User talk:VarunFEB2003/Page Archives/Archive 6

Talk Archive Talk Archive Archive 1 ← Archive 4 Archive 5 Archive 6 Splashing some cold water on you I've seen you pop in nearly everywhere I lurk the last few weeks, and in every instance I have been shaking my head. With curiosity, I reviewed your talk history and found others doing the same things. I'm going to give you some friendly, but hard and truthful, advice. You are on course to getting yourself indefinitely blocked. In many areas do you need to first gain experience, and if you want to deal with article stuff, i.e. AFD, AFC, etc..., you're going to need to master the English language well enough that your tone and meaning are properly converted to your readers. You're popping in left and right, making unqualified comments. On the technical village pump, you advised someone to copy a script that was in your userspace and use, though it is very clear you are not able to handle coding very well. That was one example, but if someone loses patience with you and reports you on ANI, your history will be reviewed and you may face some kind of block. You clearly mean well, so I don't want to see that happen. My advice to you, focus on one area first, gain experience on that area, and move on when people stop complaining about mistakes you make in that area. Your experience you gain in one area will guide your developing experience in another, and you will become a more productive user on Wikipedia.—cyberpowerChat:Offline 02:29, 19 September 2016 (UTC) Thanks Cyberpower678 I like your advice and I think Indian Military History group that is currently in the WP:MILHIST Incubator is a good place to start gaining experience in article work. I am starting to work in it. Thanks a lot VarunFEB2003 12:36, 19 September 2016 (UTC) 2016 Uri attack Varun, please can you explain why you did this? The cited source doesn't state a specific number of years. --Stfg (talk) 12:49, 19 September 2016 (UTC) @Stfg: Just give me a few minutes I have found a source and going to add it! VarunFEB2003 12:50, 19 September 2016 (UTC) @Stfg:  Done VarunFEB2003 12:56, 19 September 2016 (UTC) OK Varun, that's good. I see that Kautilya3 has reverted to the BBC source and statement. I think your source is OK, but even so, may I suggest that it would be best to let his version stand, as things are very busy and rather tense at that article today (see Callanecc's protection of this morning). That article would be a good place to keep cool and not get too involved. The difference between two decades and 26 years is a very small thing compared with the real issues described there. --Stfg (talk) 13:13, 19 September 2016 (UTC) Ya I know the tension there so I have asked him via his talk! VarunFEB2003 13:14, 19 September 2016 (UTC) This is the difference between news for a domestic audience, and news for an international one. Hindustan Times reporters, freelancing to the BBC, have sent them a report saying the exact length of time, whilst a BBC sub-editor has decided that's overly detailed for the broad overview his mandate requires. Muffled Pocketed 13:19, 19 September 2016 (UTC) So which of them should remain there? @Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi and Stfg: VarunFEB2003 13:21, 19 September 2016 (UTC) I ain't getting involved; I do think that we should tend towards the accurate rather than the general; and tbh, 26 years is rather closer to three decades than to two. I'm more interested in why, in breathtaking ignorance of WP:LABEL, the perps are referred to repeatedly as 'terrorists.' Muffled Pocketed 13:25, 19 September 2016 (UTC) No tension. I just want this article to be clean because I think it is an extremely important event. Please feel free to add the 26 years detail in the body. But, personally, I think the number is not particularly important. Then people start wondering what happened 26 years ago, and how the comparison is made etc. It has become "deadly" because the Indians were housing soldiers in flammable tents, not because of what the militants did. So I think a direct comparison with something that happened in the past is misleading. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:23, 19 September 2016 (UTC) Okay no probs with me and tents are flammable or....are they non-flammable? VarunFEB2003 13:25, 19 September 2016 (UTC) @VarunFEB2003: Surely they are... inflammable...? Muffled Pocketed 13:26, 19 September 2016 (UTC) @Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: I better not make any more edits to that article as I myself may make too many errors as one of those soldiers who died out there was related to me (though oddly) VarunFEB2003 13:29, 19 September 2016 (UTC) @Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: I was asking do ones that don't catch fire exist? VarunFEB2003 13:31, 19 September 2016 (UTC) I'm not sure how they could Varun; According to the UK's 'Caravan and