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Thank you for your valued opinion. my edit contribution on West Bengal Board of Primary Education was rightly removed, The said works are not intentionally or deliberatly at all but due to lack of experience in wiki editing. and this was a public web site opareted by the govt. of west bengal which should be used by any encyclopedia. however I can add more info if your team permit me, that should be obviously without violating copyright policy. thank you. keep helping Pinakpani (talk) 12:47, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Pinakpani (talk) 12:47, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

@Pinakpani: Hi, thanks for checking in here. If you look at the bottom of, which is the source from which the material was copied, you'll see "© Copyright WBBPE 2011. All rights reserved." This means that the text is protected by copyright, and so we can't copy and paste the text from that site into Wikipedia. However, what you can do is use the facts explained on that site and summarize them in your own words. This is also known as paraphrasing. If you're unfamiliar with paraphrasing best practices, check out the resources at and
Make sure you also cite the source that you're using when you paraphrase. If you have any other questions, you're welcome to ask here or to inquire at the Teahouse, a friendly place to get help from experienced editors. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 12:57, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

All right sir. thanx for help and suggestion. Pinakpani (talk) 13:00, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Mz7. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Jindal School of International Affairs, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Mz7 (talk) 22:43, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

This was an automated message, and I think it can be safely ignored. Jindal School of International Affairs was apparently autopatrolled, but since there is new content now created by another user, I want to see it put through WP:NPP again. Also, I have revision-deleted the diffs you requested. Cheers, Mz7 (talk) 22:46, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
@Mz7: Thanks for catching that. I agree that it would be a good idea to have another set of eyes on the article. And thanks for the revision-deletion! /wiae /tlk 22:48, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Hold off? Why?

At the ORCP, you mentioned in the closing statement that your chances fall firmly within the 'maybe' range. How is that? All except one person rated you 8 out of 10. Especially experienced editors like Kudpung have noted your worth. Why would you wish to hold off your Rfa? Might I suggest that you should go ahead and give it a try? If I can be of assistance in anything (including any guidance that you may require for the Rfa), please do tell. Thanks. Lourdes 17:26, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

@Lourdes: I haven't forgotten about this message! I am giving it some thought and will try to follow up in greater detail tomorrow, perhaps by email. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 00:01, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Cheers. Lourdes 00:21, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

REVDEL requests

You might consider contacting via e-mail Admins who are known to act on these. Posting them may precipitate the Streisand effect. Just sayin ... Cheers. 7&6=thirteen () 10:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

@7&6=thirteen, I see your point re. Streisand (and the giant {{copyvio-revdel}} template is ugly at the top of an article too), but I was under the impression that this concern applied only to the other RD-types, given the "under other circumstances" language at Wikipedia:Revision deletion#How to request Revision Deletion. Perhaps this is a discussion better suited for a larger forum. I don't know if Template talk:Copyvio-revdel is well-trafficked; maybe Wikipedia talk:Revision deletion? Thanks, /wiae /tlk 10:59, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
It was not a criticism. I have had lots of success using admins to cure the disease. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen () 11:02, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
@7&6=thirteen: It's a fair point nonetheless! Next time I run into a copyright issue on a highly visible page, I'll try firing a message to Diannaa or another of the active copyright admins. Thanks for the idea, /wiae /tlk 11:27, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Post re. Ellen Cobb

Hi there -- I appreciate your letting me know about your deletion proposal of the page Ellen Cobb. It makes sense. I had already seen the notability guidelines for bios, but I'm still getting used to all the rules/considerations involved. I'll work on doing better next time! ;) Alanna the Brave (talk) 19:06, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

@Alanna the Brave: Another editor had proposed the article for deletion, but they didn't notify you, so I just left the notification on your talk page to keep you in the loop. Unfortunately I'm not up to speed on the athlete inclusion criteria as applied to judo competitors in particular, so I'm not sure I can provide much guidance on this article. It hasn't been "patrolled" yet by an experienced reviewer, so we will wait to see what they think. In the meantime, if there is any coverage of Cobb in newspapers back in the 70s, that would help the article stand a better chance of sticking around. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 19:35, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

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Request on 19:47:56, 12 June 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Serobinson01

Hi WIAE, I appreciate the tips that you gave me long ago about the page I created: I have tried to put them into place. Let me know if this works. Serobinson01 (talk) 19:47, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Serobinson01, I hope you don't mind that I moved your post from my old talk page to this current one. At a glance, the draft looks much better than previously. I will probably let another reviewer do the reviewing honours this time, since I'm not too involved with Articles for Creation these days, but if I get some time in the next few days I may have a closer look myself. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 16:43, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate the help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serobinson01 (talkcontribs) 12:24, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Abyssinian (Habesha) people: Archaic and Modern Definitions


We here at the Habesha Union are limited in resources to fix this matter at this time. But we have entered all of the information we have on the topic. We would like your help and the help of others to put this information that we have provided into the strict structure Wikipedia wants the information to be organized in. Thank You for the feedback you gave us earlier.

