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This is an archive of my talk page for all discussions in 2006. Please do not edit or add to any of these discussions here; please add any new material to my main talk page. Thank you. LordAmeth 17:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


Wangkon936 says HelloEdit

Hi LordAmeth. I've made some extensive edits to the Turtle Ship article and the Battle of Hansan article. Please check them out and give me any useful comments. Also forgot to answer your question about the nature of Chosun politics. For most of its history its been pretty fractious. The first Chosun king was a general who took power via coup from the Koryo King. This guy apointed a younger son as sucessor then the older son killed the younger son and exiled the father. Korean politics is so regional and different sides always ally themselves with different sucessor candidates. Even the Chosun king during the Imjin War was not the oldest son, he was like the second or third son from a favored concubine.

Thanks for bringing these articles, and your changes, to my attention. I made some grammatical and stylistic changes; I hope you do not mind. But overally, your changes and expansion were wonderful. I'm really glad this fairly obscure topic is being explored and explained.
I do have a few questions about the Battle of Hansan article. Firstly, you assert that this was the first time a Japanese commander of Wakizaka's caliber is recorded as fleeing a battle. You may be correct; I cannot think offhand of any particular examples of earlier retreats. But I find it hard to believe that this assertion is true. Secondly, I wonder if your assertions in the "Aftermath" section, comparing Hideyoshi's plans to those of Imperial Japan hundreds of years later, are not assuming too much. While it certainly seems feasible, and a number of scholars may even have put forward the same theory, it seems like a bit of a stretch to me. Well, in any case, a great job overall. Thanks again. LordAmeth 03:43, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
This is an interesting point. Could you please move this to the discussions part of the Hansan article? I'd like my responses to be viewed by other wikitopians. WangKon936 03:43, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Done. LordAmeth 23:52, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Also worked on the panokseon article. Check it out if you have time. WangKon936 011:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Dear LordAmeth. I've been having a running dialouge with a fellow about the casulaties of the Battle of Hansando. I think he is a Japanese national as his english is not very good and I don't understand everything he is trying to say. Apparently he is trying to argue that the number of Japanese ships cannot be correct because Wakizaka only had 1,500 men. This goes against the majority of scholarship done on the battle in the international stage. He's requesting a objectivity clause be added on to the article. Please take a look and advise as to what I can do to preserve the article. Thank you. WangKon936 08:20, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
WangKon, I apologize that I really don't know which side to take; Yasumi's not truly in the wrong. I really think the best idea is to leave the numbers as you have them, and to include an objectivity clause, but one much more sensical and understandable than what he's written. I use Prof Turnbull as one of my primary sources in all my Wikicontributions, and I trust his analysis of the events; nevertheless, Yasumi does make the good point that Wakisaka, being on the losing side and quite possibly greatly outnumbered, would have overestimated the number of his enemies, and thus the number of casualties inflicted. Much of the focus of my research comes from earlier (11-12th c Heian period) battles, where the only information we know is from epic legend stories like the Heike Monogatari, and the troop numbers in that are blatantly overexaggerated, but it's also all we have to go on. I don't think it should be too hard to reach a compromise on this... And if I can help at all, such as by writing the objectivity statement myself, just ask. LordAmeth 11:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


Hello. I'm a Japanese Wikipedian Toki-ho. I appreciate that you are writting about japanese history. I'm an author of ja:法住寺 (京都市) (hojuji Kyoto city). When I read Hojujiden on English Wikipedia, I found wrong description. "Hojujiden" differ from "Hojoji Palace". They are completely different palaces (and also temples). "The temple was built ~ and a central image of the Vairocana Buddha." this description is about Hojoji that was built by Michinaga in 1020. The palace of Goshirakawa "Hojujiden" was founded upon the primary Hojuji temple that had been built by Fujiwara Tamemitsu (藤原為光). Tamemitsu built that in 988. After it had been burned out in 1032, Goshirakawa renewed that in 1161. Finally it was burned by Yoshinaka in 1183. But it was rebuilt and it has become the tomb of Goshirakawa. Now, Hojuji temple presents at same place. Hojoji was placed at north east of Kyoto (上京区). Hojuji is south east (東山区). Sanjusangendo had been included in Hojuji. So I'd like to urge you to divide the article into parts of "hojujiden" and "Hojoji". I'm sorry I can not speak English enough. Please see my mind, and I hope you grasp the meaning of this message. Thank you. Toki-ho 22:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

違うのを見せうのありがとう。知りませんでした。それを正しくて見ます。ごめんな。LordAmeth 00:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
どういたしまして^^。どうぞよろしくお願いいたします<(_ _)>。Toki-ho 03:32, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
分割を確認いたしました。お手数をおかけいたしました。これからも日本史分野でのご活躍をお祈りいたします。Toki-ho 01:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


P'nawn da, fy ffrind tlws. Just saying 'hello', with a lil bit 'o Cymraeg to trigger your memory as to who I am. *grins* I'm amazed at how much you've worked on so far - I have a long way to go to come even close! Guess I'll start by creating a page for myself.. see you 'round mate! G.O.Carte 23:28, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Multiple campaignboxesEdit

So let it be written, so let it be done, as it were ;-) —Kirill Lokshin 02:14, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Domo, Kirill. I think this works quite nicely. LordAmeth 02:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


What's happened to you? I haven't heard from you in ages! All my friends are deserting me to be lonely.... Sob.... Spawn Man 02:30, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Lol. I've just been working a lot. Plus, I've gotten sucked into a new addition - World of Warcraft. I'm hoping to get back into this soon though; the Japanese feudal battle articles are in major need of some help. LordAmeth 13:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
What server/faction? If you say Cenarion Circle-Alliance, do I have an offer for the guy who gave me that cite (see below). Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Rofl. Alas, I am not on Cenarion Circle. I play an Orc Shaman on the Maelstrom. LordAmeth 23:59, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Shockingly, that's our alt guild's server. Look for "Hell and Earth," if you are seeking guild. We farm BWL on Cenarion Circle, we're about to start MC but need friends on Maelstrom. Hipocrite - «Talk» 23:14, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

You are great.Edit

Thank you for the help on that cite. Very much appreciated! Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:39, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history: Coordinator electionsEdit

  The Military history WikiProject is currently holding elections for project coordinators. Any member of the project may nominate themselves and all are encouraged to vote here.
The elections will run until February 5.

--Loopy e 04:46, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you!Edit

I would like to thank you for your support for my candidacy for the Military history WikiProject coordinator position. I am now the Lead Coordinator, and I intend to do my best to continue improving the project. If you ever have any questions or concerns regarding my actions, or simply new ideas for the project, be sure to let me know! —Kirill Lokshin 00:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinatorsEdit

Sorry I am late! Been away watching the Superbowl. I'm not good at thank-you messages, but still, thank you for supporting me, I'll do my best. :D If you ever need help, you know who to ask! Oh and the talk on First Sino-Japanese War, I hope everyone has calmed down, it got a bit heated. Apologies if I was a bit gruff! -- Миборовский U|T|C|M|E|Chugoku Banzai! 03:50, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

No worries about being heated or gruff or whatever; disagreement breeds discussion, and discussion breeds new ideas and understanding. I'm not sure if it's the right tack to take, but I've generally found that few things on Wikipedia are worth getting truly worked up about. Congrats. LordAmeth 04:01, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

No worriesEdit

Don't worry about it. I'm a bit new and since I live literally 5 minutes away from that castle I know a bit about it. Been there lots of times. Anyway, it's cool that you revert it since that's the system. I'm not an experienced contributor, so I had forgotten to log in. Also, I can show you sources if you'd like to see them. I'm still not sure how to add them to the page, but I'll figure it out! Sorry for the website sources. I don't have any books specifically on castles.


To be fair, Kumamoto Castle is equipped with shinobi-gaeshi: I even took a picture of them. The photo's a bit grainy cause I took it at like six in the morning... hahaha shinobigaeshi can't keep ME out! Security is a little different than it was 150 years ago.


Re: Sephie's name...Edit

I barely want to believe it myself, but according to an interview with Barbara Kesel that was posted on the CrossGen message boards some time ago confirmed the interviewer's suspicion that this was the case. Sorry, but it seems I can't prove it except with the testimony of other fans (and even those might be hard to round up now), but those boards have been down for well over a year and they're never coming back. Just be happy I didn't do the same with Demetria (Demeter...). elvenscout742 09:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Interesting to know. Demetria was an amusing touch, I must say. Made me wonder if anyone else bothered to name other planets after classic Earth gods... Other than the real planets, of course. LordAmeth 21:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Japanese battles...Edit

You're welcome. They were very much done "in batch", from articles with existing japan- and battle- tags, so it's probably by no means exhaustive. Alai 00:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Something for you...Edit

I hereby present you with the Military history WikiProject Distinguished Service Award for your significant contributions to Wikipedia's coverage of Japan's military history. —Kirill Lokshin 03:47, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks, Kirill! And the Award looks good - I'm glad we all came to a nice consensus... LordAmeth 11:59, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

It's good to know that my work is appreciated. Thanks for joining the Middle Ages task force and thanks for your encouragement. Durova 16:05, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Please help!!!!Edit

I know I haven't spoken to you in a while, but I really need your help. One of my subpages (User:Spawn Man/Reviews) has been picked out by a big time editor & is now up for deletion here, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Spawn Man/Reviews. I know it may sound like I only come around when I need something, but this is really important to me. I only did this as a last resort. Please vote to keep the page & I'll do anything, eat your shoes, clean your toilets for a year, even wear one of those t shirts that say I'm stupid! I just want my page which I've spent so much time on to be left alone. Thanks, Spawn Man 01:11, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

No need to feel bad for asking. That community helping-each-other sort of thing is a large part of why I enjoy the 'pedia. No prob. Particularly for someone I've talked/worked with before. LordAmeth 02:10, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Ancient / Classical splitting?Edit

Hi LordAmeth. You were the proposer of splitting the Ancient Japan cat into Ancient / Classical Japan at Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_March_19#Category:Ancient_Japan_to_Category:Classical_Japan. I haven't looked into the category yet, but unless its pretty clear whether the articles fall into Heian / Asuka-Nara / neolithic etc would you be willing to either do the splitting yourself or provide notes as to how to classify for the untrained? You can reply here, I have your talk page watched. Thanks! --Syrthiss 15:59, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I have no problem doing the splitting myself, though it might take a little bit; I don't know when I'll find the time. But thanks for looking into it and considering my proposal. LordAmeth 18:22, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter, Issue IEdit

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter
Issue I - March 2006
Project news
From the Coordinators

Welcome to the inaugural issue of the Military history WikiProject's newsletter! We hope that this new format will help members—especially those who may be unable to keep up with some of the rapid developments that tend to occur—find new groups and programs within the project that they may wish to participate in.

Please consider this inital issue to be a prototype; as always, any comments and suggestions are quite welcome, and will help us improve the newsletter in the coming months.

Kirill Lokshin, Lead Coordinator

Current proposals

delivered by Loopy e 05:12, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IIEdit

The April 2006 issue of the project newsletter is now out. You may read this issue or change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you by following the link. Thanks. Kirill Lokshin 18:49, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


  Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Hashiguchi Goyo, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contribution! Awesome artwork, great find, great article. ++Lar: t/c 13:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

The article's actually not mine, but thanks for posting it! It truly is a well-done article, and I'm glad to have found it. LordAmeth 13:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I was fooled by the nom text, I read it as a self nom... sorry. And thanks for moving the DYK notice over to User talk:Mollypop for me, appreciate it! I've changed your notice from created to nominated. Grin. ++Lar: t/c 14:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

First use of the name OsakaEdit

Hello, thanks for your recent contributions to the Osaka article. I'd just like to ask you what your source is for "but the oldest usage of the name (Osaka) dates back to 1496 in a text written about the foundation of the Ishiyama Honganji", and why you removed "written by Rennyo monks". I suppose you might have a different source from the Japanese Wiki entry on Osaka ([1]) but on that page it says it first appeared in 御文章 (gobunshou), a text written by Rennyo / or Rennyo monks about "浄土真宗" (joudojinshuu), roughly, "the true belief of the Pure land". The mentioning itself was "摂州東成郡生玉乃庄内大坂" (Sesshuu Higashinarigun Ikutama (Ikudama?) no Shounai (Shouuchi?) Oozaka) which is an address. Mackan 01:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

My source is Stephen Turnbull's "<a href="">Japanese Fortified Temples and Monasteries</a>." I was referring, as a matter of fact, to the same document, just changing the words somewhat. I didn't think that "Rennyo monks" made sense. And the Ishiyama Honganji was a Jodo Shinshu temple founded by Rennyo, so the real content of what's being referred to hasn't changed. LordAmeth 10:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
OK, so what you are saying is that the text written about the foundation of the Ishiyama Honganji was a part of the gobunsho? That would make sense. I might add the fact that it's taken from "Gobunshou" just to clarify things for people who've read the Japanese version. Thanks! Mackan 13:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


I read your notice on Osaka's talk page about having a separate article for Naniwa-kyou. I don't think it's an entirely bad idea but if you look at the Kyoto article, Heiankyou is not separate. Also, I think the Osaka article is far too small and an expanded history section would definately not hurt the article. I think it might be a good idea to start adding information about Naniwakyou to the Osaka article and if it/when it grows too big you could make it a separate article. Just my opinion, though, it's of course your decision. Mackan 01:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I think I will go ahead and do that. There's no separate article on Heiankyo or Heijokyo or New Amsterdam for that matter, so I think it'll probably work out fine to add to the main Osaka article. LordAmeth 10:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - May 2006Edit

