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bill website

www.msn.com bill gates site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kolliparaemb (talk • contribs) 03:59, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

No. WillOakland (talk) 09:26, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

What is his nationality?

Is he jewish? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.53.145.190 (talk) 09:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

"Jewish" is not a nationality, it's a religion. Besides, is that important? Growing up with Scottish parentage would generally make one think Presbyterian. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

BWilkins you are my hero for knowing that Jewish is a religion not a race, too many people make that mistake --Gold Man60 Talk 00:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Note 23 incorrect

It incorrectly attributes Gates to saying that, but read the reference, it's the reporter that said that and Gates just agreed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgates456 (talk • contribs) 04:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

You're right, so I removed the sentence. Without Gates making that claim, there's no real motivation for mentioning that he took the course. WillOakland (talk) 06:51, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Wording

"He is ranked consistently one of the world's wealthiest people..." That sounds incredibly awkward to me. Wouldn't "consistently ranked" be clearer English? 86.174.124.26 (talk) 12:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Changed! Now reads "is consistently ranked among the..."Mod mmg (talk) —Preceding EDIT: Why must SineBot do this! Mac>Dell 15:42, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

This article needs to be fixed seriously

First the article basically worships him. It says his IQ is 170(without proof of any sort), it uses biased language(esp. of his tactics), and it sounds like he wrote himself. YVNP (talk) 08:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

The 170 IQ figure is quite specifically justified from sources. Many users have come along before you vaguely claiming that the article is "too favorable," and they have rarely given specifics. Do you have any? Keep in mind that this article is about Gates as a person, not about Microsoft as a company. WillOakland (talk) 08:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Education

The article mentions that he entered Harvard but doesn't say that he left before finishing a degree. I think it's important to include that point. Excluding it leaves the impression that he graduated from Harvard. He has done great things in his life, but that's not one of them. I suggest that the last sentence in the Early Life section be changed to something like: "His parents supported his decision to leave Harvard before completing a degree after seeing how much Gates wanted to start a company" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.25.173.50 (talk) 02:17, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated. WillOakland (talk) 21:01, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Note for discussion: Didn't Bill return to Harvard to regraduate shortly before leaving Microsoft as it was mentioned in an exclusive documentary about Bill Gates.

KBE

Most people of Category:Honorary Knights Commander of the Order of the British Empire have "KBE" right after their names. Why don't add it here as well? Netrat (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

See the section titled 'Honorary knighthood, "sir", and other irrelevant trappings of British aristocracy' near the top of this page for an explanation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.60.139.89 (talk) 07:18, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

It's in the other articles because the other articles are wrong. WillOakland (talk) 18:33, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Add "declared at the TED Conference that his top priority was achieving Zero emission." (350.org) ?

Add Bill Gates declared at the TED Conference that his top priority was achieving zero global emissions. (350.org) 350.org ? 99.24.249.64 (talk) 03:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Why is this relevant? It certainly wasn't revelvant where you added it at 350.org. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 14:28, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

SAT-IQ Equivalency?

There is no peer-reviewed, APA-validated correlation between IQ and SAT scores. Furthermore, the citation provided in the article directs to a private site that discounts its own conclusions and has no professional affiliations (in fact, for reasons I specify at Talk:Ronald_K._Hoeflin, intelligence assessments by unlicensed people are, at best, invalid). Removing reference. BordenRhodes (talk) 10:11, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Bill Gates is no longer the richest

See http://edition.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/03/10/forbes.list/index.html and http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8560731.stm. --82.31.164.172 (talk) 09:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Add bgC3 attempting to address Climate change/Global warming toward a Low-carbon economy ... see also Portal:Energy & Portal:Sustainable development

At this year’s TED Conference, Bill spoke publicly for the first time about his belief that addressing climate change will require massive investments in innovation aimed at creating the “energy miracles” needed to develop zero-carbon energy sources. per http://www.thegatesnotes.com/Learning/article.aspx?ID=115 [1] 99.155.150.95 (talk) 06:27, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Now plausible, but still a lot of WP:PEACOCK. The actual speech did seem to revolve more on population control, though. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 06:33, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Which "speech"? 99.39.184.54 (talk) 16:23, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Children

It just says he has three kids, but doesnt say who they are. I believe their names are: Phoebe Adele Gates (born in 2002), Rory John Gates (born in 1999), and Jennifer Katharine Gates (born in 1996). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.27.36.231 (talk) 02:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Only get rich with good luck

Ferdinand Lundberg said in "The Rich and the Super-Rich" (1968) "Nobody, first of all, would be rich if he had not been favored by circumstances. Favoring general circumstances in the United States have been: a naturally rich virgin continent, an enlarging widely skilled population, a basic law designed to facilitate private property under earlier purely agrarian-mercantile circumstances, an expanding technology that took multiplied advantages of agrarian-mercantile law and a plethora of purchasable officials!..." No one would be rich still today if s/he had not been favored by circumstances. "Virgin" is something not yet touched, used or exploited (like land/property). Stars4change (talk) 05:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Add Gates Notes with Vaclav Smil [2] "Bill Gates Discusses Energy with Vaclav Smil"

Add Gates Notes with Vaclav Smil: "Important Books About Energy by Vaclav Smil" and "Bill Gates Discusses Energy with Vaclav Smil". 99.27.174.13 (talk) 23:36, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

You think that the fact that Bill Gates has mentioned Smil twice is important enough to mention in an article about Gates? Somehow, I think not. Phiwum (talk) 02:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

INCORRECT ENTRY IN WIKI OF BILL GATES

is INCORRECTLY written that Microsoft sold PC-DOS for $50,000 to IBM. Microsoft purchased PC-DOS for 50,000. This is a very important fact that has been wrongly written in the wiki of Bill Gates.

References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS here the price given is $75,000, in either case Microsoft did not accept a one time payment of $50,000 from IBM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft no price is mentioned, but states that Microsoft purchased DOS and later sold it to IBM, that purchase price which Microsoft paid is either 50,000 or 75,000, it is not what Microsoft was paid by IBM, rather is what Microsoft paid to purchase DOS.

Kartik Vashishta 22:48, 17 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kartikswiki (talk • contribs)

Add Gates Rethinks His War on Polio?

Add Gates Rethinks His War on Polio? 99.60.127.212 (talk) 01:50, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Broken img of Bill & Melinda

It's working fine on Melinda's page and the German page of Bill Gates. BROKEN. SOMEONE FIX IT. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bill_og_Melinda_Gates_2009-06-03_%28bilde_01%29.JPG —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) 05:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Add Seed (magazine) article reagarding current Climate change\global Warming and Nuclear technology?

Add "With two power-players —Bill Gates and Barack Obama— placing their bets on nuclear energy, another round of debate begins over its place in a carbon-free future.", reagarding current Climate change\global Warming? 99.190.90.14 (talk) 05:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect Date of Marriage for Bill and Melinda

On the right panel at the top of the page, it states that he was married in 1964, in the article, it later states he was married in 1994. The latter is obviously correct because otherwise he would have been married at age 9. Someone fix please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jafloogan (talk • contribs) 17:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

It also states 1994 on Melinda's page. (comment added by Xhalt) —Preceding undated comment added 13:33, 20 May 2010 (UTC).

Add connection to Climate change mitigation, such as with Nathan Myhrvold (former M$ CTO), for example as seen on Charlie Rose (talk show)?

Add connection to Climate change mitigation, such as with Nathan Myhrvold (former M$ CTO), for example as seen on Charlie Rose (talk show)? 99.155.144.67 (talk) 04:55, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Bill Gates' KBE

Why isn't Bill Gates' KBE listed in his name. 1
Thanks --George2001hi (talk) 16:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Long story short, he's not British (see "FAQs" at the top of this page: "According to the Manual of Style, post-nominals should be omitted unless the article subject is closely associated with the issuing country"). It is, however, noted in the article (in the Recognition section). --Jatkins ^{(talk - contribs)} 20:48, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

My understanding of this is that if he was British he would be Sir William Gates but as he is not British (or indeed a member of the Commonwealth) he would be Bill Gates KBE Spudbynight (talk) 06:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Here is a source to substantiate http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/3428673.stm Spudbynight (talk) 06:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Xbox 0

How was this person capable of creating the Red Rings of Death on the Xbox 0? (See here) 71.94.158.203 (talk) 04:50, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to this article, not a forum for discussing the Xbox. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:31, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Add Cloud reflectivity modification study funding, per USA Today http://www.usatoday.com/weather/research/2010-06-10-cloud-whitening_N.htm

Add Cloud reflectivity modification study funding, per USA Today http://www.usatoday.com/weather/research/2010-06-10-cloud-whitening_N.htm 11.June.2010 page 2A. $4.5 million, $300,000 grant thru Ken Caldeira. 99.35.8.151 (talk) 02:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Add link to "American Energy Innovation Council" (see Energy in the United States) ...