-- Sincerely, the Habesha Union Habesha Union (talk) 05:26, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Looks to be the usual combination of organizational advocacy, copyright concerns, and unsourced content. Since the user is now blocked, this is probably not much more to be done than to link to the appropriate policies: conflicts of interest, identifying reliable sources, and copyright on Wikipedia. /wiae /tlk 10:44, 4 July 2017 (UTC)


I guess you must be getting as fed up with it as I am ;) I just removed THREE people this week from Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants who can't read English. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:20, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

@Kudpung: There has been an influx lately, hasn't there? The instructions on that page seem pretty clear to me, but...
At any rate, full-protecting the page seems like a good idea in the short term, and a useful intermediate step on the journey to establishing a more structured vetting process for AfC. (I'm assuming the end goal is a WP:PERM-style application process, similar to how WP:NPR does it? I've been out of the loop lately.) /wiae /tlk 13:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) Seconding the idea of full-protection and a PERM-like process -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 13:07, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
There's one guy who has had a dozen submissions rejected right up until yesterday. He is now complaining on my talk page that I removed him from the reviewer list! Yes, I think it's time to tighten up the rules again. Best of course would be to merge NPP and AfC together. Let's see first what the results of the upcoming ACTRIAL will bring. Should be interesting. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:14, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


Hi, I'm just chasing up old RfA polls and came across this one, which was universally positive. I particularly like your interest in tracking copyright violations, and being able to talk sensibly about admin issues, as the above thread shows. Shall we chat? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@Ritchie333, sounds good. I'm happy to send you an email later tonight (4 hours-ish) with some thoughts. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 18:31, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Okay, not a problem. I'll have a look when you're ready. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:15, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: I just sent something your way. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 22:24, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
I've have read it and sent a response. There are a couple of things I think you need to do before I can consider a RfA nomination, but they shouldn't take long so I think it's a question of "when", not "if". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:51, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

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Replying to your removal of my edits

Hi Wiae,

Thanks for taking the time to be a wiki editor. Apparently the additions I made yesterday to Wiki were not correct. As the administrator and one of the owners of the material from the website I cited, I do have full copyright privileges to everything I added. The facilitation blog is a free, well respected blog with the sole purpose of providing information about running better meetings. The 99% of the posts are written by my husband (I would not quote from guest posts), who is a respected expert in the field of facilitation, and a published author with the CRC Press. Also, for each wiki edit I made, I made sure to add a link back to wiki from the original post. (I have removed these until this situation is cleared up.). I did cite each addition... however, I apologize, I did not add quote marks. Since my husband is the author, and I have his permission to use the material, I did not paraphrase. Obviously I do not want to be blocked from editing. Please let me know what next steps I can take. I appreciate your time. Lorijometz (talk) 11:15, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

