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The below quote is from a user who gave me advice on how to edit Wikipedia without insulting people:

I think the Holocaust deaths may have very well been exaggerated by some. And, I’m not interested in excluding deaths that were clearly aggravated by forced labor, lack of medical care, and starvation, or even relocation. (I hear Trump claiming that Puerto Rican deaths after the hurricane was over somehow don’t count.) But, it’s still in the millions. Does it make it OK if it was 75% as many? Just say “substantially fewer deaths”. - For the record, this is a form of Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#Six_million, usually resulting in a block/ban from Wikipedia.


Israeli wineEdit

That edit falls under your topic ban. Would be wise to self-revert. nableezy - 18:51, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism is allowed to be reverted, that falls under banexception. Wikipedia:Banning_policy#Exceptions_to_limited_bans Sir Joseph (talk) 19:44, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
I will leave it up to @El C: if he says it should be reverted, then I'll revert, but to me that is obvious vandalism of the article. Sir Joseph (talk) 19:53, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Whether the place is called the Land of Israel or Palestine is unequivocally not vandalism. You should self-revert. nableezy - 21:05, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Of course it's vandalism by an IP. What you're doing is wrong. I'll revert because I'm not in the mood of being dragged into another AE battle, but I hope @El C: will chime in. What you are doing is disgusting. Pure disgusting. Sir Joseph (talk) 21:11, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Ok. Good luck with that. You may want to actually read WP:Vandalism before your next rant, specifically WP:NOTV. Ill give you a hint though, something not being to your personal liking does not make it vandalism. nableezy - 21:19, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
OK, good luck on your future stalkings! Sir Joseph (talk) 21:20, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Uh I edited that page 6+ years before you. Sort of like the claim of vandalism, that is likewise bogus. As you are oh so sensitive of "casting aspersions", kindly do not continue making false accusations. nableezy - 21:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Not exactly vandalism, but it is some ARBPIA nonsense. I just compromised and went with "region" and "area" because we can say wine was made in the Land of Israel and we can say it was made in Palestine (region) — either choice results in ARBPIA unhappiness for one of the sides (and I'm not a fan of balance-via-slash, as I find it to be both artificial and hindering readability). In fairness, though, this is about Israeli not Palestinian -wine, so Land of Israel is probably more topical. But I think my solution eliminates that conflict altogether, so we just don't have to deal with it further. Indeed, just swithcing to Palestine per se., as the IP did, when referring to Israeli wine, does come across as a sort of provocation, so I can understand the frustration this arises. Still, best not to engage while the restriction is in place (someone else can always attend to this). Self-reverting was a good idea. El_C 22:31, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

POV is not vandalism. WP:NOTV specifically says NPOV contraventions are not vandalism. nableezy - 23:06, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019Edit

Hello Sir Joseph,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.


Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.


The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

Move to draft

NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.

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Your topic ban applies to any comments related to the ARBPIA topic area. nableezy - 17:42, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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Detention campsEdit

I would like to thank you for standing up to these people such as pinchme123 who are saying the border camps are concentration camps. I have been trying to use logic to show them im correct such as proving that they don’t meet the definition of concentration camps but to no avail. Thank you once again Sir Joseph Hurledhandbook (talk) 02:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Community response to the Wikimedia Foundation's ban of FramEdit


Hello Sir Joseph, I hope things are going well. I need assistance understanding this user. I'm considering preparing an ANI thread about their actions toward another user.] They have been as brusque in dismissing my concerns.   Dlohcierekim (talk) 03:45, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Beit ShemeshEdit

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