User talk:Ohconfucius/archive28
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Date ranges
editFor some reason, you've updated the script to change "July 14, 2013 – present" to "July 14, 2013–" when selecting "ALL dates to mdy". I don't know that the ability to make that change is especially important (or even brings about a superior style choice), but if it is, why is it forced on the "ALL dates to" action? Surely this should be a standalone action. -Rrius (talk) 11:04, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. You're right. It was a change I made on my test script. It caused too many false positives so I reversed, but I forgot to reverse it on the production script. It's now fixed. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 13:48, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
A Xerxes
editCool hook! But I confess I almost took out the "a" because I assumed Morse would be listening to Handel. Awien (talk) 17:04, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
DYK
editI'm not sure if you have the page in your watchlist, but I brought up two possibilities for the poem at Template:Did you know nominations/On The Receipt Of My Mother's Picture. SL93 (talk) 16:26, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- I had great luck. I found the second publication of the poem in Google Books. SL93 (talk) 21:46, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
LOL
editThanks for that. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:53, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
DRN
editI will not debate the issues you raise as they have some true merit, but I think you have crossed the line of personal attacks on the DRN and I am going to be collapsing some of your comments. If you would like to take a minute to review your posts there and simply strike out the comments I will not need to collapse (a common method to keep discussions on topic). Thanks.--Amadscientist (talk) 04:24, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- He might attend to that, but what gives you the authority to aggressively come in to defeat the purpose of mediation? If you're a volunteer mediator, you should either rethink that strategy or resign from DRN work. Gentler persuasion might be more effective. Tony (talk) 04:32, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Authority? Is that what you think this is? No...it is exactly what we have discussed as our DR/N policy for collapsing. We do not do it without notifying the editor first and allow them a chance to respond or strike out. This was gentle. You were rude and should consider reviewing the guidelines for volunteers at DR/N.--Amadscientist (talk) 04:46, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I've redacted what I suspect you may have found offensive. In return, although she has had her wrist slapped, perhaps you should consider asking Deb to strike the reference to "user who has been blocked no less than eight times in the past five years", per WP:DUCK? -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 04:54, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. That was indeed the remark in question and while Deb's comments are not considered a personal attack they still cross a line of suggesting that you are something not proven which is the exact reason someone would link WP:Duck. Yes, I will check it out and ask for a strike out there as well.--Amadscientist (talk) 04:58, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I see that I have misread the above and it is actually your contention that per WP:DUCK that Deb may have violated something. You cannot violate an essay. Also the quote provided was not the entire quote. Deb said "Citing the opinions of a user who has been blocked no less than eight times in the past five years is hardly likely to change my mind." That is not a personal attack. It isn't nice or even relevant but it is not a personal attack. Block logs are far too often brought up but are not defined as a personal attack.--Amadscientist (talk) 05:05, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I was mentioned in the comment prior to it, and it is pretty clear who she is referring to. She also implies that my opinion carries no weight with her whatsoever. It's like saying "EditorX speaks rubbish and I won't lilsten to it". I don't get... but I'll take your word for it that it's not considered a personal attack. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 05:10, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I find that when someone makes such comments that they are trying to get a rise out of you by belittling your reputation directly to you. I want to be sure to explain myself here. You see what Deb brought up was not personal, but a professional comment on your account activity. I hate that. it is not reflective of you as an editor because you have a block log. Editors are given a great deal of rope with incivility. I don't like that, but many things may seem like an attack on you but in fact is about the subject or the other editor when you break down what they are saying. This is why DR/N has a strict policy of not discussing the contributor, but only the contribution. Wikipedia wants editors to work together and get along, but at the same time we expect each of us to be mature about a difficult situation when criticism is being hurled at your just to throw you off your game. Don't let it happen. Stay focused and on topic and there is no problem,. Well, there is no real problem to begin with here as this is just a volunteer trying to guide the discussion in the direction that we are asked to aim at. A resolution or advice as to where to proceed next. Sorry if I seemed less gentle than some others. I was the editor that suggested that recent change and I still seem to come across as a little "matter of fact".--Amadscientist (talk) 05:26, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I was mentioned in the comment prior to it, and it is pretty clear who she is referring to. She also implies that my opinion carries no weight with her whatsoever. It's like saying "EditorX speaks rubbish and I won't lilsten to it". I don't get... but I'll take your word for it that it's not considered a personal attack. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 05:10, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I see that I have misread the above and it is actually your contention that per WP:DUCK that Deb may have violated something. You cannot violate an essay. Also the quote provided was not the entire quote. Deb said "Citing the opinions of a user who has been blocked no less than eight times in the past five years is hardly likely to change my mind." That is not a personal attack. It isn't nice or even relevant but it is not a personal attack. Block logs are far too often brought up but are not defined as a personal attack.--Amadscientist (talk) 05:05, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. That was indeed the remark in question and while Deb's comments are not considered a personal attack they still cross a line of suggesting that you are something not proven which is the exact reason someone would link WP:Duck. Yes, I will check it out and ask for a strike out there as well.--Amadscientist (talk) 04:58, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I've redacted what I suspect you may have found offensive. In return, although she has had her wrist slapped, perhaps you should consider asking Deb to strike the reference to "user who has been blocked no less than eight times in the past five years", per WP:DUCK? -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 04:54, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Authority? Is that what you think this is? No...it is exactly what we have discussed as our DR/N policy for collapsing. We do not do it without notifying the editor first and allow them a chance to respond or strike out. This was gentle. You were rude and should consider reviewing the guidelines for volunteers at DR/N.--Amadscientist (talk) 04:46, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Roksan Xerxes
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Sorry for annoying you
editIn the span of an hour, both you and Magioladitis used the word "annoying" when responding to one of my requests. If you're referring to the ever-changing "consensus" at Wikipedia, then I share your frustration. However, if you're referring to my request or anything I've done, then I truly apologize if I have upset you.
