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The Bronx Is Burning

Just wanted to apologize for what I said to you on The Bronx Is Burning page. Mr. Laser Beam (talk) 03:31, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Apology accepted. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:10, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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I am working on it, but this is currently pretty bad, compared to this. the problem is the inner navbox is parsed twice. I will pose hack to fix it, but it will be just a hack. Frietjes (talk) 00:35, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Ooh, that was ugly. Thanks for the heads up. – Muboshgu (talk) 12:12, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, several people from the baseball wikiproject are getting together after Wizardman's sudden retirement to figure out a better way to organize the Wikiproject. One of the ideas we came up with is having our own IRC channel to help each other, as well as new users with collaboration and content. If you need help connecting to IRC join #wikipedia-coffeehouse ^connect. The IRC channel for Wikiproject Baseball is #wiki-baseball ^connect. Thanks Secret ^account 22:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Retirement? Oh no. I'm not familiar with IRC but I can look into it. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

You think you could go on #wiki-baseball ^connect now? Thanks Secret ^account 15:24, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Can only be on and off for now... – Muboshgu (talk) 15:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Ok cool, I got a collaborator for Jacob Ruppert if you are interested join #wikipedia-coffeehouse ^connect Secret ^account 18:26, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Great! I ran into a brick wall with Ruppert. Who's the collaborator? I don't have the time for IRC right now, and don't want to use my work computer to log into it (if it's not blocked by our work filter even). – Muboshgu (talk) 19:07, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

User:Wehwalt Secret ^account 19:27, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Can you log in now? Full house. Thanks Secret ^account 00:20, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Everyone is online on IRC, see if you can log in. Thanks Secret ^account 19:35, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Help with Ross Mirkarimi

I don't know if you remember, but last fall you helped square the Ross Mirkarimi article. Recently, somebody named "Friends of Ross" and an attendant IP have been trying to rewrite (and white wash) the article. Can you help me fend off these people? Chisme (talk) 23:02, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I'll take a look. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:42, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Chisme (talk) 22:34, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK re-review request

I noticed you reviewed United States v. Article Consisting of 50,000 Cardboard Boxes More or Less, Each Containing One Pair of Clacker Balls and passed it however someone nominated it for an AFD and overrode you. the AFD was closed as keep so please could you re-instate the green tick on the review? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:55, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Sure. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:59, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Please stop undoing my additions to Cardinals NRI list, I didn't makeup these names!

Please stop your undoing of what the Cardinals roster of NRIs clearly shows. I don't care what you think might have happened or not, those players are listed as NRIs, and until removed they will STAY on the NRI list (unless a news item says one is removed) as that is the official page for NRIs. Please, LOOK first at this NRI link before you remove any names again. Thank you. --Katydidit (talk) 19:31, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

You're adding players who have been cut.[1][2] MLB.com doesn't update their NRI lists to remove players who were cut, this is known. They show who received invites, not who remains in camp. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:35, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Baseball year template

I don't understand why you deleted the {{by}} templates in the 100+ triples list. I don't disagree with the other edits, but that one could use some discussion. The template is used in many featured lists, and has been for years. I looked at the MoS, as your auto-generated edit summary suggested, but the baseball year is different than the old practice of linking every single date, which we (correctly) don't do any more. This actually add useful context, which I suspect is why the template has survived several attempts at deletion. --Coemgenus (talk) 16:58, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

That was an automated edit. Removing the {{by}} is one of the tasks performed by the MOSNUM date script. Having the year linking templates there is frowned upon per WP:YEARLINK. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:03, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

YEARLINK is more nuanced than that. It says not to link years "unless they contain information that is germane and topical to the subject matter". (It actually says nothing about templates) This is why I don't do automated edits anymore: they lead to black-or-white interpretations that don't always fit the circumstances. If you're going to delete all instances of {{by}}, we should first have a discussion at WP:BASEBALL to see if that is, in fact, the consensus view of things. --Coemgenus (talk) 17:32, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Well, this is not something I feel so strongly about one way or the other. The year formats are the most important thing from that script. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:56, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

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I could've phrased my edit summary better perhaps – I meant to say that there's been no attempt at discussion on X96lee15's part for some weeks, nor any response to my post on their talk page a couple of days ago. Obviously I'm aware there was a discussion on the talk page (and that it stopped a while back without a consensus having been reached). Is there anything I've missed here? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 13:43, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok, understood. IIRC, X96lee15 sought third party input which I thought came down on the side of not having the hatnote. That was my understanding, admittedly that could be missing updates. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:49, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