Add link to "American Energy Innovation Council" (see Energy in the United States) ... 99.54.139.220 (talk) 03:03, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Add connection to Intellectual Ventures per Z Magazine June 2010 and Geoengineering?

Add connection to Intellectual Ventures per Z Magazine June 2010 and Geoengineering? 99.29.184.9 (talk) 03:07, 8 Jun

Why? See Talk:Geoengineering#Add Bill Gates connection to geoengineering projects with Intellectual Ventures per Z Magazine June 2010. See Talk:Bill Gates?. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:09, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Per Eli Kintisch's 2010 book "Hack the Planet: Science's Best Hope, or Worst Nightmare, for Averting Climate Catastrophe" (ISBN 978-0470524268) Notes section (p247) "When an individual has 'said' or 'says' something in the text, it indicates that the author was present when the person said it, unless an endnote indicates otherwise"; from page 8: Ken Caldeira and David Keith (scientist) managed a $1.5 million fund provided annually by Bill Gates to study geoengineering, and starting on page 177 Kintisch goes on to describe the Gates Foundation money and personnel connections, including the comment "(The tacit understanding was that scientists were not to mention his {Gates} name)". "{}" were added by me for clarification. On page 187 it states Gates was an investor in Intellectual Ventures, and Gates is listed as a geoengineering patent-holder with Stephen Salter. 99.190.89.188 (talk) 17:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

disambiguation to William A. Henry III

Maybe, add disambiguation to William A. Henry III? AndreyPutilov (talk) 21:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Their names are not very similar, containing different surnames and middle names. I would think it would be hard to confuse the two, and have removed the "not to be confused with" tag on W.A. Henry III's page. Airplaneman ✈ 22:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

The History of Computing Project source

As per a previous FARC on Microsoft this source was essentially deemed unreliable. I went through and removed all references on Microsoft to it; as this is a BLP it should probably do the same. RN 08:23, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

What's a "FARC"? 209.255.78.138 (talk) 17:24, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

"Featured Article Review Candidate" I think. Airplaneman ✈ 22:27, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Yep. The problem is that it is basically a glorified wiki - not only that but a glorified wiki that doesn't cite its sources and even states that most of its information is from Microsoft itself. Indeed, when I replaced it I found conflicts with more reliable sources. Keep in mind that those edits with it were from YEARS ago when standards were vastly different on wikipedia. Ryan Norton 23:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Criticism

Gates's philanthropy should certainly not be a subsection of "Criticism". Could someone please fix this? City.Of.Beltaine (talk) 06:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the heading "philanthropy" as a subsection of "Criticism" deals with the criticism of his philanthropy (it's sad that people criticize someone giving their earnings away, but it happens…). Airplaneman ✈ 22:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I think I may have worded this wrong... There are two identical "Criticisms" sections, one of which has the subsection "Philanthropy". This is obviously not needed, so I think the first "Criticism" section ought to be deleted, and "Philanthropy" made into its own section.—Preceding unsigned comment added by City.Of.Beltaine (talk • contribs)

Problematic edits reverted as vandalism. Thanks for spotting this. And don't forget to sign your comments ;) Airplaneman ✈ 02:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

By the way, isn't he retired? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.18.221.219 (talk) 21:25, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Dunno. Is he? Airplaneman ✈ 22:01, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Agnostic?

The citation for his religion being agnostic doesn't specify his religion anywhere. He calls religion an "inefficient use of time" and talks about choosing a religion for his kids, but never says he is agnostic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.89.189.114 (talk) 02:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, it doesn't back it up. It does say "Even though I not religious" on a different page [3], but that is kind of general; I've put it back in though with a recent source, but even this one says "recent statements indicates he's an agnostic"[4], so it's still shaky. Ryan Norton 05:27, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Even the new source attributes the info on some unnamed source. So, instead of having info based on fuzzy reporting, I think it is better to take it off.--Civilizededucation^talk 15:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Corbis

This article lacks reference to Corbis, another enterprise owned by Mr. Gates. Could someone add it? Thanks, Tico! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.108.234.163 (talk) 13:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request

Note: The anon who made this request is pointing discussion of his edits, similar to the one he requested here, to this section. I think WP:BLPN#The Giving Pledge is an appropriate place, and this is not. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 13:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

{{edit-semiprotected}} Please add the following to Bill Gates#Philanthropy, at the end of the first paragraph, immediately following the sentence that ends"...were the second most generous philanthropists in America, having given over $28 billion to charity":

Gates and his wife are among those who have made The Giving Pledge.<ref>{{cite web| url= http://givingpledge.org/#enter | title= The Giving Pledge| accessdate=2010-08-08}}</ref>

Thank you. 67.101.5.165 (talk) 10:45, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Opposed, for the moment. Gates is listed as helping to found the organization, so its statements might be acceptable as to him, but it's not obvious that there is a reliable source. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 11:30, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I see you got here before I suggested you go her on my talk page. I'll re-iterate for others what I said earlier. The reference I'm citing is the official website for The Giving Pledge. On their website is a 55-page PDF consisting of a series of letters from those who made the pledge that they've done so. There are a lot of bad refs in wikipedia if Arthur Rubin thinks this is a case of an unreliable source. If Arthur Rubin really thinks I'm breaking a rule here, perhaps we can fall back on WP:IAR... Thanks. 67.101.5.165 (talk) 11:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

This link would be a better reference if the edit is eventually made. - Talk to you later, Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 11:50, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Done I have added a sentence about The Giving Pledge to the philanthropy section. - Talk to you later, Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 11:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

(ec) WP:BLP is, I'm afraid, not subject to WP:IAR. I've wanted to add true material about other people, but could not, because we did not have a reliable source. The Giving Pledge does not qualify as a reliable source under any of our criteria. Any of the articles used as a reference in our article on The Giving Pledge seems to be, and most of them could be used to support the edit here, as long as http://givingpledge.org is not used as a reference. For Gates and Buffet only, it is clearly notable, as they seem to have founded the organization. For any of the others, notability would also have to be established. (I haven't seen a source for "his wife" other than http://givingpledge.org, so that may not be usable.) The following phrasing may be acceptable, although we'd need to find the appropriate parameters for the citation.

• Gates has made The Giving Pledge to donate over half of his wealth to charity.<ref>{{cite news| url= http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38556042/ns/us_news-giving/ | title= 40 billionaires pledge to give away half of wealth| work=???|accessdate=2010-08-08}}</ref>

— Arthur Rubin (talk) 11:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I mentioned WP:IAR in I guess a failed attempt to make you more comfortable with the fact that my changes are not violating BLP policy. I still can't believe you aren't swayed by the fact that The Giving Pledge is a legitimate LLC with a PDF (http://givingpledge.org/Content/media/AugustPledgeLetters.pdf) of letters from those who have made the pledge. Please stop reverting my work. Thanks. 67.101.5.165 (talk) 12:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

It being a "legitimate LLC" has nothing to do with reliability. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 12:25, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

(popping out from the indentation)

I look forward to someone else supporting your assessment that the official website for The Giving Pledge is not a reliable source. For future use I'll switch to http://givingpledge.org/Content/media/AugustPledgeLetters.pdf which is the PDF for the letters themselves, but clearly that compromise is not acceptable to you. So for now, I am reverting my work to its original state, and will use the PDF for future edits unless I see your opinion about reliability supported by the community. Thanks. 67.101.5.165 (talk) 12:40, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

It's still a clear BLP violation on your part, for most of the pledgers. What would be marginally acceptable is if you would tag all the references with {{vc}}. It would still be a BLP violation, but letting it stay for a few hours, under those circumstances, is probably acceptable. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 12:46, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Clear to you I guess. Looking forward to evidence from other editors that my good-faith edits warrant the repeated reversion you are willing to apply to them. 67.101.5.165 (talk) 13:06, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Looks like there are plenty of secondary sources. Why don't you try using them. Just click

here to see some of them.--Civilizededucation^talk 17:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

(separate edit request:) Note 65 links to a page no longer available. a new link is needed, if one can be found. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Insomnia2 (talk • contribs) 04:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

ECONOMIC RESTRUCTURE

Hi this is another business icon which you have been his mentor all these while. I am in for your recruitment as to how to manage and set up proper economic balances linking to an upgraded software. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.215.160.133 (talk) 14:38, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Car collection.

