User talk:Retswerb/Archive 1

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Retswerb/sandbox

A tag has been placed on User:Retswerb/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

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@TheImaCow: This is abuse of speedy deletion. "Except for blatant or serious matters, it is preferable to try contacting the user before deletion" (Wikipedia:User pages #Deletion of user pages) The sandbox in question is being used for drafting of a new article and does not fall afoul of Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#U5 in any way. Please stop. Retswerb (talk) 22:51, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks @Ahunt! Looking forward to taking part. Retswerb (talk) 04:42, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

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😂 Okay old man. Whatever you say. --51.19.76.142 (talk) 22:25, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Great to see you!

Hi Retswerb – thanks for taking the time to talk today! As we discussed there are a lot of user scripts that make editing easier. The one I referenced was Popups, which provides more advanced functionality to the hover previews we talked about. You can enable that by going to Special:Preferences -> Gadgets -> Navigation popups. You'll also see a lot of other gadgets available, many of which are extremely useful. Aside from those, there are a great deal of other custom user scripts that make the editing experience easier; you can find a lot of the ones I use at m:User:L235/global.js and User:L235/common.js. Let me know if I can help at all with those! Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 22:09, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks L235! Great to connect. I'll check out those links, thanks for providing them and for your work on behalf of this community. Retswerb (talk) 09:39, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I can't find the problem you referenced.

Hi James K McMahon! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at 3D Printing that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Feel free to let me know if you need help, I'm still fairly new but can help point you in the right direction. Retswerb (talk) 03:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

I do not see this 28 November in your Read page.

I will go to 3D printing now to look into it. I cannot find it. Did you delete it?

You need to understand something about the history of 3D printing. I worked with people who became involved in 3D Printing. The historical information is old and those I may references are no longer with us. For Example: Juki Manufacturing has been contacted for information about printing with plastics but they have no one working with this any more. Any information they may have had is gone. The man who hired them to manufacture a plastic ink printer, Robert Howard is no longer alive. I called the company he started but they dropped the product line and discarded all documentation related to it around 2000. No one who works there knows anything about the early history. You have asked me about minor edits and I believe I have mad an error choosing this marked box. You do know that these things cannot be reversed after they are entered. I'll try not to ever do it again. I have some much to offer Wikipedia about 3D printing. I hope my contributions will not create difficulties again. Historian and Godfather of Single nozzle inkjets (talk) 18:48, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi James, welcome aboard. Take a look at your contribution page at Special:Contributions/James_K_McMahon and you can see the ones marked with a bolded 'm' are the ones you've marked as minor. Please also remember that information you add to articles needs to be attributable to reliable sources rather than your own original research. Check out WP:OR for more info and let me know if I can help. Retswerb (talk) 04:25, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Cuvier's beaked whale

Hi Retswerb. No trout slaps just thanksfor the message I saw today. I answered you elsewhere. ( On my back page?) Cheerio Watkins-Jorgensen (talk) 09:45, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Copy edit still needed?

Would you please review Cuvier's beaked whale and see if you still think it needs the "copy edit" tag? The tag was removed by another user whose edits were reverted, yet the tag is still missing. Much work has been done with the article since you edited the Talk page on 28 December 2020. Thanks in advance. azwaldo (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

I took a look today and made a couple of small edits, the page has certainly come a long long way in the last month or two. I'm content to leave the tag off, if others think it still applies they can reinstate it. Retswerb (talk) 08:22, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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Retswerb (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

My IP is in a Netskope range that has been blocked due to open proxy rules. The range was formerly also globally blocked but that has been recently revised to become a soft block, see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global#Global_unblock_for_163.116.128.0/17 for more discussion on this. I have submitted various UTRS requests which have been denied or have expired, I feel the issue may not have been fully understood from my description. My most recent request was set to status 'EXPIRE' with the comment 'I see nothing I can do via UTRS. Perhaps the Stewards will fix this.' but as far as I can tell the global issue has already been resolved by stewards and my restriction is now up to the local block on 163.116.136.0/22 placed by GeneralNotability. I'd be glad to provide more information or answer any questions that may arise, I'd love to be able to resume editing again when possible. If there is a better avenue than this that I should use for my request please let me know and I will do as advised. Retswerb (talk) 00:18, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Accept reason:

Ah, that explains it! Normally IP Block Exemption is granted via the process laid out at WP:IPECPROXY. I'm aware that they're quite backed up right now (I was just working on those) - so I'll go ahead and grant you IPBE here. ^{!ɘM γɿɘυϘ}⅃ϘƧ 04:45, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Looking at https://www.netskope.com/services, it does not appear to me that they offer internet service. If you are able to help me understand why/how you edit via that range, I can try to help. ^{!ɘM γɿɘυϘ}⅃ϘƧ 03:21, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Frankly I had never heard of them either until digging into this block a little. Per the discussion linked to above, they appear to be a corporate security provider. Much of my editing takes place from a work computer, apparently using Netskope's services. My hope is that I can be given IP Block Exemption so I can continue to edit while logged in. When this block was originally placed back in January I took it as an unintended wikibreak hoping that the situation would resolve itself but I'd love to get back at it now. Retswerb (talk) 04:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you SQL - I appreciate your help with this! I have familiarized myself with the conditions and will comply. Back to editing again! Retswerb (talk) 08:48, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Formatting of discussion thread comments