I really enjoy using your scripts, and find that most articles I visit can be quickly fixed using your scripts. I hope you will continue your great work to improve the scripts. Thanks for everything you do for Wikipedia! GoingBatty (talk) 14:29, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- No, it's not you that's annoying – I just hate it when there is such tugs of war in article namespaces, and more so when they adversely affect the functioning of my scripts. Rest assured that I very much value your comments and suggestions, and in the spirit in which they are given. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 15:12, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Good! I was hoping that's what you meant - just got a bit paranoid when the two of you used the same word to respond to my request. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:13, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Invitation to join a discussion
editThrough this way, I inform there is a discussion about partially disambiguated titles, known as "PDABs". This subguide of WP:D was approved at VPP. I notify you about this because you has participated in at least one RM discussion in which PDAB is cited (in any form). You are welcome to give ideas about the future of this guideline at WT:D or to ignore this message. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:50, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Commonwealth Realms (son of the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge)
editYou noted in your change of "thrones" to "throne" that there was only one throne. This is very much not the case - each of the Commonwealth Realms are constitutionally separate and this is a key point in understanding the relationship between the realms. Yes, they share a head of state in personal union with other countries, but that is all. The fact that the Queen of Australia is also the Queen of Jamaica, or Queen of the United Kingdom, is just "coincidental" in one sense. The separation of the Imperial Crown into distinct, separate crowns all dates back to the Statute of Westminster 1931 and developments since then. Try telling the Canadians that the Queen of Canada isn't the Queen of Canada, and that they are therefore still a British colony, for example, and you are liable to cause a bit of a diplomatic incident! P M C 08:29, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
File:Hank cropped.jpg listed for deletion
editA file that you uploaded or altered, File:Hank cropped.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:49, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Wikilink - Do's and don'ts
editHi there CONFUCIUS, AL "here",
Some of my reactions while undoing you may have been due to utter "wikishock", where i still am. I apologize but "launch" the question (well not only a question): i have learned that we are advised not to link countries, i have tried to comply with that after your efforts much as i find it difficult (again i repeat, what's the point in having an article in for example Spain if it can't be linked?). However, now i discover (here comes my shock) we can't link geographic regions either (that surely does not have anything to do with being common, because - for example - some people in Italy may not have heard about Lombardy, don't get me started on other countries).
With all due respect, what can we link? Attentively, from Portugal --AL (talk) 14:59, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, I try to be a bit more nuanced than "no linking of countries" or "no linkng of regions". While generally there is much too much linking of countries, the problem I see a lot of is links that are "chained" – successively linked terms that are related. My linking practice is to link only to the most germane term, and that means only the most immediately relevant one if there is such a chain. Taking an immediate example I just worked on to illustrate my rule of thumb: we had three related but each successively more remote from the subject in the infobox:
. The subject's birthplace, the most germane, is the town of Shizuoka. I would have no problem linking the birth town. Shizuoka Prefecture and Japan are not as immediately relevant, and are in any event linked from Shizuoka, Shizuoka, so these are not necessary. The infobox would read:|birth_place=
[[Shizuoka, Shizuoka|Shizuoka]], [[Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka]], [[Japan]]
. That way, there are a reduced number of links to distract the reader, but those that are remaining are more targeted to bring greater utility to the reader. I trust that answers your question. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 15:33, 24 July 2013 (UTC)|birth_place=
[[Shizuoka, Shizuoka]], Japan
- Thanks! More discussion: what about if we write, in the start of the body of article (for example) "Born in Mos, Province of Pontevedra", without the Galicia bit, then both can stay linked no?
In another front, i noticed that for example Germans is also delinked even if it is not a country, only an article on demographics (as Portuguese people, French people, etc). Why? Regards as well --AL (talk) 18:45, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- I see you skipped a step in the geographical relationship chain. Notwithstanding, having those links side by side is unlikely to be extremely useful. If the reader clicks and goes to Mos, the first line the reader will see is "Mos is a municipality in Galicia, Spain in the province of Pontevedra and next to Vigo." All the relationships are there. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 00:15, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Why it's on my talk page
editI'm answering here because I don't want a discussion about why that discussion is there in the middle of that discussion. Now that you know, feel free to delete my comment from your user talk page as I deleted yours from mine. Cheers! --B2C 00:04, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
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Matty.007 15:50, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
DYK-Good Article Request for Comment
edit![]() | Did you know ... that since you expressed an opinion on the GA/DYK proposal last year, we invite you to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the matter? Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Regards, Gilderien Chat|What I've done22:56, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
Hi
editWhen you got the time check out the refs on Cornelia Lister and Isak Davidsson. Much appreciated!.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:30, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I think BabbaQ means Isak Arvidsson. GoingBatty (talk) 16:11, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- Oops, yes I was tired when I wrote that. Sorry :)--BabbaQ (talk) 17:34, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- When in time, please chech refs for Sissela Benn. Much appreciated as always.--BabbaQ (talk) 11:05, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- When you got the time check the refs on Linnea Henriksson. Thank you!.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 15:41, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- I made some more changes to these articles. If you use Reflinks to populate reference details, the reference usually need to be fixed afterwards, such as:
- Please use
|language=Swedish
instead of|language={{sv icon}}
, which displays "(in (in Swedish))". - Please don't duplicate the name of the web site in the
|title=
parameter. - Please be sure that the
|author=
parameter only contains the author's name, not the date or time or {username}. - Please don't use Wikipedia articles as references.
- Please use
- Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 23:07, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- It's rather infuriating the amount of incorrectly inserted metadata, and the crap that Reflinks brings in... There's only so much automation can do to remove this crap. Maybe User:Dispenser can be at least asked to reparameter their tool so that the {{sv icon}} is put after the curly brackets of the citation template? -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 01:44, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- Back in January 2012, I requested that Dispenser not use the icon templates at all. Unfortunately, I didn't receive a response. GoingBatty (talk) 03:47, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- It's rather infuriating the amount of incorrectly inserted metadata, and the crap that Reflinks brings in... There's only so much automation can do to remove this crap. Maybe User:Dispenser can be at least asked to reparameter their tool so that the {{sv icon}} is put after the curly brackets of the citation template? -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 01:44, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- I made some more changes to these articles. If you use Reflinks to populate reference details, the reference usually need to be fixed afterwards, such as:
- Thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 15:41, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- When you got the time check the refs on Linnea Henriksson. Thank you!.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- When in time, please chech refs for Sissela Benn. Much appreciated as always.--BabbaQ (talk) 11:05, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Oops, yes I was tired when I wrote that. Sorry :)--BabbaQ (talk) 17:34, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- If you want a challenge I think you should check out the refs on Miss Asia Pacific World a total mess. But as I know you are great at refs I though perhaps you could atleast look at it. I am not the one adding any of the refs to the article by the way. regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 12:40, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- If you could take a look at Thomas Quicks article. I have nominated it for a mention at ITN its a long shot but who knows. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:57, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- If you want a challenge I think you should check out the refs on Miss Asia Pacific World a total mess. But as I know you are great at refs I though perhaps you could atleast look at it. I am not the one adding any of the refs to the article by the way. regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 12:40, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
When you got time check out the refs for Cookies 'N' Beans. Much appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:36, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:32, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- When you got the time check out refs for 2013 Moroccan protests and Daniel Galvan. Thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 11:06, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- Check out refs for Cassidy Wolf when you got time. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:21, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- When you got the time check out refs for 2013 Moroccan protests and Daniel Galvan. Thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 11:06, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I am just here to say well don for getting the page in the news: I thought the DYK would go up first. Will the banner on the article's talk page go up tomorrow? Anyway, the DYK should be up in the next day or two, so watch out for that... Thanks, Matty.007 18:10, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, the DYK got declined because the page was ITN. Matty.007 18:13, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry about effectively pre-empting the DYK. Yes, it's quite normal for the DYK to be refused on those grounds, only I hadn't been following the candidates but wasn't optimistic on getting it posted because of early opposition. The advantage of the ITN is that it stays up on the MP for a lot longer than the six to eight hours for a DYK. ;-) -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 02:08, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- Shame we couldn't have got it DYK, and then ITN. DYK seemed to be quite slow... At least we got it on the main page. Thanks, Matty.007 07:28, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- 9,000 views in one day is quite good though... Matty.007 07:34, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- and we got 3000 hits before the MP lift. :-) -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 07:48, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- 9,000 views in one day is quite good though... Matty.007 07:34, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- Shame we couldn't have got it DYK, and then ITN. DYK seemed to be quite slow... At least we got it on the main page. Thanks, Matty.007 07:28, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Translations of articles
editCould you help me to translate these articles , please ? I need somebody to do this.