@Lorijometz: Hi, and thanks for dropping by to ask here. I am not an administrator and I don't have the power to block anyone from editing; I'm just another editor like yourself. I've read through your post here and I see three issues worth identifying. I don't think they're insurmountable, but you should keep them in mind on Wikipedia.
  • Copyright. Wikipedia takes copyright pretty seriously, and we generally don't host any material that's protected by copyright unless we have permission (a license from the copyright-holder). I believe you when you say that you run the mgrush website, but again we have to be careful here. Anyone could pretend they own a website, after all, and indeed this sort of thing has actually happened on Wikipedia before. That's why we have a designated plan in place for copyright-holders (it sounds like your husband would be the copyright-holder if they actually wrote the text) to license the text for use on Wikipedia. You can read about it at WP:DONATETEXT. A caveat, however: the licensing that Wikipedia requires would mean that anyone would be able to quote from your posts on mgrush and use or remix the text on their own website for basically any purpose, and maybe even for a purpose you don't really like. There's also a larger issue, which I'll address in my next bullet:
  • Reliable sources. Wikipedia has this notion of "reliable sources": generally we only want to rely on "reliable sources" for content in Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia basically defines a "reliable source" as a source with editorial oversight and a reputation for fact-checking—think a reputed newspaper or a book from a well-known publisher, etc. Blogs are very rarely reliable sources, because anyone can write a blog and they don't typically have the editorial rigor of, say, The New York Times. Now, there is a carve-out for blogs written by "experts". If someone is an established expert on a subject whose work has been published by reliable third-party sources, their blog could be used to confirm basic facts in an article. But still we very much prefer reliable, third-party sources to reference information in Wikipedia articles. (There is another reason why we would prefer this, which I'll address in bullet point 3.) For this reason, I would be wary of relying on the mgrush blog too much. My opinion is that it would be a lot of work to license the text on the blog for use on Wikipedia, only to have it limited by the reliable sources rule. I usually recommend that editors instead paraphrase content, writing it in their own words. It retains the essential meaning of the original text but avoids any copyright issues.
  • Advocacy. Since you're involved with mgrush, posting links to the website's content on Wikipedia can look like you are trying to promote the site, or drive traffic to it. Wikipedia tries to abide by a strict neutral point of view policy; we all want to make sure that the encyclopedia's content is neutral and unbiased and not giving a particular website or cause or idea more weight than it is due. When someone who is associated with a website starts adding links to that website throughout Wikipedia, it looks like they are advocating for that website, and it raises the spectre of a conflict of interest, because it can be very hard for someone to write neutrally about a topic they're closely associated with. Conflict-of-interest editing is discouraged on Wikipedia for that reason.
It seems like you are very interested in some of the topics you've been contributing to on Wikipedia. I'm just one editor who can't speak for the Wikipedia community, but if I could, I think I would say that we would all like to have you contribute great content to the encyclopedia. I think the easiest way to do that is to summarize what reliable published sources written by third parties have said on the topics you'd like to write about.
I hope this clarifies some of the issues around the material you'd added to the articles in question. I see you've also posted an inquiry on Diannaa's user talk page, and I'm sure she will have more thoughts on the matter. Let me know if you have any further questions. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 12:08, 18 July 2017 (UTC)


  Thanks for supporting my run for administrator. I am honored and grateful. ) Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:54, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
@Cullen328: Wasn't a hard choice to support :) /wiae /tlk 19:30, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Replying to Your Removal of Content

Hi Wiae,

Thank you for reviewing the page I created. I do appreciate your help! I was asked by the non-profit to create the page and they supplied the content to be posted. They used the same description that they have posted on their website. As they are who provided the text, I do have permission to post the content. Clearly I missed a requirement. Could you please point me in the right direction for how to make this happen or do I need to re-write everything.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misty010 (talkcontribs) 17:25, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

@Misty010: Hi, and thanks for asking here. There are a few issues which I'll lay out for you below.
  • Copyright. The vast majority of the text you can find online is protected by copyright, and Wikipedia's copyright policy means that we cannot just copy and paste that text into an article on Wikipedia. Rather, text should be paraphrased and written in one's own words, so as to retain the essential idea of the reference but without actually using the copyrighted text.
Having said that, there is an exception whereby a copyright-holder can license the text for use on Wikipedia. I believe you when you say that you have permission to post the content, but we have had people try to fool the system before (i.e., pretending they had the rights-holder's permission when in fact they did not), and so there is a standardized system you can use to demonstrate that permission. The process to do so is detailed at WP:DONATETEXT. However, it does take a little while, and given that it's just a paragraph or two of content, I would suggest that it'd be easier to simply rewrite the text in your own words. Further, the text on the Healthy Kids Running Series website is somewhat promotional and non-neutral (especially content written in the second person like "It doesn’t matter how fast or slow you run"), which doesn't make for good encyclopedic prose. Again, I think rewriting in a neutral, objective tone is generally the easiest course of action.
  • The second issue is the conflict of interest. If you've been asked by an organization to write an article about them on Wikipedia, you would have what Wikipedia calls a conflict of interest. Conflict-of-interest editing is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia because it is usually very difficult to write neutrally and objectively about a subject you have a personal connection to. The recommended way to make changes to a subject that intersects with a conflict of interest is to propose changes to that article on its talk page by means of the {{Request edit}} template. I will also note that Wikipedia's Terms of Use require you to disclose if you are being paid to write the article, so please do so if you have been paid to write or edit the article on Healthy Kids, or on any other subject on Wikipedia.
I hope this answers your questions. Let me know if you have any further queries. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 16:43, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you again! And to clarify, I'm not being paid, just helping out to be nice as they didn't know how wikipedia worked and I wanted more experience using it so I could grow my skills. I can rewrite it as you suggest. It's really not that much text at all to look at. Thanks again! I'm enjoying learning! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misty010 (talkcontribs) 17:53, July 25, 2017 (UTC)
@Misty010: Certainly. I will add that Healthy Kids Running Series does not yet have any references to reliable third-party sources like newspapers or books. Those are the kinds of sources a Wikipedia article should rely on as references. Otherwise the article could be at risk of deletion, or at the very least content that cannot be sourced to a reliable reference could be removed. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 11:41, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Added copyright (CC-BY-SA, etc) attribution at source.