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english versionEdit

There is a move request under discussion at Talk:House of Karadjordjević Henq 09:54, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I thank you for bringing this to my attention. I hope that my presence in the discussion might be seen as helpful and productive and not obstructive or antagonistic. A general Wikipedia-wide policy does need to be reached on diacritics, in order to hopefully avoid these sorts of disagreements in future. LordAmeth 14:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

CC LemonEdit

Hi, LordAmeth. I noticed your comment in summary of your contribution to WP:JA. If you meant a beverage named so and producted by Santory, I think them so relevant as Coca cola inclusion to USA related topics. --Aphaia 07:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I think I see your point - are you trying to say that since CC Lemon is not directly related to Japanese art, history, culture, or politics, that it doesn't really count? Well, I suppose an article on Nissan or Toyota wouldn't count as "Japanese", but since CC Lemon is only sold in Japan, and in specialty Japanese-market stores outside Japan, I thought it would count as a specially Japanese topic. Coca-cola is an international company, and I'd think the majority of people have it in their hometowns. CC Lemon, like Calpis or Pocari Sweat, is a uniquely Japanese thing with a taste almost entirely unique from anything we have here in the States. LordAmeth 11:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for unclear, and perhaps our cultural difference misled you. On my side as a Japanese, Coca-cola is still definitely US related topics, even if all cokes I buy was producted, bottled and of course sold in Japan. As for conclusion, I totally agree with you. --Aphaia 02:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Ah, sorry for the confusion. I'm glad we are together on that. Keep up the good work! がんばれ! LordAmeth 03:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Request a small favorEdit

Forgive me for grabbing the first person on the list on Project Milt Hist I know from past edits, but at least you and I have interacted. I just signed up there while am taking a few weeks for RL (This is a break from my wikibreak as it were!). Could I get you to somehow cut out your watchlisted pages on the huge project so I can go down the list and add them to my watchlist? Would be much appreciated. Just email me fabartus -at- (No at symbol means no spam spiders grabbing same!). Thanks. Best regards, // FrankB 22:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no prob. Just want to make sure I get what it is you're asking. You want me to email you a list of all the Mil. Hist. pages I have watchlisted? LordAmeth 02:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)


Hi LordAmeth: I saw your comment when you were editing at the Horyu-ji article, and with the hope of not sounding defensive, I was wondering what I could do better.

I know there is still a lot of information that needs to be added. But everything I did add, I made sure to source.

If you wouldn't mind sharing with me your input, insight, and perceptions on how to improve the article, I would appreciate. Thanks for your time. Tortfeasor 23:31, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I apologize, feasor, I realize that my phrasing was somewhat patronizing. Basically all I meant was that I am not getting involved in the editwar that's been going on on that page and several others regarding the degree of influence Korea (Paekche) had on Japanese culture and architecture in that period. I really think that for the most part, all the Horyu-ji article needs is a little cleanup for style. Just make the sentences a little more straightforward, a little less awkward. If you'd like I can take a look at it tonight and see what sort of little changes might need to be made. LordAmeth 10:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks I would appreciate that and I will be working on the article too. Tortfeasor 17:18, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


Hello Lord Ameth! Thanks so much for your encouragement to bring people to the Museum of Fine Arts and the Museum of Science. I'm a huge fan of the MoS myself and hope people will go there, espcially for the Body Worlds exhibit. I've got a ticket for July 29 and just can't wait! Actually, one of our local Wikipedians has worked with the guy behind it ...

Anyway ... Would you mind extending your offer to show people around on the discussion page of the field trips list? I think if people see it there, they might be more likely to take you up on the offer.

I might be able to purchase some discount tickets to the MoS through my employer ...

I'm really busy doing a hundred other things for Wikimania. I'm sure people would be interested in going to either museum. If you would like to try to coordinate a group to go together at a certain date and time, maybe you should go ahead and do that. It might be a good activity for people on Thursday, Friday, or Monday.

Jkbaumga 23:20, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey Lord Ameth! I've been talking to some Wikimania attendees about museums attendees should visit. There's definitely a lot of interest in the Museum of Science and the Museum of Fine Arts.

Jkbaumga 19:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IV - June 2006Edit

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Tonda Page EditsEdit

Hello! I'm an international student currently studying with Tonda for the next year. If you'd like, I can confirm these details with the zachou of Tonda (His name is Abe-sensei). The story seems almost exactly on from what he's told us and if possible we can get him to point us in the direction of their homepage which I'm sure will have the story. Myself and the other two students studying at Tonda were planning to update the page anyway, so thank you very much for doing this! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 10:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

That would be wonderful. Thanks for your help, and good luck working with them - that seems like quite the unique experience, and they seem like wonderful people. ganbattene. LordAmeth 15:03, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Editing MainPageEdit

Hello, LordAmeth. Thanks for updating DYK. Just wanna remind you to protect any images before you post them on the MainPage, and please 'preview' to check for obvious errors. Many thanks. -- PFHLai 20:29, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Righto. It was my first time trying my hand at it, and I'm not at my own home computer, so things didn't work as smoothly as I'd have liked. I'll be better next time. Thanks for noticing so quickly. LordAmeth 20:31, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Battle of HakodateEdit

Thanks for the comments on Battle of Hakodate! Best regards PHG 07:21, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


Hi. Please let me know what was wrong with the Gokishichido page revision. Thanks!

I've looked at what you changed, and it seems all for the better. I honestly do not recall reverting it. I apologize for the bother. I do not know what happened. LordAmeth 21:47, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

No bother, I was just wondering. Thanks for checking what I wrote. ありがとう!


Since you said we can ask you about Boston, I have a question for sb who is more familiar with this city (and country :>) then me: What is the best way you'd go to Boston for Wikimania (I don't have a car). I wonder if I should go by plane, train or bus? Any idea how long would a train or bus ride take?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 19:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

It would help if I knew where you were coming from ^_^. Sorry. Um, but, yes, plane, train, and bus are all perfectly doable options. Boston's a relatively large and organized city, and downtown is quite easily accessible by all three. LordAmeth 03:13, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Pittsburgh :) Sorry for late reply, I rarely check other people's talk pages for answers (as this does not give me 'new message' notificiation).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus  talk  15:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah, yes, sorry about that. I acknowledge the difficulty of the lack of new message notification... but I usually add User talk pages to my watchlist so as to follow such conversations. Hrm. From Pittsburgh, I cannot say. It's about four hours from here (Boston) to New York, and while I have not been to PA, I've heard it's a rather long (wide?) state, and so I'd have to guess, what, 4 hours or so from Pittsburgh to New York. You'd probably know that part. Though there may or may not be a layover in NY if you do bus or train. Plane, hm, I'd say, I dunno, 3 hrs? It's 90mins to 2 hours from New York, including taxiing time, circling waiting for landing clearance, all that good stuff. Good luck, hope you enjoy your time in Boston. Feel free to ask any further questions. I'm not sure if I shall be making it to WikiMania, but I hope to see some of you at the Museum of Science. LordAmeth 02:36, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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Might I be so forward as to suggest that you run for the position? :-) Kirill Lokshin 00:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
That's not too forward at all. I was pretty on the fence about nominating myself, but I'll go for it... LordAmeth 00:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
You were a little too early; I hope you don't terribly mind my making those changes, but it's not voting time yet ;-) Kirill Lokshin 16:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I do not mind at all. I wasn't quite clear on that, anyway. Seemed people were making those sorts of comments, and I just didn't want people to think I wasn't voting for them or being supportive. ^_^ Sorry, and thanks. (I really wish our language had a way of expressing both those things at once - other languages do.) LordAmeth 03:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for the barn sensu, BUT!Edit

Now that you've awarded it to me, I can't award it to you, although you certainly deserve it! Fg2 00:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Lol. That's why I jumped at it. Didn't want someone else giving it to me and then being unable to receive one in return... You deserve it, my friend. LordAmeth 00:26, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Project tag questionEdit

Howdy-Kirill asked me to consult with you on a person and whether he should be tagged? See discussion here plange 00:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I'm honored that you'd ask for my opinion on this... I'm quite liberal with this sort of thing, and so I'd say to leave it tagged, as he was closely related to the political events surrounding the beginning of WWII, and apparently Germany's surrender at the end. But European history and particularly 20th century history, are not really my strong points, so I'll certainly defer to those who seem to know the background of these developments better. LordAmeth 02:16, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Japan image copyright questionEdit

I'm hoping you know the answer to this...Wikipedia guidelines are fairly clear on the copyright laws of English-speaking and European countries. However, Wikipedia doesn't provide much guidance on Japanese copyright law. In fact, Wikipedia doesn't have a template to use when tagging Japanese images that are public domain, which makes it difficult. In researching sources for the World War II articles I edit, I find many good Japanese photos that are often labled as "official Imperial Japanese Navy" or, labeled only with a year. I know that Japanese copyright law is "death+50", but what about government images? Or how about images from Japanese newspapers or periodicals, which rarely provide the author's names, since journalists names aren't usually provided for stories and pictures in the Japanese press? Is it just 50 years since publication? Any guidance you could provide would be appreciated. Cla68 02:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Strangely enough, I cannot seem to find any mention of government images in Japan's copyright law. Speeches are specifically mentioned as being free to reproduce. And the copyright on all anonymous works expires 50 years after the creation of that work. So, I would wager, most WWII images are copyright-free within Japan. However, here is the catch: while the EU and Japan have agreed to respect the copyright laws of an originating country (i.e. the short rule, no copyright can ever exceed the copyright in its originating country), the US has not agreed to this. So, if there is any reason for the images in question to be copyrighted under US law, then they are in fact copyrighted. According to Wikipedia:Public domain, German photos, propaganda poster images, etc, from WWII are for the most part considered copyrighted. Sorry I couldn't find a straight answer for you - it's not a subject I know much about myself without looking it up as I did just now. Good luck! LordAmeth 11:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the valuable information. Since there isn't a "public domain-Japan" licensing template, and there doesn't appear to be a generic "public domain" template, I'll probably have to use the U.S. government template, and then give an explanation. Since U.S. government images are public domain, I would assume that the U.S. would accept Japanese government images as public domain, even more so if the 50-year Japanese copyright has expired. Many of the images in Wikipedia World War II articles that are attributed to the U.S. government are actually of Japanese government origin, but appear to have been liberally "liberated" by U.S. government military agencies for their own use (for example, the pictures of Japanese admirals like Isoroku Yamamoto). Cla68 20:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

LordAmeth: Thank you for the Barnstar. Your note summed things up nicely and it was a really nice encouragement. I will try to keep doing my best. Thanks again. Tortfeasor 20:18, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Japanese namesEdit

Inconsistency Do you know why some Japanese names are sorted by last name in the categories, and some aren't? -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 02:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Because some people mistakenly sort them by first name. Also, because most Japanese names are already in "last name - first name" format, and so do not need to be pipesorted. LordAmeth 11:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinator election - vote phase!Edit

The Military history WikiProject coordinator election has begun. We will select seven coordinators to serve for the next six months from a pool of eleven candidates. Please vote here by August 26!

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Fire ahead!Edit

There was nothing in particular I wanted to do, just translate large chunks (haven't got around since I got back three days ago) to bring the English article up to the standard of the French one. But thanks for asking. I'll probably do at least a little bit right now. elvenscout742 21:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Assistant Coordinator positionEdit

It gives me great pleasure to inform you that, per the result of the just-concluded election, you are now an Assistant Coordinator of the Military history WikiProject!

I would ask that you place the coordinator page on your watchlist; its talk page contains a scratch pad and discussion area that should be useful in keeping track of needed coordination work.

More generally, I'll be laying out some thoughts on potential short-term plans for the project here; you are cordially invited to comment!

Congratulations, and thank you for all of your hard work! Kirill Lokshin 00:03, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! I am very excited to become more involved in this project on a more administrative level. I hope that my efforts will prove helpful. LordAmeth 00:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

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Yamto PeriodEdit

"In Emperor Kimmei's reign, according to the Nihongi, a Korean was in charge of taxes levied on shipments. The introduction of Chinese writing to Yamato was one of Baekje's most important gifts to the court."

You must explain the impact if this episode is important in the history of Japan. -- 16:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

As I explained on your own talk page, this is important in providing evidence to support the strong connections between Korea and Japan during this period. I really do not know what else to say to you to make you understand this. In an encyclopedia article, or any other academic writing, it is not essential that every single sentence describe a significant event. It is in fact very important to supply supporting evidence such as this. That is why it is important; that is why it is significant; that is why it is included in the article. LordAmeth 21:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Israel-Japan relationsEdit

I saw your message on Talk:Israel-Japan relations. That's really interesting! Sources or pictures would be great. Regards, Ya ya ya ya ya ya 02:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Removing existing A-Class ratingEdit

We're talking about you. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 02:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Issue resolved. Won't happen again. I just want to be a good coordinator... just want to be seen as helpful :/ LordAmeth 13:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Long time no write - Polls:Edit

Hi. I'm just sending out a message for a new study I will be undertaking soon. It will involve surveys & polls to gather information & trends of editors on Wikipedia & other subjects. The data gathering will involve yourself recieving a questionaire on your talk page for you to fill out. I will then collect your questionaire & combine it with data from other editors. If you would like to be a part of this experiment, or know of someone who does, place a "Yes" or "No" below this message. Remember, it's only for fun & you can choose not to fill out all or parts of your questionaire once they arrive. Have a nice day...   -- Spawn Man 05:40, 8 September 2006 (UTC). P.S. Hope you're doing well friend, haven't heard from you in ages. I hope my vote helped you get to asst. manager?

