User talk:Dweller/Archive2020

St. Patrick's Day

Pärt: The Deer's Cry

decoration + music with thanks from QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:02, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Happy Easter

or: the resurrection of loving-kindness --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you today for Alf Ramsey, "about the only England manager to have won a major trophy", done in collaboration with "The Rambling Man and another former editor, whom I remember fondly and would love to see editing again"! - I am happy to share the Main page, the lowly DYK featuring what Penderecki believed, including "this is the day that the Lord has made, ..." from Psalm 118. Today, any day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Mail

Hey, i would rather do this here than per mail since my address contains personal information. ;) Kante4 (talk) 15:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Ah. I have 4 images of German press coverage of Bayern Munich 1–2 Norwich City (1993) that I have some questions about. Could you create a disposable email address? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, did one. How can i give it to you? Kante4 (talk) 06:01, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Great, did two and can't login to either (correct name + pw)... So you might want to ask another one who is not as stupid as i am in making one, sorry. Kante4 (talk) 07:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

The Rambling Man, you know how good I am with tech. How easy is it (/ copyright OK?) to upload the images so Kante can see them? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 07:58, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Well I received all four images you sent me via email.... The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:00, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

I think Kante went to the same tech school as me and is having trouble creating a disposable email account. Can we upload the images somewhere without breaking copyright? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Check your mail, i got it working somehow. :D Kante4 (talk) 09:22, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hooray! --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:27, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

So here are our questions

• We have no information on team selection (or problems) for Bayern going into the match - is that included?

A: Before the first leg, Markus Schupp was suspended after getting a second yellow card, meanwhile Olaf Thon who was injured for six weeks said he was "fit". (84) In the second leg Scholl was available again. (86)

• We presume they expected Bayern to win. Does it state that? What about winning by a big margin?

A: Uli Hoeneß said before the first leg that Norwich were a "absolute Top-team, especially away from home". "Normaly in England it's "fast-fast", but they play more technical" (84) Second leg: They were confident after beating Kaiserslautern 4–0 at the weekend and that they had a chance if they repeated that performance. Bayern said that were more "robust". (86)

• Are there indications that the German press felt that Bayern were arrogant/took Norwich too lightly?

A: Not really, Beckenbauer said before the second leg that "they were better than Norwich and it would be a bit emberassing getting knocked out as the only german team". (86)

• Do they have any other reasons that they blamed the defeat on?

A: Tactical mistakes. Ziege came off when he was good, players playing on the wrong side and Helmer was not helping Sternkopf. And Labbadia was not playing but two counter-attack attackers which the fans did not took lightly, chanting "We want Bruno". And that Norwich had a good tactic, good discipline. After their first goal Norwich played very deep and Bayern was not playing enough on the wings and did not shoot enough. (85)

• Do they provide any nuggets that we're missing from the article, any context from a German perspective?

A. No.

• Do they happen to mention how many matches Bayern were unbeaten in at home against British sides? (TRM thinks it may be 14 but we don't have ideal sourcing)

A: Nothing.

• What was their opinion of the goals?

A: Lucky after mistakes from the Bayern defense, while getting help from behind so he can forus up the pitch. (85)

• Any mention of Bryan Gunn's performance?

A: No.

• What comments do they make about Matthaus' performance, or any other Bayern player picked out?

A: He should have made more on offense. (85)

• Any comments about Bayern's tactics?

A: See above, number 3.

I know, we're asking a lot. Thank you so much. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Will be answering them as good as i can today/tomorrow. Kante4 (talk) 12:11, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

You utter star, thank you. No mad rush. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:25, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Kante4, if you can, please indicate which of Kicker issues 84 (1st leg preview), 85 (1st leg report), 88 (2nd leg preview) or 89 (2nd leg report) the information is in! --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:44, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

That's it and helps hopefully. If you have any more questions, go ahead. Kante4 (talk) 10:49, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Fantastic, thank you Kante4 --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:36, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Glad that i could help. Kante4 (talk) 19:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Wishing Dweller a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! History DMZ (talk)+(ping) 02:51, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

May · Mary · Monteverdi

Thank you for article improvements in May! - DYK our list of people for whose life I'm thankful enough to improve their articles? - I have a FAC open, one of Monteverdi's exceptional works, in memory of Brian who passed me his collected sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Don't forget who nominated you Dweller, this guy, right here. You did well, although not as well as when I passed, so don't let it go to your head. And you still can't format a citation. But that's what I'm here for. Keep up the good work my friend, without this odd project, we'd never have shared so much, so if nothing else, for that I'm am truly thankful. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:43, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you all so much. You're all lovely. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:58, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

That's nice, but comments in the FAC would be nicer ;) - TRM did the GA review, and that was before Brian gave me the sources, and I thought he needed the sandbox for something else, and he began, and died. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:42, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for a prompt question. What a motet is, depends on who uses the word, derived from mot which is French for word. It can be used for almost anything sung, with a focus on the words and their interpretation through music. See also here. For concertos/concerti, see also here. Monteverdi wrote concerto, - I don't know what a musicologist had in mind when making it motet. Certainly not Motet (Bach) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

today a composer pictured who wrote a triple concerto for violin, harp and double bass, in honour of the composer who died and my brother who plays double bass. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:16, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Wow. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:36, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

June

June

Vespro della Beata Vergine

Thank you for improving articles in June. I can proudly present a FA, quite a gift after a year without, and a FL is in the making, comments welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:47, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you in July