camping club (probably not a WP:RS though!!!), No tent fabric is fireproof. Today most tent makers claim their fabrics are fire retardant but all tents will burn and most will burn remarkably quickly. Although you would think that governments would provide the best quality. (Except the British Govt, of course). PS: WP:NOTFORUM! Muffled Pocketed 13:36, 19 September 2016 (UTC) No tents can resist fire forever. But the good ones should at least give enough time for the people to escape. The faults on the Indian side seem to be many. Uri is the Brigade headquarters, and they had been warned two days earlier that it was a target. Dalbir Singh's statement even said that the barracks were "empty" and the militants occupied it. If the barracks were empty, why were the soldiers sleeping in tents? There are far too many questions here, which will only be answered in course of time, if at all. My heart felt sympathies for you Varun! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2016 (UTC) Thanks a lot Kautilya. Fortuna you got me wrong! I was asking that question because Kautilya stated deadly" because the Indians were housing soldiers in flammable tents, so I had a question can tents be non-flammable. Anyway let's leave the thing as its unrelated here!! VarunFEB2003 16:47, 19 September 2016 (UTC) Tech News: 2016-38 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. 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The Wikidata development team is now taking one last look at the development plan. [3] Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. 22:08, 19 September 2016 (UTC) My Help Desk notifications Actually, my way is easier. I use one of those templates for The Teahouse. That's a little more time-consuming. By the time I get to questions they're archived. With my slow Internet, my new computer is temperamental with long pages (the old one was not) so I don't go to the Teahouse or Help Desk any more. The Help Desk has a template for questions that haven't been archived does your way work with archived questions?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:01, 20 September 2016 (UTC) But thanks.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:01, 20 September 2016 (UTC) @Vchimpanzee: Hello sorry for being late to reply, I had dozed off! 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If you want to leave it for archives you can use No.2 (Utility menu) script to leave talk backs for archives. I world suggest you use both scripts so that you can do it for both the archives and the main page. Thanks VarunFEB2003 05:21, 21 September 2016 (UTC) Thanks. I'm not sure it won't be more complicated for me to do this. And like I said, the computer gets temperamental with the actual pages, so I won't be answering or helping with new questions.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:22, 22 September 2016 (UTC) No problem if you ever wish to start that work again and you need the scripts I'll fetch them for you. Thanks. Happy editing. VarunFEB2003 05:37, 23 September 2016 (UTC) Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot Suggest Bot's Articles We'd like to invite you to participate in a user study closely related to SuggestBot. User:Another Article is seeking to understand more about the workflow and time commitment of contributors to the English Wikipedia. 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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Templates Hi, funny you said about "I'll specially be making some templates (navboxes/infoboxes) to help things be more connected!". For a while I've been thinking about setting up a directory on here of navigational templates by area of the world. You know you have navigational templates for Provinces, Districts, even Municipalities and smaller towns. Well the idea would be to draw up a sort of geographical mapping project for nav templates which maps out the planet by country, province, district and municipality, and then try to ensure that each province and municipality has its own navigation template, like Template:Amasya District which I recently created for instance. Each district of Turkey should have one. In terms of long term development I think it's important that we have general articles collected together for most areas of the world. It would be laid out with sub pages by continent and country and then to have a directory of the existing templates we currently have, and then redlink templates which need to be created to complete the jigsaw so to speak for each country. Ideally something too where we can have a big map of a country and a clickable map by area of a country or region in which you can click to view the navigation template. And then we can see which areas of the world need the most development. I think it's a necessary infrastructure and a great way to encourage development and link together articles on each locality. I don't know if you'd be interested.