fr:Fédération autrichienne de judo (Austrian Judo Federation) fr:Fédération de Norvège de bowling (Norwegian Bowling Federation) fr:Confédération brésilienne de judo (Brazilian Judo Confederation) fr:Fédération hongroise de bridge (Hungarian Bridge Federation)
fr:autrichien (Austrian) fr:norvégien (Norwegian) fr:brésilien (Brazilian) fr:hongrois (Hungarian)
Vitani Nuka (talk) 17:38, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Removing valid links
editHi there. First off, I want to say that your script is awesome - fixing all these minor issues that is too much work to do manually. But, as GiantSnowman told you on 11 June (in this discussion), the script is removing valid links to [[2004 in Norwegian football|2004]] and similar. After that discussion you did a great job with replacing those links with [[2004 Tippeligaen|2004]] and similar, but after I returned from vacation I realized that you've removed a whole lot of those links (particulary on 25 July, 29 July and 30 July). I'd love if you'd stop removing these links (if you haven't removed all of them yet), and instead leave me a message so that I can add more specific links (it's easier to correct links than adding new links imo), if you don't want to replace those links yourself. I'm also curious why you remove "season in Norwegian football", but leave "season in Scottish football" (like in this edit) - these links are exactly the same, the only difference is that the Scottish season starts in August and ends in May, while the Norwegian season starts in March and ends in November. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 09:54, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- Er, yes, sorry about that. It must have been those late-night cooking sessions. ;-) I've gone back and fixed them – the ones that you didn't catch. The reason why "Scottish football" isn't removed is that I must have neglected putting that into the list, although I ought to (to be consistent). Thanks. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 02:35, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Admiral Sir Sandy Woodward
editI have added back one of the reactions and included some reasoning on the Talk page. FerdinandFrog (talk) 11:25, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Is more metadata a good or bad thing
editWhat's with Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Theo's_Little_Bot_25, and has anything been learnt since this RfC? -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 06:21, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Lon
editHiya, I had a thought after your deletion of the Lon quotation... I think Snowden's father is as important as the officials like presidents, when considering additions for the Edward Snowden article. But it doesn't matter what I think, it is supported by reliable sources in the US, where Lon Snowden gets quite a bit of coverage, his opinion and comments are on national news and cable news. If this article focussed on the political implications of Snowden only, his father would be superfluous, but for this article, it seems very fitting. petrarchan47tc 01:32, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- What u say is fair enough. Let me just say that this is a biography, and what Lonnie thinks about Putin's "principled stand" is recentist and isn't at all biographical. What he says about his son is important. The media are hungry for sound bytes, and so it's natural that they would want his comments on things regarding any matter that might affect his now infamous son. But I don't see why the bio should include Lonnie's opinion on this that and the world. What's more, Putin seems not to want Snowden on his patch, and is only there because he is constrained by Russian law. If u ask me, Vlad would probably sell his mother if it served his interests, but that's bye the bye. Having said that, I have no objections if you put the removed stuff back for now. We can always re-evaluate the existence of same at some later date. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 02:31, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- Im in agreement, but not sure what your opinion of Vlad has to do with this? Anyway, it seems that the revocation of the passport whilst Snowden was in transition means the US is at fault for Snowden's choice of residence. petrarchan47tc 16:51, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- My common about Vlad was, as I say, just a bye the bye – a digression. Yes, the US tried to force Ed into a corner, but could they have predicted what corner he would head for... -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 00:46, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
- Im in agreement, but not sure what your opinion of Vlad has to do with this? Anyway, it seems that the revocation of the passport whilst Snowden was in transition means the US is at fault for Snowden's choice of residence. petrarchan47tc 16:51, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Could use an extra eyeball or two on this...
