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Uncivil editor Mark Lincoln
As an involved editor, but I would greatly appreciate your participation in the ANI discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Uncivil editor Mark Lincoln. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 12:35, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry to trouble you again, but the ANI discussion of Mark Lincoln has become increasingly bizarre and I don't think I can progress it on my own. Maybe I should retire from it? Any further participation from you would be most welcome. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 00:07, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Tsetse fly - Rounds Carried
Changing between 21 & 25
On the Ordnance QF page, the rounds carried is referenced at 21 yet the mossie article states 25 & I really can't be arsed arguing the toss when I'm only trying to be consistent, change both BAM but let's not leave it different, you can check Williams quite easilyTHE 6 PDR 7 CWT AND THE MOLINS GUN If there is a statement that it's 25, then prove that "fact" back it up & change both. Steve Bowen (talk) 12:20, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- The citation immediately after your amendment is to a different source, this is known as 'cite hijacking'. If a reader went to that source (WP:VERIFY), they would find a different figure. The fact is already cited, the onus is on you to verify the new figure using a reliable source (WP:RS). Please discuss article related subjects on its own talk page e.g. Talk:De Havilland Mosquito. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 12:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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please refrain from using deprecated templates. i have put a lot of effort into removing them and you start re-introducing them. Desist!--Petebutt (talk) 05:46, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- You transposed lb and kg (noticed by another editor) and also changed the citation style contra to CITEVAR, I suggest you refrain from doing either. Be advised that correcting your multiple mistakes, removing unencyclopedic content and jargon, and restoring established citation styles manually has become too time consuming. Affected article sections will be rolled back to an earlier version. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 05:48, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)Pete, one, go and re-read WP:OWN, and two, remember that "desist!" is not a civil way to approach matters. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:00, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- I've been advised this morning not to get further embroiled in this for medical reasons, ideally I need to step away from this environment for a week at least.
- If an ANI case is raised about this problem I would just ask that all related user and article talk pages and revision histories are analysed thoroughly for proof of citation style changes, introduced errors and repeated, polite requests over many years (by myself and other editors) to follow Wikipedia etiquette. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 11:09, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)Pete, one, go and re-read WP:OWN, and two, remember that "desist!" is not a civil way to approach matters. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:00, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Nimbus. I’m sorry to read that medical reasons have reared their ugly heads in relation to your activities here, but I certainly understand that these things happen. Remember you and your health and your family are so much more valuable to you than this project. Please take a well-earned break and spend the time contemplating things that bring you serenity. There will be many who, like me, look forward to seeing your by-line again, but only in a time-frame that suits you. Best wishes! Dolphin (t) 00:13, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind words, I gave it a one week break and have decided (and am able) to carry on for the time being. If necessary I will move to another subject area on Wikipedia. Cheers. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 11:28, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
thanks
It seems churlish to acknowledge through just a specimen edit of yours the work you've done on List of aircraft engines, and thanking them all would be too many notifications. So I'll mention it here. Thanks. GraemeLeggett (talk) 19:29, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Graeme, I was worried that I might be stepping on your toes. There is a lot to do. I archived the talk page to make new conversations easier to read/find. There are many duplicated sections, I'm just plodding through the headers at the moment, picking the easy/obvious ones to start with. Cheers Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 19:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Not at all. As you may see, I get sidetracked into fixing entries as much as delinking headers. GraemeLeggett (talk) 17:08, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- We ought to discuss a clean-up plan somewhere, there are many duplicated sections, duplicated types, linked sub-variants, wikilinks to incorrect articles and citations next to valid blue links. Some red links can easily be turned blue, I've done a few today. The page load time is quite slow, it may need splitting but if it is thinned out first it may be ok as it is. Will probably finish for today soon as I've got a family event this evening. Cheers. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 17:15, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Not at all. As you may see, I get sidetracked into fixing entries as much as delinking headers. GraemeLeggett (talk) 17:08, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
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- Backlog status
At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.
Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]
In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).
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Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 9930 articles, as of 12:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot
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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
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- Backlog status
After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.
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Are you a member of the Society? User:Ahunt has kindly created a userboxes for Wikipedians in the RAeSoc. See User talk:Ahunt#The Royal Aeronautical Society. Dolphin (t) 02:45, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Afraid not, never did have the honour of a fellowship! Cheers. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 07:45, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- I think there was money involved in the 'award'! Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 11:38, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello Nimbus227,
Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.
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Backlog:
Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
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- Backlog
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
- 2022 Awards
Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js
Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.
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Hey, I am the person who created the Training Airways 123 page, I just wanted to clarify that that was an article I made because it was originally a sandbox page. I moved the page not knowing it would turn into an actual page/article. I continued the conversation with SunDawn here. User talk:SunDawn Chicagoorange (talk) 02:36, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Gnome-Rhône aircraft engines has been nominated for renaming
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Category:General Electric aircraft engines has been nominated for renaming
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New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive
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Just for your interest/info
Hey I thought I’d just let you know that some edits you reverted recently at Airbus A330, were the work of users under a sockpuppet investigation, and some of them have already been blocked. Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/2021Porto Final. Fork99 (talk) 20:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
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Backlog
Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.
Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.
WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.
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You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/TRAPPIST-1/archive3. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:48, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Bump, since the FAC has gone with little further input for a while. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:15, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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Fiat CR.32
I seem to have left an unsually high number of typos behind me, thanks for cleaning up the messTheLongTone (talk) 14:11, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- No problem. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 15:39, 22 July 2023 (UTC)