This should be here, he has a really good car collection and is a fine judge of technical values. --Anonymous 220.245.128.9 (talk) 13:25, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Bill Gates in my own words=

• Bill Gates in my own words, Family - He married with Melinda French, the former Microsoft Product Manager on January 1, 1994 in Hawaii. First child, Jennifer Katherine, was born on April 26, 1996 and a son, Rory John Gates, was born on May 23, 1999. A third child, Phoebe Adele Gates was born in 2002. Bill's mother, Mary died in 1994 couple month after the wedding. His father, Bill Gates Junior re-married Mimi Gardner, the director of the Seattle Art Museum. All of them including his 2 sisters and their family live around Seattle.' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.139.27 (talk) 11:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Post Microsoft

Bill Gates did not just visit MIT in April 2010 he visited 5 colleges (UC Berkeley, Stanford, University of Chicago, Harvard, and MIT) as part of a college tour.

http://www.thegatesnotes.com/Thinking/article.aspx?ID=128&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

128.135.78.129 (talk) 16:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Formatting

Gates IIIKBE

A space required here. --193.6.222.47 (talk) 13:58, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad Spudbynight (talk) 08:31, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 75.149.53.22, 1 November 2010

"Gates began to realize the expectations others had of him when public opinion mounted that he could give more of his wealth to charity."

I dont think this is the right way to start this chapter - seems opinionated {{edit semi-protected}} Bill is also the chairman of board of Corbis and it should be added to his roles.

75.149.53.22 (talk) 07:14, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

where exactly in the article it should be also mentioned? I added it to the info box now. Petrb (talk) 08:51, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

IBM and DOS copyright

Is there any verifiable historical citation for this statement?

"Gates did not offer to transfer the copyright on the operating system, because he believed that other hardware vendors would clone IBM's system" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Viralmeme (talk • contribs) 13:33, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the source that is cited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.217.162 (talk) 07:27, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Upper Middle Class?

Shouldn't we just say upper class? Upper Middle class is what upper class families say when they don't want to sound elitist or too rich. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.81.190.71 (talk) 01:12, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree, the phrase is subjective and the parents' backgrounds speak for themselves. Somewhat related to this, Gates' personal interest in Microsoft is down from 8% to 7%, based on recent Form 4 filings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.217.162 (talk) 07:29, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

No, there are three classes in the USA: working class (lower class), middle class and upper class. Bill Gates comes from a middle class family. Now he is upper class. Upper class are extremely rich people (billionaires) or old families with vitamine c (connections). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.22.237.224 (talk) 08:30, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Gates was definitely raised upper middle class---he attended an exclusive private college prep school and was the son of a regionally prominent attorney whose law firm is now one of the largest in the world (K&L Gates). Most middle class people can't afford to send their kids to college prep schools (unless their kids can get scholarships) and don't start international law firms or serve on the boards of major nonprofits. --Coolcaesar (talk) 11:24, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Add IMDB reference to Bill Gates's article

How come there is not a IMDB link for Mr. Gates? Below is the correct code.

• Bill Gates/Archive 6 at IMDb

Bregel (talk) 23:23, 14 January 2011 (UTC)bregel

Where's the vaccine quote?

Bill Gates rather recently gave a statement about vaccines that has been interpreted by many that he acknowledges they cause numerous deaths, which he approves of. Should this not be discussed here? __meco (talk) 19:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

KBE

I know this has been discussed numerous times, but I would like to provide my feedback.

According to the FAQ "No. According to the Manual of Style, post-nominals should be omitted unless the article subject is closely associated with the issuing country. Gates's honorary knighthood is mentioned along with honors from several other countries in the "Recognition" section."

When I refer to the Manual of Style, the is what is written "... Therefore, as with regular titles, the honorific title should be included in the initial reference and infobox heading for the person, but is strictly optional upon subsequent references ..."

I referenced other similar non-uk business recipients - Akio Morita and Henri Deterding and their honorary knighthood are included in the initial reference of their article. Shouldn't we be consistent and standardize the KBE naming convention? ♠♠ BanëJ ♠ ♠ 17:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

As you note, this comes up every six months or so - hence a FAQ. The section of the MOS you're looking for is the section on post nominals. "included when they are issued by a country or widely recognizable organization with which the subject has been closely associated. Honors issued by other entities may be mentioned in the article, but generally should be omitted from the lead." If you feel that Mr. Gates is "closely associated" with the UK, more so than any other country his business or charities impact, then let's discuss. I am not familiar with the other articles you mention; may be a good idea to start a discussion there. Kuru (talk) 17:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Photo

Sorry, I don't really know the right way to get this comment to the page editors. Why, with all the pictures of Gates available post this mug shot, taken after a getting a speeding ticket. Speeding tickets are common, thousands of people get one in their life. I think the only reason it is here, is to show disrespect to Mr. Gates. The rest of the article has sparse info about Gates, and carries a condescending tone. The internet is full of attack articles on Gates, why is Wicky allowing yellow journalism. Our government is full of people with worse law violations. It is a shame for such brief info on Gates, prominently displays his 1 mug shot, for a minor violation. It shows anger, envy, or a nrgative agenda by the editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.148.117.207 (talk) 17:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

There is no condescension apparent to me in the section mentioning the mugshot; it notes that he holds a modified version of the photo in a commercial he appears in.  Frank  |  talk  17:26, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I've added a section about Gates's traffic violations and moved the photo into that section. Bulldog73 (talk) 21:07, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

With due respect, what on earth for? I can't imagine any argument that this is appropriate fodder for an encyclopedia article. Phiwum (talk) 03:52, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. I agree it's not appropiate for the article. But I need to add information for something. Bulldog73 (talk) 21:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit Request: Knighthood

Doesn't Bill Gates have a Knighthood? Shouldn't it be Sir William Henry Gates? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osieorb18 (talk • contribs) 15:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

See the section right above this; or the FAQ listed above. Kuru (talk) 16:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• He is not a citizen of a country which has The Queen as head-of-state and therefore his KBE is honorary and so he is not entitled to use the title 'Sir'. He is, however, allowed to use the postnominals, the subject of which is continuously debated as per usage on Wiki. --Charlie Huang 【遯卋山人】 20:18, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

URL

The URL in his photo information box, doesn't work anymore —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qworty Ytrewq (talk • contribs) 15:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Violation of law

The section about Gates speeding and violating the law sounds to me like something for a glossy, not an encyclopedia. Supertanno (talk) 12:56, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I know that. Bulldog73 (talk) 21:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

"glossy"? You're speaking to an international audience, FFS. Dr. WTF (talk) 14:46, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Where can we incorporate this into the article?

Bill's favorite vacation place he visits each year is a small town of Skradin , Croatia.He nemaed it his favorite vacation spot in Forbes magazine.Here's the link.http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/01/billionaire-summer-vacations-business-billionaires-vacations.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.129.112.165 (talk) 11:13, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Filmography

He was in this TV documentary too:

Triumph of the nerds (1996)

which by the way is very nice viewing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Findus1 (talk • contribs) 21:23, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Reckless driving / prison?

Why is there no section on his reckless driving (Porsche/jail time)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.88.106 (talk) 00:31, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Because we haven't found any reliable secondary sources discussing his traffic citation(s). If you can find one, go ahead. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

"to buy an teletype"

I thought this page was written by English speakers... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.138.199 (talk) 12:41, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Knighthood

Should the first mention of his name include his title? I'm aware that it is only an honourary knighthood but he is still entitled to use the letters after his name. For example the Ben Kingsley article includes his CBE in the first reference to his name. I'd make the change but I'm not sure what the appropriate wiki policy is on this type of thing. Robinr22 (talk) 21:36, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Mr. Kingsley is British; the guidelines for this and the reason for the absence is covered in the FAQ link above, which links to the appropriate guidelines. Thanks for asking before making the change! Kuru (talk) 22:00, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

My apologies for not reading the FAQ first! I should have guessed that someone would have thought of this before... Thanks for the help Robinr22 (talk) 23:51, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Totally not a problem; there are very, very few articles with a FAQ, so it's hardly the first thing you look for!  :) Kuru (talk) 01:15, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

No mention of Gates's relationship with Jobs

There's no mention of Bill Gates's friendship and rivalry with Steve Jobs. In fact, the word "Apple" only appears once on this whole page. Isn't this a glaring omission? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.118.4.1 (talk) 11:53, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

If I have anything to say in this, I'd say it is irrelevant.178.191.58.61 (talk) 14:07, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

The fact is you're saying nothing. Care to back up your point? The two were mutually significant to each other's life and career. Therefore I'd say it's completely relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.211.1.33 (talk) 00:40, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Why it seems as though because of Jobs's death that you suddenly become interested in Gates's article. The fact that there was no mention about the relationship of Jobs and Gates in this article before Jobs's death AND the fact that it is a good article until now makes me think there are some reasons why it simply isn't mentioned.178.190.45.20 (talk) 12:48, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Indian Institute of Technology Golden Jubile celebration speech in San Jose

The IIT bit is completely out of place. The entire sentence is dedicated to honorary degrees but someone decided to add that Bill Gates delivered a speech to IIT alumni/alumnae in San Jose. What has this got to do with honorary degrees? Bill Gates never got a degree from IIT. The IIT bit should be removed because Bill Gates gives a gazillion speeches all over the world and every little thing like that should not be on the Wikipedia. --70.76.68.118 (talk) 07:35, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Totally agree. Wonder why admins don't do anything about it. Bill Gates does not have an honorary degree from IIT.--70.64.86.187 (talk) 05:58, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

bill gates died

did wiki say that bill gates died oct. 10 and they just removed it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zegrin (talk • contribs) 23:12, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

As far as I know, that date of death was probably vandalism. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:49, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Please remove porn link

Can someone with an account please remove the link in the References section that points to a porn site?