Regarding this edit and similar ones: as the following is unsolicited advice, please feel free to ignore it, particularly if you are aware of it already. Note the *, :, and # characters introduce different types of lists, and aren't just indent levels. In order to minimize the number of start/end list announcements made by screen reader software used by those with vision problems, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility § Lists and Help:Talk pages § Indentation provide guidance on how to format discussion thread comments. The nutshell summary is if you're the first person replying, copy the prefix from the comment to which you replying, and append the character of your choice. If you're not the first person replying, copy the prefix from the last person who replied at the same nesting level. If you could consider helping to make Wikipedia discussions threads more accessible, it would be highly appreciated.

Going into a bit more detail regarding the effect of your edit for screen readers: you responded to a comment that starts with *: with a reply starting with :::. The comment you were responding to consists of (from right to left) a second-level unbulleted list item nested within a first-level bulleted list item. Your reply consisted of three levels of unbulleted listed items, nested within each other. As this changed the type of the first-level list, screen readers will announce the closure of two lists, and announce the start of three new levels, instead of just announcing the start of one new level if you had used *:: instead. And since the comment below yours starts with *, screen readers will announce the closure of three levels of lists and the start of a new list, instead of just announcing the closure of two lists. This adds up to six extra announcements. Thanks very much for your time. isaacl (talk) 05:23, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

That's helpful, and I appreciate you taking the time to explain it. I saw that previous items had been constructed both as *: and as :* as well as various other colon permutations and incorrectly assumed they were all just different ways of producing the indents. Cheers. Retswerb (talk) 04:40, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Request for interference

Hello Retswerb......I've been watching the Kempegowda International Airport today and I noticed that unnecessary paragraphs have been adding up.....I'm not a confirmed user ....so if try to revert them people warn me of ban....I feel those paragraphs are not required....so request you to watch the page and revert them Adithya003 (talk) 13:38, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm asking you because you previously have reverted those points today....Thanks! Adithya003 (talk) 13:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Agreed, it had a lot of unnecessary material. I'll swing by again later and take another look. Retswerb (talk) 04:50, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Your email

I finally got around to replying. Thanks again. --Blablubbs (talk) 11:13, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @Blablubbs - I appreciate you taking the time! Retswerb (talk) 03:05, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

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Akane Yamaguchi

Hello. Help copy edit. Thanks you. Limpae (talk) 09:15, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

I made a couple of small punctuation fixes. Any reason you've been intent on so many Talk pages to have this article improved? Retswerb (talk) 09:31, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Retswerb: You may be unaware but they are an LTA: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Haiyenslna. Robby.is.on (talk) 09:36, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Not surprised, I glanced at contribs and saw the spam. Retswerb (talk) 09:55, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

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AtYourGate moved to draftspace

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Reverted via WP:DRAFTOBJECT. Article meets WP:NCORP and is still in active development. Retswerb (talk) 03:37, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Do not delete

This article is relevant and sh I understand remain a part of the airlines public history. Autumnlei (talk) 04:27, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Autumnlei! I assume you're referring to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cape_Air_Flight_2072. While I certainly agree that the event was important, it does not meet the criteria laid out in WP:AIRCRASH to have its own article here. It does, however, already have a mention in the "Accidents and incidents" section of Cape Air, which includes references for anyone looking to read more about the flight and its outcome. Retswerb (talk) 09:09, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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AtYourGate moved to draftspace

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@DGG: You are the second to unilaterally draftify, so I have returned it to mainspace. Please AfD instead if you feel it fails WP:NCORP. Retswerb (talk) 03:52, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

now at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AtYourGate , DGG ( talk ) 11:18, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Please suggest

Please suggest me to edit. I was IP user for long and I registered today for edit warning ⚠️. I do respect rules to continue. Please guide me some pages that I can improve and edit I am just normal user. Say a novice with mid level English efficiency. But I don't see mid-level is an issue, if I am not wrong, to continue.

I am from Mizoram. Please suggest accordingly. With best 117.99.213.221 (talk) 08:41, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but I'll post on your talk page momentarily with some links that may be helpful. Retswerb (talk) 09:00, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

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Benild Joseph

Hi there. Benild Joseph, This subject has been significantly covered under Wikipedia:GNG, I have already sufficiently analysis of the sources as well as the topic also, and I request you to kindly re-consider the same. RAJENDRA PAL SINGH (talk) 08:46, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks @Dr vulpes - been a while since I looked into that, I'll check it out. Retswerb (talk) 08:03, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Sounds good and if you have any questions about my experiences or anything just let me know. Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 08:20, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

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Citations in leads

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Just don't want you to have to make extra work for yourself. :)

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RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I

Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

• Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
• Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
• Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
• Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
• Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
• Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
• Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
• Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
• Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
• Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
• Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
• Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
• Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
• Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
• Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
• Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
• Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins

Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

• Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
• Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
• Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
• Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
• Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
• Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
• Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
• Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)