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The Scholars (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. There is a Punknews staff review of their only album. AllMusic has a rating for this album, but no review. toweli (talk) 17:01, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jayati Devi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication that this person is notable per the current sourcing (which is not significant coverage), nor by her association with her husband, nor as a model/artist/musician. The article is part of a walled garden about the Munshi/Munsi extended family. A BEFORE search revealed nothing about this Jayati Devi (only about others). Fails WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone (talk) 15:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neil Merryweather (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Follow-up from this AfD. Fails WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG, and lack of sources for existing content in article Mdann52 (talk) 13:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lynn Carey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Follow-up from this AfD. Fails WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG, and struggling to find any sources to support existing information in article. Mdann52 (talk) 13:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Widescreen Mode (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable band. --Viennese Waltz 11:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copper Wimmin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable vocal group. Did not find any reliable sources about the group online. GamerPro64 05:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Funnybros (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Saw this page and wanted to over look it not until almost all the source, possibly all fails to meet Wikipedia independent, reliable and secondary. No point calling him a musician when all the source are from promotion link and also fails in music notability. Since 2023 issue was tagged but no changes. Gabriel (talk to me ) 00:31, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, Bands and musicians, and Nigeria. Gabriel (talk to me ) 00:31, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Coverage is looking sparse. These two sources might count towards GNG, although they do look low-quality: [2] [3]. I am unable to consistently access guardian.ng. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 03:08, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don’t see how those sources you provided meets GNG neither low quality. Meanwhile, i have never heard the word “Low quality” while determining either an article meets GNG or not. If it passes it passes. If doesn’t pass, it doesn’t. You can visit the article page. Check the tag to understand what reliable, independent source it’s all about. The two source you provided failed to be independent because it doesn’t speak from a disinterest of the article subject. Gabriel (talk to me ) 04:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    By "low-quality" I meant that the tone is tabloid-style and the articles don't contain a lot of independent analysis. The sources use non-neutral language, but I don't see indications that they have a vested interest in the subject. If the articles were sponsored, for example, they would be completely non-independent, but there is no indication of that (unless there's something I'm missing about the sources). Per WP:IIS, "Independence does not imply even-handedness. An independent source may hold a strongly positive or negative view of a topic or an idea." Helpful Raccoon (talk) 05:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The sources could also be non-independent if the coverage is almost entirely based on the subject's own words, which is possible but not obvious. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand u. But before i nominated the page. The sources are not just making sense to me. The few newspaper that was cited was just all about Meet Funnybros. The rest are from Nigerian blogs and music link containing Apple Music and the rest. Personal life he bought a Benz the two source cited are from blogs that are not reliable besides buying a Benz has nothing to do with notability. Gabriel (talk to me ) 11:53, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Youngboi OG (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Promotional article for artist who fails WP:MUSICBIO. Has been deleted twice before, newest incarnation of article featured several sources that looked reliable on the surface, but were copied verbatim from this Blogspot blog, where they were published first, and which solely consists of five puffery-filled articles about this artist. (N.B.: This blog was deleted shortly after this AfD was opened.) The other two sources (no authors given) are also written in this non-journalistic press release style, one of which is on the same platform (menafn.com) that copied the Blogspot article, calling its integrity into question. Rift (talk) 20:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

King (rapper) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This was here once before and the result was to redirect as the subject was deemed to not be sufficiently notable on their own, but it seems some folks keep trying to turn it into an article, so here we are again. "First Indian pop star to walk the red carpet at Cannes" seems like a desperate attempt to establish notability over a random intersection of events, seeing as Cannes is a film festival, not a music festival. I think this should either be restored to a redirect or preferably, just deleted. If either of those is done it should also be salted until such time as someone is able to produce a draft article that actually has significant coverage from reliable sources. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 20:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and salt. Nothing notable here. I don't even know if WP:BLP1E would apply here for that last sentence, if it is indeed a desperate attempt at notability. Aside from the sources already in the article and links to his music, I can't find much else. I also get more hits about other people, especially another rapper by the name of Chris King. Procyon117 (talk) 14:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jazz Henry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sources given that meet WP:GNG (her father's website, herself talking, some name drops, and dubiously reliable articles), I didn't find any better ones, and the article also fails WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:ANYBIO. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 18:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Littlest Man Band (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources and what's linked in the article doesn't establish notability. There's this in The Reader (newspaper) (which directly copies much of the text from the Wikipedia article) and a review by Punktastic. A possible alternative to deletion is a merge/redirect to Scott Klopfenstein (although I'm not sure if he himself is wiki-notable either). toweli (talk) 14:50, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lil Travieso (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tribute article for a murdered rapper. Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. No indication of awards or charted songs; no notable biographical details prior to his death. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baanty (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Yet another musician, creative director, or music executive who critically fails WP:NCREATIVE and WP:NMUSICIAN. Another article written in a way that, if not carefully looked at, will look like it clearly passes any notability guideline, whereas it critically doesn't pass any. Just like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emperor Geezy, looking at the sources, they are either PRs/advertorials for music releases or lacking in WP:SIGCOV, they are also mostly unreliable pieces (without a proper byline). The source cited for the claim that they won an award Nigerian Books of Record in 2021, here utterly fails verification because there was no mention of Baanty, Ikpon Kelvin or even "Creative Director" which they won. It is also pretty dubious since the article says they've been active since 2022, so how come winning an award from the prestigious NBR? The other award and nominations isn't/aren't significant enough to make the subject presumptively notable under any criteria. Overall, fails WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 00:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anshul Garg (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This individual lacks notability on his own. His entire article centers around his associations with Tony Kakkar and Neha Kakkar, rather than highlighting any significant achievements or contributions he has made independently. Also, the references are about Tony Kakkar and Neha Kakkar. Fails WP:ARTIST. Charlie (talk) 12:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Basen Murmu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is no evidence of notability. The previous AfD was closed as a soft delete. I searched for reliable, independent sources with significant information but found nothing to establish the subject as notable. GrabUp - Talk 07:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete A quick search does not bring any reliable sources, and the sources in the article also does not pass the WP:DEPTH requirement.
Ferdinand Marcos's dead (and weird) soul (talk) 07:45, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Antslive (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable musical artist. Still has a long journey to get to notability MaximumRespect! MrFixer200 (talk) 20:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I second the proposal on moving the page title, as the guy's name has the capital L in the middle. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keemokazi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nothing here to meet WP:GNG. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John Pierce (musician) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:GNG, coverage of Pierce in secondary sources is entirely lacking. Editors with access to offline music magazine archives may have better luck finding sources, but the total absence of anything more substantial than an interview or liner notes does not suggest to me that we should presume such coverage exists. As Pierce has worked with several bands, I don't think there is any single redirect target that would be appropriate, and that internal search results thus best serve readers searching for this title. signed, Rosguill talk 17:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aref Jalayeri (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't meet WP:NMUSICBIO. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I agree that the article does not show any information warranting nobility, nor do the sources. Coulomb1 (talk) 14:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But in parts of the article, the identity of this person is stated correctly. I know this person. He is active as mentioned in the article. Aref Jalayeri (talk) 06:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mosab Al Khateeb (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Moved from WP:AFC after decline, fails WP:NSINGER. Theroadislong (talk) 08:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, this Wikipedia is about a Jordanian singer who enjoys wide fame in the Arab world and is alive. I ask you to approve this Wikipedia and not delete it. It will be amended and more will be added over time from reliable sources. Thank you. Mohdkhatttab (talk) 08:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Willie XO (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable musician. Fails WP:GNG. No significant coverage. Majority of the references are just from mere blog talking about his music. It is also clearly written by the creator the subject paid for billboard advertising. This doesn’t even sound like a biography but a promotional work and majority of the contribution are from the creator suck puppet account https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Mark_Yung_Chukwuebuka user:MarkIblog for reference. Gabriel (talk to me ) 09:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwize (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article about a non-notable rapper. Sources are passing mentions and nothing indepth on the subject. I don't see it satisfies WP:NMUSICBIO or WP:GNG. Jamiebuba (talk) 07:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per WP:NMUSIC. WP:NMUSIC states "Musicians ... may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria." Otherwize clearly meets 3 of the criteria: #1, #7, and #9.
    1. He has been featured in multiple documentaries (Where We're From and Freestyle: The Art of Rhyme), books (The Come Up, The Way I Am, King Khule, Born a Villain), and articles (HipHopDX, etc.). His prominence in the documentaries have nothing to do with Eminem, so they are not inherited notability.
    7. In Where We're From, Otherwize is cited as the most prominent battle rapper in his region (LA) during this era. That has nothing to do with Eminem, so it's not inherited notability.
    9. Otherwize won 1st Place and 3rd Place in major national music competitions (Rap Olympics '97 and Scribble Jam '99). Granted, one of those was defeating Eminem, but the other one was not, and they are still placings in national music competitions regardless of who he defeated. So this is not inherited notability.
    He is also part of a notable crew called Project Blowed, which is also a subject of documentaries (This is the Life and Hip-Hop Evolution). He featured on the important Los Angeles underground albums Beneath the Surface and Cater to the DJ. Hierarchitectitiptitoploftical (talk) 20:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Outlawz. and I'll lay down some protection here as well. Liz Read! Talk! 17:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yaki Kadafi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Multiple times contested WP:BLAR; notability is WP:NOTINHERITED from this musician's main group, Outlawz. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 15:43, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mehran Tebyani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Moved from draft by conflicted editor, no evidence of passing WP:GNG primary sources and interviews don't help with notability. Theroadislong (talk) 08:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redraftify until notability issues fixed. Procyon117 (talk) 14:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mehran Tebyani
is a notable figure in the field of music, particularly recognized for being the first Iranian conductor to hold a doctoral degree. His contributions to the music industry are significant and well-documented. Here are key points highlighting his notability and accomplishments:
  • Academic Achievements: Mehran Tebyani holds a doctoral degree, making him the first Iranian conductor to achieve this level of academic success in the field.
  • Publications: He has published a book in Iran, which contributes to his recognition as a scholar and expert in music.
  • Media Coverage: Tebyani has been interviewed by numerous newspapers in Iran, demonstrating his influence and prominence in the Iranian music scene.