Heya SpawnMan. Haven't heard from you in a while. Poll sounds like fun. And, yes, I did make it to Asst Coordinator. Thanks a lot for your support. Though, as much as I like the recognition and whatever, I'm not sure I'm really inclined to do the nitty-gritty coordinator admin work. I'm really happy to be a bit more visible, and to start getting more questions from other editors who I might be able to help out in various ways, but I kind of feel like a bad coordinator because I haven't been doing very much of the admin stuff. Oh well, anyway. Hope all is well with you. Take care. LordAmeth 12:47, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Great! As soon as I get enough people, I'll send out a questionaire. Yeah, I'm fine at the momento. I've taken up sailing the Wikiproject Dinosaurs boat, as well as their collaboration. I tend to be more behind the scenes, but will occasionally edit one of their articles. Don't worry, you'll find your nische. Have a great day & thanks! Spawn Man 22:11, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


  On 9 September, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Yakusha-e, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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  On 10 September, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ichikawa Danjūrō V, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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1st poll:Edit

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Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationshipsEdit

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Hōjō clanEdit

All the "Hōjō" links within the Hōjō clan article show red links now. However, half of these articles already exist under the "Hojo" spelling WITHOUT macrons. For example Hojo Tokimasa rather than Hōjō Tokimasa. I believe we need to massive move all these "Hojo" articles to the "Hōjō" spelling. (Sorry, I don't have the time to do them right away).--Endroit 21:45, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I know we do, and I apologise for doing it the way I did. Seemed more or less the only logical way to do it. I am gradually moving each individual Hōjō family article, and changing the links in every article that links to that individual one. If there's a way to massive move them, I'd love to know it, but for now I'm doing it manually, one by one. LordAmeth 23:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
If you just go ahead and move the articles themselves, Wikipedia will automatically put in a redirect at the old page so the old links will all still work and go to the new article name. They can the links from other article can be upgraded at your leisure. Ben W Bell talk 07:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
True, true. I just figured I'd change it in-text in as many articles as I can, too. There are very few instances, in any article, where it's more correct to write "Hojo" than "Hōjō". Nevertheless, for the sake of everyone's organization and sanity, I'll go move all the articles, and worry about the text later. LordAmeth 13:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I've completed moving the articles for everyone listed on the main pages for the Hōjō clan and Late Hōjō clan. LordAmeth 14:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Hōjō TokiyukiEdit

Your redirect and changing of the macrons overwrote and destroyed the article I wrote on Hōjō Tokiyuki, Principal of Hiroshima Regular High School. After returning from attending a worldwide morality conference in 1908 where he conducted a survey of the British Scouting organization, he returned to Japan and gave lectures on it in Hiroshima and other places.

Please create a dismbiguation page and redirect them to two separate Hōjō Tokiyuki articles. Chris 19:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I had no idea. I sincerely hope it's recoverable. I had no malicious intention here... it just didn't occur to me to look to see if I was overwriting another article, rather than simply a redirect page. LordAmeth 20:37, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I've restored your work, and placed it at Hōjō Tokiyuki (Scouting); since the samurai Hōjō Tokiyuki is likely the more commonly searched for, and has quite a number of things linking to it, I have left it alone rather than move it to some other page such as "Hōjō Tokiyuki (samurai)". I have, however, placed a nice disambig notice at the top of the samurai article. I do apologize for the trouble. LordAmeth 20:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you brother, I appreciate your hard work on my account. I have likewise placed a disambig notice at the top of the Scouting article. :) Thanks, Chris 20:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

2nd Poll:Edit

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Poll 2 - Writing subjectsEdit

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  • Question 3: Have you ever written or edited an article about your home town or the city you live in?
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Move of Council of five regentsEdit

Hi there, it seems you didn't follow the steps on Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Steps_for_requesting_a_page_move when reqesting move for Council of five regents, so I just delisted the request from Wikipedia:Requested_moves. Please list it again if you still whish to execute the move. Regards, Dijxtra 08:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I didn't follow the correct steps because I wanted to create a discussion on the article's talk page first. Thanks for your help. LordAmeth 11:50, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


Hello LordAmeth, I'm done with changing the article. I hope, the natives won't start considering, what language it is written in :-) Now it should deserve a better ranking than "Stub". regards, Don.Rumata 04:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC) Hi, may I remind you that the re-rating of the Masin-article is due ? Thx Don.Rumata 05:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for the "B". Me - and hopefully others - will continue to take effort to finally get an "A" ranking. Yours, Don.Rumata 05:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


I just got back from two weeks in the midwest and saw your note of welcome. Thanks for your warm welcome. I've been interested in, and periodically researching, Hideyoshi's time period since 1968. Despite turning 65 next month and being retired from the government, I am teaching (part-time) Korean language. My other main research interests besides the Korea invasions are the Eastern Turkic, Mongol, and Tungusic tribes on China's periphery prior to 1644. I served in Army intell 1961-4 and am a graduate of the US Naval War College (1992). I read Korean, Classical Chinese, Japanese, and modern Mandarin (weaker) and have studied some Mongolian (Khalkha), Uygur (early texts), Latin, and Greek. While I've worked with computers since the days on mainframes and huge boxes of hollerith cards, I am SLOWLY absorbing the intricacies of Wiki editing language. I look forward to working with you, especially on Hideyoshi. Doc Rock 13:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Questions on JapanEdit

Hello, LordAmeth. My name is Nagaeyari and I have a few questions regarding some premodern Japanese issues. A talk page really isn't the place for it, though, so could you email me at ? Thanks Nagaeyari 21:43, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject IsraelEdit

Please come and join: Wikipedia: WikiProject Israel

wikiproject KoreaEdit


If you are not sure of joining Wikiproject Korea, Japan has a significant part in Korean history and much of Korean history is connected to Japan. If you specialize in Japan related articles, please join. It would be of a great help. Good friend100 15:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Pierre RossierEdit

Was Pierre Rossier really in Start class then; and if so, is it still there now? (Not that it has been changed much.) -- Hoary 23:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'd say it was, and it remains so, though probably on the verge of B-class. IMHO, a B-class article needs pictures and/or an infobox... It's a shame there's no class between "hey, that's a nice start" and "mostly complete, lots of pictures, requisite infoboxes, etc." I guess, considering the length of the article, and the prevalence of references and notes, it could be moved to B-class. But, particularly for a photographer, and one whose work is surely in the public domain, I hope we can find some images... LordAmeth 07:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm puzzled by this need for an infobox. In my humble experience, infoboxes may be useful for entities that are directly comparable (say, nations, with their respective areas, populations, GDPs, etc.). There's no infobox specially designed for photographers, and, while I haven't looked very extensively, I've never seen one used for a photographer. So let's look at another creative person, Charles Dickens (an article to which I haven't contributed in any way). His infobox gives us a photo (for which an infobox is of course unnecessary), tells us that he is "Acclaimed as one of the most famous authors that ever lived" (in which "that ever lived" is superfluous, and which degrades him to a mere celeb, acclaimed merely for fame rather than quality, etc.), tells us the dates of his birth and death and the fact that he was a novelist (all of which info also appears in the very first sentence), and also tells us his places of birth and death (info that again is supplied within the article, tho' not so conspicuously, and that has little or no bearing on his notability). I'm whelmed. Meanwhile, the magnificent article on Sicilian Baroque (for example) managed to become a Featured Article without the added charms (?) of a single infobox. -- Hoary 07:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Good point. For such a topic I suppose you're perfectly right to not feel the need for an infobox. Some people at WikiProject:Biography added notes that several of my articles needed infoboxes, and the same issue came up - the information contained within is mostly irrelevant and/or very easily found in the text. I'm going to go move your article up to B-class. Still, if any images were obtainable, it'd be wonderful. LordAmeth 21:21, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Images have been procured. Pinkville 01:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

As I'm not the author of the article, no modesty inhibits me from gleefully pointing out that it has come up in the world since it was a mere "start". Pinkville roolz OK. -- Hoary 09:55, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships RESULTSEdit

Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships
  • Question 1: Do you feel that other Wikipedians are as nice (or as horrible!) as when you started editing Wikipedia as a registered user?
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  • Question 3: Are admins as nice as you think they should be? If you're an admin, try to be truthful...
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Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships - RESULTS

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  • Question 1: Of the 14 editors to answer Q1; 3 editors (21%) chose option A), 6 editors (43%) chose option B), 2 editors (14%) chose option C), 1 editor (7%) chose option D) & 2 editors (14%) chose option E), saying "People need to be nicer to one another. The other site I tend to inhabit is much more civil, and always has been" & "It really depends on the individual; some are as nice as ever while others have acquired noticeably dourer dispositions."
  • Question 2: Of the 7 editors to answer Q2; 3 editors (43%) chose option A), 2 editors (29%) chose option B) & 2 editors (29%) chose option D), saying "The focus needs to be more on building the encyclopedia, and less on internal politics, in my opinion" & "Passive aggressiveness is more prominent than before."
  • Question 3: Of the 14 editors to answer Q3; 4 editors (29%) chose option A), 2 editors (14%) chose option C), 3 editors (21%) chose option D) & 5 editors (36%) chose option E), saying "Admins need to realize their behaviors reflect on the entire Wikipedia community" & "Again, it depends on the individual" & "Administrators are not as professional as they should be."
  • Question 4: Of the 14 editors to answer Q4; 8 editors (57%) chose option A), 5 editors (36%) chose option C) & 1 editor (7%) chose option E), saying "It depends on the definition of "serious". I've been involved in some that got fairly acrimonious, but mostly over things that might be considered relatively trivial in some quarters."
  • Question 5: Of the 14 editors to answer Q5; 1 editor (7%) chose option A), 11 editors (79%) chose option B) & 2 editors (14%) chose option D), saying "Yes but it was overturned" & "I was blocked by accident when someone hacked my email."
  • Question 6: Of the 14 editors to answer Q6; 5 editors (36%) chose option A), 7 editors (50%) chose option B) & 2 editors (14%) chose option C).
  • Question 7: Of the 14 editors to answer Q7; 8 editors (57%) chose option A), 4 editors (29%) chose option C) & 2 editors (14%) chose option E), saying "For the most part, yes" & "Yes, but not always (but more than 'Sometimes')."
  • Question 8: Of the 14 editors to answer Q8; 5 editors (36%) chose option A), 6 editors (43%) chose option B), 2 editors (14%) chose option C) & 1 editor (7%) chose option E), saying "Only to deal with real life time consuming things."
  • Question 9: Of the 14 editors to answer Q9; 9 editors (64%) chose option A), 1 editor (7%) chose option B), 3 editors (21%) chose option C), & 1 editor (7%) chose option E), saying "I suppose I have, but not directly. I haven't spoken to someone directly and said, okay let's work on this together."
  • Question 10: Of the 14 editors to answer Q10; 2 editors (14%) chose option A), 7 editors (50%) chose option B), 4 editors (29%) chose option C) & 1 editor (7%) chose option D).

Hope you enjoy the results which you, the editors of Wikipedia, changed in every way. Have a ncie day! -- Spawn Man 10:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history Newsletter - Issue VII - September 2006Edit

The September 2006 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

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SOAS Students' UnionEdit

I am new to editinin Wiki and I was hoping you could help me out on SOAS Students' Union.ExULstudent 8:49, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid I've only just now arrived at SOAS, and know very little about the Union or its history. But I wish you luck... it really sucks to have one of your first and only articles marked for deletion - I wish I could help you out. LordAmeth 11:45, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Red River CampaignEdit

You can check out the Red River Campaign article, current version. I just joined the Wiki Military Project, and my area of expertise is the "Trans-Mississippi Department" of the Civil War -- Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Missouri. User:Mpleahy 19:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


Would you take a look at my changes to Oita Prefecture and Oita, Oita (discussed here)? Am I on the right track? Cheers, Bobo12345 08:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Boshin WarEdit

Thanks for the heads-up on the battles of the Boshin War. It was nice to see that at least someone is interested. The articles in Japanese do have quite a bit of information, so I inter-wikied them for future reference. Regards. PHG 13:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


If you are going to update please follow the instructions, update the whole template and notify the creator of the article; its all explained on the page.--Peta 08:44, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that. My browser crashed in the middle of the update, and I guess I didn't finish the whole process. Incidentally, I did mean to inform the creator of the article, but FYI that step is not included in the [[Wikipedia::Did you know/Guide|Guide to Updating DYK]]. LordAmeth 08:51, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


  On 5 October, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Taguchi Ukichi, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Peta 00:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Request for new article assessmentEdit

You originally gave my Zhou Tong (Shaolin Monk) page a class rating of "B". I have since then made some HUGE changes to the page. I would like to see if the article is still "B"-class or better. Please keep in mind its a "Work-in-Progress". I change the article as new information comes along. But don't worry, I won't be making any more gigantic changes like I did recently. Thanks. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 22:19, 7 October 2006 (UTC))

It looks like you have done quite a bit of further research; I love it when Wikipedia can be the place that separate research finally comes together to present a full picture of a topic. However, while you have quite a number of sources, and a good length overall, each individual section is no more than a few sentences. In any case, if you'd like to go for A-class status, feel free to nominate your article at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment; Good-article and Featured-article nomination have their own processes as well. Good luck! And keep up the good work. LordAmeth 00:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Nakamura Kanzaburo pictureEdit

The problem is with the phrase: Image taken from, the webmaster of which, Shoriya Asagoro, grants permission for use of all images for purely non-commercial purposes

which means it isn't free enough for wikipedia.