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:42, 24 September 2016 (UTC) @Dr. Blofeld: Ya I'll surely be in! But I'll need some help. Templates is my favorite topic and playing around with code my favorite job! So i'll of course be in!! VarunFEB2003 12:49, 24 September 2016 (UTC) A directory of Category:Country subdivision templates in which you link the templates for each division under each country, province, district, municipality etc. Create a directory of what we've got, and then work out what second, third or fourth level divisions don't have a navigational templates and try to complete as full a picture as possible. Part of it may require finding some articles from different areas to create one which a project can use at a later date. What would be an ideal name do you think? Wikipedia:Country subdivision templates?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:02, 24 September 2016 (UTC) @Dr. Blofeld: I have no problem in a new project but won't going ahead as a task force give us more advice, help and experience. Later we can graduate? VarunFEB2003 13:04, 24 September 2016 (UTC) Maybe just Wikipedia:Country subdivision templates would work? Not a wiki project or taskforce but just a sort of way of organizing things and seeing what is missing. I'll create something later.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:06, 24 September 2016 (UTC) That sounds better! VarunFEB2003 13:08, 24 September 2016 (UTC) I've merged it in as a workpage of Wikipedia:WikiProject Navigation templates. If you could begin developing this I'd be grateful. I think each country would need to have it's own subpage, but if you see my UK example, it would involve mapping out the nav plates we have for first level down to fourth level administrative divisions. For India for example you'd start with the state template, and then the state templates, then district templates for each state etc. Eventually of course we want templates for every lcoality with some articles connected together but the most important thing I think is to see what we have in total for each state and district worldwide. I hope this is in the vein of what you've been planning. For some reason though there's an error for Wales, is there only a maximum allowed to be displayed or something?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:29, 24 September 2016 (UTC) I'll start in a few hours going to take a break (have been online for 5 hours!) Part 2 I replied at Village Pump! VarunFEB2003 14:31, 24 September 2016 (UTC) If you could copy my example and go through the Country division categories and create pages with the provincial/district/city/municipal templates where possible I'd be grateful. Wikipedia:WikiProject Navigation templates/Country subdivisions/Afghanistan is missing even most of the provincial templates. Perhaps you might create those like the Herat Province once first?♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:06, 25 September 2016 (UTC) @Dr. Blofeld: I am ready to go ahead with the navboxes, what do I have to put in them. I was looking at Afghans, I am creating is that correct? VarunFEB2003 08:38, 25 September 2016 (UTC) Like Template:Herat Province yes, but I think for now blue link the country page lists and create like Wikipedia:WikiProject Navigation templates/Country subdivisions/Benin going through Category:Country subdivision templates.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:43, 25 September 2016 (UTC) @Dr. Blofeld: Is this correct? Template:Jowzjan Province VarunFEB2003 08:45, 25 September 2016 (UTC) With that yup. If there's any landmarks/buildings too they can also go in the template. Then of course place the template at the bototm of all related articles. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:49, 25 September 2016 (UTC) I didnt find any buildings! VarunFEB2003 08:50, 25 September 2016 (UTC) I created this too - Template:Badghis Province VarunFEB2003 08:51, 25 September 2016 (UTC) Like that with Capital: in above= not section 1. And then place template at bottom of articles in it. Thanks!♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:59, 25 September 2016 (UTC) Okay  Done see - Template:Baghlan Province VarunFEB2003 09:05, 25 September 2016 (UTC) Nomination for deletion of Template:Checkbox (clickable) Template:Checkbox (clickable) has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Primefac (talk) 17:17, 24 September 2016 (UTC) Got it self deleted! VarunFEB2003 14:56, 28 September 2016 (UTC) Fake login It seems you built a fake login at User:VarunFEB2003/sandbox 5. Even though it apparently does nothing, I'm sure you'll agree it's not a good idea to have people ever type their password into something other than the genuine login page. May I ask you to dismantle that fake login? Huon (talk) 18:12, 24 September 2016 (UTC) I'll do it and am' gonna write a disclaimer of