editWhile doing some scanning for odd tag combos, I found that one of your cleanup edits was followed up by someone else's scrambling. My inclination is to reunify, but wanted to let you take a look first. Dl2000 (talk) 02:40, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- At first, I thought it might have been a hatchet job, but a number of references were populated, and the dates reformatted. I've just put them back to dmy – all HK articles should follow dmy, but I haven't got round to aligning them all yet. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 03:08, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- OK thanks, understood that there is plenty to do with HK subjects, among other places. In other news, looks like it's official, I'm a vandal for doing this. Dl2000 (talk) 01:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Linnea Henriksson
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DYK for Cookies 'N' Beans
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hello, im curious of what have been sorted exactly in [here], to me looks like that your script just removed useful content from the page Argento1985 01:12, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) In case Ohconfucius is busy, that edit was actually by SporkBot, apparently because the template in question was deleted. Note that diffs will have the change on the right side, while left side represents the previous version. This was the edit by Ohconfucius, and it didn't seem to remove any content other than to delink a couple of common terms. Dl2000 (talk) 03:35, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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Protocol relative
editA few of your scripts were not using protocol relative inclusion links yet, so I fixed them. Hope you don't mind. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:11, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, thank you for fixing the ones I missed. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 15:17, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Leif "Loket" Olsson
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Publishers
editHi, recently you had fixed the script of two articles Aphrodite (song) and Can't Get You Out of My Head. First of all, thank you doing that. Secondly, your edit removed a lot of publishers, and changed some into the work parameter. I remember one user told me that those sources which do not have any other publisher or owner should not use the work parameter and use the publisher parameter. Should I add the publishers again or is there a specific reason for that? --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 13:22, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up. My removals are, I think, solely publishers of periodicals, and this is done pursuant to instructions in Template:citation, and only when the "
|work=
" field contains a periodical title. For example, "|publisher=
[[Telegraph Media Group]]" was removed from |work=[[The Daily Telegraph]]|publisher=[[Telegraph Media Group]]" as being redundant. Only one of|publisher=
" and "|work=
" needs to be populated, as they are used for almost the same purpose otherwise, the sole difference being periodical titles are italicised – as are book titles – ("work"), and publishers such as most websites and television stations ("publisher") are not. For more detailed explanation of my modus operandi, kindly refer to the script documentation. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 16:04, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Dts/Dtsa/Date sortable templates
editThere is some merger discussion of {{dts}} and {{dtsa}} which may (or may not) affect your scripts: Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013 August 15#Template:Dts. And to add to the fun, there is a {{Date sortable}} template out there which should probably also be merged. I don't think your scripts are handling that one, although it seems to be geared towards video game articles. Dl2000 (talk) 15:33, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
AWB
editHi! You need to upgrade to 5.5.1.2 or later. Network failure handling has changed making AWB more reliable. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:00, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- I seem to recall it does the upgrade automatically. I guess it must have been disabled. I'll get the new version, thanks. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 07:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- Auto-upgrade is only for critical updates and when a version is disabled. Soon 5.5.1.1 (today or tomorrow) will be disabled. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:35, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Clean up of A Harlot's Progress
editNice script you've developed! Thanks for the tidy-up of the "A Harlot's Progress" article.
While I've gathered that linking to major towns, countries and regions seems to have become an issue, I've had to qualify the fact that the 'London' being referred to is the one in England by adding 'the English artist' to William Hogarth. While it may seem abundantly clear to the majority of us that it's THE London, the article lead doesn't contain anything else that would make the fact evident.
I'm also finding myself wondering why certain interwiki links were removed entirely. For example, while there were repetitions of links to prostitute, the first one should remain in place. Acknowledged that it was entered by someone as 'prostitute' rather that prostitute but, as that redirects to the correct page, shouldn't you be able to pick up on it when there were three linked instances in the article with only the subsequent repetitions in need of being removed?
I'm not sure whether this is a potential problem from the scripting side of the things, or whether it was simply an inadvertent error on your behalf. (Or, maybe, you think it's terribly rude, in which case you'd better delete the Venereal disease link, too! ) Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 07:03, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know how to make the script unlink all but the first instance. Although it's true that the word 'prostitute' should not be unlinked in some articles and some contexts, but I figured that it is deemed a sufficiently "common term" for anyone of over grade 6 education, so chose to include its unlinking. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 07:08, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- On reflection, I actually I agree with you. There are so many pages linking to each other for no apparent reason other than the fact there is a corresponding page. Quite a few I've worked on are like that and, where it is merely a matter of a basic vocabulary, I'm with you on paring down unnecessary markup. It quite simply distracts from the subject at hand unless it leads to qualification/clarification/elaboration of terminology as used in the context of the article or events specific to the article. I'm glad to find that there's obviously consensus on this matter... so I'll be doing some cleaning up myself! Wishing you all the best in hunting down and cutting the fat! Your work is greatly appreciated. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 10:32, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Instrument wikilinks
editPlease do not remove wikilinks from instruments in the Personnel section of an article, such as you did at 13 (Black Sabbath album). Per WP:MOSALBUM, we wikilink instruments in the personnel section. Additionally, I question some of your other edits there, such as changing quoted material, changing capital letters in website titles in citations, or changing hyphens to dashes in website titles in citations that are actually hyphens in the website title. What guideline/MOS/policy says to change quoted material or to change title case/punctuation? Please elaborate. In the meantime, I'm reverting several of those questionable/incorrect changes. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 16:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- The changes from hyphens to dashes is in line with MOS:DASH; the downcasing of prepositions of fewer than five letters is in compliance with MOS:CAPS. Both are, in any event minor typographic changes that are permissible, and do not affect anyone performing string searches for the titles in question. By the same token, titles are not immutable and are also expected to comply with style guidelines – the most obvious is where the 'titles' from online sources are in block capitals, these are systematically downcased when we incorporate them. You are free to revert, I won't war with you. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 17:07, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think MOS:DASH applies to website titles in citations, just to actual article content. Same with MOS:CAPS, neither say to change website titles in citations. However, neither of these is a huge deal, but my wholesale revert did remove those changes (I manually re-added the good changes you made, about 50% of the edit).
- You've made some other errors at Black Sabbath (album) as well, please take a look at the history to see what reversions I made (for example, "eponymous" is not a proper noun, and thus should not be capitalised), so that your future edits do not make these same mistakes. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 17:19, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- Again, stop removing wikilinks from instruments in album articles. I have undone your edits to some more articles. Read WP:MOSALBUM and learn. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 09:49, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- I wouldn't object if you were reinstating links to more unusual or esoteric instruments that I remove (FYI, there are not that many of those latter ones on my list), but reverting my edits merely to put back banal links such as [[Singing|vocals]], [[bass guitar|bass]], [[guitar]]s, [[Drum kit|drums]], throwing out 'good' changes with the 'bad' counts as vandalism in my book, but I won't revert you. Telling me to "learn" from MOSALBUM is patronising. Any second-grader will know what these are without the link, and it's totally unnecessary to have these linked. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 09:59, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- If you had listened the first time, I wouldn't have to wholesale revert your changes (I'm not wasting more time attempting to restore half your edits). WP:MOSALBUM explicitly says to wikilink these instruments, WP:OVERLINK does not explicitly say not to wikilink instruments, and your opinion to ignore WP:MOSALBUM is not supported by any consensus (consensus on WP, as shown at MOSALBUM, is to wikilink those instruments). If you disagree, start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:MOSALBUM and maybe they'll amend that, but for now your edits are not supported by wider consensus.