Wiae - I appreciate your edits and your efforts in general to ensure quality content on Wikipedia. I wrote the original content on the University of Nebraska-Lincoln site and the head of communications at the university has authorized use of the prescribed licenses for the source material.

I'm going to revert your changes so I can continue to work on the draft (the article is not available in public yet and won't be, obviously, until it passes muster). Again, thanks for the help here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcrisler (talkcontribs) 18:01, July 26, 2017 UTC (UTC)

@Bcrisler: Hi, now that the proper license is found at, you will be able to use the text on that page in your draft. By the way, make sure you familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's conflict of interest rules if you haven't already. Looks like you are doing the right thing by creating the page in the Draft space. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 17:07, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Wiae - I can't recover the work that was deleted yesterday. Do you have that power or do I need to redo it? Bcrisler (talk) 17:16, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
@Bcrisler: The revisions of Draft:Ronnie D. Green were hidden this morning, which is standard practice when we come across text that's been copied from a source without attribution. I don't have the ability to unhide hidden revisions, but let me ping Diannaa, the administrator who hid the revisions in question, to get her thoughts. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 17:24, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Reviewed COI. I do have a conflict of interest, plain and simple. I work for the University of Nebraska-Lincoln in the University Communication area. On the other hand I don't know who else is going to contribute accurate primary material on a chancellor at a university, other than the comms department at the university. And, a chancellor is -- to my standards, anyway -- a notable person and should be found in Wikipedia. I am a journalist by training, and will be careful to avoid any of the traps of COI. If this stays in draft until approved by Wikipedia admins, can I assume that we can take care of COI concerns in that way? I greatly value Wikipedia and entirely understand that its core mission involves providing an unbiased source for factual information. Also, assuming that my continued involvement on this is OK, is it possible to refrain from edits until I submit for review? I could build the article offline, but the MediaWiki markup is kind of its own thing, making editing in Draft mode here a far better alternative. Bcrisler (talk) 17:49, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
@Bcrisler: If you're writing an article on a subject where you have a conflict of interest, the best place to do that is precisely where you're doing it—in the draft space. You are welcome to continue working on the draft; just press the "Submit your draft for review!" button when you're happy with it. That will trigger the review process (which could be a few weeks' wait, given the backlog right now). Since the draft is about a university chancellor, I imagine it would likely be accepted into the encyclopedia proper for meeting the relevant "notability" inclusion criteria. If/when the draft is accepted, at that point I would strongly suggest that you propose any future changes on the article's talk page by means of a {{Request edit}} template. That will flag your suggested changes so that a volunteer can assess them. But for now, it should be fine to draft the article where you are working on it.
As regards the conflict of interest, if you are being paid to write this article, then you must disclose that, per the Wikimedia Terms of Use. One easy way to do that is with the {{Connected contributor (paid)}} template on the draft's talk page. However, if you're not being paid to write it, then the disclosure you already made in this thread should be sufficient.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 18:05, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

I am new to wikipedia. By mistake, I have used copied text in Sundeep Bhutoria's Wiki Page

I am new to Wikipedia. By mistake, I have used copied text in Sundeep Bhutoria's Wiki Page. Please remove the notice you have placed in the wiki page. It's a humble request to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamsilax (talkcontribs) 18:58, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

@Iamsilax: The template will only remain on the article until an administrator has the chance to take a look at it and hide the historical revisions in question. Once that's done, the administrator will remove the template. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 19:04, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
But please don't delete the page. Humble request to you. By mistake, I have put copy - pasted text — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamsilax (talkcontribs) 19:08, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
@Iamsilax: That template at the top will not delete the page; it will merely hide some of the revisions of the article that contained the copyrighted material. See Help:Page history for more information on an article's revisions. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 19:10, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Dear sir, you have already removed the copied lines from the Wikipedia page. Please help to remove the notice from the page. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamsilax (talkcontribs) 22:06, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
@Iamsilax: I am not an administrator, so I don't have the ability to hide the revisions in question and then remove the box from the top of the article. However, it has been flagged and an administrator will be along shortly to do so. Once they have finished, the box will no longer appear on the top of the article. Thank you, /wiae /tlk 12:28, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Content from Abhai Sinha page

