Talk:Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki

Latest comment: 1 day ago by An anonymous username, not my real name in topic Did you know nomination

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: An anonymous username, not my real name (talk · contribs)

Reviewer: Steelkamp (talk · contribs) 14:00, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello. I aim to get this review done within a week from now. Steelkamp (talk) 14:00, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Good article criteria edit

  Well written edit

  • To comply with MOS:SURNAME, subsequent mentions of his given name beyond the first sentence should be replaced with his surname.
      Done
  • This claim had been refuted by the Islamic State in October 2016... Can this be changed to This claim was refuted by the Islamic State in October 2016...
      Done
  • ...during a visit 2006... Change to ...during a visit in 2006...
      Done
  • I feel the first sentence of the lead doesn't adequately introduce Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki to readers. I would mention he was a member of IS, which is the most important piece of info about him.
      Done
  • I also think the lead should mention he was raised as Hindu and converted to Islam in Japan.
      Done

That's it for the prose review. Its a very well written article. I have made some small changes myself in addition to the three above points. I'll do a source review next and I expect to have some comments about broadness in coverage. Steelkamp (talk) 15:43, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Verifiable with no original research edit

Luckily since there are not that many references, I managed to spot check all of them. I found no issues there, although I made a few minor changes to citation formatting myself. Steelkamp (talk) 06:59, 30 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Broad in its coverage edit

I found nothing that could be used to expand this article in my spot check of the references. However, when looking at the Japanese Wikipedia article on Ozaki, I found this source, which says his three remaining children travelled back to Japan after he was arrested in 2019. That could be added to the "Personal life" section. Steelkamp (talk) 06:59, 30 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • Added.

  Neutral edit

  Stable edit

  Illustrated, if possible edit

No images, understandably. Steelkamp (talk) 06:59, 30 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

General edit

Only a few things to fix. A short but good article. Steelkamp (talk) 06:59, 30 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your kind and helpful review. I've taken care of everything, although I noticed a slight hiccup in the article's first sentence: "born 1982" in is parentheses, while "as Sajit Chandra Debnath" is not, something more noticeable when previewing the article as parenthesized segments are hidden. There is also no comma before the word "also" in the same sentence. However you feel is best to address this is fine with me. Anonymous 18:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I've improved that sentence based on the examples at MOS:BIRTHNAME. There is possibility for further improvement, but I'll leave it as that for now and pass the review. Steelkamp (talk) 02:44, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've added the article to the "Political figures" GA category, although I'm not 100% certain that is the best category. Feel free to move it somewhere else if you think that would be better. Steelkamp (talk) 02:54, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Did you know nomination edit

Improved to Good Article status by An anonymous username, not my real name (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Anonymous 16:48, 31 March 2024 (UTC).Reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:   - issue
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Article is new enough, long enough, and is well-sourced, but the source used here has an issue (see Buxton comments below). Possibly hook could be improved (see comment below), a really interesting article John Cummings (talk) 19:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Note: I changed the review status thanks to Bruxton for flagging the issues. John Cummings (talk) 19:23, 4 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
  •   Regarding this nomination. It is a BLP so I am cautious about promoting a hook that seems to imply guilt before conviction. Also the bit in the hook about him being an associate professor... it appears in the lead uncited. In the body it just says "He began teaching at Kyoto's Ritsumeikan" - since it is a hook fact it should be stated in the body directly followed by a citation. The hook is 197 characters so it is 3 under the limit, but also gives too much info. (I also made this reply at DYK). I think we need a new hook that because this is a BLP. Bruxton (talk) 19:16, 4 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • @Bruxton:, five years later and Ozaki's whereabouts remain unclear, as well as the issue as to whether or not he was ever formally tried or convicted by any government. This source is rather intriguing and it seems quite plausible that he may have been among the militants sentenced to death (he certainly fits their description, but while the article mentions his name, it does not confirm that he was one of them). Without any formal conviction on record, I'm unsure what the hook would even be about, as he was only notable for his alleged IS membership. Perhaps something like "... that a Bangladeshi and Japanese academic, Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki, was captured in Syria and detained in Iraq?"? This is at least somewhat interesting without making any kind of accusation. Anonymous 01:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply