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Nomination for deletion of Template:Bengali culture

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Account Information

As the the online ambassador for the Canada Education Program course Environment and Society I was hoping you could help me. I've lost my account and Wikipedia doesn't seem to send me an email when I request password retrieval. What else should I do to try and get my account back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.73.172.253 (talk) 10:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

TFL

Hey Neelix, hope you're well. I've done a quick run through a few more nominations at TFL, just in case you miss my comments. I think we're clear up to early May, but it would be great if you could have a look at FA Cup winners for me as that's next up for listing as long as it meets our current standards. Thanks again for all you do, and all the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:39, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Dispute resolution survey

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A kitten for you!

WIKIPEDIA IS KITTENS!

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Water Margin

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Lonelydarksky

You'll probably be interested in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Lonelydarksky and twinkle. Regards,
— V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 05:10, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed deletions

Looking at 1, 2, 3 and more, please be more careful and cautius before using the proposed deletion process with the rationale that according your search the article's subject lacks of reliable secondary sources. Probably there is something wrong in your search method. Regards, Cavarrone (talk) 11:13, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Pokiest

A tag has been placed on Pokiest, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

A dictionary definition that should not be redirected to speed.

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If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 01:22, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Note: this doesn't technically fit any of the criteria for speedy deletion, so I ask you to delete it yourself Neelix, or at least tell me what the heck "pokiest" is supposed to mean in the context of "speed". -RunningOnBrains^(talk) 05:22, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Pokiest for deletion

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Locked List of FA Cup winners article

You have locked the List of FA Cup winners article to all editors until 7th of May. The final was today - please (even partially) unlock it. I understand there is vandalism, but locking the article completely to all editors until long after the event is excessive. Greenman (talk) 18:29, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Pokiest listed at Redirects for discussion

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Poky listed at Redirects for discussion

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TFL

Hi Neelix, had another surge of edits at WP:TFL, moved a few in, a few out and all that jazz. I have one specific favour to ask, – could write a really nice blurb for the July 2nd offering? It's the List of UEFA European Football Championship finals which should be in good condition, (a) having been promoted recently and (b) being written predominantly by me (!!!!!). Thanks again for all your support and all the work you do. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:34, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pope John Paul II: The Movie

I believe you erred in declaring the topic as failing WP:NF. Certainly the stub had sat forgotten for a long while, but we base topic notability on available sources, and not whether or not they have been used to improve the article. Evaluatiiion of a stub article topic should be assessed based on whether it has a realistic potential for expansion, and not how frequently it has been edited to date. We do well to remember that that there is no deadline, and even stubs have their place if the topic is determinable as notable. Perhaps you might condider withdrawing your nomination? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 21:21, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the note on my talk page, and I do understand the errors that sometimes occur with an improper article title. Whn my own initial search was unsuccessful, I instead did one which included lead actor plus a shortened title... and was, as you see, successful. As an opining editor, it is best I not close the AFD, but you might use <s></s> and do a stikethrough of your nom statement and offer an !vote keep opinion with a comment that you feel notability has been established. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 22:01, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 06:53, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Dean Ireland

Thanks for your message. I'm surprised you still have a problem with the sentence The professorship was instituted by John Ireland, Dean of Westminster from 1816 until his death in 1842, who acquired considerable riches during his ecclesiastical career. According to you, this states that the professorship was "instituted" from 1816 until 1842. No, he was Dean of Westminster for 1816 to 1842, hence the positioning of the commas! Bencherlite^Talk 19:54, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: hurricane

Thanks for the comment! Actually, I think it'd be much simpler to move North Atlantic tropical cyclone to Atlantic hurricane. Although storms do form south of the equator in the Atlantic, they are extremely rare and aren't called hurricanes. That is very much the WP:COMMONTITLE, and I'm going to propose moving it as such. Typhoons only occur north of the equator, west of the international dateline, so there is no need to differentiate that title. And although "hurricane" refers to a type of tropical cyclone with winds greater than 74 mph, hurricane is also a generic term for tropical cyclones, such as the "National Hurricane Center" and "Hurricane season". --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:11, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

TFA images

Please see Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors#Errors in the summary of today's or tomorrow's featured article (permanent link). This is becoming tiresome. —David Levy 06:05, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Indian ministry move

You recently moved Ministry of Food Processing Industries (India) to Ministry of Food Processing Industries with the note that it is needless disambiguation. I know that the rule says not to disambiguate, but when I set up the ministries articles it was easier to give everything the tag "India" than to determine which ones - like Ministry of Finance (India) - need disambiguation and which ones do not. It also streamlines some sorting processes to make all the titles uniform. Thanks for doing the work. I am unsure about which way is best, but your way is by the precedent. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:00, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Peter.JPG