The offending link is to "Bralyn", a site which no longer appears to exist.

71.163.75.222 (talk) 16:00, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

If it doesn't exist how do you know its a porn link?--Harizotoh9 (talk) 16:32, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Because a porn site scooped up the abandoned domain name. I found another site with the memo; I'll fix it now. Indeed123 (talk) 19:24, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Guest appearance of Bill Gates in Frasier episode

Bill Gates appeared in [Season 9, Episode 200], as a guest of honour for Frasier's 200th episode, where he ended up taking several calls about Microsoft products.

--Frannie44 (talk) 10:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

In deep of protectly configur's some other's so seen targits--182.178.187.76 (talk) 10:38, 27 January 2012 (UTC)sts

Edit request on 25 March 2012

His official style is, Bill Gates KBE (not sir though as he isn't a British citizen)

82.46.88.55 (talk) 12:55, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

If you can provide a source showing that this is now the "official style" he uses, then we should discuss the change. The FAQ linked above covers this topic (it's come up many times). Kuru (talk) 14:09, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 June 2012

Bill Gates contact details: 196.21.43.15 (talk) 11:17, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

(personal information removed by 24.22.217.162 (talk))

Disputed or Inaccurate Facts about Steve Ballmer in the Currier House photo caption

Photography of The Poker Room in Currier House at Harvard University

181.132.124.174 (talk) 14:15, 18 April 2012 (UTC)The text under the photo must be corrected, Instead of Steve Ballmer the co-founder is Paul Allen, if I'm not wrong. Nevertheless in the summary of the image the description is right, with Paul Allen as founder. You are not wrong, i will hope too somebody is able to correct this.89.144.206.240 (talk) 18:01, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Caption of Currier House picture seems off

The caption for the Currier House picture seems inconsistent with the articles for Currier House, Steve Ballmer, and Microsoft. It states that in that room, Gates and Ballmer "formed Microsoft," but in the Microsoft article, it's noted that Gates and Paul Allen formed Microsoft in 1975, 5 years before Ballmer was invited to join the company. Also, Ballmer's article notes that he was hired for "a salary of $50,000 as well as a percentage of ownership of the company," which strongly implies that the company already existed (and, in fact had about 30 employees at the time), thereby preventing Ballmer from "forming" it.

If my understanding of the above is correct, then the caption should be altered to reflect that Gates and Ballmer were somehow furthering the company (which seems entirely likely, given the facts), rather than "forming" it. Edit: I didn't realize that I wasn't signed-in when I wrote the above. Dmutters (talk) 00:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Atari Fired Bill Gates!

Can it be true?

--ZaferXYZ (talk) 15:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Gates wasn't Atari's employee to "fire" at that time. He was an employee of Microsoft. Atari licensed BASIC from Microsoft and then terminated the license when it could not be adapted to their needs. So no, it isn't true. 24.22.217.162 (talk) 00:36, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Phrase "the second-most generous philanthropists in America" has bias or POV problems

The sentence that says refers to Mr. and Mrs. Gates as "the second-most generous philanthropists in America" should instead state simply the fact that they gave the second largest amount of money, or whatever the writer meant by "the second-most generous philanthropists in America".

The phrase "second-most generous" implies that those who gave less are necessarily less generous, which may not be correct. For example, those who have given everything they owned, and have no more to give, should not be considered less generous, merely because they did not have as much as Mr. and Mrs. Gates have given. "Generosity" is a personality trait, and cannot be measured quantitatively. Even to the extent that it can be quantified, it should be measured as a percentage. For example, a person who has $10,000, and gives $9900, has given 99%, which exceeds the percentage of net worth given by Mr. and Mrs. Gates.

They are generous, but not the second-most generous in the country, just the most able to act on their generosity.

As there are different ways to attempt to quantify generosity (percentage of income, percentage of net worth, total dollar amount, value of giving one's life, organ donors, etc.), which are further complicated by the question of whether an anonymous donation is more generous than one for which the donor receives public recognition, we should stick to the facts, without attempting any sort of ranking of relative generosity. 71.109.150.13 (talk) 03:03, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Computer programmer is kinda ridiculous in the intro

I doubt he has programmed anything in the last 15 to 20 years and it's not exactly prestigious as opposed to being a business magnate/philanthropist

[previous sentence not signed]

It's also kind of redundant/obvious. Like the time when the Vatican announced which priests were being promoted to Cardinals and gave out copies of their bios (later discovered to have been copied verbatim from Wikipedia), many of which mentioned that they were Catholic.71.109.150.13 (talk) 02:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Software company founders are not necessarily themselves programmers, e.g. Larry Ellison, Scott McNealy. Being a computer programmer might not be "as prestigious" as this or that but it is a fact of his career. 24.22.217.162 (talk) 21:16, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Why Microsoft Moved from Albuquerque to Bellevue

One source says Microsoft moved from Albuquerque to its new home in Bellevue, Washington on January 1, 1979, because "it was often difficult to convince programmers to move to Albuquerque, which was far from major universities and big cities." The source also says that "although most computer companies were located in California, Gate's ties to his family were strong" and that Gates "opted to move Microsoft to Bellevue, Washington, near Seattle". Another source says this: "While examples abound, the first president of the Santa Fe Institute, George Cowan, notes that Albuquerque bankers rejected a ten thousand dollar loan application from a young Bill Gates during the early years of the company that eventually became Microsoft. Gates received an alternative loan from his father contingent on him returning to Seattle." More sources need to be researched to determine the cause of the move from Albuquerque. Brenton J. Willingham (talk) 04:29, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Net worth has grown

according to http://www.forbes.com/profile/bill-gates/ Bill Gates his net worth is now 66 Billion USD.

Sgt frankieboy (talk) 20:17, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

The 1977 mugshot, where it says "Gates Mugshot" or whatever, needs changed to "Gates' Mugshot" with a '. I was going to edit but it was protected.. - Kuzey457 (talk) 22:44, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 December 2012

The Bloomberg Billionaires Index(http://topics.bloomberg.com/bloomberg-billionaires-index/) is a current and important source of information pertaining to Bill Gates. Please add the following to the first paragraph:

He is consistently ranked among the world's wealthiest people[5] and was the wealthiest overall from 1995 to 2009, excluding 2008, when he was ranked third;[6] in 2011 he was the wealthiest American and the second wealthiest person.[7][8] In October 2012, Bill Gates ranked 2nd after Carlos Slim among the world's richest people with a net worth of $63.4

billion according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index. CubanellePep (talk) 18:58, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Having that link in the text would violate our policy on external links, and the information is already covered in the article, albeit mainly from different sources. No reason to duplicate the information.  Already done gwickwire^talk_edits 19:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Please add the current wealth status for December, 2012 (with revised citations):

As of December 2012, According to the Bloomberg Billionares Index Gates is the 2nd richest man in the world with an estimated net worth of 62.2 billion.

Please add this current wealth reference:

As of December 2012, Gates remains one of the wealthiest people in the world with an estimated net worth worth of 62.4 billion.

Gates’ religion: Agnostic?

Guys, I just noticed that it’s stated that Gates has no religion, yet...is he agnostic? How does that make sense? Agnosticism is not a religion, one can only have religion or no religion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.198.118.255 (talk) 14:37, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

agnostic is deemed a religion by some based on the fact tat while not officaly sworn into any curch they are still open to the idea. no religion is generally reserved for people who outrightly refuse the idea of any singular god or pantheon of gods being able to exist.152.91.9.153 (talk) 23:44, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Early life error

In these edits a user modified details in the early life section to say something different from what the cited source says. Could someone please change it back? 98.207.57.82 (talk) 02:18, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Microsoft - the world’s largest personal-computer software company?

