyalien - I Propose the following changes to the History of the United States article series

Change History of the United States (1991–2008) to History of the United States (1991–2010) - 10 years

Change History of the United States (2008–present) to History of the United States (2011–Present) - 12+ years

-- PaulGamerBoy360 (talk) 2:58, 2 Nov 2023 (UTC)

RfC related to this WikiProject

There is an ongoing RfC to determine whether the United States qualifies as a belligerent in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war. You can participate in the discussion here: Talk:2023 Israel–Hamas war#RfC - Infobox Belligerents (Adding). The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:09, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Postal Service Reform Act on Louis DeJoy's article

Hello! My name is Jonathan and I work for the United States Postal Service. Over on postmaster general Louis DeJoy's Talk page, I'm asking editors to consider revising a sentence about Mr. DeJoy's role in getting the Postal Service Reform Act of 2022 passed. I won't get too deep into the details here, but the article currently characterizes Mr. DeJoy's involvement in a way that's slightly inaccurate, and isn't reflected in the majority of press coverage I've seen. Please see my Talk page post by following this link. Thanks in advance to anybody who takes a look! Jonathan with U.S. Postal Service (talk) 21:44, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Merge proposal

There is a merge proposal to merge The United States and the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars into History of the United States (1789–1849). The discussion is in a deadlock due to lack of input. The writer of the first article opposes the merge while I, as proposer, support the merge. More input is needed and appreciated. The Banner talk 22:40, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

United States involvement in regime change in Latin America has an RFC

United States involvement in regime change in Latin America has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. WMrapids (talk) 18:35, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Progressivity in United States income tax

I started this discussion: Talk:Progressivity in United States income tax#Various polls by media organizations. George Ho (talk) 05:09, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

2023 in the United States collage submissions and discussion started

I have begun the submission and basic discussion process for the collage image for 2023 in the United States, which relates to this WikiProject. You can participate in the submissions/discussions here: Talk:2023 in the United States#Collage submissions. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 07:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

7 World Trade Center featured article review

I have nominated 7 World Trade Center for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:14, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

The real events that inspired the movie The Sugarland Express

I just watched this last night, and was surprised to discover that not only was this based on real events and a couple did lead half the lawmen in Texas on slow-motion chase across a good portion of the state in 1969, but also somehow there is no article on those real events. There must have been significant coverage of it at the time, seeing as Steven Spielberg chose those events as the inspiration for his directorial debut, but I do realize contemporary coverage may not be online. There is an article on the state trooper the couple kidnapped at James Kenneth Crone. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:37, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Johnny Beecher (ice hockey)#Requested move 25 October 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Johnny Beecher (ice hockey)#Requested move 25 October 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. estar8806 (talk) ★ 03:09, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

The Final Four (Survivor: Borneo) nominated for deletion

Link: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Final Four (Survivor: Borneo). George Ho (talk) 07:52, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

MoS discussion on terms like "Caucasian American"

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Putting an end to using "Caucasian" for white Americans  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  16:43, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Shaylee Mansfield

I have nominated Shaylee Mansfield for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Proposed merger at Talk:2023 Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis

Editors have proposed merging the article Kidnapping of Hersh Goldberg-Polin into 2023 Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis, which is of interest to this WikiProject.

You are invited join the discussions at Talk:2023 Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis § Proposed merger.—Alalch E. 17:51, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Silicon Slopes article

I'm working on the Wikipedia article for Silicon Slopes, which just so happens to be the area I live and work in. Honestly, the article currently sounds like a business brochure. I have decided to make a couple of changes to the article, and am posting this comment, in case someone wants to discuss the changes I'm making. This is an effort to communicate, as I recognize that many edits on Wikipedia get reversed because no one communicates their intentions. Our (myself and my co-worker) objective today is:

- Clarify the wording "dozens of tech startups" which is a limitation in phrasing. There should be no finite number or limitation to the companies in Utah County that wish to identify as being located within or near Silicon Slopes.

- A few banks are listed in the articles notable mentions sections, presumably as examples of Silicon Slopes companies. These banks in particular have no relation to tech industry startups, therefore I am removing them. The offenders are Zions Bank and Discover Card. Nothing against these companies, but they have nothing to do specifically with new tech company startups based in Silicon Slopes.

– Teaminvise (talk) 05:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Seattle sea lions related article drafting help requested

I'm looking for any help finishing out this draft article on Herschel the sea lion. Herschel and a rotating group of male sealions who wintered at the Ballard locks in Seattle were a National news from 1985 to about 1988ish due to the purported impact on salmon runs though the locks. I've got basic outline bits but I've bogged finding more specifics and rounding out the article.--Kevmin § 16:48, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

i want to become a member

could i be a member of WikiProject United States? Minecraft812 (talk) 19:42, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Alleged Saudi role in the September 11 attacks#Requested move 16 November 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Alleged Saudi role in the September 11 attacks#Requested move 16 November 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Reading Beans (talk) 00:27, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Plymouth, Massachusetts

Plymouth, Massachusetts has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:56, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Super Bowl XLI

Super Bowl XLI has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:46, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Yavapai

Yavapai has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:20, 8 December 2023 (UTC)