not being real. It is a sandbox so wait VarunFEB2003 18:13, 24 September 2016 (UTC) I have removed it and deleted the revisions. It does not belong. -- GB fan 18:29, 24 September 2016 (UTC) There is a test wiki if you want to try things like this out. Do not reinstate it on this wiki. -- GB fan 18:34, 24 September 2016 (UTC) @GB fan: Please undelete them now I'll put on a comment tag so it is int seen. I made that with lots and lots of hard work so please bring it back. I have allowance to do any testing in my sandbox. Retrieve it now VarunFEB2003 06:31, 25 September 2016 (UTC) @GB fan: I'll take it to my sandbox on test wiki if you want but retrieve it now VarunFEB2003 06:33, 25 September 2016 (UTC) You don't have an allowance to do any testing you want in your sandbox, there are limitations. These pages are not yours, everything belongs to the community. I don't see any reason there should be a replica of the login page anywhere on this wiki. As Huon said above, we shouldn't have a place where someone can type in their username and password other than the official login screen. As far as I can see, what I deleted isn't helpful to building the encyclopedia or maintaining it. Unless you can convince me or another admin that this is helpful it won't be undeleted. If you convince another admin to undelete it, I will not object. I think you are pretty good at coding, but think you should move to actually making things that the community can use. -- GB fan 11:45, 25 September 2016 (UTC) @GB fan:Okay! No probs I was thinking of dropping the idea of anyway building one. I know I don't own anything. VarunFEB2003 12:48, 25 September 2016 (UTC) Images Hey, I don't know if you noticed but I standardized the sizes/colors of the "toggle" images you use in {{toggle switch}}. However, I noticed that File:Toggle on green.png didn't have the same style/format as the other "toggle on" images like File:Toggle on orange.png. I wasn't able to quite reproduce what you did with the others for green, so I thought I'd ask you to re-make the green one so that all three images have the same style/coloration. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 20:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC) @Primefac: I had tried it but was a bit unable to do it in Photoshop due to color distortion. I'll try again. VarunFEB2003 06:29, 25 September 2016 (UTC) @Primefac: See I have been able to create this - File:Toggle green v2.pngDeleted can you help improve it. It needs a lot of improvement. VarunFEB2003 13:22, 25 September 2016 (UTC) Do you not have the original PS files for all four toggles with words? By the way, I'm watching your talk page so I don't need a {{talkback}} notification. Primefac (talk) 14:13, 25 September 2016 (UTC) @Primefac: I have original files only both with and without words is this not okay to use in the toggle switch. Can you help me improve this image. It needs a lot of improvement after which it will come at par with other toggles VarunFEB2003 07:08, 26 September 2016 (UTC) @Primefac: I have done something more can you please improve it? VarunFEB2003 09:04, 26 September 2016 (UTC) For your v2, the text is the wrong font and the aspect is wrong (it should be the same size/shape as the other toggles. I guess my question is why you made the blue/orange/grey with the shadows and didn't do so with the green in the first place? Primefac (talk) 02:34, 27 September 2016 (UTC) Varun, to adjust the color you should open the image in photoshop, select and split the button and text to a separate layer, then apply a hue/saturation filter to the remaining elements - adjust to taste, but here, I did it for you: File:Toggle on green.png. Here's a link where you can download the photoshop psd file. Now can you tell us how you created them in the first place? I'm curious. -- Begoon 10:39, 27 September 2016 (UTC) @Begoon:First of all thanks a lot! I am not a Photoshop expert, I barely do things using it, I instead am an Microsoft Paint expert and can create/draw anything in it! Now how I made it - Step 1 - First of all I created this - File:Toggle green.png a simple rounded rectangle. Step 2 - Then I increased the size of the circle and gave it the color we have in the background of editing window's bottom at Wiki. Step 3 - Remembering (from the previous iOS buttons) another rounded rectangle with a lighten color inside the big one gives it a good look, I created another rounded rectangle within it and gave it a lighter shade. Step 4 - Then I did a bit of Photoshoping (not a lot!) and made them look a bit more realistic and then typed in the words ON/OFF. Step 5 - Almost done! Centpacrr at Graphics Lab did the background transparenting and it's ready for use. That's all I could do! Ha.. hope you enjoyed it. Now Primefac the color of File:Toggle green.png is different from File:Toggle on green.png so could you do the color change thing. I can do it but then the background will become white and not remain transparent and someone else will have to do it so... Thanks! VarunFEB2003 15:08, 27 September 2016 (UTC) Comment from uninvolved editor: while these images are nice, Wikipedia prefers images such as these that will be used in templates to be rendered using SVG. (See Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload.) For non-photographic information (i.e. shapes and words, but no actual photographs), SVG format is more easily and accurately scaled across a wide range of sizes and browsers. I don't know if Photoshop supports SVG export, and I'm almost certain that Microsoft Paint does not. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:27, 27 September 2016 (UTC) I neither know how to create vector graphics nor have created. Someone who uses Inkskape around here can do it, I don't know how to do it! VarunFEB2003 15:29, 27 September 2016 (UTC) Inkscape is certainly one way. Personally, I use a plain text editor (Microsoft Wordpad to be exact). Attempting to use a software tool to convert a raster image (such as a .png) to vector always makes the file much, much, bigger, since what happens is that each dot gets drawn separately. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:56, 27 September 2016 (UTC) I think I've managed to make the blank toggle a bit darker to match. Begoon, thank you for the updated coloration on green. At some point I'll remember where I put my SVG programs, but for the moment (unless someone else steps forward) they'll have to stay PNGs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Primefac (talk • contribs) 22:21, 27 September 2016 (UTC) @Primefac: The color you have changed has gone too dark. Use color code #3CB03C in the toggles color. This color's RGB Code is R-60 G-176 B-60 . This is the color of green toggle. Hope it helps! P.S Do you use the Colorblender? VarunFEB2003 07:43, 28 September 2016 (UTC) New sections on discussion pages Twice today I have seen you make posts with strangely-formatted headings and edit summaries, viz. this and this. You can easily avoid such problems by using the "New section" tab at the top of the page. Put the section title in the first (single-line) box, don't add any more headings in the second (large) box. So, for instance, on this page I have put "New sections on discussion pages" in the first box, and upon saving, the edit summary is stored as /* New sections on discussion pages */ new section, and displays like this. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:43, 24 September 2016 (UTC) @Redrose64: It has been happening due to Equaziouns New section summary script which I am going to disable as it is malfunctioning. VarunFEB2003 06:28, 25 September 2016 (UTC) Why didn't you disable it the moment it was malfunctioning then ? .... You clearly would've known the moment you posted those it was malfunctioning so you should've disabled it on the first post instead of carrying on using it. –Davey2010Talk 13:40, 25 September 2016 (UTC) @Davey2010: I am a bit lazy! :-) VarunFEB2003 07:04, 26 September 2016 (UTC) Not an excuse, You're on very thin ice my friend, I would kindly suggest you take a step back for a bit, Happy editing. –Davey2010Talk 10:50, 26 September 2016 (UTC) @Davey2010:Since you have taken it too seriously may I ask you does it even matter. I had corrected those things (the extra section created) so what is the problem here now. I am not doing any thing that's gonna break that ice so...? VarunFEB2003 10:57, 26 September 2016 (UTC) Ofcourse it's taken seriously .... we're not a playground....., My problem is you've knowingly used a tool that was messing up and stated above "which I am going to disable" which clearly indicates you hadn't disabled it prior to this notice and you may of planned to do bugger all before this notice anyway, You've fixed the issues the moment it happened and that's great but the first time it messed up you should've gone to the script owner, notified them of the error and then disabled it for the time being ....., I am not doing any thing that's gonna break that ice so - It's not far from breaking my friend it's not far from breaking, The amount of warnings/notices you have so far isn't the best and (I mean this in a nice way) but the communities patience will soon wear thin so as I said take a step back for a while and I guess edit with more caution, Anyway thanks & happy editing :), –Davey2010Talk 11:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC) @Davey2010: Okay, actually I had not seen the edit summary issue but was aware of extra sections created so I used it as it was crucial for me at times. I had thought I'll keep correcting the extra sections but I wasn't aware of the summary though. Sorry for the disruption and I ain't gonna crack that ice I'll thicken it instead until it's a mountain! VarunFEB2003 15:10, 26 September 2016 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2016) Albrecht Dürer, famous German painter of the German Renaissance. Hello, VarunFEB2003. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: List of German painters Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Brain damage • Education in Bangladesh Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Tech News: 2016-39 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. 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There is a new discussion on Meta about this. It will be discussed until 12 October and then voted on. [11] Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. 18:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC) Ping I had a typo in your username, so this ping didn't work: Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Three things coming up for 2017. I hope that this is a project that you'll be interested in. Also, are you familiar with the Wikipedia:Babel boxes? If you can read any language other than English, it's often helpful to post that. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:12, 27 September 2016 (UTC) Hello Whatamidoing Greetings! Thanks for the ping! I'll just check it out. I speak English and Hindi professionally. I can also speak intermediate levels of German language. I am aware of the Babel boxes but I find the colorful UBXs much more pleasing. However you did give me a goooood idea. I'll fit it somewhere in my userpage's paragraphs! VarunFEB2003 07:05, 28 September 2016 (UTC) You can also add the appropriate categories to your page (Category:User hi or a subcat). Do you write Hindi well enough to translate something like m:Tech/News/2016/39? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:47, 28 September 2016 (UTC) @Whatamidoing (WMF): Yeah I can translate that. Hindi is my mother tongue so obviously I speak it extremely fluently. The only thing I lack is a Hindi keyboard. Though if you want I can type from my phone or use Google Transliterate! VarunFEB2003 10:26, 29 September 2016 (UTC) Rather than using [[Category:User hi]] directly, try using the Babel boxes - for example {{#babel:hi-N|en-2}}, more at WP:BABEL. You can see mine at hi:सदस्य:Redrose64. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:26, 30 September 2016 (UTC) --Redrose64 (talk) 20:26, 30 September 2016 (UTC) m:Tech/News/2016/40 is ready for translation. It'll probably be delivered about 16 hours from now. Don't worry if you don't manage all of it this time. The first time is always the hardest, because it has a difficult UI system. Everyone should consider their first translation an experiment. Even getting one sentence translated (and especially one heading, because those get reused almost every week) is a success. My advice is to try translating the easiest bits, and to copy any formatting you see (especially $variables) exactly like you see it. User:Johan (WMF) (EU timezones) can probably help you if you get stuck. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:08, 2 October 2016 (UTC) And each translation is very appreciated. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 23:36, 2 October 2016 (UTC) @Whatamidoing (WMF) and Johan (WMF): I have translated the whole of it! It is available at here I want an Indian Wikipedian like Titodutta to have a look and refine the language because it can be! Thank you! The synatax is what I copied from Media Wiki but it displays as if it were wrapper in a nowiki. Can you please check on that? 13:22, 3 October 2016 (UTC) Hey Varun! There's actually a translation tool on meta designed for this purpose: see here. You just click on the button next to each section of text and insert the translation. Good luck! — Oli OR Pyfan! 14:02, 3 October 2016 (UTC) Thanks so much for your help. I manually added the translation to the others on Meta so it was included when the newsletter was sent out! (: If you want to help out in the future, which would be awesome, of course, using the tool on Meta that's mentioned above will probably make it much easier for you – just hit "Translate this page" towards the top of the page. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 21:32, 3 October 2016 (UTC) @Johan (WMF) and Whatamidoing (WMF):That's great thanks. I'll translate each time, all I need is a way to know that the news is ready for translation, is there a way to be notified or a page that shall tell this to me? VarunFEB2003 12:24, 4 October 2016 (UTC) A brownie for you! Most of your contributions seem to go unnoticed; but I really appreciated your work in creating {{Userspace Disclaimers}}. Keep up the good work! (P.S. I created a new template and added it to the template) WikiPancake ✉ 📖 14:48, 28 September 2016 (UTC) @WikiPancake: Thank you thank you thank you so so so much! It has been a long time someone appreciated me. And yes thanks for supporting my template. Best person I have chatted with here! VarunFEB2003 14:55, 28 September 2016 (UTC) Do you know? Hey Do you know anything about the recent conflicts between Pakistan and India? 