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Johnny Damon

The consensus from years ago was that a year of not playing, meant it was ok to update the article as if he is a former player. The infobox says "Last MLB appearance" instead of "final MLB appearance", so that it doesn't sounds like an absolute end of career and leaves open the possibility of another appearance. I mean how long are we gonna wait to update Damon's career? Johnny wants 3000 hits and i'm sure in 2018 if he was asked about a comeback to get the 30000 he would say he would still be looking for a chance.--Yankees10 21:19, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. Players often don't "announce" their retirement they simply dont get any offers. If he hasn't played for over a year then he's retired even if he doesnt want to be. He can always stage a comeback at somepoint and the article can be updated to reflect that. Spanneraol (talk) 22:43, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

WP:CRYSTAL is all I gotta say. Ask Minnie Minoso, Joe Nuxhall, Gabby Street etc about how they'd never get back to the show. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:30, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Crystal isnt really the issue.. last appearance is still last appearance.. if you wait for an announcement half the guys will never retire. Spanneraol (talk) 16:09, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Agree with the other two. Here's the way I see it: if he does somehow actually come back, the article will be updated without question. If not, we will be left with a perpetual free agent article. We already have hundreds of players who last did anything in 2009, are in their 40s, and are still listed as free agents. We don't need any more of those. Wizardman 17:05, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

"Last appearance" doesn't mean "last" until the "next". It means THE last, and we don't know that Damon has made his LAST appearance in MLB. I don't see any reason to have a quota on so-called "perpetual free agent articles", or what that even means. If Damon determines that he can't make it back to the show and he's done trying, then and only then do we consider him retired. I'm taking this to the community. If I remain outvoted, what can I do? – Muboshgu (talk) 19:32, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Orel Hershiser Page - Edit/Page Control

You edited my entry. I don't mind the chronological aspect however Orel (who I represent personally) wants his step children included in Wikipedia page. I'm going to edit again, and add them, I ask you don't remove them. I understand your level on Wikipedia however you need to consider who is requesting info and that page is not yours to oversee, page is about an individual, not you. I appreciate the help however, his stepchildren will be included in his personal section. Please contact me with questions. Also, chronologically, currently he is most recently married to Dana, 2010. Divorce was 2005. Chronologically you can look at it different ways. I'm working with you however is like if you work with me and not try to control page that is a page for all people to use. I'm sure you understand the concept of Wikipedia, it's a forum for everyone. Thank you. I'll make the edits, put less detail, and you can hopefully accept those edits or offer suggestions. Step children will be included on page. Thank you. (----) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.101.191.123 (talk) 16:54, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

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It's been several months since someone has bugged you about running for adminship, and at least a year since I have, so consider yourself bugged . In all seriousness, Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Muboshgu is long overdue, even if you aspire to be a content admin rather than a backlog buster; you will undoubtedly be a net positive with the tools. As always, I am willing to nominate. Go Phightins! 02:15, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

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I did leave an edit summary, stating that I removed the content for it being a paragraph about climate change and not a paragraph pertaining to controversies at the Fox News Channel. Since it has no bearing on whether or not Fox News is involved in a controversy, and instead is solely focused on whether or not they support climate change theories, I felt it did not belong on the wiki page for controversies involving the Fox News Channel. Upon reviewing the citation I could not find a correlation between The Guardian's study of peer-reviewed climate science papers and purported controversies at the Fox News Channel, if I am wrong and the study does correlate to controversies involving the Fox News Channel please detail it for me. Thank you for your concern. Execrated (talk) 14:59, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes you did leave an edit summary, but an edit summary of "Removed paragraph about climate change" doesn't provide any context on why you removed the paragraph. Your second edit summary was farm more descriptive. Looking at it more closely, I do not disagree with you completely. There is probably a way to include that information that is valid, though that method is not ideal. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:35, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

I realized after I had left the message that I had indeed left a rather ambiguous summary. I think that a mention of the fact that the Fox News Channel does not support climate change theories would be appropriate in the section pertaining to accusations of media bias included on that page, though I do not think that the citation in question should be used. The reason for my opinion on this is that the citation links to an article on The Guardian which talks about a second article on The Guardian which in turn links to a study funded and performed by employees of and volunteers for The Guardian. There are much less convoluted and, as such, more reliable means of ascertaining the FNC's slant in favor of conservative opinions pertaining to climate change, such as watching the channel for a few minutes(admittedly I watch it for more than a few minutes a day). I'll try to hunt some information down and add it to the media bias section when I get a chance this afternoon. -- Execrated (talk) 16:04, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

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I'll chime in in a few minutes. – Muboshgu (talk) 12:57, 16 May 2014 (UTC)