Hello Wiae

Thanks for your suggestion,but I dnt understand why you deleted. I am writting it myself taking it from my senios and own CPWD website. Please visit this page here also for describing the person, Department is being described. Why such biasing, and in doing so I am not violation any copyright norms. I must say your knowledge is limited.The website you are quoting that I have copied text from there is not true. .Also please make me understand why this line has been deleted.... As CPWD is government owned department it is responsible to all the construction works of Government of India being it inland or oversees. CPWD has versatile experience of construction works and it’s purview don’t limit to a particular field of construction...Also why this line has been deleted ...... Under the leadership of Abhai Sinha CPWD has recorded the highest workload of Rs.12,200 cr during 2016-17.... Please stop deleting the things out of your incomplete knowledge. Please visit following sites which were my refrence.,_India. Please help me in completing the page, as it's a very good initiative. And the person I am writting for hold great post in India, and there is only such post.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Manish Kanodia (talkcontribs) 12:13, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Manish Kanodia: Hi, some of the material on Abhai Sinha was copied directly from If you visit that website, you will find that it reads "© 2017 WebTeam NIT Jamshedpur - All Rights Reserved" on the bottom of the page. That means the text is protected by copyright and we cannot include it in Wikipedia. See Wikipedia's copyright policy for more information on that subject.
I also removed some of the detail about the CPWD because that information belongs in the article on the Central Public Works Department, India, not in an article about a person. It is okay to say that he works in the CPWD, and if he has done something in the CPWD that has been covered in reliable sources, then it would be suitable to include it in Abhai Sinha. However, we want to make sure that we stay on topic in the article about Abhai Sinha and not get sidetracked by discussions of things that are not actually about him.
I notice you say that you work in the department. This means you would have what Wikipedia calls a conflict of interest. It is very hard to write neutrally and objectively about a subject when you have a conflict of interest in that area, because close connections to something can often bring bias. Indeed, we are not here to promote the subject or puff them up; the main goal of Wikipedia should be to report neutrally and objectively on what reliable sources that are independent of the subject have said about it. For instance, you would like to add information about how the workload increased to 12,200 crore in 2016/17. However, if you look at the source (, it does not say that at all. Where does that piece of information come from? That's why we rely on reliable sources like newspapers and books when writing on Wikipedia. Otherwise, it can look like the article is trying to promote the subject.
My advice to you is to suggest changes to the article on its talk page by means of a {{Request edit}} template, which will allow other editors to see your request and then assess it for its neutrality. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask them here. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 12:35, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello Wiae please refer the last page in reference for the workload increased to 12,200 crore in 2016/17. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manish Kanodia (talkcontribs) 12:52, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
@Manish Kanodia: Ah, I see it in this other source. What you should do is add an inline citation for this kind of thing. It's a little reference that appears right after the sentence in question. This lets readers know that there is a source for the information they are reading, and also that they can click the link to read the actual reference to verify the fact if they wish. If you're not familiar with referencing on Wikipedia, there's a good tutorial at Referencing for beginners that I would recommend. Let me know if you have any other concerns. /wiae /tlk 13:13, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Wiae am enjoying discussing with you, also am still into learning phase. And I am seeing a page issue now as you have used COI tag. I have written all the things giving refrence to all the text used. A fact can never be biased. He is and engineer, an IES officer, a DG etc how can these facts can be biased and wrong. I have never met the person directly, and will never get a chance too. Adding such tag is atall not justified. I request you to remove that tag. Manish Kanodia (talk) 13:20, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
@Manish Kanodia: well seeing as you have disclosed that you work in the same department as the subject, you would indeed have a conflict of interest, and I think the tag is quite justified as a result. Having said that, we do have a conflict of interest noticeboard on Wikipedia that deals with these sorts of issues on a regular basis, and I would be more than happy to let them look at the issue if you want a second set of eyes on the article. /wiae /tlk 13:35, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