- Please directly quote from WP:VAND exactly how my revert is vandalism. If not, please strike-out your accusation of vandalism, as it is incorrect. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 10:09, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- You are so funny to get all uppity and indignant. I never said you were a vandal. I just said: "throwing out 'good' changes with the 'bad' counts as vandalism in my book" (further emphasis is mine). Even if the action described (rejecting good changes when there are also a small number of changes you consider "bad") isn't vandalism as defined by the policy, it's pretty pointy. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 11:12, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- I am not disrupting Wikipedia to make a point, I am reverting poor edits that go against the consensus held on Wikipedia. Fix your script to stop removing wikilinks that should not be removed, or I can bring this to WP:ANI and we can have it sorted it out there. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 18:32, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- I suspect the problem may be your reliance on MOSALBUM and ignoring MOS:LINK. MOSALBUM is a project-level guideline that does not have primacy over the global consensus. Your reading of MOSALBUM is too literal. It says "The forms of participation (for example instruments) should be written in lowercase, delimited by commas, and linked on the first occurrence only", and it's pretty clear by that it supports the thrust of WP:Linking not to overdo familiar links. It doesn't mandate anyone to link every first occurrence but implies that you link only on the first occurrence, and only where a link is warranted. Its wording just needs to be tweaked. General consensus does not support links to terms that any second-grader will know and which are not important to the understanding of the subject. Nothing will be sorted out at ANI, and I suspect you know it. You need to go to WT:MOS (or perhaps WT:Linking) to see if you have a correct understanding of the guidelines' hierarchy. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 03:31, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Look, I'm not going to argue this here any more. Your interpretation of MOS:LINK (and that's all it is, an interpretation, as MOS:LINK does not explicitly say "do not link instruments") does not agree with the consensus gained at WP:MOSALBUM. If you think MOSALBUM shouldn't tell people to link instruments, then get the discussion started there to change what it says. Until that is changed, I will continue to revert any edits you make that remove these links. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 15:57, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I think that the discussion on this page is over. I have told you it's now't to do with consensus at MOSALBUM but at WP:Linking. MOSALBUM doesn't tell people to link, but advises them how not to link. If someone wants to make themself look like a dick, there's precious little I can do after I've explained and advised. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 16:14, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Look, I'm not going to argue this here any more. Your interpretation of MOS:LINK (and that's all it is, an interpretation, as MOS:LINK does not explicitly say "do not link instruments") does not agree with the consensus gained at WP:MOSALBUM. If you think MOSALBUM shouldn't tell people to link instruments, then get the discussion started there to change what it says. Until that is changed, I will continue to revert any edits you make that remove these links. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 15:57, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- I suspect the problem may be your reliance on MOSALBUM and ignoring MOS:LINK. MOSALBUM is a project-level guideline that does not have primacy over the global consensus. Your reading of MOSALBUM is too literal. It says "The forms of participation (for example instruments) should be written in lowercase, delimited by commas, and linked on the first occurrence only", and it's pretty clear by that it supports the thrust of WP:Linking not to overdo familiar links. It doesn't mandate anyone to link every first occurrence but implies that you link only on the first occurrence, and only where a link is warranted. Its wording just needs to be tweaked. General consensus does not support links to terms that any second-grader will know and which are not important to the understanding of the subject. Nothing will be sorted out at ANI, and I suspect you know it. You need to go to WT:MOS (or perhaps WT:Linking) to see if you have a correct understanding of the guidelines' hierarchy. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 03:31, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- I am not disrupting Wikipedia to make a point, I am reverting poor edits that go against the consensus held on Wikipedia. Fix your script to stop removing wikilinks that should not be removed, or I can bring this to WP:ANI and we can have it sorted it out there. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 18:32, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- You are so funny to get all uppity and indignant. I never said you were a vandal. I just said: "throwing out 'good' changes with the 'bad' counts as vandalism in my book" (further emphasis is mine). Even if the action described (rejecting good changes when there are also a small number of changes you consider "bad") isn't vandalism as defined by the policy, it's pretty pointy. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 11:12, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- I wouldn't object if you were reinstating links to more unusual or esoteric instruments that I remove (FYI, there are not that many of those latter ones on my list), but reverting my edits merely to put back banal links such as [[Singing|vocals]], [[bass guitar|bass]], [[guitar]]s, [[Drum kit|drums]], throwing out 'good' changes with the 'bad' counts as vandalism in my book, but I won't revert you. Telling me to "learn" from MOSALBUM is patronising. Any second-grader will know what these are without the link, and it's totally unnecessary to have these linked. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 09:59, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Again, stop removing wikilinks from instruments in album articles. I have undone your edits to some more articles. Read WP:MOSALBUM and learn. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 09:49, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Your script changes to film articles
editI noticed on three Hitchcock film articles where you used your script to make changes that I believe are incorrect. Film nationalities are not based on the film director's nationality but the production companies' nationalities. Besides the three Hitchcock film articles I first noticed, I found twenty-three more that are American films that did not need changed and three other film articles where three different editors had already reverted your script changes. I identified the films based on their categories, if there were only American film categories then the changes were reverted and if there was a combination of American/other country film categories, I left them alone, although it is hard to see in these cases how they could have a strong tie to one set of dates over the other and probably should have been left alone. Aspects (talk) 06:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- It would be helpful if you would join the discussion I started here instead of reverting back to your preferred version. A film is not the work of one artist, i.e. the director, but of many people. WP:TIES does apply to these film articles, but to American dates/spellings since these are American films made by American production companies, placed only in American film categories and no other national film categories. Please stop making these changes and discuss the issue here. Aspects (talk) 07:06, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Crossed conversation. See your talk. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 07:08, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Your script changes to island articles
editI just saw your changes to Papa Stour, which I have reverted. There were various problems, including:
- changing Scottish English to British for no apparent reason.
- inconsistent with the syntax of the infobox - it uses "local council" not 'local authority'
- created inconsistent use of capitals in the Ecology section
- changed Papa, Scotland to Papa Scotland, which is not the same thing at all and is a dab page. Ben MacDui 07:54, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. I noticed those and have fixed my script accordingly. I'd just add that Scottish English is subsumed within British English, and the script changes are identical. There are only a small number of articles in that category so this is a merger in progress. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 08:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Similar problems at Renewable energy in Scotland which I will attend to asap. Ben MacDui 07:57, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'll check that one too. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 08:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- I checked through Renewable energy - not too bad. I don't understand what you mean by a "merger" - they are are not the same thing and having a small number of articles linked isn't a reason for removing those that are! Ben MacDui 08:05, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Concur; kind of defeats the purpose of WP:TIES notifications to "subsume" them into a broader cat. Mutt Lunker (talk) 08:09, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know if you are experimenting or what but this is beginning to look like edit warring at both articles. Please desist. Ben MacDui 08:14, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- You told me there were problems, and I fixed them. You did not mention the unlinking and I though that you agreed that the article was overlinked, so I went and ran the script with the errors corrected. In case you hadn't noticed, I also fixed a bunch of duff references in the latter. Instead of a word of thanks, you accuse me of edit warring. I'm sad :..-( -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 08:23, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- I am sorry you are sad and I appreciate that your script does do good work and that your are fixing things. The reason I am concerned is that as noted above it also seems to change "Scottish English" to "British English" and there does not seem to be a clearly articulated reason for this. When you ran the scripts again this issue was repeated. If you have fixed this, then there is no problem. Ben MacDui 17:24, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- These changes of "Use Scottish English" to "Use British English" seem to be concentrated (as far as I can tell) between 6:56 and 7:38 yesterday, the 5th. I've reverted a handful manually but there are a lot of them. Could you correct the remainder please?