Wikipedia is an educational and free source. It is non-commercial. LordAmeth 12:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
however many of our reusers are not.Geni 15:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


Google "Tessai" for me and tell me what the first results you get are. I get Ninja Scroll, Ninja Scroll, DJ Tessai, Tomioka Tessai, and Ninja Scroll. Google image is even more skewed in the anime character's direction. I'm not saying that google should determine the importance of something, but it does a pretty good job of determining the popularity of things.

If you don't agree that a redirect should take people searching for "Tessai" straight to Ninja Scroll, at the very least it should be apparent that some kind of disambiguation page would work better than an architect that as far as I know has nothing to do with that character. -Insomniac By Choice

Tessai is just one character in the anime, right? And he's not even the main character, right? He doesn't even have his own article. If "Tessai" were a synonym for "Ninja Scroll", or if it were linking to his own devoted article, I'd be much more likely to see your subject as having equal priority. But that's not the case.

Ask anyone in the Japanese art world, or any academic in Japanese culture and history in general, and I can practically guarantee they'll know more about Tomioka Tessai (a fairly major Edo/Meiji period painter) than about the character in Ninja Scroll. I happen to be a fan of the anime, btw, and I'm fully in support of discussing it on the page devoted to Yagyu Jubei. But any art historian will refer to Tomioka Tessai as simply "Tessai"; just as Hiroshige, Hokusai, and all of the Kanō school artists are often known by simply their given names... Google results can skew the view, since popular culture is, well, so popular - there are tons and tons of anime fansites out there. But again, I can practically guarantee that any Japanese encyclopedia, or other academic/scholarly source will list Tomioka Tessai without so much as a "for the Ninja Scroll character, see...". As Tomioka Tessai is currently, as far as I am aware, the only "Tessai" to have his own article, I think things should be left as is. If you want to create a separate article for the Ninja Scroll character (if there even is enough to be said about him to warrant a whole article), I would be happy to create a neutral disambig page linking to both articles. LordAmeth 16:20, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

None of the other characters have their own pages and there's not a character section for it as of now so no, I'm not going to write an article just for him. However, this is the internet and there's a reason that DBZ and Wrestling pages are so fleshed out while actually important historical figures are neglected. The internet skews the importance of things, but wikipedia is not a Japanese encyclopedia, it's an internet encyclopedia. If you want to sit on Tomioka Tessai's page and edit it, feel free, but at the very least add a "If you are looking for the anime character Tessai, please go to the Ninja Scroll article" or however the generic wording for that goes for all of the internet people who might be looking for cannibalistic Japanese rock golems. -Insomniac By Choice 20:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
If that'd make you happy, I will absolutely go ahead and do it. But Wikipedia is not an "internet encyclopedia" as if it were intended to only represent the internet, or to only represent what's more popular among those who use the internet. Wikipedia, like nearly any other encyclopedia, is meant to be a world encyclopedia - it should cover everything from history to science to literature to popular culture. The reason you point out for wrestling and Dragon Ball to be more fleshed out than proper history is what we on Wikipedia call systemic bias, and we have a number of projects and guidelines and movements towards Countering Systemic Bias. LordAmeth 00:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

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assessment for Joint Combined Exchange TrainingEdit

Just dropping a couple of notes. Thanks for assessing those two articles, and extra thanks for the B rating, was better than I expected. It was especially nice to see a comment by you in both which is a more personal touch that what is afforded most articles of that size and nature when being assessed.

And, as a curiosity, who is it who is permitted to assess an article? I'm sure self assessment is frowned upon, but otherwise?

Thanks again, --SGGH 11:08, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Self-assessment kind of breaks the system, but I'd say if you put a stub template on something, it's definitely a stub and you can self-assess it. Other than that, anyone who's a member of the project can assess things. Personally, whenever I assess things for WP:MILHIST, I put the same assessment down for whatever other WikiProjects are applicable - consistency of ranking. But I dunno how appropriate that is... LordAmeth 18:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
And I'm glad you liked that I put comments; I try to explain my reasoning, particularly since the assessment ranks are so subjective. But I worry sometimes that I'm being too harsh, or too overly formal - like "who is this LordAmeth to tell me what to do with my article? Why doesn't he fix it himself?" Anyway... I'm just glad to help out in whatever little ways. LordAmeth 18:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
They should all do it, i certainly will if I ever do one day assess an article.--SGGH 09:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Macron alterationsEdit

Might I just bring your attention to the fact that each time you "correct" the macron spelling of Japanese warhships you turn good links into red ones. I suggest that you review all your recent alterations for cases where this has happened. You will see that I have fixed one or two cases and by use of "piping" a macroned name can be used without altering the link.

Also see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)#Article titles and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)

GraemeLeggett 13:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention; I do recognize the problem. But piping only creates more work once the articles have actually been moved - then the piping has to be removed in each and every one of their articles. I am looking into ways to move (rename) articles en masse, which I hope to accomplish soon. Also, I am hoping to spur the editors/creators of those articles to move their own articles to the proper spellings. I do not wish to create trouble or problems for anyone - I am not a malicious sort. My working philosophy is that this is the most efficient way to have article links already say what they need to say, and once articles are moved, the majority of links to their new, macronned, names will already be in place. LordAmeth 16:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately that is doing it "arse about face". You should move the articles first which keeps the links working and then update the links in the articles. There are also various bots running which will find the redirect and sort it out for you. In some cases such as the more famous japanese ships an unmacronned name probably counts as the "English version" but that's a personal opinion. That macrons don't display properly on my computer is an irritation I live with. GraemeLeggett 09:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Ooh. I'm sorry the macrons don't show up right on your machine - I hadn't even thought of that. But I have since moved quite a number of articles and templates, and requested the category moves. LordAmeth 09:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Hitomi HyugaEdit

Hey, the MOS states that names of people use the romanizations that the people are best known by, NOT the macron ones.

If Hitomi Hyuga is seen on the BR Tartan DVDs, Wikipedia should use Hitomi Hyuga. WhisperToMe 22:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I was really doing my best to keep my eyes out for characters from anime & video games, to leave them unmacronned. Gomen. LordAmeth 09:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Mongol Invasions of JapanEdit

Hey, I just wanted to bring this up again as I noticed the discrepancy between these two articles still exists. In the article Mongol invasions of Japan in the section that discusses the Battle of Bun'ei it states that the Mongols outnumbered the Samurai there. In the article on the battle itself, it states the Samurai outnumbered the Mongols. I was still curious as to which piece of information is correct. I am not meaning to be a pest, just curious. Caris42 03:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry; you're not being a pest at all. this is one of those many things which I've said I'd look into and have forgotten to. Based on the two books I have available here (Turnbull & Sansom), the matter remains unclear. Neither give any actual numbers for the Japanese side, nor even really mention the idea of whether or not they were outnumbered. But Sansom does explain that the Dazaifu command in charge of Kyushu had some advance warning, and he does imply that nearly all of Kyushu's warriors were present at this battle. I'm going to change the main invasion article. Thanks for reminding me about this. LordAmeth 08:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you so much for giving me the update on this, I really appreciate it, I don't know why, but I was just really curious about this. Caris42 16:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Barnsensu AwardEdit

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw you didn't already have this. Anyway, here you go:

  WikiProject Japan Barnsensu Award
I award you with this Barnsensu for services to WikiProject Japan and Japanese articles in general, particularly the tedious and thankless task of macronising Japanese terms. Your efforts are much appreciated!

Bobo12345 07:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Awesome. I mean, どうもありがとうございます。 I humbly accept your honorable and generous offer of a Barnsensu. LordAmeth 08:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Kyūshū Railway CompanyEdit

I see that you moved Kyushu Railway Company to Kyūshū Railway Company. I decided against doing this one myself because it's a company name and if you look at their website, they use "Kyushu" all the time... Bobo12345 23:11, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry about that. I was considering skipping it for that very reason, but I figured since it's a place name... Should it be put back? (I did the same for Hokkaido Railway Company, Kyushu Shinkansen and Hokkaido Shinkansen.) LordAmeth 23:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I think for consistancy we should change them back. If we don't it'll only come back to bite us when somebody brings the issue up again over at the WP:MOS-JP. Bobo12345 23:32, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, this is all getting very confusing but the Kyushu Shinkansen has it's own official website in English where it uses "Kyushu Shinkansen" so I think that is what we have to use on Wikipedia. The Hokkaidō Shinkansen on the other hand doesn't seem to have an official website, nor is it referred to from the webpage of JR Hokkaido, so are we free to call it the "Hokkaidō Shinkansen"? But if the parent company is non-macronised then its shinkansen project must surely be non-macronised too?? What do you think? Bobo12345 08:09, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I think that if it's a place name which would be macronned in other contexts, it should be macronned here too. But it all depends on whether we are interpreting this as a place name or a company name. If it's a company name, then we should be consistent with other company names and leave it unmacronned. LordAmeth 08:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
It seems that this issue has also popped up on the WP:MOS-JP talk page so I'll copy it over there for us all to argue about, *cough*, sorry, discuss over there. Bobo12345 08:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Lol. Sure. LordAmeth 08:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Boshin WarEdit

Boshin War is now a Featured Article Candidate. You are invited to post you votes at the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates page. Best regards. PHG 16:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!PHG 21:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Absolutely. LordAmeth 21:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


The use of weasel words you advocated on the WP:WEASEL talk page is allowed under the exceptions where the holders of the view is too numerous and diverse to quantify. This can be in a large population group like China or in a small group of scholars if they are sufficiently diverese. Although I should not comment on other users, I feel I must warn you that Cbuhl, has been posting the same language from WP:NPOV all over this project and will not listen to other users who are informing him that he is misreading the policy. Ramsquire 22:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, alright. Thank you for letting me know. It's easy to assume that the one person you're talking to represents the view of the whole. I'm pretty much done talking about the issue, anyway. I've said my piece, and now I'm just going to go back to what I normally do, and hope I don't attract anyone's ire. LordAmeth 23:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VIII - October 2006Edit

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  On October 26, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Shō Shōken, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:13, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


I think I mostly agree with what you're saying. You should cite references as often and as well as you are able, but unless you're editing a particularly controversial article (like abortion), don't be afraid to be bold in making edits that you feel improve the article, and not worry about defending EVERYTHING in advance of being challenged, as long as you're willing to discuss edits with other editors, and work to find the references necessary if other editors question unsourced materials. Cbuhl79 19:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Citing and Attributing SourcesEdit

It appears that a lot of the biographies that have been added verbatim from the Samurai Archives ( ) (see end of comment for a few example links), do not cite their source. These entries should either be properly rewritten and cited or deleted until such time that someone can do actual research on them to maintain the high standards of wikipedia. There is no attribution that they are taken from the Samurai Archives, where they had been translated and researched. The following are only a miniscule few of many, many examples: from: from: from: from:

What would be the best way to proceed? It's obviously not a fault on your end, as keeping track of all the Japan related articles on wikipedia would be too great a task. Nagaeyari 03:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, that explains a lot of the stylistic issues I was having with so many of these articles. If they're copied verbatim from another context, no one would have taken the time to change them to be more appropriate to Wikipedia. If they're copyright violations (plaigiarism), then I guess the best thing to do would be to label them as such, and mark them to be deleted. We could also simply post something to this effect at the WikiProjects and hope that people chip in to do the proper research and fix up the articles. Though you're right that I certainly can't presume to keep track of everything ^_^ I do appreciate you coming to me on this. Thanks. LordAmeth 07:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Here are some recent examples: This was posted to the new "SamuraiWiki" first on the 23rd of this month: Ashina Morikiyo and suddenly a day later, it appears here: Ashina Morikiyo almost verbatim. The article for Naritomi Shigeyasu Naritomi Shigeyasu also shows up in nearly the same format: Naritomi Shigeyasu. I'm glad this was brought to our attention. I'm really finding the contributor's efforts questionable at best. (Edit: I actually just noticed on the "home page" of the "samurai wiki" it states basically a statement/request not to use as a source for wikipedia without full atribution. So my guess is that they are aware of this issue and want to make it clear that the current "situation" brought to our attention is unacceptable).
Yes, I see who it is now - I've discussed other problems with this fellow in the past, and he seems genuine about trying to do better, and then he doesn't actually follow through. (Or maybe he does in his newer articles, and doesn't go back to fix his old articles.) I think, assuming that he (or someone else) does not continue to create articles in this fashion, we can either speedy delete all the existing ones that pose a problem, or go through all of them, you and I and whoever else we can recruit, to fix them as best as we can to reflect a more original writing style (original content). LordAmeth 13:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Please see my take on this at the military history talk page.