49.126.255.56 (talk) 01:13, 1 October 2016 (UTC) Ya, I am aware of all the stuff any help you need? VarunFEB2003 11:57, 1 October 2016 (UTC) WikiProject Food and drink Newsletter: October 2016 The WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter Volume III, no. 8, October 2016 Note: To opt out from receiving future newsletters, please click here for instructions.                                       Project News Good article Nominations, Project Updates  Note: Our members page design has been tweaked so that members can easily see newsletter-receiving members. We also updated the format of adding your name (i.e. please use {{Mailing list member}} instead on {{user}}. See the page for yourself for more information! The following articles were promoted to GA status! ReaLemon Carrot One new GA nomination: The Restaurant Marco Pierre White (talk | history | start review) by Miyagawa. Some do's to do.. Please see the project's Tasks and To do sections for project and article tasks, and feel free to update the lists with new entries. Please add all food/drink-related pictures on Wikimedia Commons to the project's categories. Help us out by... Patrolling this and this watchlist for vandalism! Assessing unassessed articles. As of September 27, 2016, there are currently 3,497 unassessed articles! Improving stubs Reviewing the "Food and drink" section in the Requested Articles section. Removing inactive users from the active section to the inactive section using the status tool. For recent events regarding project-related articles, see Article alerts. Article alerts Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Article alerts Feel free to welcome the new members who have recently joined the project. 2 new members!VarunFEB2003JoshMuirWikipedia Please consider joining the welcome squad to invite more members! The project currently has 114 active members. Some recent food and drink new articles and content: Hill Street Tai Hwa Pork Noodle (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Miyagawa (talk · contribs · new pages (8)) started on 2016-08-08, score: 10 Hong Kong Soya Sauce Chicken Rice and Noodle (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Miyagawa (talk · contribs · new pages (8)) started on 2016-08-08, score: 10 Double Mountain Brewery (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Another Believer (talk · contribs · new pages (156)) started on 2016-08-08, score: 20 List of largest wastewater treatment plants (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Calvin411 (talk · contribs · new pages (1)) started on 2016-08-05, score: 10 Loch Duart (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Haseeb delpihero (talk · contribs · new pages (1)) started on 2016-08-03, score: 20 Henan Faria da Silveira (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Add92 (talk · contribs · new pages (36)) started on 2016-08-07, score: 10 Plutonocene (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by CxHy (talk · contribs · new pages (6)) started on 2016-08-07, score: 20 Neptunocene (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by CxHy (talk · contribs · new pages (6)) started on 2016-08-07, score: 10 Thorocene (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by CxHy (talk · contribs · new pages (6)) started on 2016-08-07, score: 20 Protactinocene (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by CxHy (talk · contribs · new pages (6)) started on 2016-08-07, score: 20 Satti (food) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Democratics (talk · contribs · new pages (3)) started on 2016-08-02, score: 10 Forum of Indian Food Importers (FIFI) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Bangaji (talk · contribs · new pages (2)) started on 2016-07-28, score: 20 Milton L. Banks (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Dbanks1112 (talk · contribs · new pages (1)) started on 2016-08-06, score: 10 Watercress soup (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Northamerica1000 (talk · contribs · new pages (9)) started on 2016-08-05, score: 20 SuperMeat (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by KDS4444 (talk · contribs · new pages (1)) started on 2016-07-31, score: 20 Abu Talib Urban Farmer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Adjoajo (talk · contribs · new pages (2)) started on 2016-08-04, score: 10 Fisherman's Basket (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Rain and Keet (talk · contribs · new pages (5)) started on 2016-08-04, score: 20 Daegu Chimac Festival (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Kanghuitari (talk · contribs · new pages (130)) started on 2016-08-04, score: 20 Tokki Soju (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Kanghuitari (talk · contribs · new pages (130)) started on 