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October 15, 2019


Birthday
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Adminship Anniversary
Jac16888
First Edit Day
David Fuchs, Ian Rose, Ian.thomson, Xaosflux

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Other events:
Depiction of WMF destroying Wikipedia with Visual Editor and flow.

General strike starts (for me) right nowEdit

So since the management has decided that the workers on the assembly line have no rights, including the right to collectively bargain through our shop steward, I've found it necessary to halt production. Wikipedia has taken so much away from me and I just am not going to give anymore. I plan to return at month's end to publish The Signpost but I cannot in good conscience continue here until the Board resigns, Katherine Maher is fired, and Jimbo apologizes for everything. You can email me if stuff gets better. Otherwise, I'm on vacation for the foreseeable future. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:07, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:CenturyEdit

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Precious anniversaryEdit

Precious
 
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:16, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:International BrigadesEdit

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about riversEdit

How to remove wrong materials from a protected pageEdit

Hey If I want to remove something from a wiikipedia page which is protected then what is the best way to remove it semervinx (talk) 11:40, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

@Semervinx: Same process. Leave a note on the talk page explaining what you want removed and why. WP:EDITREQ goes into more detail about it. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:20, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
You are right wikipedia dosen't care about emotions but its policy also says those images should be added if they serve some purpose those images serve no major educational purpose and they are too many which does violate the policy
And by the way that images hurt the image of wikipedia and discourage some users so I think the article will be just fine without the images semervinx (talk) 19:45, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
@Semervinx: I can understand your frustration. It's best to realize that Wikipedia reflects the consensus of its editors and that the readers of Wikipedia are far more cosmopolitan and secular than you realize. While I am sorry that the content involved offends you, it does not offend either the majority of our editors or our readers, especially the ones that send in donations. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:57, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
I know that but this page may be read by many Readers around the world and many of those will have some emotions and will offend thousands
So I just want to make this site more good for humans who have some emotions
If it really is a educational and neutral site then I think those content must be allowed which is really necessary
But I try my best to remove this by legal way which follow wikipedia policy bcz wikipedia will understand only that semervinx (talk) 20:38, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
And Yeah it does offend majority of readers as Islam as the second biggest religion in the world.
Many readers will be muslims if you take it by statistics and it will somehow make bad and negitive impression on thousands and become an obstactle in the path of information and goals of wikipedia so it does hurt wikipedia but still it dosen't see it semervinx (talk) 20:45, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not support your viewpoint. What I'm telling you is that, of the editors here, not enough think that we need to censor articles so as to not offend religious sensibilities. Please ask your fellow Muslim editors about it. I promise you there's nothing you can do to change the content on Everybody Draw Mohammed Day, as offensive as that may be to you. Wikipedia makes $35 million in profit annually. They don't care if people in your part of the world are upset. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:51, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:SturmabteilungEdit

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Please comment on Talk:SingaporeEdit

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new sectionEdit

The policies of US states are highly appreciateale but ignoring the current issues with regard to Humanity Rights and violations around the world.... M I Anjum Thaheem chairman international liasion committee LHCBA for Environmental (talk) 21:57, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Earl of Huntingdon articleEdit

Chris [sorry that I originally posted this in the wrong place!], not sure whether this is the best way to contact you, although under 'pinging' it is given as one of the ways. I was disappointed by your message. Firstly, because Robinvp11 ‎was the first one to conduct discussion/argument by edit summary - I was just replying to him. Secondly, I have already continued the discussion on Robinvp11's talk page. Thirdly, what is this 'we' business? I didn't say anything about other editors, just Robinvp11. By saying 'we', you are automatically allying with him, which doesn't suggest fairness or impartiality. You are also, in effect, accusing me of saying I know better than all editors, which is daft - of course I don't, and nor would I claim to. Fourthly, there are several weaknesses in his version of the article, which weaken it - not least, by omitting an important quote from the writer he mentions, Walker, which alters Walker's intended meaning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alanrhobson (talkcontribs) 09:39, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

@Alanrhobson: I'm not making excuses about Robinvp11's edit summaries; that was bad form on their part. I'm glad you are in contact with Robinvp11 but there might be other interested audiences at that article that could chime in, rather than stalkers of Robinvp11's talk page. My reference to "we" was not meant to connote that I agree with Robinvp11 on the merits; Wikipedia as a community rejected the input of experts a decade ago. The few academics that edit here do so knowing that they have to win over those of us that aren't educated. I imagine that you are probably right about Theophilus Hastings, 7th Earl of Huntingdon. My interest is in calmly explaining that Wikipedia eschews appeals to authority (as Wikipedia is an adhocracy) and discussion should work out the content issue. No one has any personal grudge against you and, while reversions may feel like a slight, they aren't meant to be. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:41, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Chris - thanks for your helpful reply and clarifications. I will switch the discussion to the public talk page for the article, as you suggest. I have also signed my piece on the public talk page, as you further suggest. Robinvp11 has not yet replied. If he doesn't, I shall probably appeal to third party arbitration. Can I request you to be the administrator who arbitrates, or is the choice of administrator a random process? Also, in my third party appeal, may I quote your helpful comment about 'bad form' ('an experienced administrator agreed it was 'bad form' ') or would the repeating o part of a private message be poor protocol? I would appreciate your guidance on these points Alanrhobson (talk) 16:00, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
@Alanrhobson: Just a small nitpick: I'm not an administrator, which is a formal, elected role here on Wikipedia. Also, please avoid assuming Robinvp11's gender. Many Wikipedians either prefer anonymity or do not identify here with a specific gender. It is common here to use singular they. If you decide to go to WP:3O, I would defer to the editors who frequent that board; hopefully that won't be necessary. As this is a content issue, I would post a note about your talk page discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History (though that WikiProject is largely moribund). All contributions, including comments, are captured in every page's history tab and you can cite those edits wherever you choose and without any permission, as all contributions are released CC-BY-SA. While you can cite my opinion, you are on firmer ground pointing to WP:SUMMARYNO about that conduct. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:59, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:History of ChristianityEdit

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A new user script for BDCEdit

Hi greetings, thank you for sending greeting messages on the behalf of Birthday committee. Now there is a script to help the process -- User:SD0001/BDCS. Feel free to try it. If you have any suggestions please post it at SD0001's talk page. Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 13:31, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

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