I don't see any source confirming this, and i highly doubt it after the failure they had with Windows 8, causing the pc market to drop a lot the first quarter of 2013. Apple has also caught up a lot, it they categorize as a personal-computer software company. I think we should either link to some page that shows that Microsoft really are what this page claims, or the reference should be deleted. (User:petterroea) 10:47, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Antihero

To me this article is severely lacking in references to criticism. Gates, for decades, has been held to be almost akin to an antichrist both amongst the free software movement and the Apple cult. If I get time (unlikely-- feel free to jump in) I might try to do justice to these perspectives. --120.144.160.86 (talk) 08:51, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Please refer to the FAQ at the top of this page regarding what criticisms are relevant in this article. Gates cannot be assumed to be personally behind every step that Microsoft has taken as a business that someone might have criticized. You cannot use blog posts and web forums (or "common knowledge") as sources for the subject you describe. You would have to use reliable sources like Rivlin's The Plot to Get Bill Gates. 2001:558:6045:1D:56E:DCCB:ED9D:24EA (talk) 22:31, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Copyright

Whats about Gary Kildall ( CP/M ) allegations ? He say until he died, that Gates steal the idea and sourcecode. He said: "Ask Bill [Gates] why the string in function 9 ends with a dollar sign. He can not answer. I just know it. " (Similiar story in facebook - History repeated) Very interesting in contrast to the TRIPS -agreement and to his "Early life" (sneak computer time) Suitable to the allegations that micrososft make some products incomplete to push subsidiary company.

OK whatever, fact is that Gary Kildall said, that Gates steal his product. That would surely purely. Gary Kildall is not a nobody.

The journalist Greg Palast assumed Gates, to act unfairly with his foundation. Gates supports u. a the TRIPS-agreement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIPS_Agreement

Kildall did not create the "idea" of an operating system, only his particular realization in CP/M which, by his own admission, borrowed here and there from DEC's minicomputer systems. He never claimed (much less demonstrated) that Gates stole code in any source that I'm aware of. Refer to the articles here about Kildall and 86-DOS, and to their sources. As for Palast, in spite all of his sound and fury, he does not come close to showing that Gates had any personal involvement in the development of TRIPS or has ever said one word about it. Therefore the subject is not relevant in this article about Gates as an individual. 2001:558:6045:1D:56E:DCCB:ED9D:24EA (talk) 22:21, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

citation issue

I don't think citing a movie is specific enough.(see footnote 39)76.218.104.120 (talk) 00:49, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Net Worth Updated?

Forbes as published an updated list on net worth for Bill Gate. I propose this should be used for his net worth as is supersedes the previous data.

http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.88.247 (talk) 14:00, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

additional an honorary doctorate in 06/16/2000

He had received an honorary doctorate "Doctor of Humanities" from Rikkyo University, Tokyo, Japan in June 16th 2000.

Following URL is references for that:

http://www2.rikkyo.ac.jp/~koho/NewsRikkyo/No209/209-1.pdf

http://www.microsoft.com/japan/presspass/BILLGATES/speech/speech14.aspx

http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/310/310146/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.38.61.187 (talk) 14:29, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

edit request

can someone remove the word non non-executive from this article, bill gates is a chairman, not a "non executive" one 83.180.194.147 (talk) 19:59, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Done Thanks, Celestra (talk) 22:27, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

younger picture

File:Dts news bill gates wikipedia.JPG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.165.191.12 (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I have replaced the article's infobox image with this one. – Wdchk (talk) 13:03, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Religion

Most pages of famous people have a section named "religion". Like his wife forexample: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melinda_Gates

Why does Bill have none? Since he is a self-proclaimed atheist I suggest we write "none".

Ps. Sorry for my english.

--90.149.188.205 (talk) 08:46, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 September 2013

117.221.45.82 (talk) 12:02, 14 September 2013 (UTC)DROP LINE WORDS ALMA MATTER SINCE HE NEVER FORMALLY GRADUATED FROM ANY UNIVERSITY.DROP OUTS CAN'T CLAIM WORDS ALMA MATTER SINCE THEY DID NOT RECEIVED FORMAL DEGREE FROM THAT UNIVERSITY. Ho.Degree holders too can't write/use the words Alma Matter.

Sure they can; alma matter simply indicates the university one studied at, it confers no indication of that being the ultimate university one's degree was earned from. Kuru (talk) 12:55, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Agree with Kuru. Dictionary.com, used as a reference for Alma mater, says "a school, college, or university at which one has studied and, usually, from which one has graduated", but it doesn't have to be from which one has graduated. In this article, there is no ambiguity, since the infobox clearly states that he dropped out. – Wdchk (talk) 13:15, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Further, if one is invited to provide the name of somebody's alma mater, it is redundant to provide any further information about the progress of the course. If there were a field in the infobox for 'Degrees obtained' or 'Academic qualifications', one could conclude from the infobox that he did not graduate: in the absence of such, there is no call for any mention of academic results in the infobox. Kevin McE (talk) 17:30, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Is Harvard University Bill Gates' Alma mater?

The info box states that Harvard University is Bill Gates' Alma mater. Everybody knows that Gates dropped out of Harvard after 2 years. Previously, the info box included "dropped out," but this designation was removed, and people who now read the article are led to believe that Gates graduated from Harvard.

I don't understand why "dropped out" was removed from the info box if the designation is correct. As far as I know, you have to graduate from a school or university in order to call it your "Alma mater."

Technically, Harvard is NOT Bill Gates' Alma mater. The information in the info box is false.

Anthony22 (talk) 02:03, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Answered above. 'Edit request on 14 September 2013.' Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 07:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

In popular culture

• In the 2001 film Antitrust, Tim Robbins' character Gary Winstone was considered to be based on Gates and bears more than a passing resemblance to him. In the film, Winstone is the CEO of the fictitious NURV, a world leader in computer software who is later shown to have sinister intentions.

• In the 2013 film Elysium, an attack on the character John Henry Carlyle is monitored from Earth orbit; real time video is accompanied by an infographic that should be famliar to anyone who has read the Bill Gates article:

John Henry Carlyle (born October 13, 2010) is an Elysian business magnate, computer programmer and philanthropist. Carlyle is the former chief executive and current chairman of Armadyne, the world's largest computer software and armaments [?] company. He is consistently ranked among the world's wealthiest people and was the wealthiest toverall from 2045 to 2059, excluding 2058, when he was ranked third. During his career at Armadyne, Carlyle held the positions of CEO and chief software architect, and remains the largest indvidual shareholder with 6.4 percent of the common stock. He has also authored or co-authored several books. Carlyle is one of the best-known entrepreneurs of the personal droid revolution. Carlyle has been criticized for his business tactics, which have been considered anti-competitive, an opinion which has in some cases been upheld by the courts. In the latter stages of his career, Carlyle has pursued a number of philanthropic endeavors, donating large amounts of money to various organizations and scientific research programs through the Carlyle foundation, established in 2109.

Transcribed off-screen in 720p, the dates in particular were hard to read and should not be considered reliable.File:Elysium_screencap_detail.pngPatronanejo (talk) 03:42, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

editrequest

Please add to the top of the succession box area

{{Succession box
 | title  = CEO of [[Microsoft]]
 | years  = 1975-2000
 | before = none
 | after  = [[Steve Ballmer]]
}}
{{Succession box
 | title  = Chairman of [[Microsoft]]
 | years  = 1975-2014
 | before = none
 | after  = [[John W. Thompson]]
}}

-- 70.50.148.248 (talk) 09:32, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done – Wbm1058 (talk) 16:57, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

bgC3 not "new" anymore

Hi. In the "Investments" section, perhaps you should remove the "new" from the comment: "bgC3, a new think-tank company founded by Bill Gates." I mention this since the corresponding article on bgC3 states that it is "a company founded by Microsoft's co-founder, Bill Gates in 2008," which would not make it a "new" company, but rather a now six year-old company. Thank you114.162.170.83 (talk) 16:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

His religion

There seems to be some some new revelation in the news that Bill became a Catholic. Or at least his family attends a Catholic Church and he says that it "makes sense to believe in God." In any case, I'm for removing his references to religion until this gets explained. Thought? [5] [6]

23haveblue (talk) 00:17, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

"Not" pied by James Gosling

"Bill Gates highscores on people who have been pied with totally 5 pies that all were fired in less than two monts in 1998 including one on stage by the father of the Java programming language, James Gosling, during the Worldwide JavaOne Developer Conference." James Gosling, pied a likeness of him, should this be changed? comp.arch (talk) 09:08, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the entire claim. The second part is clearly incorrect, as you note, and I'm not sure what "highscored" means in this context. Kuru (talk) 21:41, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Philanthropy

For example he spend money for pharmaceutical industry wich produce medicine in polluting fashion style. So the prize for the medice get up. Gates donat for africa is not enough to offset this cost increase for wich he is responsible.

http://givingpledge.org/#about ->> here you cant see for what they will be spend.