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Little disagreement

I know we may be having a little disagreement at North Atlantic tropical cyclone, but I don't want it to get personal. Cheers to all you do on Wiki! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:45, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I reverted your recent move of Pacific hurricane. While there is a slight argument in havnig "North" in "Atlantic hurricane", that is not true for Pacific hurricanes. In the northwest Pacific, they are typhoons, and in the southern hemisphere they are called cyclones. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:08, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey, if you don't mind me asking, how come you're trying to push so hard of a name change for those hurricane articles? Why the interest? Are you interested in hurricanes at all? If so, we always need more writers; I could give you a hand writing. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

That makes sense. I'm just in the crowd that prefers a short and simplest article title as possible. Then, the lede (and any links) can clear up any confusion as quickly as possible. I'll check out that prospective TFL though! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I wrote that snow in Florida article :P --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:47, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Chain of Command (book)

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Commonist listed at Redirects for discussion

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Your page moves

...have once against come under discussion. Please see Template_talk:American_cuisine#Name change? Viriditas (talk) 22:57, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

The world is too much for you?

But of course the "worldwide" part is relevant in List of best-selling singles worldwide, as every country has its own list of best-selling singles. Indeed, the lede paragraph opens with, "According to Guinness World Records, the holiday perennial "White Christmas" (1942) by Bing Crosby is the best-selling single worldwide, with estimated sales of over 50 million copies," and closes with, ""Candle in the Wind 1997"/"Something About the Way You Look Tonight" (1997) by Elton John, a tribute to the late Diana, Princess of Wales, is "the biggest-selling single since UK and US singles charts began in the 1950s, having accumulated worldwide sales of 33 million copies," underscoring the concept that the statistics here are worldwide tallies.

Conversely, typing "List of best-selling singles" into the search box gives a taste of how many other variants of the list there already are to distinguish from one another. Abrazame (talk) 06:39, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Hawaiian cuisine

To paraphrase Bruce Willis: Come on by, have some fun, have a few drinks, voice your opinion on moving the article! --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 18:22, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

John McMillans

Hello. I think John Stuart McMillan would be better placed at John McMillan (footballer born 1871). WP:NCP#Middle names and abbreviated names advises against using middle names for disambiguation "if that format of the name is not commonly used to refer to the person". And the advice at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Association football (soccer), to use birth year, is common practice for disambiguating footballers/soccer players. I'll move it back, assuming it still goes back over the redirect without needing admin tools, anyway, and fix any links that need changing from John Stuart McM. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:20, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Fine by me, though we'll doubtless then find out that the other one was known as Johnny as well... Do you want to move it, or shall I? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:29, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Citizenship in the United States

Wondering why you felt the hatnote "Main -- Citizenship" was inappropriate.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:39, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tom,

Thank you for contacting me about this! The "main" template is used when an article is written in summary style; it is placed "below the heading of the summary, to link to the sub-article that has been (or will be) summarised." It is not an article header and should not be used as one because 1) if we did, we would have to add such links to the top of all Wikipedia articles, because all Wikipedia articles have parent articles, and 2) it suggests that the article in question has only one parent article, which is almost never the case. In the case of Citizenship in the United States, the Citizenship article is one parent article, but so is United States nationality law. These links should be included in the article, but not in a hatnote at the beginning of the article. Let me know if you have any further concerns or if I haven't fully answered your question.

Neelix (talk) 16:55, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Thank you for explaining. I hadn't known that. Now I do. Yes you fully answered my question. :) --Tomwsulcer (talk) 19:26, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Aerobatics

Noticed that you have added the Template:Aerobatics to lots of articles, two points please dont remove current navboxes and I have raised the addition to aircraft articles at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft#Template:Aerobatics were you are welcome to comment. It would be nice to stop adding the template to some of these articles until you have a consensus, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 17:48, 26 June 2012 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aircraft#Template:Aerobatics

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Aerobatics

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Canadian director navboxes

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• I've removed the co-directors as suggested. It certainly does look cleaner this way, too. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:22, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Wettest TCs

Theres a problem with the script which i have been using that makes the image date consistent with the rest of the article. But bar replace the images as i see them, theres nothing i can do since it isnt my script.Jason Rees (talk) 14:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Main Page appearance

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The 60 municipalities of Lithuania are sub-divided into over 500 smaller groups, known as elderships, as well as being grouped into 10 counties. These municipalities, elderships, and counties make up the three layers of Lithuania's administrative division. At the end of its tenure as a Soviet Socialist Republic, Lithuania's administrative division consisted of 44 regions, 12 cities, 80 towns, 19 settlements, and 426 rural districts. The reform of this system was an immediate concern for the new government. The Constitution of Lithuania, ratified in 1992, delegated the power of establishing future administrative units to the Lithuanian Parliament. The current system of a set of municipalities under 10 counties was codified by 1995. Several changes were made in 2000, resulting in 60 municipalities, each of which has its own coat of arms (example pictured). Municipal councilors are directly elected every four years. The councilors then elect the municipality's mayor.

Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of calypso-like genres/archive1

To complete the paperwork... Bencherlite^Talk 18:59, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

While going through FLC/FLRC closing duties today, I noticed that you removed this list from WP:FL and added it to WP:FFL, but didn't update the article counts for each. If I hadn't caught the mistakes, our FL and former FL counts may have stayed incorrect for a long time. In general, I'd recommend leaving promotion/demotion decisions to the directors. I have good faith that you were just trying to complete a formality after the merger, but it's very easy for a user inexperienced with how the FL count pages work to slip up. It took me many sessions of editing it before I felt comfortable! Also, I feel that it's better to have the paperwork of an FLRC, and that it would be bad if people started regularly removing stars from pages without any community input. Hope you understand, and please keep up the great work writing TFL blurbs. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for pledging to bring future merger candidates up for discussion. Hopefully, there won't be too many cases like this in the future to worry about. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:36, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

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re: Snow in Florida

Thanks for the heads up. I checked it out and made some adjustments (got rid of unsourced statements, moved images around, standardized units). --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:26, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Alumimg

Hi Cat,

I noticed that you are the creator of Template:Alumimg. I have nominated List of Boston Latin School alumni to go up on the main page here, but the concerns have been raised that the reference column should not be sortable and the entries for which there are no images should have dashes in the image column. I do not believe that Template:Alumimg is currently able to do these two things. Would you be willing to give the template this functionality?

Neelix (talk) 18:11, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I would be pleased to expand the template. :) Do the changes I make comply with what you wished? -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 00:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cat,

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly! The modifications to the template are greatly appreciated. TFL is generally very strict on dash length, so I switched the hyphen on the template to an em-dash. I hope you don't mind.

Happy editing,

Neelix (talk) 01:14, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

That is fine :) Let me know if you need any feature request on any template. :) -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 01:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for She Has a Name

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TFA

Hello! This is a much better illustration. Thanks for finding it.
Please remember to upload a Commons file to Wikipedia (and tag it {{uploaded from Commons}}) before transcluding it on the main page. In this instance, the image was unprotected (and subject to vandalism) for approximately 11 minutes (until a bot cascade-protected it at Commons). It can take longer than that, and the bot has had some outages.
Thanks again! —David Levy 02:04, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

As it turns out, the image has a copyright issue. Please see Talk:Main Page#Unfree image used for today's FA. —David Levy 02:36, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Nichole Nordeman

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Nomination of Great Book for deletion

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TFA image for Rus' Khaganate

I still disagree with you, but rather than undo your image-addition a second time I have opened discussion at talk:Main Page#Image for a forthcoming TFA - opinions requested. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 10:43, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

List of encyclicals of Pope John Paul II

Hi Neelix. It's just been brought to my attention that you delisted this from featured status after merging it into the main article. It's not such a bad thing, but we normally would have FLRC'ed it. In this case that would be reviewing a redirect so I can see why we didn't, but it's probably a good idea to let one of the directors know what you've done. I also note you removed it from WP:FL but didn't decrease the overall count of FLs? Could you check that please and fix if necessary. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:20, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

As I've just mentioned to TRM, I think the FL count is OK. Bencherlite^Talk 07:22, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of View from the Vault

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Nomination of View from the Vault for deletion

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Shrimp and prawn

I see you have changed the name of an article called "Shrimp and prawn" to "Shrimp". The name of this article was the result of a protracted discussion, culminating in this consensus. I have just painstakingly written this article around this concept (not my first choice). Please consult content editors before you make moves like this. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:07, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm... you've made quite a mess here. Would you please revert your changes to the shrimp and prawn redirections. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:16, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

To clarify why I reverted your change and was somewhat irritated: I wrote the article around the title suggested in the administrator's review, because this was a compromise with an opposing editor. The title was not my preference, but I felt it was important that the compromise be honoured. Then, as soon as I had written the article, and while it was still on the front page as the lead DYK, you preemptively renamed it. I felt it was inappropriate to bulldoze me into having to rewrite the article when I was jaded from having just completed it, and to cut across an agreed compromise without any process or discussion. However, now that you are allowing some process, I support the move. --Epipelagic (talk) 20:40, 2 September 2012 (UTC)