- I don't know if you are experimenting or what but this is beginning to look like edit warring at both articles. Please desist. Ben MacDui 08:14, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Concur; kind of defeats the purpose of WP:TIES notifications to "subsume" them into a broader cat. Mutt Lunker (talk) 08:09, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Also, has the issue been corrected now for any future edits? Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:41, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- It's going to be far too cumbersome to partially revert these edits manually and on the assumption that no reply means the script is still creating errors, I'll start fully rolling back this tranche of edits when I get a chance, so you can re-address them when the script is fixed. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:15, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
- No worries - shall I go ahead with the rolling back then on these edits prior to running the scripts on them again, or is there a better way of addressing the issue? Mutt Lunker (talk) 15:10, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
- Sure. Since I have lost track of which articles they were, please do that, and I'll run the script on them again in due course. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 15:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
- Done; turns out there weren't quite as many as I'd had the impression. Mutt Lunker (talk) 03:44, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- No, those categories were small, as I said. Thanks. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 04:07, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Done; turns out there weren't quite as many as I'd had the impression. Mutt Lunker (talk) 03:44, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Sure. Since I have lost track of which articles they were, please do that, and I'll run the script on them again in due course. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 15:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Continued changing of date format on films
editYou or your bot continue to make the controversial changes on films as you did here, even after at least two separate editors have expressed concerns that you are doing so against WP:DATERET, WP:RETAIN, and WP:STRONGNAT. Please stop doing this or it may only be a matter of time until we are forced to discuss this at ANI since you appear to refuse to stop making these changes.--JOJ Hutton 13:12, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Are you stalking me? You made a mess by reverting me here, as the dates were predominately dmy; and you removed some other formatting improvements, such as "the eight-mile distance". Anyway, I started a discussion at WT:FILM. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 13:58, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Not stalking per say, but I have just had enough of your mass changes to several articles that clearly should not have their dates changed. WP:DATERET clearly states Where an article has shown no clear sign of which format is used, the first person to insert a date is equivalent to "the first major contributor. The first dates introduced into that article were clearly MDY, and so it should remain, same as spelling.--JOJ Hutton 14:06, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not going to risk editing that article again, for fear of being accused of edit warring. But the article's dates in the current version are inconsistent (and contain leading zeros), so if you will be kind enough to put them how you think they should belong. Thanks, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 14:11, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Not stalking per say, but I have just had enough of your mass changes to several articles that clearly should not have their dates changed. WP:DATERET clearly states Where an article has shown no clear sign of which format is used, the first person to insert a date is equivalent to "the first major contributor. The first dates introduced into that article were clearly MDY, and so it should remain, same as spelling.--JOJ Hutton 14:06, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
MOSNUM dates
editIn this edit you modified the date format of two files. Please modify your script, so such changes are not made anymore. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:10, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Reply to your post on the Talk Page of the Brazilian Hip Hop article
editI replied to your post. You can find it here oh wise one:
I have a question for you. Who asked for your opinion or input?
Don't give me that crap about its a collaborative encyclopedia. There are over four million articles - you made a choice to involve yourself. So answer the question: Who asked for your opinion or input?
I certainly didn't.
Sluffs (talk) 21:59, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
lol. You don't get to insult me on The Brazilian Hip Hop Talk Page while keeping your "sicko" remark out of your Talk Page. So for all future readers of this Talk Page - here's the text in full and uncensored from The Brazilian Hip Hop Talk Page:
START START START
The "no one done apartheid" issue - 1991 report and quote
editBelow is some text quoting incidents and figures from 1991. I've removed it because it suggests continuity to the present. This is what I term a "no one done apartheid" issue. As you know everyone in South Africa had nothing to do with apartheid. No one was too blame. All the Boers were liberals really, they just couldn't show that sensitive side of themselves at that current time. No one killed Biko - he hit his head after being restrained. You get the idea - truth and reconciliation evidently means everyone hugged each other and immediately got amnesia.
The text I removed will be rewritten and placed in its historical context. Here's the text:
REMOVED TEXT
Additionally, police brutality against poor African-Brazilian youth in Rio and São Paulo is also a salient issue incorporated into Brazilian rap. According to George Yudice, "in 1991 in São Paulo alone, the military police killed 876 street youth."[1] Impoverished Brazilian youth use hip hop as a voice to speak out against the high rate of murder and violence committed by the authorities against young people.
END
Sluffs (talk) 20:30, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Did a quick search and the UN and other bodies are still pressing for something to be done about the "death squads". I'm going to leave it out of the article for the moment since this is a universal - authority kills sometimes. The social, cultural and political factors are so varied that it makes it a difficult area to integrate into a music article.
Sluffs (talk) 21:12, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
User:GoingBatty is here. He's used his bot (see Edit History) to signal that he his keeping his beady moral eye on me. GoingBatty is a scoutmaster who wants to scoutmaster the world. His son is a scout and that is his right but he has no right to scoutmaster me. He has no right to exert moral judgements either. I proposed before that we have a vigilante here and that his stalking of "uncomfortable for him edits" as made by others while under the guise of being an active editor is nothing more than a front for his conservatism.
Steven Biko was killed by the South African police. The court transcripts are a shocking indictment upon the racist system of Apartheid. GoingBatty wants you to know that he considers me "batty" or "going batty". Go scoutmaster the scout articles please - you have no interest in Brazilian Hip Hip - why are you here?