2016-08-04, score: 10 Numbers (Vancouver) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Another Believer (talk · contribs · new pages (156)) started on 2016-08-03, score: 10 Morning Call Coffee Stand (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by MatthewVanitas (talk · contribs · new pages (9)) started on 2016-08-03, score: 10 Shinho (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | tools) by Moist Towels (talk · contribs · new pages (1)) started on 2016-08-01, score: 10 Past newsletters Food and drink articles by quality and importance There are currently 35,572 articles attributed to the project, including 10,820 stubs. There are 40 articles at Featured article class, 212 are at Good article class and 3 are at Featured list class. Article statistics Food and Drink WikiProject article assessment Food and drink articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 7 13 28 48 FL 2 1 3 FM 139 139 GA 13 24 73 251 5 366 B 54 227 331 579 57 1,248 C 79 388 954 2,713 465 4,599 Start 23 322 1,642 9,829 5 3,790 15,611 Stub 1 26 554 7,824 5,040 13,445 List 9 69 108 466 23 272 947 Category 9 1 2 7,566 7,578 Disambig 7 149 156 File 2,999 2,999 Portal 614 614 Project 384 384 Redirect 10 70 535 2,678 3,293 Template 1 946 947 Other 3 190 193 Assessed 179 1,085 3,746 22,238 15,693 9,629 52,570 Unassessed 20 1,940 1,960 Total 179 1,085 3,746 22,258 15,693 11,569 54,530 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 181,666 Ω = 5.14 Assessment log and Guide to Assessment Help on Editing and Sourcing Articles MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:47, 1 October 2016 (UTC) India-Pakistan editing restrictions Hi Varun, please note that your comment here violates the editing restrictions imposed for India-Pakistan relations. I recommend that you delete it. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:38, 1 October 2016 (UTC) @Kautilya3: I was not aware about any restrictions, I can delete it but please tell me what the restrictions are so that I know. 06:49, 2 October 2016 (UTC) They're in the box at the very top of the page. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:19, 2 October 2016 (UTC) @Redrose64: Got it thanks! Actually I had received the ping and was directly taken to the section so didn't see the box. Anyways I had a question. Since I am neither familiar with ArbCom's functioning nor its process so what will be considered wrong? VarunFEB2003 09:25, 2 October 2016 (UTC) For ArbCom's functioning and process, follow the first and fourth links in that box. For the specifics of matters related to India-Pakistan relations, follow the second link (which I have fixed). It would be wrong for me to summarise that here. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:12, 2 October 2016 (UTC) Varun, please check on Talk:India-Pakistan relations. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:16, 2 October 2016 (UTC) Got it! Thanks both of you and I refactored my comment! VarunFEB2003 12:14, 2 October 2016 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2016) Hello, VarunFEB2003. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Math rock Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: List of German painters • Brain damage Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:07, 3 October 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • File:Certificate3.png listed for discussion A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Certificate3.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:56, 3 October 2016 (UTC)  Request withdrawn by nominator! VarunFEB2003 12:21, 4 October 2016 (UTC) Tech News: 2016-40 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Changes this week The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 October. It will be on all wikis from 6 October (calendar). Meetings You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join. Future changes Tidy will be replaced. Instead the HTML 5 parsing algorithm will be used to clean up bad HTML in wikitext. This would cause problems on a number of wikis. They need to be fixed first. [12] <slippymap> will not work on Wikivoyage after 24 October. You should use <mapframe> instead. If you need help to fix this before 24 October you should ask for it as soon as possible. [13] Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. 21:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC) Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot Suggest Bot's Articles We'd like to invite you to participate in a user study closely related to SuggestBot. User:Another Article is seeking to understand more about the workflow and time commitment of contributors to the English Wikipedia. As part of this study you will occasionally be prompted to answer questions about your editing activity, and these questions should never take more than a minute or two to complete. 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