  • Radio Sessions: During his time in Los Angeles, he hosted a radio session dedicated to the history of music for one year, further showcasing his expertise and commitment to educating the public about music.
  • Concerts and Performances: He has conducted several concerts at UCLA in Los Angeles, adding to his international recognition and illustrating his active involvement in the music community.
Dr.Hana jalili (talk) 06:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Move back to Draft -- as it is written, there aren't enough sources that establish notability beyond a doubt (the Lede has an interesting fact and cool accomplishment but probably is not enough on its own to get past GNG or a Music notability guideline). The author should continue to work on getting sources that point directly to notability (translated quotations from Iranian publications would help). On the WP:PROF side, it's a case of TOOSOON (often composers and conductors who are also academics pass the GNG or NMUSIC bar before they pass the WP:PROF criteria. -- any one of them is, however, enough to be a keep vote).
Kamal Gray (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Per WP:BANDMEMBER, Redirect to The Roots#Band lineup. Extremely little coverage can be found to justify notability, except articles about his donation of 25,000$ and a strange biographical article/interview/financial advice piece [19] published by UBS. Broc (talk) 20:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The articles about his donations are in reputable sources and speak to his notability as a member of The Roots, and the genre/format of the UBS article is not relevant to whether it counts as a source to establish notability. His notability comes from his being a member of The Roots and the sources confirm that. Hexatekin (talk) 03:13, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:BANDMEMBER, being a member of a notable band does not imply the subject has independent notability. Broc (talk) 15:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't aware of the BANDMEMBER policy. I still think there is more press on him, maybe in magazines. Will try to improve references. Looking at Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals, as an early and ongoing member of The Roots, I'd say he qualifies for these 2 for sure: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times, or The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field". Hexatekin (talk) 16:27, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Several notable band affiliations. Keystone18 (talk) 18:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to The Roots#Band lineup. Per WP:MUSIC a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles is notable. Gray is a member of The Roots and The Tonight Show Band, both have WP articles. But he doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 12:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I found two more reliable secondary sources and added some details from them to the article. I agree that his notability comes from his membership in The Roots and he has been written about in reliable secondary sources. Nnev66 (talk) 19:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Rudiments (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I couldn't find convincing evidence they meet WP:NBAND / WP:GNG. They have been with more than one record label, so there are several potential redirect targets, though I am not sure which would be preferable. I wouldn't propose a merge as there is no sourced information. Boleyn (talk) 19:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: In addition to what has been linked, there is another review by AllMusic. toweli (talk) 12:45, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Asger Svendsen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Could find very little through a Google search; no WP:SIGCOV, only passing mentions. Reference on the article's page is a dead link, and an external link is from a primary source (via Wayback Machine) that doesn't look as though it has been updated since about 2008. Doesn't seem to pass WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. ExRat (talk) 22:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bus (group) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable band. Article was moved from draft space and I originally returned it. After examining the article I noticed that it claim the band started 6 December 2023. However, the the only reference was published 2 February 2021. This was at least 17 months before auditions started. In addition the reference seemed to be about three young women and not twelve young men. The article provides no references for a band that has only released two singles and was created by a non-notable reality show, 789 SURVIVAL. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 22:19, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Muuse Ismaciil Qalinle (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Contested PROD. The sources do not demonstrate notability under WP:GNG, WP:NBIO, or WP:NMUSIC. (The first source is some kind of WP:USERGENERATED list of MP3 files, the second source has a single WP:TRIVIALMENTION of the subject, and the third fails verification entirely, referencing an entirely different individual with the patronym "Qalinle.") Edited to add: an editor has added a reference to Somali Culture and Folklore, pages 63-64. I do not believe this is a valid reference; the book itself is 64 pages and according to Google Books pages 63 and 64 appear to be index pages; Qalinle does not appear as a search term. Additional qualifying sources were not found in my WP:BEFORE search. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:09, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting, already PROD'd so not eligible for Soft Deletion.
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Delete - I can find no sources that even mention this person. A Google search turns up only Wikipedia mirrors, social media, and lists of songs. CodeTalker (talk) 18:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 18:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBAND. Sources only mentioned in passing. Don't appear to have any charted or had a significant impact. Mdann52 (talk) 11:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those are a few minor gig announcements for this band, a few gig announcements for a different band, and a couple about lions in a zoo. Not useful for our purposes. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:51, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 14:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - I recommend notability discussions for band members Lynn Carey and Neil Merryweather too. Both articles are based on long histories that really happened but were rarely reported upon, and are written like fan biographies. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - They really existed and released a couple of albums, but unfortunately I can find little evidence that they received significant and reliable media coverage during their time. The current citations are for a one-paragraph album review, placeholders with no info in AllMusic, and a brief mention of a song being placed in a movie. They were mentioned occasionally in laundry lists of bands that worked with certain producers or at certain studios ([22], [23]), and a controversial album cover comes up sometimes in books about other controversies ([24]). In the Internet era they have a few bloggy notices of the "lost classic" variety ([25], [26]). Alas, I simply can't find enough reliable info with which to build an encyclopedic and biographical WP article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:58, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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