Thanks -- 23:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Nagaeyari - I've spoken with a few people on the Military History WikiProject, and I'm fully prepared to start labeling these articles copyright violations and deleting them. I should be able to find them pretty easily, and take care of it; but if you have a more complete list, it would certainly make things easier. Let me know if you do, or if you have anything else to contribute. Thanks again for getting the ball rolling on this; I've been staring at those articles for months, shaking my head at how poorly executed they were. LordAmeth 23:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Articles Needing Copyvio LabelsEdit

I'm going side by side with the biographical dictionary at the Samurai-Archives. The following is very surprising - the articles below were not put together by bringing together multiple sources from the Samurai Archives, but are just taken directly from the entires in the Biographical dictionary, all listed here nearly word for word:

(also, if you compare wiki entries vs. the S-A dictionary, you'll see that the contributor re-worded the articles into poor English grammar as well)

  • Abe Katsuyoshi
  • Adachi Tokiaki --reworded, same concept
  • Adachi Yasumori --nearly identical and uncited
  • Akai Terukage
  • Akaike Nagato
  • Akamatsu Masanori
  • Akamatsu Norifusa
  • Akazawa Tomotsune
  • Akechi Mitsukuni
  • Akechi Mitsutada
  • Amakasu Kagemochi --first half is blatant steal
  • Amako Hisayuki
  • Amakusa Hisatane --reference? Nope...all out source
  • Amano Takashige --has small details the S-A doesn't have but most is taken from the former. Needs source note
  • Amari Masatada --reference? Nope...all out source
  • Anayama Nobutomo
  • Ashina Morikiyo
  • Fujii Kogen --this one is based on a biography that states that the sources need to be checked - i.e. it is marked as unreliable info.
  • Naritomi Shigeyasu
  • Ijuin Tadamune
  • Iriki-in Shigetoki
  • Kajiwara Kagetoki
  • Ando Morinari
  • Anegakoji Yoritsuna
  • Anegakoji Yoshiyori
  • Anemori Yayoi
  • Anzai Sanemoto
  • Aochi Shigetsuna --referenced? It's all source material
  • Araki Yukishige
  • Arima Noriyori
  • Arima Toyouji
  • Arima Yoshisada
  • Asahina Nobuoki
  • Asakura Kageakira --needs sources
  • Asakura Kagetoshi
  • Asakura Norikage
  • Asari Nobutane --needs to put S-A as source
  • Ashida Nobumori
  • Ashikaga Haruuji --S-A is not a's the whole source
  • Ashikaga Yoshiaki (Shimosa) --Source! not reference
  • Ashina Moritaka --needs to supply S-A as source
  • Atagi Fuyuyasu --listed as's the source
  • Ayukawa Kiyonaga --direct from S-A, even has typo on date
  • Miyoshi Yoshikata --identical with very minor rewording
  • Mikumo Shigemochi - copied, but re-written with errors
  • Miura Tokitaka - copied with a few different words substitued
  • Miyabe Nagahiro - copied, a few word changed
  • Baba Yorichika
  • Bessho Harusada
  • Bessho Yoshiharu
  • Chiba Shigetane
  • Chiba Tanetomi
  • Chosokabe Chikatada
  • Chosokabe Morichika --needs source information
  • Chosokabe Motochika
  • Chosokabe Nobuchika
  • Daidōji Masashige
  • Date Sanemoto
  • Emura Chikatoshi
  • Endo Motonobu
  • Endo Munenobu
  • Endo Taneshige
  • Enjoji Nobutane --blatant steal from S-A
  • Fujimaru Katsutoshi
  • Fujita Nobuyoshi
  • Fukubara Hirotoshi --needs to cite S-A
  • Fukushima Masashige
  • Fukushima Masayori --blatant S-A steal
  • Fukutomi Hidekatsu
  • Furuta Shigekatsu
  • Fuwa Mitsuharu
  • Gamo Hideyuki
  • Gamo Ujisato
  • Godai Tomoyoshi --reference? no, it's source
  • Goto Motokuni
  • Goto Takaharu
  • Goto Ujifusa
  • Hachisuka Iemasa
  • Hachisuka Masakatsu
  • Hachisuka Yoshishige
  • Haigo Ieyoshi
  • Hajikano Gengoro
  • Hajikano Masatsugu
  • Hanabusa Masayuki
  • Hara Masatane
  • Hara Toratane
  • Hara Torayoshi
  • Harada Nobutane
  • Hasegawa Akishige
  • Hatakeyama Sadamasa
  • Nanbu Toshinao
  • Yuki Hideyasu - everything but a minor video game bit at the end.
  • Hatakeyama Takamasa
  • Hatakeyama Yoshitsugu
  • Hatakeyama Yukishige --clearly S-A
  • Hattori Masanari
  • Hayashi Shinjiro
  • Hinarasu --oh, goodness. I freaking WROTE this. It took forever to compile.
  • Hineno Takayoshi
  • Hiraga_Tomomasa --no source. Apparently not S-A. Most likely Turnbull
  • Hiraiwa Chikayoshi
  • Hiraoka Michiyori
  • Hirose Kagefusa --clearly S-A work
  • Hisamatsu Sadakatsu
  • Hisatake Chikanao
  • Hishijima Kunisada
  • Honda Tadatsugu
  • Honda Yasutoshi
  • Hongo Tadatora
  • Honjo Hidetsuna
  • Honjo Tsunemitsu
  • Hori Hideharu
  • Horie Kagetada
  • Honda Hirotaka
  • Honda Masanobu --needs to cite S-A, blatant
  • Honda Masazumi
  • Honda Narishige
  • Hoshina Masanao
  • Hoshina Masatoshi
  • Hoshina Masamitsu
  • Maeno Nagayasu
  • makara Naotaka - blatant
  • Makino Sadanari - questionable
  • Marume Nagayoshi
    • Here is a good example of a typical "entry": Samurai archives - Nagayoshi was a retainer of the Sagara family of Higo Province. He is said to have met the wandering swordsman Kamiizumi Nobutsuna and studied under him, later forming his own school of swordsmanship on Kyushu. Wikipedia: Maruma Nagayoshi (1540-1629) was a retainer of the Japanese clan of Sagara of Hizen province during the Sengoku Period of the 16th century, extending to the 17th century of the Edo Period. It is said that Nagayoshi ran into the famous swordsman known as Kamiizumi Nobutsuna and began training under him. Nagayoshi later established his own school of swordsmanship at Kyūshū.
  • Masaki Tokitada
  • Matsudaira Tadamoto
  • Matsudaira Yasunaga
  • Matsumae Yoshihiro
  • Matsumoto Kageshige - looks like we found the source the template was looking for.
  • Matsushita Yukitsuna
  • Menju Ieteru --blatant
  • Mera Suketsuku -- samurai archives, not "nobunaga's ambition"
  • Minowa Shigezumi --word for word
  • Miura Yoshimoto

Basically, looking at this contributors history, it looks like he would hit a page of the "biographical dictionary", and take 3-4 from the same page in a short amount of time. and then do it again after a few days. More recently, it appears that some have come from the Samurai Wiki Nearly all of his contributions contain identical information in the same order, however sentences are just slightly reworded - so I won't bother to write an "explanation" after every name anymore unless there are different circumstances.

Nagaeyari 00:27, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

More will be added tomorrow, there are still a lot to go.
It's up to you. It is a lot of work, and I can use AWB to do a lot of the searching and auto-inserting tags. Whatever you'd like. I'm heading to bed now, but I shall take care of, at the very least, these A's, in the morning. ありがとう。おやすみ。LordAmeth 00:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Alright; I've loaded up the list of his contributions. I didn't realize how long this was going to be... I have a copy of the Samurai Sourcebook, and it happens to be one of my foremost sources as well; I feel bad to simply blank so many articles, so I am trying to reword those best as I can to not be copyvios. But all the Samurai Archives ones and the Samurai Wiki ones I'm going to blank as copyvios. Most of those are majorly short stubs anyway, so it's no huge loss. LordAmeth 07:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I've left another message for Darin Fidika. He sounds really geniune in his acknowledgement of his mistakes and his desire to fix it. I realize we've given him a half dozen chances already (how many times have I told him that "Japanese" should be capitalized, and that "following" does not mean "during"?), but I would like to give him just one more chance to turn this around himself. If it were me, I'd hate to see my articles deleted or changed en masse right after I said that I would take care of it... So, we'll see what happens in a day or two. Unless Kirill or someone else, has another idea, or wants to take this unto themselves? Whatever you want to do, I'll back you up. LordAmeth 07:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
The problem being, those aren't his articles, so he really shouldn't justifiably feel bad about having them deleted. Considering that the ones listed are taken from the Samurai Archives, and that was the exclusive source for them, (meaning that it is highly unlikely that he'll be able to find any other sources to coroborate or add to any of his articles) it is tantamount to a copy and paste. I think we should remove them. I have to agree with the person who posted the long message about his "point of view".

I only made it to around the I's in the you can imagine how many more articles there are that were stolen. I agree with you that to just void that many seems counterproductive for Wikipedia--but keeping them until a user finds more Japanese research doesn't sound like a good idea. Or even *possible*. Really, he's had his twelve and a half chances. Of course, if his interest is Japan, then he can study, learn, and benefit by creating new bios in the future. I am not in the position of power that you're in, so it's easy for me to suggest these thoughts, though. Either way, if this was found in a real encyclopedia, the editors wouldn't wait for someone to try to get their act together. Nagaeyari 14:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I sincerely apologize to keep flip-flopping on this issue; I agree with you completely that things should not be copied and pasted from another cite verbatim, and any references must be properly cited. I began going through these articles, but I came to the realization that you cannot copyright historical fact, only the verbatim way in which it is written. I am cleaning up the grammar and writing style of these articles, mangled in any case from you'd originally written, and adding whatever I can from my own sources, as well as citing the Samurai-Archives properly. (If you would like it be to be cited differently, I can certainly do that. As of right now, I'm citing it as "West, C.E. and F.W. Seal (2005). "The Samurai Archives," which includes a link to the site.) It's easier, and far more productive to turn these articles into something useful and meaningful than to simply delete them. LordAmeth 18:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Unfortnunately you are setting the official precident that it is now OK to copy and paste everything and anything from the Samurai Archives to wikipedia as long as you change the wording. Unless an article has more than one source, I do not think it can be considered "historical fact", and as such, unless all of these hundreds of articles can be added to by more than just one article on the samurai archives, I believe they should be deleted. A wikipedia article from one single source is not verifiable, and thus should not be included in wikipedia. Lastly, as it stands, this is nothing more than a duplication of the work of the samurai archives - and for what? Who does that benefit? I don't like the precident that we are setting here, and I stand by my firm belief that these articles should be deleted until such time as we can get two or more sources for each article. It is definately not counterproductive to void them, in fact it is very productive. Like I said, this has all been taken from a single source, and is therefore unverifiable, and so goes against the rules of wikipedia, and against the rules of reasonable conduct in utilizing something as a "source." - sorry for the bolding, but I don't want my message lost in all this.
Can you explain why it's being cited as the "Reference"? Isn't it the source? What is the wikipedia rule on this? Nagaeyari 18:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't think it's a matter of Wikipedia rules, it just seems more common to use "References" instead of "Sources". I'm listing it under References because I'm referring to what you've written, and to other sources, in rewriting these articles. If it really matters to you, I can put them under "Sources". But as far as I'm concerned, Sources, References, and Works Cited are pretty much used interchangeably in this context, even though they have somewhat different true meanings. LordAmeth 18:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I was just curious for future writing. Nagaeyari 18:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

LordAmeth, there's another message above in bold...just letting you know so you don't miss it. I just found it. Nagaeyari 20:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

So, you're saying that the information on Samurai Archives can't be trusted? That it cannot be relied on as a historical source? I do feel bad for the idea that someone else is making easy use of your hard work, but as I said, you cannot copyright historical facts. I am rewriting these articles, many of them completely around, changing the wording, the phrasing nearly 100%, thus making it, technically, a completely new and original creative work; in essence, a new copyright. But more to the point than all of that, I simply do not have the time or the energy to tag all of these articles and label them for deletion etc etc. I do invite you to visit WP:Copyright problems, and to recruit some help there. There are editors, admins, who choose to focus on remedying these kinds of issues, and I trust that they will help you work this out to everyone's benefit. I do apologize, but Wikipedia is a hobby for me, not a job, and I'm afraid I simply cannot give time and effort to this pursuit. I'm sorry I could not help you resolve your problems, and I hope that in the end things can be worked out in a way that is satisfying to you. LordAmeth 22:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, just saw this, I wasn't sure if you were talking to me or not. I can't vouch for the info on the samurai archives, my point is, since the info can't be verified, should we be using it as an exclusive source or not? Fears of copyright aside, do internet web pages count as valid source material? I see some of the entries are cited on the samurai archives site, but some have none. I'm concerned about our sources here, on wikipedia. Does using an internet source invalidate an article or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])
You misunderstand me. I did not mean to imply that I thought the samurai archives were a poor source, I was asking if you did. I trust these guys completely to be professional and to provide accurate information. They cite their sources elsewhere in the site, and everything that I can verify from the sources in front of me is perfectly accurate, and handled properly and academically. I really don't think we should discount webpages as sources, particularly those created using proper responsible research. I happen to be a student right now at a school which has possibly the best Asian area studies library in the entire country, but not everyone has access to such sources. Thus, I think resorting to webpages, ones that are properly cited and responsibly compiled, is perfectly fine. LordAmeth 08:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Regardless of if the info on the samurai archives site is valid or not, I think it is wrong to take (for example) a 2 paragraph entry on Joe Samurai, change the words around, and post it as a wikipedia article. If the content is the same, even if the words are different, that is just plain bad scholarship, since it is just a single source, and it is most definately not fair to the people who research and translate this information on the samurai archives website. I think we have a pandora's box here that this guy Darin was unfortunate enough to open. It can not be disputed that he took all of his articles directly and only from the samurai archives. My question is, is this fair use? I do not believe that it is. I have created a deletion page here for debate, since that seems the quickest way to force the issue:
Things with Darin should have never gotten this far. If we had noticed this 10 months ago, it could have been taken care of. Now people seem to be threatened by the thought of having to remove potentially over 100 articles. If they are poor scholarship or are not fair use, then we are better off without them, regardless of how many there are. Later on, when interested and responsible people want to create these articles with multiple sources, they will be welcome to do so. This has gotten way, way out of hand, and I think removing the articles until such time responsible and interested parties come along to do actual orginal work is best. --Monkeyheadster 21:58, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Monkey, you're absolutely right of course... I just hadn't realized they were copyvios or whatever; I just thought he had a very poor grasp of proper grammar and style. He's always so polite and regretful when you confront him on it, and he always says he wants to make it right, and then he never does... LordAmeth 22:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Is "rewriting these articles, many of them completely around, changing the wording, the phrasing nearly 100%, thus making it, technically, a completely new and original creative work; in essence, a new copyright." really a new copyright? It is still paraphrasing something essentially the same. It seems that copying and rewording an article is hardly "fair use." The following may be interesting in this discussion.