So the page will always display page issue? What's the solution of that ? Pleas lemme know ? I am really working hard to keep this page live. I am not gonna derive any profit from it. But as India is growing country, and there are many colleges, producing engineers here. And many engineers opt such career, one must know about him, and his contributions.Creation of this page has been praised by many, as civil engineers in my country will get a chance to know about him. Manish Kanodia (talk) 13:44, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Manish Kanodia: I imagine the subject has a claim to "notability", which is what we call the threshold a subject must pass in order to have an article about themselves on Wikipedia. So on that basis I don't think the article will be deleted. The important thing is to rely on good-quality references: think newspapers and the like.
As for the tag, it can be removed once the article is cleaned up. I will have a look at improving the article in a little while and then remove the tag. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 15:04, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
@Manish Kanodia: I have updated the page. However, there does not seem to be very much information about the subject online. I know I mentioned above that the subject might have a claim to notability, but now I'm not quite so sure based on the dearth of coverage I was able to find after a web search. I would recommend finding more sources about Sinha, perhaps in newspapers. /wiae /tlk 15:22, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
@Wiae: Thanks for giving so much of time to the page. You really did a lot. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manish Kanodia (talkcontribs) 16:41, August 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hello Wiae

Hello I am Builder8360 I want let you know your edit from List of earthquakes in 1977 don't seem constructive, Earthquake by month appearing in all List of earthquake by year, Also thanks for fix date 2016 with 1977 and adding reflist A good day! Builder8360 (talk) 18:26, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

@Builder8360: At first I thought that since the tables were sortable, only one would be necessary. However, after having looked at some other "List of earthquakes in [year]" articles, it seems this is common practice, so I think you were correct to revert that edit. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 18:28, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
@Wiae: Uh in earthquake by month I wanted add 1977 Tonga earthquake were was not created in Wikipedia, I can't added it in earthquakes by death toll because there was reported 1 dead and there should be more than 30, also thanks for listening, goodbye! --Builder8360 (talk) 18:33, 4 August 2017 (UTC)


Hi Wiae. In addition to the above page, there's also some useful chronological data on current activity at User:Diannaa/sandbox. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:16, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

@Diannaa: Looks useful; thank you! I'll keep an eye out for future instances of that IP-blanking activity too. /wiae /tlk 22:14, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
What I usually do is skim the new entries at at the start of my session looking for likely candidates. The articles he selects are typically but not exclusively in the financial services field, and he returns to the same articles repeatedly. Unfortunately he has access to several ranges, not all of which are suitable for range block. If you spot any likely IPs please let me (or another admin) know right away. The quicker we block the more likely he is to tire of vandalizing the site. Thanks for this and for all your hard work. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:49, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your significant and growing contributions to Copypatrol. Kudos! S Philbrick(Talk) 19:01, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! :) /wiae /tlk 04:50, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

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crystal balls

In a knockout event, it is not valid to enter the nationality of the qualifier for the next round, any more than it's valid to enter the name "William" if both participants happen to be called "William". This is pure extrapolation. How do we know both participants won't be disqualified? And how does it add any useful content to the article? This is pure WP:CRYSTAL. Please don't be swayed by IP snobbery, per WP:IPHUMAN. Policy trumps all. (talk) 20:01, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

IP editor, you may or may not be right about the content dispute at Chess World Cup 2017. However, that was not the purpose of my warning. Thinking that your interpretation of policy is correct is not license to edit-war. On Wikipedia, we solve content disputes by taking discussion to the talk page, not by continually reverting others' contributions. You have removed the same content from Chess World Cup 2017 four times in the last day, which is a breach of the three-revert rule. There is a limited set of exceptions to the three-revert rule (detailed at WP:3RRNO), but this content dispute does not fall within the ambit of any of those exceptions. I could have sought administrative action on these grounds alone; however, as you appear to be a newcomer, I instead left you a message to inform you of our policies. Stop edit-warring and start discussing on Talk:Chess World Cup 2017. If you continue to edit war, I will seek administrative action. Thank you, /wiae /tlk 20:29, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

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Help with edit request?

Hi, Wiae! Last fall you helped a colleague of mine, Heatherer, with an edit request for a public relations firm. Being that you gave careful consideration during that process, I was wondering if you might have time to review a similar request at Talk:CGCN Group. Within the past month, I've been looking for editors to review updates I drafted for History and Partners sections for the lobbying firm.