Sluffs (talk) 21:37, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- BattyBot has made over 380,000 edits, so it's likely that it's going to edit an article you're interested in once in a while. Please note that the edit in question was only to add {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} to the talk page, and did not address any editor's activities. I am not watching this page, and only came here based on your note on my talk page. GoingBatty (talk) 00:03, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- It's mighty strange. I see no significant removals or indeed edits to the article by anyone except Sluffs in the last two weeks. The accusations also seem to be very strong, are unfounded and lacking in good faith. Maybe there is a source of stress we are not aware of. Time to chill. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 13:50, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
lol. Regardless of intent or accident - I actually wish that GoingBatty would listen to my request and avoid pages that I'm working on. GoingBatty was (and still is) not interested in Brazilian Hip Hop unless he's a secret gangster rapper. Maybe after a hard day in the hood with his scout charges this scoutmaster relaxes by expressing himself through rap. Anyway I'm bored by him and a whole bunch of other editors - all of whom seem to be here either as incognito moralists, conservatives, protectors of childhood, nationalists, etc. I imagine that many of the neo-nazi groups are here also. Its my experience of right-wingers that on the whole they don't want you to know what they are up too. I remember an arts center open mic night which I was attending being infiltrated by five or six or them. It was a surreal situation because none of them were actually musicians - they pretended to be comedians which allowed them the right to attend and perform. The woman who ran the night and who had no idea of how the BNP (British National Party) worked had put one of them in charge. I emailed the arts center due to the fact that I knew some of the people who ran the open mic nights (including the woman who had been put in overall charge and had made the decision to put him in charge) and got an email back saying the open mic nights were for everyone regardless of their political views. A week or two later I received another email saying that the arts center had decided to separate the comedy from the music by having separate nights for both. I'm not too sure why but I do know that at one of the open mic nights the leader of this small BNP cell had been put in charge and after one of the singers had finished (she was colored) he said something that was really strange. I can't say what because people who were there may be reading this but it was racist. About a hundred people witnessed and heard what he said and everyone just sat silently in shock not knowing how to react - after all he was in charge. Now that is power. When you can persuade others that your intent is one thing and then position yourself to impose your will or views upon those who believe your original lie - well that is political power. Its not even a right wing thing since many left wing leaders have used to same ploy. It is the nature of a dogmatic personality who is seeking power to follow such a course when faced with opposition to their dogma. Here's what happened after the torrent scene released the membership list of the BNP and I spotted that one of them was a town planning consultant employed by my local council. I sent an email to my council of course. Evidently my council believe that hiring a BNP member as a town planning consultant for one of the most highly diverse ethnic towns in England was fine because his racist views shouldn't affect his ability to provide good advice. lol
Sluffs (talk) 21:51, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Sicko. Mike Godwin was sooo right. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 11:13, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
That old chestnut Godwin's Law. Here's a new one: Sluffs Law - whenever anyone throws Godwin's Law at you then you can assume that they are not a member of a minority and have no idea of what you are talking about. lol
Sluffs (talk) 22:33, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
END END END
Thought I'd come back and add that some members of minorities are so scared of what can happen to them when facing a majority power that they just go along with majority consensus to avoid personal discomfort. Its important to understand this since it helps explain why certain Jews in the concentration camps chose to work with the Nazis. In that case Sluffs Law can take the form: whenever a member of a minority throws Godwin's Law at you then you can assume they have a very deep understanding of what you are talking about but don't wish to be put in the uncomfortable position of taking on a larger and more powerful majority.
Sluffs (talk) 00:15, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Not the case in my experience. You know a lot about Nazism, well bully for you! The "Nazi/Hitler" accusations are usually trotted out by someone clutching at straws when they are losing an argument. It often has the effect of scaring off the adversary, since nobody wants to be called by those terms. Sure it ends the discussion, but maybe not in the way you might think. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 01:35, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Actually I was accusing GoingBatty of Scoutism which in the way he practices it seems to resemble Nazism. Honestly he was sneaking around soliciting opinions from other editors right off the bat after a post I left on the Beatles Talk Page. I thought it was all a bit "Night of the Long Knives".
Maybe he would make a good gangster rapper with his penchant for gang leadership. lol
Sluffs (talk) 11:25, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
One Corpse Too Many -- vandalism of reference's url
editThanks for all your changes to spelling, date formats, use of dashes, etc in this entry. I did not appreciate that you randomly altered part of the long string that is the url for Ref 8 in the article. I have fixed it now, so the link goes directly to the google book of the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica article on Shrewsbury Castle, on page 1022. Please leave that unchanged.
I do not understand why you are undoing links to the 'year in literature' articles, and to the 'year in British television' articles. It took me time to get each book in its proper year, and to make sure the television adaptations were correctly described as to series, episode and year, and matching that overall page as well as IMDb information. Not every novel was adapted for television. So I put those links back, for consistency across The Cadfael Chronicles articles in Wikipedia, the 20 novels and one short story collection.
Is this some new rule in Wikipedia, though the articles for the year in literature and year in television still exist? Prairieplant (talk) 00:45, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
- There is general consensus that [[Year in Topic|2000]] used in the way they were in those articles constitutes easter eggs and should be avoided. If you would like to feature the "year in" link, you should do so transparently, by using the parenthetical method (such as in here), or put those links into the see also section of the articles concerned. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 08:02, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- So if I write out 1984 in literature, then it is okay? I was following someone before me, and this is the first time I heard of the term Easter eggs for links to Wikipedia articles. I will go through all the articles to make them consistent and not hide Easter Eggs.Prairieplant (talk) 23:32, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- You might do it like the example I gave above, or you may choose to put it in the 'see also' section. It's up to you. Those links won't be disturbed. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 01:38, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Revived interest in Infernal Affairs
editInvitation to participate in the poll for Infernal Affairs.
From your edits for the film Infernal Affairs there is presently a poll taking place on The Departed film Talk page regarding whether you believe a separate subsection should be included for (a) Infernal Affairs as a source for the plot of The Departed film, and/or (b) a second subsection for the recently captured crime figure Whitey Bulger as the source for the character played by Jack Nicholson in the film.
The recent capture of Bulger has revived the question from two years ago of Infernal Affairs from when it did have a separate subsection on The Departed film page which was deleted by User:RepublicanJ, now known as User:OldJ. Invite to visit The Departed Talk page, to the Bulger section at the end of the Page, to participate in the Poll currently taking place. 208.120.96.227 (talk) 11:01, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
formatgeneral
editHi,
I was asking you if you would modularize your script User:Ohconfucius/script/formatgeneral.js (see this archived thread).
I made an attempt and my first test looks good. Would you check if you could seperate your script as I did at?
BTW: why do you declare the variable txt? mabdul 16:04, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sorry for having archived your request without dealing with it. I took a look at AutoEd and then spent too long wondering.
As to my formatting script, I'm not a programmer, and really don't have much of a clue how to write a script. I just copied the backbone from somebody, and plugged my own regexes into it. Actually, the txt declaration is now redundant because the imported pathos script replaces its function. Sure, I can break up the formatting script into smaller chunks, but I wouldn't know what to do with the rest of the code if I were to declare the variable
string
. I'd be prepared to reformat it to your specifications if you give me some specific instructions and programming help when I get stuck. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 16:38, 9 September 2013 (UTC) - Please see User:Ohconfucius/test/formatgeneral.js and User:Ohconfucius/test/formatgeneral.js/core.js.
- Hey great! And keep in mind: WP:NODEADLINE. ;-) mabdul 18:01, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Another script user
editGood news, someone new just started using the scripts, although there may be some WP:DATERET issues e.g. [1]. Anyway, gotta run for now... Dl2000 (talk) 04:12, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Unjustified edits for British spellings
editHello, a few days ago you have made some so-called “script assisted fixes” to OCAD University, replacing the article’s correct Canadian spellings with British ones. I find this edit unjustified, as there is no preference for British spelling on Wikipedia; and for an article describing a Canadian school, Canadian spelling is perfectly appropriate.
Worse, your edits have broken a number of links on the page. This is not acceptable.—Al12si (talk) 17:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, Al12. Looks like a good multiple edit to me, aside from "emphasised" and any other non-Canadian spellings introduced. Sometimes it's possible to make a mistake when gnoming, but typically it's to a tiny proportion of articles worked on. Tony (talk) 19:56, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry 'bout that. I don't even know how that got onto my work list, but that's by-the-by. I see you have already remedied some of it, but I ran the Canadian spellings module on it for good measure. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 01:25, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Amazing :)) Much appreciation for your sorting the date formats (saved me so much time reverting my error) and also for the detailed tidy up of these articles. :)Bodney (talk) 01:56, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- You're welcome. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 02:01, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Breaking image links by correcting the hyphens
editDear Ohconfucius, please don't edit the hyphens in image links, it breaks the link and the images are lost from the page. See the edits you did for Newlands Forest ( 02:14, 20 May 2013 ). I couldn't revert the change, so I had to laboriously re-insert and correct each image. Abu Shawka (talk) 16:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- My bad. Sorry about that. I didn't realise that was a gallery, and it would have been correct syntax otherwise. Also I didn't realise the dashes script fails to preserve these intact. I'll make a mental note to be more careful about galleries. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 17:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Here is a barnstar for you!
editThe Cleanup Barnstar | ||
I appreciate your work!!! SoftFeta (talk) 11:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC) |
Hi
editWhen you got the time please check out the refs on Hildegard Björck. Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:49, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- Done. Please note that I gave the article a slight copyedit. I boldly changed the blockquote, which I presume you translated. There are still parts of the article that are ambiguous, but I am unable to change it because I don't understand the story and I may introduce errors. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 09:53, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- The article tells in broad terms how passionately she felt about prostitution, and I think it would be interesting to expand on how she helped to combat it. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 10:25, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
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Date Formats
editFirst of all thank you for letting me know, but per MOS Acceptable Date Formats we can use D MMMM YYYY, MMMM D, YYYY Everywhere in Wiki articles but D MMM YYYY, MMM D, YYYY, YYYY-MM-DD Only in references, tables, lists or areas etc., Regards, Raghusri (talk) 11:18, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, but as I said, conflicting formats (e.g. dmy and mdy) should not be used in the same article, to preserve consistency. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 11:21, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- Reply for you edit to Pokiri (2006 film): " " 12:00, 24 September 2013 Ohconfucius (talk | contribs) . . (17,334 bytes) (-50) . . (It's not just as simple as to tag the article, the dates should actually be consistent too) (undo | thank) " " : Yeah! you are right, even i wanted to Ask you about : " Why the Date formats are not changed after adding the Template, the Answer is : We have to manually modify them isn't it? Please help me :) " Regards, Raghusri (talk) 13:17, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed, the process of changing the date formats isn't automatic. The {{use dmy dates}} is a maintenance template, a marker if you will, that simply indicates when that alignment work was done. Please refer to the template and script documentation. Also, as this encyclopaedia is first and foremost for English-speakers, the primary units should be ones that they understand, and the lakh and crore are not accessible, as they say. There is consensus that units should be millions and billions, and use of the lakh and crore be restricted to the citations for purposes of verification. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 18:40, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for the Valuable Info., Regards Raghusri (talk) 13:40, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
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More gnoming soon?
editI've got a pile of GANs and a lot of work done, but the conflicts in A&M have made me desire to do more gnoming. How has your script evolved in the last couple of months? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 14:21, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- It's been a bit lonely here :-( and I've been adding and testing a lot of new rules in my various scripts. I haven't done so yet, but many of these should be incorporated into the AWB module. You will be welcome to take the next round of test drive (with the new rules) sometime next week. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 09:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Sarocharu
editThank you so much for Co-operating with me Politely. Consensus reached in that Article's Talk page Discussion and i'm changing the Date formats to those Indian articles i contribute daily to DMY per Ties, Strong NAT :) Raghusri (talk) 11:09, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Maicon Sisenando RM
editHi there. You participated in a move-discussion for Maicon Sisenando in February 2013. I've now opened a new RM, where I propose that this footballer is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I hope you take the opportunity to participate in the discussion. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 09:22, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Some IP trouble
editSeems variable sock IPs are doing things like this; could have swore this was first format, or was I missing a WP:TIES factor or something? Thx. Dl2000 (talk) 02:15, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Westgate shopping mall shooting
editI just edite conflcited, but "Jeez, why don't you discuss it on the talk page per BRD when your BOLD move was reverted. There is adiscussion there.Further , when there is a tag that clearly means to DISCUSS not to remove it becasue you deem personally unwarranted. There is no consensus for your version of censorship and removal of comments. Conversely if you bother to READ then you will find we have started to maek compromises. Most stats are only mentioned in name and not comment.!!!
- In which moronic world is Zuma, Cameron and obama not "gratuitous rhetoric" but Somalia is not notable? DO you noknow what the articleis about? You wrote "expressed his condolences".../and how does not "gratuitous rhetoric"? Please kindly keep your flagrant pov out(Lihaas (talk) 18:54, 24 September 2013 (UTC)).
- Well yes. I hate that too, but I think you wanted all of the reactions including all the rhetoric, so these were left as a list of countries and citations for all who might be interested to read further to find out who denounced the attack as "dastardly" or "cowardly". My removal isn't personal per se, so please go to the article talk page. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 19:22, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
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