July

pale globe-thistle above the Rhine

Thank you for improving articles in July! Now a FTN is open. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Monteverdi's operas are now a featured topic! ... exactly 10 years after both Brian and I were declared awesome ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:27, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

West Indian cricket team in England in 1988 FAR

I have nominated West Indian cricket team in England in 1988 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Harrias ^talk 10:16, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Still competent

Hi, see User_talk:Master_Jay#My_song,_"Tools". You restored the admin stuff a while ago. - Sitush (talk) 14:26, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sitush. Thanks for the message. I'm not sure what you're asking me, or who you refer to as being "still competent". --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:33, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) In hindsight, probably not the best example of a living manifestation of the old-fashioned values my signature aims to encourage. The comments made there seem to be foul of all the pledges. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:35, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

You're puzzling me too. As Sitush hasn't signed up for the Old Fashioned Values, you must be talking to me, but I've not contributed there. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:39, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, bad attempt at humour I suppose. It was a light-hearted comment based on a comment you left on Jay's talk page in 2019 after resysopping, which perhaps it didn't age well in light of the aspersions made at the link Sitush left. Nothing directed at either of you. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:11, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Ah. I get it. No, that section has a lot of stuff in it that isn't in accordance with the values, sadly. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:59, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

I missed out a question mark, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 15:34, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

I hope I am still competent. I mess up from time to time. Crats are chosen for being level-headed, undramatic and strictly adhering to policy, as they understand it. We sometimes find it hard to interpret policy because it too is imperfect. If you think I'm no longer competent, please tell me how to improve, as you'll find me a listener. But I may be slow to respond for the next while. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:02, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Sitush, you have devoted an unhealthy amount of energy on me and me alone regarding the re-sysoping you disagreed with 18 months ago. It started with you commenting on an unnamed troll post on my talk page, out of the blue. You continued to comment on it. You proactively introduced my name at a recent re-sysop request, and continued to hound me on my talk page. I have never initiated any contact with you, and am only responding to the animus you have induced. Rather than continuing the discussions (which you initiated) on my talk page recently, you have made your rounds to back-talk on other members pages. You disagreed with my re-sysoping. It is noted. But you have continued to single me out for your attention on this matter, which is not productive. If you have something constructive to add to one policy that you disagree with, pursue that policy change. That is far more productive than this sustained personal obsession you have with my existence. I kindly ask that rather than going from page to page, creating many threads, you leave all comments on either my talk page or your talk page. --Jay(Talk) 18:32, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

August

August

Sunflowers in Walsdorf

Thank you for improving articles in August! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

A first for me today: a featured list (= a featured topic in this case) on the Main page, see Wikipedia:Main Page history/2020 August 21, an initiative by Aza24 in memory of Brian. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Today: Rhythm Is It! - I expanded that stub on my dad's birthday because we saw the film together back then, and were impressed. As a ref said: every educator should see it. Don't miss the trailer, for a starter. - A welcome chance to present yet another article by Brian on the Main page, Le Sacre du printemps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Happy Bureaucratship Day!

Wishing Dweller a very happy bureaucratship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! History DMZ (talk)+(ping) 03:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Wishing Dweller a very happy bureaucratship anniversary on behalf of the Birthday Committee! ~SS49~ {talk} 06:27, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Wishing Dweller a very happy bureaucratship anniversary on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 08:34, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Happy Bureaucratship Anniversary!

Wishing Dweller a very happy bureaucratship anniversary on behalf of the Birthday Committee! 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:08, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Wow, thank you to all the well-wishers. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:28, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Normski for deletion

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September

September

Dahlias in Walsdorf

I like today's Main page, with the TFA (thank you for your FAC comments!) on the anniversary day (of both dedication and our concert), a DYK, and a great photographer who didn't make it soon enough, Jürgen Schadeberg, - more on my talk, mostly about the tribute to Brian who shared his sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

In contrast: matching colours music to the Dahlias, "brute loud and secretly quiet". - The music (specifically "Meermenschen") was given to me for my birthday. A funeral in 2 days. Brute. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:36, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Hey, Dweller. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! HeartGlow (talk) 14:01, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Gosh, 15 years ago. What a noob I was. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:32, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society

Dear Dweller/Archive2020,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Fifteen Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more. ​

Best regards, Chris Troutman (talk) 20:21, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Wow. Thanks, Chris troutman, I'll think about that. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:15, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Bradman

Thanks. It was starting to all get a bit odd tbh. Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:40, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Lol. That's Wikipedia. Everyone has an opinion. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 08:42, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Images in FAs

Hey dude, just a quick one. In the past I recall we've shied away from doing articles which don't have images, but just look at WP:TFA today! Amazeballs. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 09:19, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Interesting. And I wonder if Mike is related to the recently-deceased David. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:09, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

October harvest

Dona nobis pacem

Thank you for being around! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Beautiful Main page today, don't miss the pic by a banned user (of a 2013 play critical of refugee politics), nor a related video, interviews in German, but music and scene. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hope for 2021

take courage

Thank you for improving article quality in December, and good wishes for a time of transition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:33, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Have a good new year 2021! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda Arendt, and thank you also for all your kind and very welcome encouragement all year round. Happy new year. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

ϢereSpielChequers is wishing a foaming mug of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec20}} to your friends' talk pages.

Thank you, WereSpielChequers! Lovely message. Happy new year. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:16, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Natalis soli invicto!

		Natalis soli invicto!
		Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:40, 25 December 2020 (UTC)