As disclosure, I do have a financial conflict of interest, as I am here on behalf of CGCN Group through my work at Beutler Ink. I have posted messages to seek review and comment from others, including WikiProjects and other individual editors who have made substantial edits in the past, but I'm not getting any response. Any additional assistance or input from you would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 20:46, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

@16912 Rhiannon: Apologies for the late reply. Unfortunately, I have no interest in reviewing this request, but it seems that others have handled this. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 16:39, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

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and belated greetings right back at you! /wiae /tlk 00:24, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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cleaning drafts

Hey, thanks for going through the copyvio drafts. Just a note, the |cv| in the decline notice shoudln't be turned into a |cv-cleaned| until the page has been revdel'd. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 17:38, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Oh, my bad. I'll leave the parameter switch for the admins to handle :) /wiae /tlk 17:45, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
No worries, I didn't even know it existed until recently, and the "instructions" aren't exactly obvious. Primefac (talk) 17:52, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

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AfC notification: Draft:Jodie Mack has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jodie Mack. Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 06:49, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jodie Mack (March 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work. Dial911 (talk) 06:39, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Submitting an article via AfC has been enlightening. /wiae /tlk 10:13, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jodie Mack (April 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work. Hasteur (talk) 23:04, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
@Hasteur: It's not a copyright violation. Primefac already reviewed and undid a previous decline for "copyright violations". /wiae /tlk 23:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
So you didn't read what I wrote on the Draft. Fundamentally 70% of the content of the draft was from the subject's own CV/Resume. That's unacceptable It needs to be fundamentally rewritten without depending on subject of the draft's own words. Hasteur (talk) 23:48, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
@Hasteur: That's the number you found on Earwig's copyvio, yes. It picked up a list of awards, which is arguably not protected by copyright. There is no other way to phrase an award that a subject has won. Maybe there's an argument about the ordering of the awards, but that should probably go to a copyright expert, maybe WP:CP.
Outside of the list of awards, at best I see one sentence that needs to be reworded because it is way too close to, and one quote that is spammy and useless (neither added by me, I might add). I'm not trying to pin the blame on you Hasteur—you're a good guy and even though I don't think this is a copyright violation, you made a reasonable call with the decline. Nonetheless this AfC exercise has been extremely frustrating. I don't know why a new editor would want to use this process. I know that by saying that, I place a load of blame on myself, since I used to review drafts at AfC fairly frequently (and probably poorly). I don't know though, something about this whole process has to change. /wiae /tlk 23:51, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Again you seem to be missing the point. CopyVio is just the easiest way to nab this, but it is fundamentally Jodie Mack's own Self Published words that caused me to go for full blanking. If you're as experienced, you should know better. Hasteur (talk) 23:57, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
If it's not copyvio, then one wonders why it was declined as such. Further, use of self-published sources is not a valid rationale to blank a draft. The reviewing instructions do not say anything to that effect. Further, there is a perfectly good version of the draft without the self-published sources sitting in the draft's history here; one could always roll back to that version rather than blanking entirely. /wiae /tlk 00:00, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Also, if you plan to decline drafts for copyright violations (which, again, this draft is not), then please follow the full reviewing instructions and request revision-deletion of the revs in question. The copyvio decline template says as much: do not leave copyright violations sitting in the page history, as do the reviewing instructions: In no event should you simply decline and leave the copyright violation sitting in the page history. You know the AfC system is working exactly backwards when the draft submitter has to explain to the reviewer how the reviewing process is supposed to work. /wiae /tlk 12:21, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

April 2018

  This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, as you did at Draft:Jodie Mack, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Per your comment you should know better. Do it again, and I will submit this to MFD. Hasteur (talk) 22:49, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I really must disagree. In what universe is "are you seeing this?!" a personal attack? You are more than welcome to take this to MfD, or whatever venue you choose. But please do not remove my comments from the draft. /wiae /tlk 22:58, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Hasteur, making me aware of your latest decline (which was slightly unnecessary since I'm watching the draft, but appreciated) is not a "personal attack". If anything your edit summary is closer to that (but it's not, because it's your opinion, which you're entitled to).
And for what it's worth I removed the two lists, leaving four sections of content to be evaluated. Primefac (talk) 13:05, 9 April 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

A barnstar for you!