The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th Edition, 2003, p. 135-36.

Fair Use: Quoting Without Permission
Factors to be considered must include the following:

2. The nature of the copyrighted work
3. The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole

4.77 A few general rules
Fair use is use that is fair--simply that. Used that are tangential in purpose to the original, and used that transform the copied material by changing its context or the way it is perceived, will always be judged more leniently than those that merely parallel or parrot the original....Proportion is...important. Quoting five hundred words from an essay of five thousand is likely to be riskier than quoting that amount from work of fifty thousand....

4.80 Paraphrasing. Bear in mind that although fair use will protect verbatim copying, unfair use will not be excused by paraphrasing. Traditional copy-right doctrine treats extensive paraphrase as merely disguised copying. Thus, fair-use analysis will be the same for both.

-- 10:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Please feel free to take whatever actions you feel are necessary. Wikipedia:Copyright problems and other pages such as WP:AfD exist for these purposes. I am tired of discussing this, and I do apologize that I have not the time to take the necessary actions myself - labeling hundreds of articles for deletion. I wish you luck, and I hope that I may be permitted to wash my hands of this and move on. I did not copy these articles, I did not cite sources poorly; I am not the one to be arguing with. When I thought this was a small and simple problem, I was happy to help. But now that you wish to delete every single article that falls within your own conceptions of unfair use and plaigiarism, I'm afraid it has gone beyond the boundaries of what I have time and energy to deal with. LordAmeth 12:23, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

The lack of links makes this situation difficult to follow. I just wanted to point out that having a single source does not make an article a copyright violation. If an article uses many of the same sentences and phrases as a copyrighted article, then it may be a copyvio. But if the same facts are presented, but in the uploader's own words, then it isn't a copyvio. It's better to have multiple sources, but having a single source is not a reason to delete. – Quadell (talk) (random) 14:20, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Careful with macronsEdit

I think it would be good to make sure that whenever you macronize a link, that the linked page is moved first. I don't have access to AWB, so I don't know how hard this is to check, though. Anyway, I've noticed a couple of instances where this hasn't been done, and I'm sure there may be some more:

I'll make those two redirects tomorrow; but, I wanted to leave them as red links until after you see this message, in case you may be able to think of a way to check it when you run AWB. Regards. Neier 13:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It's not that it's difficult to check, it's difficult to do the moving. As far as I'm aware, there's no way to auto-move pages within AWB, so for each one of these I have to go through the manual process of loading the page, clicking on move, moving it to the new page... for each and every one. I've had this issue before, and I am hoping that other editors will soon begin to police their own pages and move them themselves. However, that said, every article I add to AWB is added to my watchlist, so when I go through them to remove them, I will move them. It may be a backwards way of doing it, but I promise it will get done within the next day or two, for every article that needs to be moved. Thank you for reminding me of this issue. LordAmeth 13:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
No problem. I noticed the other section above after I posted my message. I've done my share of "work in progress" changes that take awhile to resolve as well, so I understand what you're doing. It's good that you have a plan to fix things. I'll go ahead and take care of those two now. Neier 13:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
PS - Watch out for double-redirects, too. (Nikkou -> Nikko -> Nikkō) etc. Neier 13:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
PPS - and categorization sorting order (Tō is after Tx, Ty, Tz; so, the pipe trick is necessary on the moved articles) Neier 13:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Samurai deletionsEdit

I have closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abe Katsuyoshi as delete. I have a feeling there are still more such articles out there, so please, if you find more, put a list of links on my talk page and I will investigate. Mangojuicetalk 18:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

war horseEdit

You showed some interest in the topic of horses in warfare. There is an article, war horse, which in my opinion deserves lots of attention. I consider several of the facts mentioned there misinformation and the sourcing seems sometimes improper to me, as the aforementioned facts are not mentioned as such in the source (use of horses in Hastings). I had some arguements with its main editors and have little inclination to fight an edit war. As this is one of the central articles informing about horses in war, it should receive some attention. I would like to invite you to take a look and post some opinions. Wandalstouring 12:51, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Divisions and so forth...Edit

A bit surprised that you're suggesting going back to the adjective form for countries, all things considered. ;-)

In retrospect, it probably would have been a better idea to be more exhaustive when proposing the original mass renaming. Now, the new MILHIST naming convention is theoretically established, but enough categories still have the wrong name that trying to change them—especially in the face of opposition which seems to suddenly appear on arbitrary requests—is going to be a nightmare. :-( Kirill Lokshin 19:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

As I do not write on modern militaries, I ultimately leave all of this up to those who do. But I do think that the descriptor of "military divisions" or "army divisions" needs to be included. "Divisions of the United States" could just as easily refer to states, counties, regions (New England vs Mid-Atlantic), blue states vs red states as it could the military meaning. That said, this is only one of many unit category naming standards that has to be made to fit in with naming standards of other unit types... I've lodged my opinion, and if those who know better say I'm wrong, I shall absolutely let it rest. LordAmeth 19:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, divisions are something of a messy case, as they're not a particularly military word. Maybe a general conversion to "Military divisions" would work (if a little clumsily); "army divisions" would have problems with things like USMC or SS formations.
In any case, hopefully we'll be able to come to some reasonable conclusion without having to redo the entire naming scheme (again!). :-) Kirill Lokshin 19:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the helpEdit

I noticed you have assessing alot of WPMILHIST articles. I had kind of made it a goal to get that list down to zero at some point but it is a daunting task, especially with so many articles being added on a daily basis. With 2 people doing it on a regular basis maybe it is conceivable. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for the help.--Looper5920 00:28, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem. It's kind of relaxing really - gives me something to do when I'm not in the mood to do actual contributions. LordAmeth 08:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Um, Did you know...Edit

...that when you update the Main Page template, you are meant to replace all the entries, not just one? -- ALoan (Talk) 19:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Really? I was surprised to find that the previous updater had done all of them. I thought he was just being really bold. I really always thought that it was one-by-one... I guess no matter how hard I try I can never get this thing right. LordAmeth 00:45, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, no, we update all of them at the same time. But thanks for trying to help - why not have another go? -- ALoan (Talk) 12:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


Please don't add the {{stub}} tag to Categories. It doesn't apply to them. --Metropolitan90 04:04, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, AWB was doing that automatically. I'm sorry... I'm really trying to be more careful with this sort of thing. Promise. LordAmeth 12:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


You never visit, you never call! I'm beginning to think you're avoiding me? ;) You're still on my friend's list, but I hardly see any of you LA. I'm gonna be sending this to all of my buddies, cause nobody's dropping by... *Sigh*... Spawn Man 06:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Lol. Haven't been avoiding you, friend. Our paths simply have not happened to meet. What've you been up to? Anything exciting? LordAmeth 08:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Got terrible ratings at my RfA. Other than that, I'm just trying to get over 1000 edits this month... You? Spawn Man 00:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I'm sorry to hear about the RfA. As for myself, I've been arguing with people over macrons, and doing a lot of mass-edits to fix macrons. I actually do understand why some editors would be against the idea of the macrons, but what I don't get is why I always seem alone in everything I do. Why is no one else macronizing things? Why is no one else fixing up the hundreds of poor, stubby, articles on samurai? But I guess I shouldn't complain - being able to cover the topic on my own means I can do it my way, and topics aren't snatched out from under me often. ^_^ LordAmeth 08:25, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I've been having a dispute on the Nero article & its talk. The user is crazy!!!! Anyway, have a good week.... Spawn Man 00:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


You're changing Chuo → Chūō. Are you aware that Chuo is a Swahili word for 'story' and that it shouldn't be changed to Chūō in, e.g. Utenzi wa Shufaka? I happen to have that article on my watchlist, so I catched the error, but how can you be sure that literally all instances of Chuo in Wikipedia should be changed to Chūō? — mark 13:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I do apologize. "Chūō" is also Japanese for "center" or "middle", and there are literally hundreds of Japan-related articles in which this does need to be changed. I have been as careful as I can be with this, and when I looked quickly at the name "Untenzi wa Shufaka", and at its content, I mistook it for being a Japan-related article. I will be going over every article changed in this way a second time, and I hope to catch all the errors. As always, it is difficult to avoid mistakes when dealing with such a volume of articles. Sorry for the mixup, and thank you for bringing it to my attention. LordAmeth 13:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
No worries, glad you're going to doublecheck. — mark 13:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Careful with macronisationEdit

Hi there. I've just reverted your edits to Fukuoka, Fukuoka. I am aware of your macronising project and appreciate the reasons for it, but a lot of the edits you are making are breaking the page links. You really should move the target pages first and then think about moving the source links if you feel it's necessary otherwise many articles will end up broken. Ben W Bell talk 14:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I have discussed this issue with a number of other users. As I edit each article, it is added to my watchlist. I then go through every one of them and manually make the necessary moves or other changes that are necessary. I assure you, I promise promise promise that if you just give me some time to finish the process, I will take care of it all in the end, even if you do think I'm doing things backwards. LordAmeth 14:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I know I've had this conversation before, and I do think you're doing it backwards and it would be easier to move the target pages first, but fair enough. I'll revert my reverts and let them get changed, or if my headache clears up make the changes myself. Ben W Bell talk 14:18, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I understand. I really do. It's just so much easier to mass change all the articles that contain, for example, "chuo" instead of "chūō" than it is to guess ahead of time exatly which articles are going to be affected. If I were effecting the kind of change that affected only one article, of course I would move that article first. But as there are so many articles that need to be moved, I find it a lot easier to do it this way, moving and editing them straight off a single list (my watchlist, once AWB has added them there.) Of course, if other editors helped out, this wouldn't all be on my shoulders to begin with... (I don't mean you, Ben. I just mean people in general. How long has it been policy to include macrons in article titles? and how many simple, basic things like Tokaidō and Ōtsu still haven't been changed?)LordAmeth 14:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I've been foolishly stubborn about this, and I will try in future to move pages first. I have just moved a whole bunch of "Chuo" pages, hopefully I have caught all the relevant ones. It is not uncommon, however, to come across things that need moving while in the middle of processing a mass of articles... I will do my best to catch things before other editors get all in a tizzy ^_^ but as I have classes to go to and such, I cannot always promise that things will get changed or fixed immediately. Thank you again for bringing this to my attention, and for your patience with me. LordAmeth 14:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I've suggested here on the JMOS page that -ryu is, like Sumo, sufficiently familiar to warrant being left un-macronned. I appreciate the desire for consistency but feel this fits the description of something commonly given in un-macronned form. Your input there would be appreciated. JJL 14:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Ryukyu IslandsEdit

Just thought I'd bring your attention to the Ryukyu Islands article. It has just been changed back from the macronised form, a move I don't agree with. The move is discussed on the talk page. What's your opinion? Bobo12345 00:28, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I am so sick and tired of arguing over macrons. I just want things to be consistent with a standard. That's all. Whether that standard is to use "ou" and "uu", or to use macrons, or to use macrons only not in article titles, or to name article titles in kanji, I don't care, I just want things to be consistent and stable. I need to go find one of those little Wiki-thermometer pictures that indicates how fedup I am... :) LordAmeth 08:22, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I understand how you feel. To be honest, I'm not contributing to the argument over at the WP:MOS-JP because I don't think the discussion is at all productive. Nobody is proposing anything concrete, just sort of collectively whining. If there is a proposal to change the policy away from macrons, then I'll speak up to defend them but until then, I've got better things to do! PS. If you're feeling all alone with the macronising task, let me know which articles you'd like me to tackle. I've got AWB so it shouldn't be a problem. :) Bobo12345 09:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Aww. Thanks for the support, man. I'm just in a particularly bad mood today is all. I think it'll all be okay in the end... Deep breaths. And I think you're right. I need to stop getting involved in such discussions, it only serves to get me worked up. If you wouldn't mind dealing with the Chuo-->Chūō articles, I'd appreciate that. Just watch out for the few Swahili articles which don't need macrons (chuo is apparently swahili for story), and I've been avoiding changing the names of banks and companies... I'm almost done macronizing all the 道 (Nankaido, Hokkaido, Saikaido, Hokurikudo, Tokaido...). I think I might just take a break from all this macron nonsense for a few days and go back to my own little corner, with kabuki actors and samurai. Or, I might even get started on my thesis. Hm.... Wikipedia or actual work towards my degree... hmmmm. どうもありがとう。がんばってね。LordAmeth 10:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I had a crack at all the pages that were linking to the non-macronned Chuo ward articles and the Chuo train lines. I discovered Chuo University (which should stay demacroned because it's the official spelling) which I added to the diambiguation page. I also found a fair few double-redirects too, which I did my best to update. There seems to be a lot of trainline related Chuo articles still to do. I think they're branch lines of the main Chūō Line or something. Maybe that's best left to the trainspotters who know more about it? PS. I know how tempting the internet can seem when faced with your thesis! I was in exactly the same position as you a few years ago. Good luck! Bobo12345 12:26, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Clean up the sort keysEdit