Frederik Dupois shows us with his film what is going on behind the szence.

http://derstandard.at/3174633 http://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1174750-1-10/hunderttausende-lunch-warren-buffett

Sorry cant find any links in english. It is very strange that you cant find any information in english. History will written in winner Powers

Doing good stuff and talk about it. Good for Image. http://philanthropy.com/article/The-2013-Philanthropy-50/137153/

Force is to persuade others that you one it. Whenn "all" say no to something ! Nobody had force. We are all to blame.

0,1% politic for 0,1% by 0,1% -> Tool = money, anxiety, manipulation, conviction.

Archive.is links

According to WP:Archive.is RFC the following links have been automatically removed from the article:

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44. http://archive.is/20120717/http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/news/dp/2009061204
45. http://archive.is/20120707/http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article2098235.ece
46. http://archive.is/20120711/http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3428673.stm
47. http://archive.is/20120707/http://diariooficial.segob.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=4936346
48. http://archive.is/20120805/http://www.sel.barc.usda.gov/Diptera/syrphid/gates.htm
49. http://archive.is/20120701/http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=9644610

Alma mater

The infobox says that Alma mater is Harvard University but isn't it more correct to say Harvard College ? —  Ark25  (talk) 18:33, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2014

Please change "Bill Gates" the title to "William Henry Gates III" that is his correct name and he prefers to be called that. DC Captain (talk) 16:58, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done: See WP:COMMONNAME. The article already says what is full name is. RudolfRed (talk) 17:19, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Net worth

Net worth is 78.9 billion, needs changing. Source: http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#tab:overall — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukeireland7 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

And now it's 80.2. It changes daily, if not intra-daily. There's really no need to update the number in real time. Kuru (talk) 00:59, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2014

Is this phrase "His ancestral origins includes" from "Early Life" grammatically correct?

Thomas W. Wilson (talk) 18:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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A Range of Issues Including Steve Jobs

"Gates provided his perspective on a range of issues, such as climate change, nuclear power, Steve Jobs,and the state of America."

I don't believe Steve Jobs should be in there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.138.225.2 (talk) 05:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

• I agree. Look at the interview. [7] He talks about his charitable activities, various tech companies, government, and in several places climate change. These are the issues that have multiple paragraphs. No need to pick a few of the dozens of things mentioned. I have changed it to "In a substantial interview with Rolling Stone magazine, published in the March 27, 2014 issue, Gates provided his perspective on a range of issues, such as climate change, his charitable activities, various tech companies and people involved in them, and the state of America." Dream Focus 10:03, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2014

hi there. In the first paragraph, i dont think there should be a timline about how much money he has had but more of a history of the bussiness or his early and current life.

Thank You Kind Regards Jack Is Back 14

Have a wondn merful day/ Jackisback14 (talk) 06:01, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. the lede is a bit more of a summary of why this individual is notable and him being so rich certainly factors in. the history of his business/early life is already included lower Cannolis (talk) 08:00, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Is Bill Gates religious - a Catholic?

By just googling "Bill Gates religion" I first found this. Also read it for contradicting history.

WP:CAT/R and maybe more such as WP:CATDEF could apply. It seems Gates has not been a huge believer and "partipates in" could mean "singing in the choir"? Imagine that :) Maybe a choir boy is an inherant religious role?

It seems to me even if your wife is a Catholic and you want to support her and not contradict her religious upbringing of the children you are not automatically a Catholic? Did he say anything special when they got married?

Earlier exchanges: Frost: Do you believe in the Sermon on the Mount?

Gates: I don’t. I’m not somebody who goes to church on a regular basis. The specific elements of Christianity are not something I’m a huge believer in. There’s a lot of merit in the moral aspects of religion. I think it can have a very, very positive impact.

Frost: I sometimes say to people, do you believe there is a god, or do you know there is a god? And, you’d say you don’t know?

Gates: In terms of doing things I take a fairly scientific approach to why things happen and how they happen. I don’t know if there’s a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid.

On January 13, 1996, in a “Time” magazine profile of Gates by Walter Isaacson, there was this exchange:

Isaacson: Isn’t there something special, perhaps even divine, about the human soul?

Gates: I don’t have any evidence on that.

If he is claimed as religious then a source should be given and the one that currently does it makes a big deal unlike the original:

Thank God they actually do fund basic research ["God" in the middle of article - a figure of speech? ..]

You're a technologist, but a lot of your work now with the foundation has a moral dimension. Has your thinking about the value of religion changed over the years?

The moral systems of religion, I think, are superimportant. We've raised our kids in a religious way; they've gone to the Catholic church that Melinda goes to and I participate in. I've been very lucky, and therefore I owe it to try and reduce the inequity in the world. And that's kind of a religious belief. I mean, it's at least a moral belief.

Do you believe in God?

I agree with people like Richard Dawkins that mankind felt the need for creation myths. Before we really began to understand disease and the weather and things like that, we sought false explanations for them. Now science has filled in some of the realm – not all – that religion used to fill. But the mystery and the beauty of the world is overwhelmingly amazing, and there's no scientific explanation of how it came about. To say that it was generated by random numbers, that does seem, you know, sort of an uncharitable view [laughs]. I think it makes sense to believe in God, but exactly what decision in your life you make differently because of it, I don't know. comp.arch (talk) 10:37, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Maybe he is an agnostic Catholic if we have to say anything in the Infobox.. Seems to me the article itself best describes his views. comp.arch (talk) 17:11, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't use WordPress for such a definition. In any case, I feel that we shouldn't say Gates is Catholic unless he explicitly says he identifies as such. Simply going to a Catholic Church does not automatically make him such- there are many instances where a couple has different religious affiliations from one another while attending the religious services for one. This is what I believe All Hallow's Wraith is arguing. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:57, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Bill Gates wasn't born a Catholic, and there's no evidence that he has converted to Catholicism. For example, Tony Blair was not born a Catholic either, but went to Catholic church with his Catholic wife and children. After leaving office, he officially converted to Catholicism. Is there any evidence that Gates has as well? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:33, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I should have added a :) as I wasn't maybe completely serious about "agnostic Catholic" (was just googling for both.. and thought when seeing it, when are you a "confirmed religionist" :) ). All I know or is my understanding is that an athiest renounces religion strongly, agnostics needs evidence and doesn't "believe" in God, the stand Gates seems to have had (and currently?) and was at one point in the Infobox at least. He may never have used either word; I tried looking up and wouldn't find. Still agnostic would have been ok based on what he had told in the past, right? Then there is the possibility that you get religious. Seems to me in the Rolling Stones interview he is being evasive and that is a word other have used for it. Should this one newest (I assume) source be taken as the current situation and older excluded or is it ok to look towards others?

See also [8][9] and also noting he may not "control" the Foundation (only, his wife, both more?) [10]. comp.arch (talk) 10:18, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2014

in the first line where it states "William Henry "Bill" Gates III" the words "Hon. KBE" should feature after his name, in accordance to his right to post-nominal letters as a recipient of the honorary Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire Danlemes (talk) 14:35, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

See the FAQ at the top of this talk page. Kuru (talk) 15:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

we have never seen before him — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.203.63.120 (talk) 06:23, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2014

|occupation = Co-Founder, Director & Technology Advisor of Microsoft
Co-Chair of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
CEO of Cascade Investment
Chair of Corbis

As Bill Gates is an influential and recognized person, many flock to his Wikipedia page in order to use information for reports or just knowledge. Many are getting the impression that Gates no longer own Microsoft or has a hand in the business, however, I would like to add that Gates is a Director on the Board for Microsoft as well. Paarvvgoel (talk) 05:22, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2014

In the Other business ventures and investments section, the last bullet 'Research Gate' can be a link: ResearchGate. Remove the space and add the brackets. Shadowalker125 (talk) 02:20, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Done, thank you! Also modified the line about how much he invested; it's not clear how much of the $35m was actually his. Kuru (talk) 02:59, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

largest shareholder

Bill Gates is no longer the largest single shareholder of Microsoft stock. Steve Ballmer is.

source: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=msft+major+holders — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.130.55.37 (talk) 04:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2015

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Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2015

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Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2015

I would like to edit this page because I want to add some information which is missing, e.g. All of the OS's that he wrote. Team up01 (talk) 15:53, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

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Pied

Please add back * List of people who have been pied to See also. --94.245.53.33 (talk) 23:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Real time

Is it possible to automatically change the net worth to whatever it says here http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#version:realtime or can it only be done manually--88.111.129.157 (talk) 12:19, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

"inventor"

I request to remove the identification as an inventor and the associated category.

