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Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination DriveEdit

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Thanks for the time to review my proposed page. Most appreciated. To your query: This individual has in fact been nighted by the king of Morocco. I have actual photos and videos of the ceremony pulled out of his Instagram page. Where can I send them to you? Additionally and for diversity purposes this subject should be considered (of African descent- There aren't many prominent figures from Morocco on Wiki). The press coverage he has in Morocco, India and France is prominent. Wikipedia is an international force and for that it should consider international news and press platforms valuable *and not just US or British outlets, in my humble opinion. thank you once again for the time. Waiting for your instructions to send the photos and videos of the knighting ceremony Durden38 (talk) 07:32, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

@Durden38: While I understand this is frustrating, Wikipedia has rules about substantiating claims. We do not accept uploaded photos as sources; we rely upon reliable sources like newspapers and books. Even websites, like the Government of Morocco, could publish information about this knighthood. But without any reliable sources, we cannot trust self-published sources like Instagram. Sometimes, even facts that are true do not get represented here. I'm sorry, but the draft you're working on has already taken much time away from busy volunteers. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

A goat for youEdit

Thanks for the thanks -- it's so good to cross paths with you. Hello Chris Troutman! Still miss you in LA. JSFarman (talk) 17:34, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

@JSFarman: Yes, it's sad I only went out to lunch with you the once. I miss the interactions I used to have with the LA editing community and hope you're well. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)


Hi Chris, thank you for reviewing the page I created on AMBOTS, to which you commented "these don't look like reliable sources". Can I seek some clarification on what you are referring to and how I can improve the article to make it acceptable? Also, I noticed you left a message on my Talk page saying that "you may have a conflict of interest (COI)". Can you clarify a bit further? AMBOTS is a local company in our area that has made it to the international stage with worldwide recognitions. It has inspired many kids here around the area. It would be nice to create a Wikipedia page to make it easier for more people to know. Thanks for any further assistance you can provide.— Preceding unsigned comment added by NewAge2001 (talkcontribs) 12:01, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

@NewAge2001: One of your citations is General Electric so we know who they are.,,, and are just websites. Wikipedia is a tertiary source and we expect to see primary sources like newspapers and magazines, not corporate entities in industry. You also cite the subject's website, which is a no-no. Based upon your promotional language ("a local company in our area that has made it to the international stage with worldwide recognitions. It has inspired many kids here around the area.") it seems you do have a conflict of interest. Wikipedia takes a dim view of people and businesses exploiting us for their own ends. After all, every article is written by volunteers who get absolutely nothing for their hard work. You are legally required by the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use to disclose your affiliation with the subject, if any. I will not be reviewing this draft again so please do not continue to ask me about it.Chris Troutman (talk) 21:08, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I have to say I am truly offended by your ignorance. is just a website? It's the largest news media covering an entire industry. CBS is not notable? It is the largest TV network in the US. So I can't be proud of the subject I am writing about? Which part of the article is promotional language? The subject's website is part of the company description, as in the standard template for most of the companies on Wikipedia. It seems you don't even know your own area.