Will you please start adding proper sort keys whenever you move an article, create an article or add a category, and also cleaning up after yourself as requested at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan#Cleanup needed. Gene Nygaard 16:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

If I were doing this manually, I absolutely would. And I always do watch out for these things. But, I am afraid, that the onus cannot fall soley on me to take care of this issue; if it were up to me alone, and I had to take care of all that stuff manually, none of this would ever get done. I have been talking on message boards all over the place, at various WikiProjects and other places, to try to convince others to help out in the macronization and cleanup effort. This is a hobby for me - I do it because I want to. There's a lot of work to be done here, and it's about time others start to help. I am not a vandal, nor am I an irresponsible editor. If you see an article that's become missorted or redlinked because of something I've done, please fix it. Just fix it. It's quicker and easier than coming and talking to me here, and it helps to spread the work around; things get done faster when more people cooperate. Thank you, Gene, though for your help and your hard work, always. LordAmeth 01:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
No. You fix it. You broke it, after all—in edits that likely total in the hundreds. That's the whole point. Yes, it would be nice if you would fix problems created by other people as well. But the important thing is for you to go back and fix the problems you yourself have created. That's what a "responsible editor" would do. I certainly wouldn't characterize your past edits as vandalism. That won't necessarily hold with respect to future edits, of course. Gene Nygaard 03:52, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Gene, if you can show me a specific list of articles that need fixing, I will help fix them. However, I will not randomly search through his many contributions looking for possible matches. You seem to know which articles need fixing, so if you will let me know, I will try to help fix them. Bendono 04:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Likewise, if you tell me which articles needs fixing, I can fix it just as well. As I said, I'm really not trying to be a poor editor, and I do not want to be on your "watch list" for "another of those names which routinely crops up in connection with badly created or badly moved" articles. Please, give me a chance to fix this - just let me know where the problem is. I have truly been trying hard to avoid these kinds of errors in my editing, but inevitably some things fall through the cracks. Honestly, I just don't like the idea of anyone watching out for me because they think I'm the type to intentionally make trouble. I really do not think that this discussion is productive, and I hope we can all work this out cooperatively without raising further tensions or enmity between us, all hardworking and well-meaning editors. LordAmeth 08:52, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Your user contributions are a likely starting place. Or, to narrow it down and find many of the problem ones, look at your [move log]. You got the one done today, so just look at any of the others which include any letters that are not part of the 26 letters we sort by. Bendono just added soprt keys to the next to last one; the one before had a sort key in place which LordAmeth didn't change.
But the one before that doesn't have the sort key. The next one likely would have had it wrong, had anybody had enough sense to put it into any categories (other than the template-added stub categories, which I ignore). The next one was the example I pointed out on the other talk page; Bendono just fixed that one. The next two have not been fixed. So just check everything else earlier than that as well.
Then look at articles you have created. Or edit summaries where you mention adding categories. Gene Nygaard 15:50, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
NB: I was skipping the talk pages and user pages in my counting, just using the main namespace ones. If the talk pages have categories, it is either housekeeping (WikiProjects, deletion and move related, etc), usually added by templates, or a mistake because somebody didn't know to put a colon at the beginning of an intended wikilink link to a category. Nothing that we really need to bother with. Gene Nygaard 16:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I specifically asked for a concrete list. The issue seemed really important to you, so I thought that you had a specific idea about which articles needed fixing. However, it seems you are not aware of specific problems but are rather randomly searching for problems. My offer to help is still available if you can direct me to specific articles that need attention. Until then, I do not think there is an issue to deal with right now. Bendono 00:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Cool. I hadn't thought of looking for a move log. That makes things a lot easier. I'll get started on that. Thanks again for your patience, and I hope we can continue to work together amicably and cooperatively in future. LordAmeth 00:56, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Something else to keep in mind is to fix double redirects when moving articles. It looks like you may be taking care of it already, but from the MoS talk page I noticed some of the links to Isshin-ryū are broken. It hasn't been fixed yet. This one article probably just fell through the cracks; but, it's worth a mention. Neier 10:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

from Eikoh Hosoe to Eikō HosoeEdit

On this five-day-old page move of yours:

  1. The list of what links to [[Eikō Hosoe]] includes eight articles (as opposed to talk pages and automatically generated stuff) that still link to [[Eikoh Hosoe]]. I'm surprised that you didn't alter those links: when I move pages, I do change any article link that points to the old page. (An example just today: my work on what I'd just renamed shinjū.)
  2. Hosoe is the director (or head or boss or something) of Kiyosato Museum of Photographic Arts and as such surely has complete authority to determine the spelling of his own name when the museum presents it in roman form within English, as the museum often does: consistently, as "Eikoh". I happen to think that this use of "h" is most unfortunate because it's anglophonocentric [?] (pretty meaningless to those who don't happen to know the vagaries of English spelling) and because it leads to such absurdities as the coexistence of "Ohura" meaning オオウラ and "Ohara" meaning オハラ. (Is オオハラ ever "Ohhara", or does the transliterator discreetly forget the 長音?). Still, for me this irritation is outweighed by respect for the way people can write their own names. (If we tell Hosoe that he's Eikō, will we next tell Moriyama Daidō that he's "Hiromichi Moriyama"?) I'm tempted to disregard all these idiosyncratic spellings and instead to be systematic and (in a sense) correct (with great benefits), but I can't do so with a straight face while WP still systematically inverts the name of any Japanese person unfortunate to have been born after 1867: insisting on "Eikō" (on whatever grounds) but then plonking this in front of his surname strikes me as ludicrous.

I've no objection to spelling Japanese terms other than personal names strictly according to modern-day Hepburn (well, aside from my considerable dislike of the anglophonocentricity of Hepburn), but I'm surprised that your enthusiasm for correct Hepburn in personal names not only leaves redirects to be fixed by others but also seems to trample over the name-holders' personal preferences and to ignore their context: WP's craven submission to anglophone journalistic name-reversal convention. Comments? -- Hoary 09:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC) (slightly rephrased 00:53, 18 November 2006 (UTC))

Please feel free to undo my changes if you think it appropriate. This was something I moved while in the process of changing many many other things; I saw something I thought was mispelled, I "fixed" it, and moved on. I truly will not be offended if you simply move it back. Thanks, Hoary. LordAmeth 10:07, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Spoken like a gentleman, my Lord, but a bit disappointingly contrite. Though when I look at all the flak you've recently been getting at Japanese MoS from right-thinking proponents of "common sense" and the like, I'm not surprised that you don't want to get embroiled in yet another argument.

I dunno myself, I have to say. It's a pity for native speakers of Japanese that the two systems of romanizing Japanese are in their different ways so bad and that workarounds are no better. (I think the answer is an extension of 訓令 that handles フィ、ヴァ、シェ、ツァ etc. and that will make no concessions to speakers of English. Even the latter are unlikely to complain after an initial period of confusion: when we look at Chinese we see that pinyin is almost unchallenged.) Little wonder it's all such a mess.

I'll change this one back, but unenthusiastically as I think "koh" is silly for 「こう」. -- Hoary 10:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


  On 14 November, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rice broker, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

I hope no one minds me placing this here on my own talk page, since whoever updated DYK four days ago never gave me this notice. --LordAmeth 10:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

(Lord of Tsushima)So YoshitoshiEdit

僕は日本語が上手じゃなくて、すみませんが、「義智」とは、「よしとし」の代わりに、「よしとも」と読みませんか。僕の英語の本によると、宗氏の1568年-1615年の人は「よしとも」と言うそうです。そうじゃありませんか。変事をするなら、僕の英語のユーザーページーでしてください。ありがとう。アメジスト殿 2006年11月21日 (火) 23:43 (UTC)

対馬の大名 宗義智(1568-1615)は「そう・よしとしSo Yoshitoshi」と読みます。一般的に義智は「よしともYoshitomo」とも読むことは可能ですが、個人名としての宗義智はYoshioshiと読むのが正しいようです。Yasumi 00:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
だろう?--Kuuzo 00:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes.Yasumi 09:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Worthless new category?Edit

Just thought I'd bring your attention to this new category: Japanese Military Strategists - I don't see this as a worthwhile or even remotely valuable category. My reasons are on the talk page, however it basically comes down to it being a vague and subjective category. There is no way to quantify who is a "Military Strategist", particularly when you look at the names already added to the category. I nominate it for deletion as useless clutter, but that's just me. --Kuuzo 01:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

If you'd like to nom it, I'll back you up. That is, unless it's just one of a whole bunch of "military strategists by country" categories, in which case we can't very well nom it to be deleted by itself. LordAmeth 01:03, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, it is a stand alone category, not part of a broader "Military Strategists of the World" project. I'll nom it, but how do I go about that? I guess I should ask, is a category that is too broad and subjective grounds for deleting it? --Kuuzo 01:22, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Since it's very difficult to know who's a "strategist" and who's simply a military leader or commander, I'd say the category is pretty useless. Check out WP:CfD (Categories for deletion), and just follow the nomination instructions. Then we'll have a formal discussion and vote about it, and decide if it needs to be deleted. Thanks again for working on, and catching, this sort of thing. LordAmeth 01:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I've added the cfd tag. --Kuuzo 02:23, 23 November 2006 (UTC) I'm not completely sure I did it correctly, but it looks Ok. --Kuuzo 06:12, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Looks good! LordAmeth 08:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Did you knowEdit

  On 24 November, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chichibu Incident, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo (t)(c) • 17:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on getting a great article on the Main Page! Fg2 05:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm glad that brought it attention such that others came and improved it. Still needs a bit of expansion I think though. LordAmeth 11:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

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Japanese printsEdit

Since I see your name popping up editing these, can i ask you to try & get links in to printmaking (printmaker redirects there) & woodcut, which cover the artistic techniques. woodblock printing is a historic overview of the process for text & cloth etc as well as art, although I'm aware it is the more usual term for Japanese prints.

I've made complaints on various pages re the need for an overview article on Asian prints - I have embarked on Old master print for the Western tradition (& popular prints). Any chance of you doing it? Were there any Chinese prints outside books? I just don't know, nor how long back the Japanese tradition goes.

How are you liking SOAS? My father spent a year there in the Army learning Chinese 44-45.

If you haven't seen these articles, please cast an eye Thxs Johnbod 00:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I shall try to start including links to woodcut and [[printmaking]; thanks for bringing that to my attention. As for my writing a whole overview article on printmaking, I don't think I can - it's just not my field of expertise, and I don't have good sources (though, if I had the time and the inclination, I could certainly borrow such sources from the SOAS library). We'll see - I'm still hoping someone else will do it :). Meanwhile, SOAS is great academically - I'm enjoying my classes, loving the depth of the library, but the political atmosphere here leaves something to be desired, unfortunately. LordAmeth 08:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry to hear the last bit. Even a stub article, gathering the links to what has already been created, would be a useful start & give other editors something to build on. Without knowing anything about the Asian field, I have found you have to ferret around the articles to find new ones. Sorting out the categories would be another way - there is no Category:Japanese printmaker in the printmaking categories, I think

Johnbod 11:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, well, I shall keep it in mind and attempt to tackle it soon. It definitely is a topic quite popular both in scholarship and in general knowledge which is scarcely touched on the 'pedia. LordAmeth 16:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I have created an article at the somewhat bulky title of Woodblock printing in Japan; it doesn't quite cover the same things as ukiyo-e, woodblock printing or history of typography in East Asia, though perhaps some merging, expansion, or cleanup should be done among these various articles by someone with more inclination and expertise. I'm more than happy to help out, and to contribute an element which, seemingly, was largely not covered. But I think with so many articles dancing around a similar set of topics, someone probably ought to do something to reconcile all of this. Nevertheless, that said, thank you once again for bringing this to my attention; I hope I have been of some help, and I wish you and your printing-oriented colleagues luck with this undertaking in future. LordAmeth 01:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Thats fabulous - you military types don't hang around! I will add a list of artists from the ukiyo-e category; but what you have done is just what i could not do. I have added chunks to woodcut and woodblock printing. There is inevitable overlap in these articles, & calls for merges, but i think the organisation chart is about right. "Typography in EA" is a bit of a war-zone at the moment (as are movable type & Johannes Gutenberg) but I will add some of yours in when a cease-fire occurs.

Here's a flower for the rifle Johnbod 01:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, me again. This guy,Takeda Harunobu, supposedly an artist of the Kaigar... school, redirects to Takeda Shingen, who even I have heard of. Is this a mistake? Or are there 2 Takeda Harunobus?