This is cited to a broken link to a blog post, not a reliable source even if I could read it. Gates is listed (under his legal name) as coinventor on various patents but these generally are dated long after he moved out of software development into management, so they would seem to be a corporate formality. In any case, Gates is not known as an inventor the way that Edison or Dean Kamen are, so to place that claim so prominently is unjustified. 66.87.119.62 (talk) 21:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

From a quick search, he does appear to be listed as inventor or co-inventor or 50+ patents - not all of which are connected to Microsoft.[11]

If he's listed as an inventor on an official patent filing, any claims that he's not really an inventor due to "corporate formality" would be original research. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 21:51, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

(response from requester) WP:MOSBIO states "The notable position(s) or role(s) the person held should usually be stated in the opening paragraph. However, avoid overloading the lead sentence with various sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable." This places a sourcing burden, beyond mere technical accuracy, on whoever wants to include a particular label in the lead. That Bill Gates moved out of software development to management is not original research, but is noted in the body of the article ("Management style") sourced to a direct statement from himself. Elsewhere he has stated, "At Microsoft there are lots of brilliant ideas but the image is that they all come from the top - I'm afraid that's not quite right." So the idea that he doesn't personally invent what comes out of Microsoft is not something I'm making up; there's a paper trail. 50.185.134.48 (talk) 22:47, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Even if you ignore these patent listings, a quick Google search turns up multiple articles listing him as an inventor or co-inventor of multiple products, including co-invention of MS-DOS.

You are taking multiple independent pieces of information, and synthesizing the conclusion that he was not really the inventor despite being listed as the inventor on 50+ patents (not all of which are within Microsoft). Synthesizing a conclusion from multiple pieces of information is pretty much the definition of original research. What we have are verifiable statements of him being an inventor, vs your original research drawing a conclusion that these verifiable statements are not valid. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 01:18, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

(response) Please do link this source that identifies Gates as a co-inventor of MS-DOS, which was originally coded by Tim Paterson without any involvement from Gates, in rough imitation of Gary Kildall's design for CP/M. That you would accept such an assertion at face value raises significant doubts as to whether you are in any position to evaluate source reliability on this subject. 167.107.191.217 (talk) 20:27, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I am well aware of the history of MS-DOS/86-DOS. However, Wikipedia works based on third-party reliable sources - and there are more than enough sources between the patents and news articles to leave the "inventor" tag. If you still disagree, feel free to start an RFC to gather community consensus for your desired change. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:43, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

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Irrelevant details in Personal Philanthropy Section

In section 4.1.2. (Personal Life, Philanthropy, Personal) there is a quote and a few sentences regarding machine superintelligence that don't seem to fit in well with the section it is, as it has nothing to do with philathropy. I think this should either be deleted or moved to a different section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.174.255.30 (talk) 19:07, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2015

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KBE

Bill Gates is a honoary Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire. Maybe it would be good to add KBE behind his name

WikiEditCrunch (talk) 19:32, 3 November 2015 (UTC)Kind Regards WEC

@WikiEditCrunch, thanks for your comment. Gates is indeed an honorary KBE, but we would not include the post-nominal initials because he is not closely associated with the United Kingdom. Towards the top of this talk page you'll find a "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)" section, and there you can read more information on this point. – Wdchk (talk) 00:59, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

I read the FAQ and understand your point.

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2015

In the line:"In a March 2015 interview, with Baidu's CEO, Robert Li, Gates claimed he would "highly recommend" Nick Bostrom's recent work, Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies.[103]", Baidu's CEO s name is Robin Li, not Robert Li. Tomwang2011 (talk) 22:46, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Done /wia🎄/tlk 03:48, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2016

I'm going to add bill gates "Education" as law degrees Tungki (talk) 16:53, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 01 February 2016

Bill Gates was the guest on BBC Radio 4's Desert Island Discs on 31 January 2016. The recording is permanently available here.

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Bill Gates is color blind

Not sure it's worth mentioning, but I found this interesting. The guy in the interview has worked directly with Gates, so it seems like he'd know. Fnordware (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

I added a one-liner. WP:BRD in full effect on that one. Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 19:25, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2016

please change US$77.3 billion to US$85.4 billion because the old one (US$77.3 billion) is from 2015.GOOGLE hasn't refreshed it yet. SamTDM (talk) 09:21, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

The source given changes the amount daily; it is not from 2015. Kuru (talk) 11:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Net worth in infobox

Any reason not to include net worth like other wealthy people (e.g. Warren Buffet)? | MK17b | (talk) 17:02, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

It's there. Bahooka (talk) 17:07, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Bill Gates and the Democratic Party

I have found some sources such as [12] that claim Mr. Gate's political alignment towards the Democratic Party, but is it relevant and accurate? I would like to double-check my sources before something erroneous has just been added to the article. Gamingforfun³⁶⁵ (talk) 03:30, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

I am going to close this discussion for now because there seems to be a consensus for using such information only when it is notable. Gamingforfun³⁶⁵ (talk) 03:41, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2016

In the section: Feature films 2002: Nothing So Strange, a mocumentary featuring ... Typo above: "mocumentary" should be: "documentary" 72.89.126.26 (talk) 03:43, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Not done: Sources seem to say otherwise: LA Times, Variety. -- ChamithN (talk) 04:47, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2016

his birth date is wrong he is only 1287 years old

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Semi-protected edit request on 18 September 2016

68.202.34.120 (talk) 03:28, 18 September 2016 (UTC) i would like to mess up wikipedia entries because some of the information is completely outdated and false

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KBE

Why don't we include "KBE" after his name?  WikiWinters ☯ 韦安智  23:48, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Covered in the FAQ at the top of this page; short version: we don't use post-nominals unless they're closely associated with the grantor. I knew this would pop up today when I saw the front page Reddit story about his KBE. :) Kuru (talk) 00:02, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Sir, you're amazing. RealGhazanfar (talk) 20:11, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

An RFC is going on that affects this page

Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg withdrew from Harvard, and we display that fact in the education field in the infobox, please come to Talk:Joe Clark to see if we will be removing institutions from infoboxes when the person withdraws or drops out. The decision will affect this biography. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:23, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2016

I just want to change adviser to advisor. Monkke (talk) 18:23, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

 Not done as stated at Adviser "The spellings adviser and advisor have both been in use since the sixteenth century. Adviser has always been the more usual spelling, though advisor has gained frequency in recent years ..." That is no reason to change an article - Arjayay (talk) 18:46, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Alma mater

Why is Harvard in the infobox? Cant get partial credits.--Moxy (talk) 18:39, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Move talk to Template talk:Infobox person#Alma mater.......need bigger talk.....misleading readers all over.--Moxy (talk) 19:33, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2017

name:billy gates Jeffery Ballz (talk) 09:39, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2017

In the Post-Microsoft section, change Gate's to Gates' (or at least Gates's). 173.64.57.245 (talk) 16:52, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Done Sir Joseph ^(talk) 18:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2017

Revert to Special:Permalink/769235697, no need to state the post in the infobox, e.g. Co-Chairman of Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, like Donald Trump. 219.79.180.144 (talk) 09:14, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

 In support Going to allow for a bit more of a consensus until this change is made since a rollbacker seemed fine with that. — IVORK _Discuss 14:03, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Reverted as requested until a consensus for changing to {{Infobox officeholder}} from {{Infobox person}} can be formed. IVORK, I couldn't quite gather from your reply whether you support the reversion (to infobox person) or the change (to officeholder)? Stickee (talk) 01:05, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

To as it is now. Cheers — IVORK _Discuss 01:14, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 March 2017

Remove "Big Codes" in the name of the infobox. 219.78.191.209 (talk) 05:09, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for that, it had mistakenly been restored upon reverting previous changes and somehow missed. — IVORK _Discuss 05:20, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Religious beliefs

ALTHOUGH BILL GATES HAS NOT ANNOUNCED TO BE FOLLOWER OF A SPECIAL RELIGION, HE IS ORIGINALLY JEWISH. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.221.64.162 (talk) 08:45, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

That seems quite unlikely. Do you have any reliable sources that could support your assertion? Kuru (talk) 12:09, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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Authored any scientific papers?

I notice the article does not list any published scientific papers by Bill Gates, either on computer science or any topic. Is that correct, he never authored any and just went straight into commercial research and development? 5Q5 (talk) 16:42, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2017

Remove the 'gates ' from under the photo in the infobox. WE all know that the picture is that of gates not of jimmy wales 110.225.14.14 (talk) 15:48, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

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there is already a consenusus regarding this WP:Principle of least Astonishment110.225.25.75 (talk) 09:35, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done: It's fine as it is, no change is necessary. I oppose and reject your request. Murph9000 (talk) 10:53, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2017

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2018

Change William Henry Gates III to Bill Henry Gates III 198.209.93.253 (talk) 18:59, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 19:05, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Billy Gates returns from a hunt

Humans live in tribes, collections of families who assign duties and enforce demarcations
This nexus is matriarchal, the females (the dominant females) control access
He has an older and a younger sister, I assume from the same mother and father
For three children families how frequent is FMF as opposed to all the other combinations from FFF to MMM (2^3=8 combos) FFF,FFM,FMF,MFF,FMM,MFM,MMF,MMM
I would bet out of a large sample FMF is less often than 12.5%
I am going to predict 2 to 3 %
And yes he had FMF for his offspring!
Can you spot my reasoning ?
stalinvlad (talk) 01:43, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2018

Change "PC Magazine asked if Gates were "the man behind the machine?"." to "PC Magazine asked if Gates was "the man behind the machine?"." for grammatical correctness. Kronzlar (talk) 02:43, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2018

2001:610:340:550:2DDB:1830:4676:782F (talk) 11:05, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Waddie96 (talk) 11:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2018

[[13]Mike McCready] is listed as Mike McReady under the Charity sports events heading.