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I don't have time right now to do more than bag and tag those paid articles, so your assistance is appreciated. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 18:39, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

3O response

Thank you for your 3O response. I was approaching my limit of civility.   —E, aka:2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 19:14, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

No problem, happy to help resolve issues as they occur. All the best, /wiae /tlk 17:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018

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  • WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

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In re. S.A. Engineering College

Atleast bring back my own writing work on s.a engineering page Vinay pugal (talk) 04:06, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

@Vinay pugal: Unfortunately the text added to S.A. Engineering College was either copied from the school's website or unfailingly promotional in tone. Wikipedia aims to neutrally and dispassionately summarize the reliable, independent sources on a subject, not to describe everything about the topic. That's why I removed the extensive description of minutiae related to the facilities; it was both too detailed and written in too promotional a tone. I encourage you to take a look at some of the links I've added in this reply; you may find them helpful when you write on Wikipedia. Thank you, /wiae /tlk 21:57, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

NPP Backlog Elimination Drive

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We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.

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Edits to Envision Inc page

I received your email and I'm not sure why my edits were removed. I created the page in question two years ago. The edits to add sections for the Dallas Lighthouse for the Blind merger and creation of the William L. Hudson BVI Workforce Innovation Center were linked to webpages that verified the information was correct. I would like the information reposted, and need your input on the best way to do that. Thank you.

Acato1011 (talk) 18:53, 19 June 2018 (UTC)acato1011

@Acato1011: A few things. First, much of the text you added to Envision, Inc. today was copied directly from, a source the text of which is protected by copyright. In fact, the vast majority of text you find online is copyrighted, and as such, per Wikipedia's copyright policy, it cannot be included in Wikipedia. The thing to do is to paraphrase sources in your own words rather than cutting and pasting text into Wikipedia.
Further, much of the text was standard PR-speak, littered with buzzphrases that are at home in a press release (indeed, they came from the company's own "in the news" section, a haven for PR-style writing) but that do not belong in a neutrally written encyclopedia. Please consult Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy for the details.
Also, on Wikipedia we try to rely on reliable sources that maintain some independence from the subject itself. A company's own blog or "in the news section" doesn't fit the bill. As such, I won't be reinstating the text.
Finally, please disclose the nature of your connection to Envision. I will point you to both Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy, which generally applies when an editor has a personal or professional connection to a subject on Wikipedia, and more specifically to Wikipedia's paid contribution disclosure policy. Note that if you are receiving compensation for your edits to Wikipedia (e.g., through a salary), then you must disclose this connection, or you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.
So the way forward for you here is to 1) disclose any connection to Envision, and 2) post suggested text on the article's talk page, flagging it with a {{Request edit}} template so that a volunteer can carefully check the text for neutrality, possible copyright issues and suitability for inclusion in Wikipedia.
You are welcome to ask questions here, if you have any. Thank you, /wiae /tlk 19:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)


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NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. (Purge)

Hello Wiae, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

June backlog drive

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.

New technology, new rules
  • New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
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Thank you for providing a third opinion at Talk:Buono! and I have taken your advice to rearrange information into prose. lullabying (talk) 22:03, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018

Hello Wiae, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

Project news
As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
Moving to Draft and Page Mover
  • Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
  • If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
  • Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
  • The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
  • The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.
List of other useful scripts for New Page Reviewing

  • Twinkle provides a lot of the same functionality as the page curation tools, and some reviewers prefer to use the Twinkle tools for some/all tasks. It can be activated simply in the gadgets section of 'preferences'. There are also a lot of options available at the Twinkle preferences panel after you install the gadget.
  • In terms of other gadgets for NPR, HotCat is worth turning on. It allows you to easily add, remove, and change categories on a page, with name suggestions.
  • MoreMenu also adds a bunch of very useful links for diagnosing and fixing page issues.
  • User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js(info): Installing scripts doesn't have to be complicated. Go to your common.js and copy importScript( 'User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js' ); into an empty line, now you can install all other scripts with the click of a button from the script page! (Note you need to be at the ".js" page for the script for the install button to appear, not the information page)
  • User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js(info): Creates a scrolling new pages list at the left side of the page. You can change the number of pages shown by adding the following to the next line on your common.js page (immediately after the line importing this script): npp_num_pages=20; (Recommended 20, but you can use any number from 1 to 50).
  • User:Primefac/revdel.js(info): Is requesting revdel complicated and time consuming? This script helps simplify the process. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your diff IDs and you can drop them into the script Popups and it will create a revdel request for you.
  • User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js(info): Creates a "Page Curation" link to Special:NewPagesFeed up near your sandbox link.
  • User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/deletionFinder.js: Creates links next to the title of each page which show up if it has been previously deleted or nominated for deletion.
  • User:Evad37/rater.js(info): A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).

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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Wiae, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!


As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal
Project updates
  • ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
  • There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
New scripts

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