Also, if you have dates for the first block-printed book & print in Japan, that would be great - names optional. Johnbod 02:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Haha. Yes, there are indeed two notable Takeda Harunobus. One is Takeda Shingen. The other, as you say, is a member of the Kaigetsudō school, not to be confused with the far more well-known Suzuki Harunobu, who is sometimes known simply as Harunobu. ^_^ As for the dates of the first prints, that I do not know, I'm afraid. I was actually surprised that even my "Japan Encyclopedia" simply gave me "Woodblock printing - see Ukiyo-e." ... Wait, I've just found it. I'm gonna go add it to the article. LordAmeth 09:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Kanji for Oda NobunagaEdit

Someone changed the Kanji on Oda Nobunaga to this: 織田 暢長 - without any explanation. Now, I suppose that there is a very, very slight chance that I have missed some archaic text that gives that Kanji, but as far as I know the correct kanji is, and has always been: 織田信長 - thoughts? Nobunaga can be written with that kanji, but even a Japanese web search and a random flip through some of my books on hand bring up nothing. --Kuuzo 02:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

looks like someone changed it back. Still not sure what the purpose of the original change was. --Kuuzo 06:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

new toyEdit

Kirill Lokshin and me have developed a new toy (discussion):

External images

Implemented in an article it can look like in Mongol bow (including some misunderstanding) or Indian Wars. While we (mostly me) think it is a great thing (contrary to the long frustrating negotiations for images that can not keep up with the rapid expansion of articles and new requests), it would require some people to use it and not overdo it. You just have to google missing images and insert the url with a short description. I would really appreciate it, especially for the feedback. Thank you a lot. Greatings Wandalstouring 06:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Looks neat. Thank you. It is a shame, though, that we can't bring more images in here more easily; I've been working on art topics a lot lately, and the unavailability of public domain photography of these public domain images makes the whole project very difficult... LordAmeth 08:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
finished template with guidelines. Wandalstouring 17:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Abe no YoriyoshiEdit

Thanks for adding the article to Template:Newest Japan-related articles. Unfortunately, the link is red. I checked the logs and there's no record of deletion so maybe it's a typo? Fg2 01:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I fixed it within moments of adding it. Apparently my "fix" didn't take. Weird. LordAmeth 08:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. It's an interesting article! We'll never know what went wrong... Fg2 08:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Did you knowEdit

  On 6 December, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Abe Tadaaki, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo (t)(c) • 22:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Charles Goddard Weld & the Weld familyEdit

I'd just like to thank you for your contributions to both the Weld Family article, and to that on Charles Goddard Weld which I originally wrote. Though I'm admittedly not normally one for American history, particularly local history, I became quite interested in the stories of certain prominent Bostonians & New Englanders during my time as an intern at the MFA. ... So, thanks again for your extensive work on such an interesting and oftoverlooked element of history. (Plus, it's always fun to meet another Bostonian here on the 'pedia!) LordAmeth 23:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you greatly LordAmeth; our paths have crossed a few times and probably will again. For example, I had just expanded the Japanese Maple article when you added the kanji. As you are a Nipponophile with a Boston connection, I wonder if you noticed my Larz Anderson Bonsai Collection article that is mentioned on the "Did you know?" section on the Wikipedia main page? It might interest you. Thanks again and best wishes. HouseOfScandal23:50, 6 December 2006 Hey -- I notice that you are on the "Did you know page?" page today as well. Congrads! HouseOfScandal23:50, 6 December 2006

Requested mapsEdit

Anything for feudal Japanese battles could be incredibly useful. I can start making some, but I think finding ones from professional sources could be a better idea. LordAmeth 22:01, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Could you clarify which battles? Afterwards I can retrieve maps, but without any search parameters it is impossible. Wandalstouring 13:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Sure... I was hoping to be general in posting, so that I could make use of whatever came up. But, to start with the main major battles is cool: Battle of Ichi-no-Tani, Battle of Dan-no-ura, Battles of Kawanakajima (fourth battle), Battle of Nagashino... Thanks, friend! LordAmeth 15:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Creating maps of the troop deployment in battles is a bit difficult without any existing maps we can use to verify our conception(yes, we can do it, but there is a long qeue waiting for battle maps in order to get FA/GA) Would it be helpful to show the territorial changes due to battles? If you provide the data this could be done now. Wandalstouring 01:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
No, that's alright. Thank you very much for keeping me and my stuff in mind, but I don't think the territorial gains were of particular interest here. If you should happen upon, completely by chance, usable maps of the troop deployments & tactics, I'd appreciate it, but otherwise don't worry about it. If I had a scanner I might draw something up myself... LordAmeth 01:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I searched the web for it, but Japanese battles lack such info. Strange. But I have a different idea. I found historically accurate wargames of these battles and there isn't much difference between the pedantic arrangement of good wargame (with some arrows indicating later historic maneuvers). Supposedly these guys could help if you and the other members feel it is an acceptable approach. Do you approve of such measures? (Naturally I would impose strict controls for historic accuracy of positions, amarmament, etc.) Wandalstouring 01:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh, absolutely. I'd forgotten about those games. In particular, I know there's a game of Dan-no-ura. Very cool. Thanks again. LordAmeth 01:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
So you feel this wargame is good enough to be used? (In case this works I will setup a lot more battles with wargame maps).
Yes, absolutely. A brilliant idea. Go right ahead. LordAmeth 12:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

printing press citationsEdit

Hi, Thanks again for continuing to develop Woodblock printing in Japan! The passages I have copied over or precis-ed to the main Woodblock printing article are now caught in the skirmishing for a long-running edit controversy affecting Johannes Gutenberg, Movable type etc. All about possible East Asian influence/precedence on Gutenberg - see the interminable talk pages. I try to keep WP a neutral zone!

Anyway, 2 "citation needed" tags have been placed as follows at WP:

"Though the Jesuits operated a movable type printing press in Nagasaki, an Asian press[citation needed] brought back by Toyotomi Hideyoshi's army from Korea in 1593 had far greater influence on the development of the medium. Four years later, Tokugawa Ieyasu, even before becoming shogun, effected the creation of the first native movable type press,[citation needed] using wooden type-pieces rather than metal. He oversaw the creation of 100,000 type-pieces, which were used to print a number of political and historical texts."

Can you confirm which of the 2 refs in the article at the point this bit went in (Frederik & Lane) this came from? Also, do you have anything about what a Korean printing-press actually looked like or did - a matter of dispute in eg History of typography in East Asia , another battle-zone?

I have copied the Analects bit over, btw, plus ref. Thanks again Johnbod 17:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Both of those citations can be found in Lane, p. 33. I'll go add that to the article. As for the description or appearance of the Korean press, I'm afraid I have nothing. But if I come across it, I shall incorporate it, and let you know. Thanks again for spurring me to start work on such an important topic, and for all your help. LordAmeth 17:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

New Ryūkyū vs. Ryukyu pollEdit

Hello. You participated in the Ryūkyū Islands vs. Ryukyu Islands vote that resulted in no consensus at Talk:Ryūkyū Islands. As you are probably aware, that vote is being redone at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(Japan-related_articles)#Poll:_.22Ry.C5.ABky.C5.AB.22_instead_of_.22Ryukyu.22. . If you still have an opinion, please participate in the new poll before it is concluded. Bendono 00:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Emperor En'yūEdit

Would you please assist me in moving Emperor En'yu to Emperor En'yū? Emperor En'yū exists already as a redirect, so the move requires administrator assistance. Thank you. Bendono 14:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. Please take care of the redirects (from "What links here"), if you don't mind. LordAmeth 14:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Batsu (and Maru)Edit

Hi LordAmeth, I wanted to let you know that after reading your note at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Japan I have changed Batsu from a redirect to a disambig. --Lph 20:36, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on my 1812 Russian invasion battlesEdit

Today I checked a few of my 1812 Russian-French battle articles and found that you had commented on two of them. Thanks for the remarks and advice.

I want to add more substance to the articles -- maybe two pages more for each -- but must first find sources that address the events in depth. Those sources are the kinds of materials that nobody but specialists read, so they will have to be specially ordered. I'll get to it sooner or later.

Also, I see that you were previously a Bostonian...I live in Boston myself. I hope you are having good experiences in England.

Best, Kenmore 09:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)kenmore


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It seems the easiest and most obvious way to obtain a free license image of this band would be to attend one of their performances and to take a picture myself. Problems with that being: (a) I don't know if even that would be free licensed, as the band may very well own copyright to their own personal likenesses, etc. (b) I have not been to one of their events, nor am I planning to go to one in the near future.
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So, do whatever you think appropriate with this image. Makes no difference to me. Have a nice day. LordAmeth 14:23, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

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Huge mass of deleted articlesEdit

Hey -- I've noticed you creating new articles to replace some of the ones that have been deleted as Samurai Archive copyvios. I figure you're probably adding those as you notice them, but there's actually a big list (not sure if you've seen it): User:Nihonjoe/Samurai, which includes the full list of copyvio articles we've had to delete. I figured you might want to look, in case there are important figures in there that you want to re-create articles on. Mangojuicetalk 14:18, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah. Thanks for that. Yeah, I was basically just following red links chosen at random, like I usually do, and subsequently noticing that they'd been deleted articles. I'll take a look. Cheers! LordAmeth 19:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
your additions are a vast improvement on the previous articles. Nice work! --Kuuzo 09:06, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Great job (^-^)b Dekimasu 09:28, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry ChristmasEdit

Darwinek wishes you a Merry Christmas!

Hi! I just want to say Merry Christmas to you! Have a nice holiday time. If you don't observe this event then I hope you don't mind this greeting. :) - Darwinek 20:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Aw, thanks. You too! LordAmeth 20:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Noor Inayat KhanEdit

Hi, last week you assessed this article for the Military History project. I've tried to clean it up a little bit. Do you think a B-Class could be taken into consideration now? Jeppi 11:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

You've done a great job cleaning it up. It's a shame so much had to be removed, but I think you've kept the most important parts. Thanks. LordAmeth 14:05, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick response. Jeppi 23:42, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Banning IssueEdit

Hello my old friend Lord Ameth, I indeed have many problems currently when it comes for be to be unbanned. As seen in my User talk:Darin Fidika, I am being greatly misunderstood within this overall issue - not one administrator has given me a rational response to why I should stay banned. At the moment, I have been permenantly banned for "continuous blatant copyrighting", but as you can see by my past current contributions, they obviously are not copyright material to any extent. After NihonJoe impulsively deleted all, or atleast most of samurai articles, he has had a personal grudge against me - I have truly been banned for simply forgetting to state the copyright property of images once or twice (such as if it is a video game cover or so forth). I would be greatly thankful if you could look into this issue, since I only wish to make Wikipedia thrive in it's own excellence.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

User:Darin Fidika (DEC 26)

Darin, I would love to help you, and I feel really bad that anyone with good intentions should be banned permanently; that said, you were given many many many chances, not only to clean up your act in terms of citations and plaigiarism, but in terms of stylistic elements and good writing. I sought to extricate myself from the copyright issue almost as quickly as I first got involved in it, because I refused to be so heavy-handed, and simply because it was bringing a lot of anguish and a lot of menial administrative-type work upon me; Wikipedia is a hobby, and I refuse to get involved in things which will make situations difficult or unpleasant for myself. But I asked you many many times to fix your language in minor, but important, stylistic ways and nothing got changed. I'm all for giving people second chances, as I would like to be given second chances; but you've been given sixth and seventh and eighth chances, and apologized profusely and very politely offered to change your behavior, and then didn't do so. I harbor no grudges or ill-feelings, but I am not the one who banned you, and I simply cannot step on anyone else's (i.e. Nihonjoe's) toes. It's up to him, or the Arbitration Committee or whatever to decide what to do with this. I wish you luck, but I'm afraid I cannot get involved. LordAmeth 16:59, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Even if so, I still thank you greatly for your time my old friend. At this moment however, it seems not even arbitrator Charles Matthews wants to be involved within this issue - as seen to some extent on his talk page. Thus, I would like to ask if you personally know any other admins or high ranking arbitrators that I could talk to that would take the time to look into my issue and see it's injustice. At this point in time, it is unfortunate to see very few administrators as sympathetic as yourself.

Thank you once again for your consideration, LordAmeth.

User:Darin Fidika (31 Dec) - (EST)

I am afraid I do not have anyone in particular to suggest to you. Sorry I can't be more help. LordAmeth 10:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

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Abe no YoritokiEdit

LordAmeth, I noticed you wrote the following on Abe no Yoritoki's page: "As the bearer of the title of chinjufu shogun (Defender of the North), Abe was responsible for overseeing the subjugation of the aboriginal inhabitants of Honshū's northernmost areas, and the protection of Japanese communities from them." You give Sansom as your source, but I honestly cannot find a reference to Yoritoki being Chinjufu Shogun. He isn't listed on the Japanese page as being a Chinjufu Shogun, either. So, I checked multiple books and read through McCullough's translation of Mutsu Waki/A Tale of Mutsu (陸奥話紀), and no where can I find that Yoritoki was Chinjufu Shogun. I'm presently researching Emishi-Yamato relations, so this is of great interest to me. Yoritoki and his son Abe no Munetô *did* however hold the position of fushuuchou 俘囚長, I believe. Could it be that this was confused? Nagaeyari 02:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

"Chinjufu shogun" is not listed in Sansom's index, which is a shame. But Abe no Yoritoki is explicitly described as "military commander-in-chief responsible for the safety of the province and the superintendence of the aborigines, that is to say the 'pacified' Ainu people." He goes on to explain "this office dated from the ninth century, when the Ainu had been subdued and were living more or less peacefully under Japanese rule. The holder of this post was always a member of the Abe family" (249). So.. I'm actually not sure that this definitely translates into chinjufu shogun, but as you're probably more knowledgeable on this, I leave it to you. Sansom does not explicitly give a Japanese term for this title. Thank you for asking into such things. LordAmeth 03:00, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
If you look at page 674 in the Cambridge History of Japan Volume Two: Heian Japan, you'll find the following: "Even when rank meant little more than title, it served to impress local tsuwamono. The fifth rank was sought after by warriors; it brought eligibility for appointment as governor or chinjufu shougun and could, on occasion, be purchased". I can't find any mention to Abe no Yoritoki being Chinfuju Shougun, even though the term is mentioned for others in the same area. So, I believe it can be said with certainty that Abe no Yoritoki was only fushuuchou 俘囚長, and therefore a district magistrate at most. Nagaeyari 21:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. LordAmeth 21:37, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
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