Change McReady to McCready.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.106.197 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Congressional page - edit request

What is a "congressional page"? There should at least be a wikilink to an article, and/or expansion on the info about this role and how it affected the subject's life. --2A00:23C4:581:A700:96B0:EB2B:5F92:E361 (talk) 12:05, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

I've added a link to the occupation; it's just an intern. Also fixed the date and added better references. Kuru (talk) 13:25, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2018

Add information to the personal donations section. This is about a $20 million donation to Carnegie Mellon University to build a computer science building.

In 2004, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation donated $20 million to Carnegie Mellon University to fund a new School of Computer Science building. The new building, the Gates Center for Computer Science, has become a center for breakthroughs and innovation for the world and is a big contributor to the atmosphere to the campus. (https://www.cmu.edu/cmnews/extra/040914_gates.html) Later, the Gates Center was awarded LEED Gold status in 2011 by the USGBC. (https://www.cmu.edu/environment/campus-green-design/green-buildings/gates-complex.html)

Thank you for your time. Jo;fdsjdfasldfslk; (talk) 02:11, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: It's a Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation grant, not a personal donation, and at only 20 million dollars it's a relatively minor donation at that. We don't mention other specific foundation grants in this article and I see no reason why we should mention this little one. Meters (talk) 02:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

This is already covered in Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. If there's material to be added to that entry then do it there. Meters (talk) 02:34, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2018

I am an informed and well-educated man who was taught at one of the most prestigious and great schools in all of Australia. I love learning about rich and successful people such as Bill Gates and I have found that some of the information is wrong. I have interviewed Bill multiple times and I know a lot about him and his life, so I think I could make this wikipedia page a whole lot better than it already is. Sxnsu (talk) 00:18, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 02:52, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2019

Change "staff morality" to "staff morale"... they're not equivalent. 104.158.235.22 (talk) 01:24, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done for now: where? I couldn't find the word "staff" anywhere in the article... --DannyS712 (talk) 01:30, 11 January 2019 (UTC) DannyS712 (talk) 01:30, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2019

Change the age from 63 to 64 Haloguy754 (talk) 01:22, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Not until October 28, 2019, when he will actually turn 64. The age is calculated automatically by the template and does not need to be updated manually. General Ization ^Talk 01:25, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Lead

“ Gates is one of the best-known entrepreneurs of the personal computer revolution. He has been criticized for his business tactics, which have been considered anti-competitive. This opinion has been upheld by numerous court rulings. ”

There are two things I have against this paragraph in the lead. Firstly, the criticism part seems to imply that there are major controversies over Bill Gates' business tactics, which I find inappropriate for the lead since to the best of my knowledge those controversies are not so major and they are controversies surrounding Microsoft and not necessarily Bill Gates himself. Secondly, I find the flow of the paragraph extremely awkward. It starts off as saying, "Bill Gates soundly revolutionized the PC," and then dwells on the negative with, "Gates may be engaging in monopolistic or anti-competitive behavior." None of this flows well, never mind the positioning of the paragraph.

If I were to change the paragraph, I would take the first sentence and merge it with the first paragraph to form something like, "He is best known as the principal founder of Microsoft Corporation, and is one of the best-known entrepreneurs of the personal computer revolution," and then delete what is left and save it for the Microsoft section. Gamingforfun³⁶⁵ 04:27, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

In media: low quality and dreadfully irrelevant

Hello all. I am very tempted to remove the "in media" section in its entirety. It is wholly unencyclopedic, its content is decidely irrelevant, and appears to be the cumulated work of ignorant editors too lazy to bother with anything besides bullet point-tidbits. I have already removed a single-sentence subsection entitled "Social media" that devoted a much-desired sentence to the fact that as of 2013, Bill Gates is a LinkedIn Influencer. The capitalized "I" signified its importance.

All kidding aside, I suggest someone either improves this section (preferably those responsible for its existence), or we remove it entirely. Nothing of value will be lost and our understanding of Bill Gates as a person will remain ever the same. (Shocking!) Though tempted as I may be, I predict my removal of this hallmark of literary excellence may encounter some resistance. Hence my infantile attempt at gauging temperatures. Looking forward to any type of feedback.

Take care. Jay D. Easy (talk) 22:50, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2019

Add Beyond Meat Inc. to External business ventures and investments section. Mr. Gates recently invested in this company. Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-beyondmeat-ipo/beyond-meats-share-price-more-than-doubles-in-vegan-burger-makers-ipo-idUSKCN1S81P4 Adokas (talk) 01:32, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

✗ Not done. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Jay D. Easy (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Bill Gates’ Honorary Knighthood

Queen Elizabeth II awarded Bill Gates with Honorary Knighthood. This is an honor given to those not British Subjects. As the holder of an honorary knighthood Bill Gates can’t use Sir before his name but he is allowed the post-nominals KBE. I have added this to his name and it has been reverted even though he is allowed their use by the British Sovereign who awarded it to him. I notice that his wife Melinda Gates who has been awarded the honorary female equivalent of knighthood has the post-nominals DBE on her WP page. I also noticed some ridiculous included statement in the code of Bill Gates that says WP doesn’t include post-nominals to those who don’t have close association with the British Monarchy. What is up with that? Queen Elizabeth honored Bill Gates with an honorary knighthood which entitles him to use the post nominals KBE(but not Sir). I think that his post-nominals should be included after his name in the lead. ~~ NapoleonX (talk) 01:07, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Why? Jay D. Easy (talk) 15:09, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

According to SMcCandlish it is but a non-issue: "No, people are not going to be disputing about this particular matter page after page; no one is doing so but you, because you're not getting what you want." Should any care to delve further:

1. User talk:AHampton#Your help desk question

2. Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2019 archive#post-nominal letters re: "closely associated"

3. continues on, (as hatted and titled by SMcCandlish), "Two-editor circular stuff that is mostly a personality conflict ..."

4. User talk:AHampton#Constructive

So, NapoleonX, good luck with that. AHampton (talk) 18:39, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Quotation

I absolutely squirm whenever I stumble into someone's religion on Wikipedia. (It's none of my business and I don't want to know.) I'm wondering if there is truly an encyclopedic value to having the lengthy personal beliefs quote from Rolling Stone at all, let alone so displayed here? Despite that it's published, I find it too personal for WP, and do not think it adds scholarly value to the article. Thoughts? AHampton (talk) 19:30, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Honestly, that's a problem with you and not with the article. This is important information. 188.124.94.249 (talk) 16:07, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Poor sources

Wikipedia content should be a summary of what reliable third-party sources have reported on the subject. Sources for this article often fall short of this standard. We have Gates' own blog, Microsoft, interviews and even Facebook. I don't think that's appropriate for a Good Article on a living person. We should either go through the sources and replace the poor ones by better ones (which I expect will largely exist), or we should re-think whether the page in its current state is still a Good Article. I believe the neutrality tag on its own would quick-fail a GA nomination, but I'm not really an expert on GA criteria. Huon (talk) 21:10, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2019

I would like to add this sentence based on recent news. In 2019, The New Yorker reported that Gates donated 2 million dollars to MIT Media Lab using Jeffrey Epstein as an intermediary. ChromeArm (talk) 15:28, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Melmann 16:22, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

 Note: Given Jeffrey Epstein's status as alleged child sex trafficker, I think tying him to Bill Gates should be done with utmost care and not without clear consensus in support. Melmann 16:26, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2019

I would like to edit LukeLuke2019 (talk) 16:09, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Favonian (talk) 16:12, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2019

The third sentence under Personal Life: "According to 2007 King County public records, the total assessed value of the property—land and house—is US$125 million, and the annual property taxes are US$991,000." should be updated with numbers from 2009 reported on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates%27s_house "In 2009, property taxes were reported to be US $1.063 million on a total assessed value of US $147.5 million." AlexV93 (talk) 17:26, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

 Done Sceptre (talk) 22:50, 2 October 2019 (UTC)